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Boomhauer
12-29-2011, 04:48 AM
Yep. I'm throwing it out there. Here's the 32-team order after a quick prediction of all Week17 games and the playoffs. I won't bother with strength-of-schedule because this order will be shot to tihs on Sunday, but just for the sake of conversation...

#1 IND 2wins
#2 STL - MIN 3wins
#3
#4 TB - CLE 4wins
#5
#6 JAX - WAS 5wins
#7
#8 MIA - KC 6wins
#9
#10 SD - BUF - SEA - CAR 7wins
#11
#12
#13
#14 NYJ - AZ - NYG - PHI - CHI 8wins
#15
#16
#17
#18
#19 TEN - OAK 9wins
#20
----------------------- Playoff Teams ----------------------
#21 ATL
#22 BAL
#23 DAL
#24 HOU
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#25 DEN
#26 NO
#27 NE
#28 GB
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#29 CIN
#30 SF
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#31 PIT
#32 DET
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Bronc62
12-29-2011, 05:08 AM
So this translates into Denver winning its first round playoff game at home vs. Baltimore, then losing in the next round at NE?

Boomhauer
12-29-2011, 05:43 AM
Pick'em Challenge for all 'Maners

List your draft order from #21 through #32 - the twelve teams you think will make the playoffs and how they'll fair.

When it's all said and done, accuracy will be tallied. One point will be counted for every draft position the twelve teams you listed are off. ie; I have DAL at #23, but if they don't make the playoffs and end up selecting #15 or so, I'll get 8pts for that choice. Lowest combined point total wins.

gunns
12-29-2011, 06:01 AM
Fox had us at 24 picking Brandon Thompson

alkemical
12-29-2011, 06:07 AM
Fox had us at 24 picking Brandon Thompson

Clemson DT's are ok here.

55CrushEm
12-29-2011, 06:57 AM
Fox had us at 24 picking Brandon Thompson

Unlikely.....if we are in the 21-24 group.....i.e. the 4 teams that lose in first round of the playoffs.....we'll probably be picking 21 (the best of the group) cause we'll have the worst record of those 4 teams.....either 9-7 or 8-8. The team that picks 24 has the best record of the 4 teams eliminated in Rd 1......certainly not us.

Likewise...the OP is right....if we win only 1 game...then we'll be 25th.....etc.

rugbythug
12-29-2011, 08:12 AM
Other than sb participants playoff wins have no bearing on draft placement. If memory serves.

Traveler
12-29-2011, 08:13 AM
Yep. I'm throwing it out there. Here's the 32-team order after a quick prediction of all Week17 games and the playoffs. I won't bother with strength-of-schedule because this order will be shot to tihs on Sunday, but just for the sake of conversation...

#1 IND 2wins
#2 STL - MIN 3wins
#3
#4 TB - CLE 4wins
#5
#6 JAX - WAS 5wins
#7
#8 MIA - KC 6wins
#9
#10 SD - BUF - SEA - CAR 7wins
#11
#12
#13
#14 NYJ - AZ - NYG - PHI - CHI 8wins
#15
#16
#17
#18
#19 TEN - OAK 9wins
#20
----------------------- Playoff Teams ----------------------
#21 ATL
#22 BAL
#23 DAL
#24 HOU
-----------------------
#25 DEN
#26 NO
#27 NE
#28 GB
-----------------------
#29 CIN
#30 SF
-----------------------
#31 PIT
#32 DET
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DETROIT at 32?

barryr
12-29-2011, 08:14 AM
Other than sb participants playoff wins have no bearing on draft placement. If memory serves.

You are right. The order goes by record despite playoff performance, with only the Super Bowl teams picking the last 2 spots.

broncocalijohn
12-29-2011, 08:22 AM
#25th? Isnt that where we picked up Tebow? Ironic if we went QB in that same spot. All I can say is if we are not getting a QB (And I don't think we will), it is about defense in the first two picks. We can get WR via FA.

55CrushEm
12-29-2011, 08:40 AM
You are right. The order goes by record despite playoff performance, with only the Super Bowl teams picking the last 2 spots.

That USED to be the case......they changed it a couple of years ago, though.

Now, the 20 teams that don't make the playoffs pick 1-20, according to record.

Picks 21-24, by regular season record.....are the teams that lose in the 1st playoff round.

25-28, by regular season record....the teams that lose in the division round.

29-30 are the AFC/NFC title game losers

31-32 are Superbowl champ/runner up.

mkporter
12-29-2011, 08:41 AM
Other than sb participants playoff wins have no bearing on draft placement. If memory serves.

I think your memory may not be serving you well...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Draft#Rules_for_determini ng_draft_order

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81d6b708/article/complete-order-of-first-round-of-2011-nfl-draft-determined

Seattle picked 25th last year despite being 7-9.

Boomhauer
12-29-2011, 05:16 PM
DETROIT at 32?

Why not? The saying "Offense wins games, defense wins championships" explains the other three teams getting knocked out during the division round alongside the Broncos.

Requiem
12-29-2011, 06:06 PM
Pointless ****ing thread.

TheReverend
12-29-2011, 07:39 PM
Ralph.







Pls go.

Archer81
12-29-2011, 08:42 PM
Lets say Detroit gets the 5 seed, they will play NYG or DAL. I say they have a 60% chance to win that one. If Atlanta wins in the WC, they would go to the highest seed, which is GB. I think NO wins the 2 seed. So Detroit then goes to NO. If they pull the upset, then they go to GB. So at worst they play the Giants, Saints and Packers to get to the SB...

Yeah...

...


:Broncos:

Boomhauer
12-29-2011, 09:19 PM
Could I get a clarification here?
- If SF and NO both lose this week, is SF the #2seed?
- If NE and PIT each end up 12-4, is NE the #2seed?
Asking because I have NO and PIT #2seeds in the OP under said outcomes.

Archer81
12-29-2011, 09:27 PM
Could I get a clarification here?
- If SF and NO both lose this week, is SF the #2seed?
- If NE and PIT each end up 12-4, is NE the #2seed?
Asking because I have NO and PIT #2seeds in the OP under said outcomes.


I believe SF would become the 2 seed. If Pitt and NE end up 12-4, and Baltimore loses, then Pittsburgh would be the 1 seed.

:Broncos:

Boomhauer
12-29-2011, 10:03 PM
"I believe SF would become the 2 seed. If Pitt and NE end up 12-4, and Baltimore loses, then Pittsburgh would be the 1 seed."

Thanks, Sir81. Since no one posted a #21-#32 order, implying the postseason breakdown, I'm reordering. Competition still stands for anyone willing. Denver now picks #29 by beating NE instead of losing to PIT in the division round as was stated in the OP.

#21 ATL
#22 BAL
#23 DAL
#24 HOU
--------------------------------
#25 CIN
#26 NO
#27 NE
#28 GB
--------------------------------
#29 DEN
#30 SF
--------------------------------
#31 PIT
#32 DET

broncosteven
12-30-2011, 01:05 AM
Shanny faced this year in and out during his last 8 years with the Broncos. This forced him to take risks with players like the bum CB from KFC (Dale Carter), the other Bum from KFC who quit on the team only to go back to KFC, IHOP, Travis (Babby Daddy/Scarface wannabe).

Had Shanny got one draft year in the top 5 of the league he could have had the chance to rebuild and bring in some inhouse talent we could have homegrown.

robbieopperude
12-30-2011, 02:34 AM
If we pick in the mid 20's there is a strong possibility we will be looking at Miller from the U at RB. If Elway remains true to his statement they take the BPA he will be the selection. The guy is a top 15 talent who is only listed in the mid 20's because the value of RB's has fallen for the draft.

GreeleyGrizzley
12-30-2011, 05:49 AM
Could any of us have even imagined this scenario three months ago?

Ray Finkle
12-30-2011, 06:20 AM
If we pick in the mid 20's there is a strong possibility we will be looking at Miller from the U at RB. If Elway remains true to his statement they take the BPA he will be the selection. The guy is a top 15 talent who is only listed in the mid 20's because the value of RB's has fallen for the draft.

I'd rather take another need and get a RB in the second round, there should be a ton of good ones to pick from.

Boomhauer
01-02-2012, 04:49 AM
Well, as expected this weekend's games shot my order to tihs. Most NFL weeks my guesses go around 12-4 to 10-6, but week #1 and #17 are always the trickiest. Went 9-7 this week, but the playoff scenario changes are the most profound.

- Dallas, Denver, Oakland, Cincinnati and Buffalo all lost games I thought they'd win
- SanFran and Norleans both showed up for games I didn't think they would. Any other week, and I'd guess they'd win and would have finished this week a more typical 11-5.

Instead of Denver playing/beating Baltimore in the wildcard round, beating Nengland in the Division round and losing to Pittsburgh in the Conference Championship, now Denver faces PIT in the Wildcard. Such is life any given Sunday.

Wildcard week is now;
CIN(6) vs HOU(3) and PIT(5) vs DEN(4)
DET(6) vs NO(3) and ATL(5) vs NYG(4)

PS. And to head off any followups on my weekly game selections; No, I never check the stats before making a selection. It's all on team play and player/coach personnel matchups. And no, other than maybe a dozen lottos, I've never gambled. Not even a slot machine or work pool.