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bronco militia
12-21-2011, 01:31 PM
Tebow finishes third in fans' Pro Bowl voting
December 21, 2011 1:20 PM
JEFF LEGWOLD
THE DENVER POST
With the fan voting for the Pro Bowl having closed, Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow finished third place among AFC quarterbacks with 632,912 votes, well behind Tom Brady​'s 1,454,311 votes. Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger finished second in the voting.

"I think he deserves it," offensive coordinator Mike McCoy said after practice today. "He's done a nice job since he stepped in. But when a quarterback gets an honor like that, you also have to look at the players around him. The 10 other players on the field every down with him, they deserve a lot of credit for his success."

Typically three quarterbacks are selected from each conference for the Pro Bowl. Coaches and players are voting this week.



Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/voting-130552-players-bowl.html#ixzz1hCuIyVi8

KO5K
12-21-2011, 01:41 PM
It sounds kind of ridiculous at first but then you step back and realize that you could make a legitimate argument for him being there. The AFC QBs have been pretty weak this year whether it's been because of bad play or injuries.

Can't see Tebow getting any players votes seeing as they voted him the most overrated player in the league (dumb, considering this was a few months back), not sure about coaches.

Either way, with the likes of Brady declining Tim could end up going anyway.

KO5K
12-21-2011, 01:43 PM
Willis McGahee (http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_19593979#)​ was fifth in the fan voting for AFC running backs, Elvis Dumervil (http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_19593979#)​ was third among AFC defensive ends, Von Miller was second among AFC outside linebackers, Champ Bailey (http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_19593979#)​ was fourth among AFC cornerbacks, Brian Dawkins (http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_19593979#)​ was third among AFC strong safeties and Britton Colquitt was second among AFC punters.Other Broncos...

MacGruder
12-21-2011, 01:50 PM
I don't know why this is even doubted.. he brought his team to the playoffs coming in with his team in a horrible hole - 1-4.

Didn't Vince Young go to the Pro Bowl with identical numbers? Did people complain about it then?

Pontius Pirate
12-21-2011, 01:52 PM
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Jay3
12-21-2011, 01:57 PM
Woody's theory is that (1) Tebow is a legitimately in the discussion, among the top 5; and (2) one or more candidate will be in the Super Bowl and not play; (3) somebody will bail for some other reason like injury; (4) they'll have to fill out the squad to have a game; and (5) Tebow is a money magnet for the league.

Ergo, somehow Tebow ends up playing in the Pro Bowl game. I don't know exactly how the procedures work when it comes to bailouts, etc.

lolcopter
12-21-2011, 02:12 PM
What exactly has big Ben to deserve the nod this year? Flacco blows, Sanchez blows, most all other AFC QBs blow

So by that measuring stick, why shouldn't tebow go?

Jay3
12-21-2011, 02:16 PM
What exactly has big Ben to deserve the nod this year? Flacco blows, Sanchez blows, most all other AFC QBs blow

So by that measuring stick, why shouldn't tebow go?

This is the short version of the Woody theory.

Hamrob
12-21-2011, 02:58 PM
I think the Pro Bowl starting QB's for the AFC will Be:

Tom Brady - Will decline because he's in the Superbowl or other reason
Big Ben - Will declide because he's injured

Phillip Rivers - Starter
Tim Tebow - #2
Joe Flacco - #3

The only other guys that might get consideration:

Matt Moore
Andy Dalton
Matt Hassleback

And, when you consider that Tebow has also rushed for 600 yards and 5 TD's...He really should be #3(period)!

x123z
12-21-2011, 02:58 PM
Tebow has done the most for his team.

OrangeSe7en
12-21-2011, 03:00 PM
I think, while some players may not like the attention Tebow gets, there are also a lot of players who appreciates how he helps the team win. The thing is, when it comes to the other QBs (not Brady or Roethlisberger), there is going to be a lot of fragmentation. And while a lot of people strongly dislike Tebow, there will also probably be a lot of people who strongly appreciate what he's about. And in a highly fragmented vote, those who strongly appreciate Tebow will carry more weight.

I'll put it another way to further elaborate. Let's say if 85% of the players in the league strongly dislike Tebow but 15% strongly like what he's about. A lot depends on how that 85% votes. If they overhwelmingly vote for the same guy, that's bad for Tebow. If they're fragmented, that's good. So, for example, lets say that 85% consists of:

Rivers-20%
Dalton-15%
Flacco-15%
Sanchez-15%
Fitzpatrick- 10%
Hasselbeck-10%

This is good.

If it's not fragmented and it's something like this:
Rivers-55%
Dalton-25%
Sanchez-5%

This is not as good.

So, while a lot of guys may be strongly averse to Tebow, that's not automatically the end of it.

broncocalijohn
12-21-2011, 03:05 PM
Players are not going to vote for Tebow because that means the defense will actually have to work and go follow and tackle a QB and of course the wide receivers won't pick him because most of those guys have the biggest egos and need the rock...especially at the Pro Bowl. No way he makes it unless 2 guys drop. That can happen with Big Ben hurting with the ankle sprain and Brady might be in the Super Bowl (wtf? I just made it where the Broncos are not in).

How about Tebow doesnt play because he will be in the Super Bowl.

MacGruder
12-21-2011, 03:08 PM
And while a lot of people strongly dislike Tebow, there will also probably be a lot of people who strongly appreciate what he's about.

I don't know.. the media storm is so out of control I think players feel they are being pushed to hate him. Football players are dumb.. everyone seems to be buying into the convenient excuse that the defense and kicker are carrying him.

Ironic that Tom Brady is being hyped and he plays for the greatest coach ever and was Tebow himself when he came into the league - he actually won with his D and kicker though. Tebow at least carries the run game and has made his team the best running team in the league.

Pontius Pirate
12-21-2011, 03:12 PM
Tebow has done the most for his team.

What about Andy Dalton stepping into the hot-mess that is Cincy and effectively leading a young team to the same record Tebow has?

OrangeSe7en
12-21-2011, 03:13 PM
I don't know.. the media storm is so out of control I think players feel they are being pushed to hate him. Football players are dumb.. everyone seems to be buying into the convenient excuse that the defense and kicker are carrying him.

Ironic that Tom Brady is being hyped and he plays for the greatest coach ever and was Tebow himself when he came into the league - he actually won with his D and kicker though. Tebow at least carries the run game and has made his team the best running team in the league.

See my revised post.

Jay3
12-21-2011, 03:21 PM
What about Andy Dalton stepping into the hot-mess that is Cincy and effectively leading a young team to the same record Tebow has?

He'll be in the mix. Probably ahead of Tebow.

OrangeSe7en
12-21-2011, 03:22 PM
What about Andy Dalton stepping into the hot-mess that is Cincy and effectively leading a young team to the same record Tebow has?

There's an old saying, "never trust a man with red pubic hair". Sorry but Dalton's a ginger.

epicSocialism4tw
12-21-2011, 03:27 PM
What about Andy Dalton stepping into the hot-mess that is Cincy and effectively leading a young team to the same record Tebow has?

Quit trolling, Broncbow.

KO5K
12-21-2011, 03:32 PM
What about Andy Dalton stepping into the hot-mess that is Cincy and effectively leading a young team to the same record Tebow has?

You mean Tebow + Orton's record...

Having to overcome Orton's mess puts Tebow ahead of Dalton.

Pony Boy
12-21-2011, 03:37 PM
There's an old saying, "never trust a man with red pubic hair". Sorry but Dalton's a ginger.

rather be dead than red on the head .....

Mogulseeker
12-21-2011, 03:55 PM
Colquitt deserves to go, but it looks like he wont.

lolcopter
12-21-2011, 04:22 PM
Colquitt deserves to go, but it looks like he wont.

i agree, but shane lechler is a dick

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epicSocialism4tw
12-21-2011, 04:44 PM
Lechler's an Aussie rules football guy. He could probably knock the crap out of 90% of the players on the field on any given snap.

Mile High Mojoe
12-21-2011, 04:51 PM
I hope the players and coaches would agree, I do. Everything turned around as soon as he became the starter. He may not have the skill or stats of a Rodgers but his leadership role in combination with his guts and determination make him worthy.

Jesterhole
12-21-2011, 08:16 PM
No way has Tebow played well enough to earn a Pro Bowl. I mean, I'm excited about the kid and all, but this is all about his popularity, and nothing to do with his play.

He is improving, but is no where near the top of the NFL as a passer. He's approaching average, slowly.

NFLBRONCO
12-21-2011, 08:18 PM
No way has Tebow played well enough to earn a Pro Bowl. I mean, I'm excited about the kid and all, but this is all about his popularity, and nothing to do with his play.

He is improving, but is no where near the top of the NFL as a passer. He's approaching average, slowly.

agree 100%

Vegas_Bronco
12-21-2011, 08:25 PM
Is the afc home or away this year...he should start if they are on the away side.

Mogulseeker
12-21-2011, 08:27 PM
i agree, but shane lechler is a dick

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A line drive into the endzone. Not that impressive.

canadianbroncosfan
12-21-2011, 08:36 PM
No way has Tebow played well enough to earn a Pro Bowl. I mean, I'm excited about the kid and all, but this is all about his popularity, and nothing to do with his play.

He is improving, but is no where near the top of the NFL as a passer. He's approaching average, slowly.

Play maybe not, but neither have a lot of other AFC QBs. That being said, the Pro Bowl is often heralded as being for the fans, and he is no doubt a fan favorite both in Sports Authority and around the league.

lonestar
12-22-2011, 12:05 PM
I SUSPECT THETY WOULD ONLY PLAY HIM IN THE 4TH QUARTER.

Considering his QBR is on the moon late in a game..

jhns
12-22-2011, 12:10 PM
No way has Tebow played well enough to earn a Pro Bowl. I mean, I'm excited about the kid and all, but this is all about his popularity, and nothing to do with his play.

He is improving, but is no where near the top of the NFL as a passer. He's approaching average, slowly.

What a joke.

He took over a 1-4 team. He is 7-2 and has the team in position to win the division. That team is 4-14 without him the last two seasons.

Tebow isn't just a passer. The QB position in the pro bowl is for the best performance at QB, not for the best thrower.

Abqbronco
12-22-2011, 05:30 PM
I don't know why this is even doubted.. he brought his team to the playoffs coming in with his team in a horrible hole - 1-4.

Didn't Vince Young go to the Pro Bowl with identical numbers? Did people complain about it then?

I did. I thought it was ridiculous that Young went to the Pro Bowl.

LaneLosh2
12-22-2011, 08:57 PM
Anyone know where Von finished in the fan voting?

canadianbroncosfan
12-22-2011, 09:43 PM
Anyone know where Von finished in the fan voting?

2nd for AFC outside linebackers