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Doggcow
12-29-2011, 01:22 PM
Von hasn't been close to the same threat since he got his cast on, for a lot of reasons, it's impacting his play.

Haggan actually played well in spot duty.

Miller has been exceptionally vulnerable to the run since coming back, if we just play Haggan over him on first down, I think it seriously helps our defense. Also keeps Miller more fresh.

Smiling Assassin27
12-29-2011, 01:25 PM
Um, yes?

;)

Haggan's a solid player and has seen a lot that Von maybe hasn't. Haggan can't play at a high level for 60 minutes but he's definitely an option to give Von some rest.

Armchair Bronco
12-29-2011, 01:26 PM
I agree 100% that Von Miller isn't the same player since he started wearing the "Club Hand" moniker.

He isn't the same player at all. For someone as fast and explosive as him, I can't imagine how limiting that caveman club must be. But it's clear that he's a changed man wearing that cast.

Doggcow
12-29-2011, 01:27 PM
Um, yes?

;)

Haggan's a solid player and has seen a lot that Von maybe hasn't. Haggan can't play at a high level for 60 minutes but he's definitely an option to give Von some rest.

As bad ass as Von is, I think it's a good move, would make BOTH players better. Von is really feeling the effect of that cast, so I think it would be great to have Haggan in there. Especially since it throws something different at the tackles as well.

Doggcow
12-29-2011, 01:29 PM
I agree 100% that Von Miller isn't the same player since he started wearing the "Club Hand" moniker.

He isn't the same player at all. For someone as fast and explosive as him, I can't imagine how limiting that caveman club must be. But it's clear that he's a changed man wearing that cast.

I saw some thing on sportscenter or something, why I started thinking of this; that shows him now leading with his shoulder and getting absorbed by blocks, instead of what he used to do, assaulting tackles with his hands outstretched. Von has great length, so it's a huge advantage for him IF he uses it.

Armchair Bronco
12-29-2011, 01:31 PM
Will he be wearing that cast for the rest of the season?

Shotgun Willie
12-29-2011, 01:35 PM
Will he be wearing that cast for the rest of the season?

Ummm, the season has the potential to only last 3 more days.....

CEH
12-29-2011, 01:49 PM
Will he be wearing that cast for the rest of the season?

Yes for as long as Denver plays football in the 2011 season Miller will have the cast on

broncosteven
12-29-2011, 02:34 PM
Allen already rotates his LB's quite a bit including Miller, Mays, and moving DJ from outside to MLB.

I like how Allen will bring in Mays when he feels guys are going to run and Woodyard in at WILL and move DJ over to MIKE in passing situations.

Miller has gone stretches of games not in the lineup.

BroncoMan4ever
12-29-2011, 03:56 PM
I agree 100% that Von Miller isn't the same player since he started wearing the "Club Hand" moniker.

He isn't the same player at all. For someone as fast and explosive as him, I can't imagine how limiting that caveman club must be. But it's clear that he's a changed man wearing that cast.

it is similar to when Doom broke his pinky and had a down year a few years ago. for players like Doom and Miller who are lighter pass rushers, they need the use of their hands to break free from O-Linemen. Miller is playing wioth a serious handicap, and i agree Haggan should come in more often to help him out.

tsiguy96
12-29-2011, 05:12 PM
hunter has been filling in for von in a lot of formations since denvers nickel defense is getting killed with the run. i think it was hte post that had a whole thing on that this week.

BroncoBen
12-29-2011, 07:45 PM
Von hasn't been close to the same threat since he got his cast on, for a lot of reasons, it's impacting his play.

Haggan actually played well in spot duty.

Miller has been exceptionally vulnerable to the run since coming back, if we just play Haggan over him on first down, I think it seriously helps our defense. Also keeps Miller more fresh.

Problem with that is when teams go to a hurry-up, the pats did it and the bills the 2nd half.

Armchair Bronco
12-30-2011, 03:11 AM
it is similar to when Doom broke his pinky and had a down year a few years ago. for players like Doom and Miller who are lighter pass rushers, they need the use of their hands to break free from O-Linemen. Miller is playing wioth a serious handicap, and i agree Haggan should come in more often to help him out.

I didn't realize how much Miller used his hands and long reach as part of his arsenal until he was handicapped with that damn club. I went back and watched some of his early highlights from the season, and it's clear that he uses his speed to bust into the backfield, and then he dives at opposing players and uses his arms to disrupt the play.

Hard to do that when you're forced to hold on to a caveman club with one of your hands.

cutthemdown
12-30-2011, 05:15 AM
Probably not a bad idea