The History of Christmas

[Rohirrim]

Always on the lookout for more fun facts about us crazy apes who populate this planet, I found these interesting factoids about the revered and holy day of Christmas:

C. In the 4th century CE, Christianity imported the Saturnalia festival hoping to take the pagan masses in with it. Christian leaders succeeded in converting to Christianity large numbers of pagans by promising them that they could continue to celebrate the Saturnalia as Christians.[2]

D. The problem was that there was nothing intrinsically Christian about Saturnalia. To remedy this, these Christian leaders named Saturnalia’s concluding day, December 25th, to be Jesus’ birthday.

E. Christians had little success, however, refining the practices of Saturnalia. As Stephen Nissenbaum, professor history at the University of Massachussetts, Amherst, writes, “In return for ensuring massive observance of the anniversary of the Savior’s birth by assigning it to this resonant date, the Church for its part tacitly agreed to allow the holiday to be celebrated more or less the way it had always been.” The earliest Christmas holidays were celebrated by drinking, sexual indulgence, singing naked in the streets (a precursor of modern caroling), etc.

F. The Reverend Increase Mather of Boston observed in 1687 that “the early Christians who first observed the Nativity on December 25 did not do so thinking that Christ was born in that Month, but because the Heathens’ Saturnalia was at that time kept in Rome, and they were willing to have those Pagan Holidays metamorphosed into Christian ones.”[3] Because of its known pagan origin, Christmas was banned by the Puritans and its observance was illegal in Massachusetts between 1659 and 1681.[4] However, Christmas was and still is celebrated by most Christians.

G. Some of the most depraved customs of the Saturnalia carnival were intentionally revived by the Catholic Church in 1466 when Pope Paul II, for the amusement of his Roman citizens, forced Jews to race naked through the streets of the city. An eyewitness account reports, “Before they were to run, the Jews were richly fed, so as to make the race more difficult for them and at the same time more amusing for spectators. They ran… amid Rome’s taunting shrieks and peals of laughter, while the Holy Father stood upon a richly ornamented balcony and laughed heartily.”[5]

H. As part of the Saturnalia carnival throughout the 18th and 19th centuries CE, rabbis of the ghetto in Rome were forced to wear clownish outfits and march through the city streets to the jeers of the crowd, pelted by a variety of missiles. When the Jewish community of Rome sent a petition in1836 to Pope Gregory XVI begging him to stop the annual Saturnalia abuse of the Jewish community, he responded, “It is not opportune to make any innovation.”[6] On December 25, 1881, Christian leaders whipped the Polish masses into Antisemitic frenzies that led to riots across the country. In Warsaw 12 Jews were brutally murdered, huge numbers maimed, and many Jewish women were raped. Two million rubles worth of property was destroyed.
http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Christmas_TheRealStory.htm

Originally, during Saturnalia, the Roman towns would select a person to be wined and dined and orgied for a couple of weeks and then he or she would be sacrificed on the 25th. It was assumed that this person would carry the darkness and evil done throughout the year into the underworld with him, or her - in effect, taking the sins of the townsfolk with them. After awhile, the human sacrifice thing wavered in popularity and was replaced by little shapes of men made of gingerbread. Yum.

A. The Origin of Christmas Tree
Just as early Christians recruited Roman pagans by associating Christmas with the Saturnalia, so too worshippers of the Asheira cult and its offshoots were recruited by the Church sanctioning “Christmas Trees”.[7] Pagans had long worshipped trees in the forest, or brought them into their homes and decorated them, and this observance was adopted and painted with a Christian veneer by the Church.

If you think this is nuts, you should read about Easter. ;D

[Bronco_Beerslug]

F. The Reverend Increase Mather of Boston observed in 1687 that “the early Christians who first observed the Nativity on December 25 did not do so thinking that Christ was born in that Month, but because the Heathens’ Saturnalia was at that time kept in Rome, and they were willing to have those Pagan Holidays metamorphosed into Christian ones.”[3] Because of its known pagan origin, Christmas was banned by the Puritans and its observance was illegal in Massachusetts between 1659 and 1681.[4] However, Christmas was and still is celebrated by most Christians.

G. Some of the most depraved customs of the Saturnalia carnival were intentionally revived by the Catholic Church in 1466 when Pope Paul II, for the amusement of his Roman citizens, forced Jews to race naked through the streets of the city. An eyewitness account reports, “Before they were to run, the Jews were richly fed, so as to make the race more difficult for them and at the same time more amusing for spectators. They ran… amid Rome’s taunting shrieks and peals of laughter, while the Holy Father stood upon a richly ornamented balcony and laughed heartily.”[5]

Gotta love those Christian "traditions" ! :)

[ant1999e]

I didn't even bother reading the article but I'm.sure it was just a big shyt on Christmas. Why do you feel the urge to offend? You're no better than the crazy Christians. BTW, where is your Ramanad critique?

[W*GS]

Gotta love those Christian "traditions" ! :)

Not-so-skilfully stolen from other myths...

[barryr]

More fixation about religion, no wonder you don't like Tebow and never will. You can choose not to celebrate Christmas if you wish, but most choose to and do not need to search the internet to find a story that makes them feel justified in their feelings since not everybody is defensive and needing constant reassurance like yourself and others like you.

[Rohirrim]

More fixation about religion, no wonder you don't like Tebow and never will. You can choose not to celebrate Christmas if you wish, but most choose to and do not need to search the internet to find a story that makes them feel justified in their feelings since not everybody is defensive and needing constant reassurance like yourself and others like you.

Oh no! My stalker has found me again.

BTW, I like Tebow. Did you see this thread?http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=3427090&postcount=1?

I know there are some in this world who won't be satisfied until everybody believes in the same things they do, take North Korea for example, but I would rather not live in that world. Hope you can adapt. Merry Christmas!

[Boomhauer]

1999e - "I didn't even bother reading the article but I'm.sure it was just a big shyt on Christmas..."

Re; I did read the article and it was. Moreover, it wasn't a "History of Christmas" at all.

barryr - "..You can choose not to celebrate Christmas if you wish, but most choose to and do not need to search the internet to find a story that makes them feel justified in their feelings since not everybody is defensive and needing constant reassurance like yourself and others like you."

Re; That pretty much sums up the damned and their intrinsic self-loathing.

[Rohirrim]

I didn't even bother reading the article but I'm.sure it was just a big shyt on Christmas. Why do you feel the urge to offend? You're no better than the crazy Christians. BTW, where is your Ramanad critique?

This is a response to the drama llama launching a thread attacking the president because he did not have the "correct" ornaments on the national tree. I thought I would point out where the "tree" idea came from, where the holiday itself came from, and the fact that the same puritans who are attacking Obama's ornaments were, just a hundred years ago, opposed to the whole idea of christmas trees themselves. This country has always been under siege by puritans. Even before the revolution. It continues to this day. And they won't be happy until they replace the Constitution with the bible.

[Rohirrim]

1999e - "I didn't even bother reading the article but I'm.sure it was just a big shyt on Christmas..."

Re; I did read the article and it was. Moreover, it wasn't a "History of Christmas" at all.

barryr - "..You can choose not to celebrate Christmas if you wish, but most choose to and do not need to search the internet to find a story that makes them feel justified in their feelings since not everybody is defensive and needing constant reassurance like yourself and others like you."

Re; That pretty much sums up the damned and their intrinsic self-loathing.

"The damned and their intrinsic self-loathing?" :rofl: Man! I'll bet you're a hit at the madrassa. BTW, these guys agree with the history take: http://www.history.com/topics/christmas

In fact, for many Romans, December 25th was the holiest day of the year, because it was the birth date of Mithras. So the new church just co-opted the date and replaced Mithras with Jesus.

[Boomhauer]

Rohorim - "BTW, these guys agree with the history take http://www.history.com/topics/christmas"

The only commonality between that History channel overview and the crap you posted in the OP is your inference the date for Christmas was chosen in the 4th century and that it was shared with the Roman Sun-god's birthday.

[Rohirrim]

Rohorim - "BTW, these guys agree with the history take http://www.history.com/topics/christmas"

The only commonality between that History channel overview and the crap you posted in the OP is your inference the date for Christmas was chosen in the 4th century and that it was shared with the Roman Sun-god's birthday.

Obviously, you didn't read it. The only difference with the OP article is that it goes into more detail.

[ant1999e]

This is a response to the drama llama launching a thread attacking the president because he did not have the "correct" ornaments on the national tree. I thought I would point out where the "tree" idea came from, where the holiday itself came from, and the fact that the same puritans who are attacking Obama's ornaments were, just a hundred years ago, opposed to the whole idea of christmas trees themselves. This country has always been under siege by puritans. Even before the revolution. It continues to this day. And they won't be happy until they replace the Constitution with the bible.

So to get back at Epic, you shyt on the rest of Christianity and insult us? Do you realize that action like this make you just as bad as him. Just as bad as those who you say apparently have us "under siege". Not all of us are concerned with your lifestyle. I could give a shyt less how you live your life. And I would never criticize you for not being a Christian. Why not try a PM next time?

[Boomhauer]

Rohirim - "Obviously, you didn't read it. The only difference with the OP article is that it goes into more detail."

Re; I read them both and there is only differences except the two insignificant commonalities I pointed out.
The History review is brief, but all facts while your OP is winded diarrhea-of-the-mouth by (like you) a God/religion/Christianity-hating jackaz with self-worth issues and cry-baby stories. Go eat a cookie and go to bed.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Go eat a cookie and go to bed.
Is that another Xmas "tradition"?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Why do you feel the urge to offend?

Why do you find the presentation of facts offensive?

If you don't want to hear the facts, then make up your own.




(Wait - you already have!)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

So to get back at Epic, you shyt on the rest of Christianity and insult us?

So, noting the irony in epicSpammer's ignorant remarks about Xmas trees is the same thing as "getting back at" him?

And stating historical facts re: the origins of Xmas is the same thing as "shytting" on Xmas?

The bubble you inhabit is an insecure and logically challenged one indeed.

[Boomhauer]

LABF'er - "If you don't want to hear the facts, then make up your own."
"The bubble you inhabit is an insecure and logically challenged one indeed."

Re; The hypocrisy is strong with you and your ilk, LABF'er.

[Fedaykin]

So to get back at Epic, you shyt on the rest of Christianity and insult us?

Why is a little bit of history explaining the origin of Christmas insulting?

[Spider]

LABF'er - "If you don't want to hear the facts, then make up your own."
"The bubble you inhabit is an insecure and logically challenged one indeed."

Re; The hypocrisy is strong with you and your ilk, LABF'er.

what you run out of fake science to pimp on W*GS ?

[Requiem]

Why is a little bit of history explaining the origin of Christmas insulting?

Some people can't put 2 and 2 together.

[elsid13]

So to get back at Epic, you shyt on the rest of Christianity and insult us? Do you realize that action like this make you just as bad as him. Just as bad as those who you say apparently have us "under siege". Not all of us are concerned with your lifestyle. I could give a shyt less how you live your life. And I would never criticize you for not being a Christian. Why not try a PM next time?

I am confused he posted historical facts and therefore he "****ting" on Christianity??? Failure to understand our past, let's us continue to make the mistakes that have occurred before.

[Jay3]

BTW, where is your Ramanad critique?

Don't worry, they never have the guts to do it. I've got Hindu friends, Jewish friends, and I've had Muslim friends in the past. It's refreshing to live in respect for their traditions and even religious beliefs as fellow human beings.

When it comes to Christianity, guys like the OP lose their minds and suddenly become the font of all wisdom when it comes to what traditions should be considered stupid and irrational. But if he made an Indian friend who was Hindu, he would just sit in front of the Ganesh statue and shut his mouth like a little huckleberry. It never fails. ROFL!

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Don't worry, they never have the guts to do it. I've got Hindu friends, Jewish friends, and I've had Muslim friends in the past. It's refreshing to live in respect for their traditions and even religious beliefs as fellow human beings.
When it comes to Christianity, guys like the OP lose their minds and suddenly become the font of all wisdom when it comes to what traditions should be considered stupid and irrational. But if he made an Indian friend who was Hindu, he would just sit in front of the Ganesh statue and shut his mouth like a little huckleberry. It never fails. ROFL!
Noobies, have no history, know no history but speak for all...... Classic!!!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

LABF'er - "If you don't want to hear the facts, then make up your own."
"The bubble you inhabit is an insecure and logically challenged one indeed."

Re; The hypocrisy is strong with you and your ilk, LABF'er.

L0L @ you thinking your silly "I am rubber - you are glue" retorts are actual rebuttals.

But I suppose that's about par for the course for a barely-literate simpleton like you who names himself after some dumb cartoon character.

[Rohirrim]

So to get back at Epic, you shyt on the rest of Christianity and insult us? Do you realize that action like this make you just as bad as him. Just as bad as those who you say apparently have us "under siege". Not all of us are concerned with your lifestyle. I could give a shyt less how you live your life. And I would never criticize you for not being a Christian. Why not try a PM next time?

I don't consider history an insult.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Typical pot stirrer by one who fears religion greatly. The question in all this ought to be (but obviously wasn't once Roh found anything that denigrated a Christian tradition) is 'IS IT TRUE'.

Hint: You've posted a big lie. God forbid you'd actually consult a Catholic source before spewing non-facts, but we all know your mission here has never been to provide knowledge, but rather to incite. Same ol' lazy arse you've always been. Merry Saturnalia.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Typical pot stirrer by one who fears religion greatly. The question in all this ought to be (but obviously wasn't once Roh found anything that denigrated a Christian tradition) is 'IS IT TRUE'.

Hint: You've posted a big lie. God forbid you'd actually consult a Catholic source before spewing non-facts, but we all know your mission here has never been to provide knowledge, but rather to incite. Same ol' lazy arse you've always been. Merry Saturnalia.

Ha ha ha! :laugh:

He really put you snake handlers on the defensive.

Of course, listing the facts always does that.

[Rohirrim]

Typical pot stirrer by one who fears religion greatly. The question in all this ought to be (but obviously wasn't once Roh found anything that denigrated a Christian tradition) is 'IS IT TRUE'.

Hint: You've posted a big lie. God forbid you'd actually consult a Catholic source before spewing non-facts, but we all know your mission here has never been to provide knowledge, but rather to incite. Same ol' lazy arse you've always been. Merry Saturnalia.

Here's a Catholic site's interpretation of the same facts:
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/liturgicalyear/activities/view.cfm?id=643

The date of December 25 was established about the year 320, and the Popes seem to have chosen the twenty-fifth day of December principally to divert the attention of the people from the celebration of a pagan feast of the Mithras cult which was called the "Birthday of the Unconquered Sun" (Natalis Solis Invicti). This does not in any manner indicate that Christmas is merely a "christianized" pagan feast, for Christians of that time realized with St. John Chrysostom: "The pagans call December 25 the Birthday of the Unconquered. Who is indeed so unconquered as Our Lord? . . . or, if they say that it is the birthday of the Sun, He is the Sun of Justice."

[Boomhauer]

LABF'er -
1) "L0L @ you thinking your silly "I am rubber - you are glue" retorts are actual rebuttals.
2) But I suppose that's about par for the course for a barely-literate simpleton like you
3) who names himself after some dumb cartoon character."

Re1) An interesting, but expected response from the perspective of such a juvenile mind. I had nothing to rebuke, as the quotes of yours I listed were directed at another poster. I was merely pointing out how strong the hypocrisy is with you.
Re2) Thank you for again proving your hypocrisy, in case there was any doubt, and expounding on the notion your neurons stopped developing in preschool.
Re3) I dig my name, which is why I chose it. But what can be drawn from your handle, LABF'er, and the kind of mind that would select it?

[Spider]

I didn't even bother reading the article but I'm.sure it was just a big shyt on Christmas. Why do you feel the urge to offend? You're no better than the crazy Christians. BTW, where is your Ramanad critique?

this is my policy on this , if someone tells you Merry Xmas , tell em Merry x mas back , if they say happy holidays , say it back etc ..........Christmas means what you make it for you and your loved ones , let others make it what works for them ..... On my face book page I put ...Just so everyone knows really dont care if you have a holiday tree or a Christmas tree , Just as long as you have something that makes you happy ,after all the holidays means something different to everyone , be thankful u have family ......somewhere some how people have lost sight of this , turned x mas into a political football .....

[Spider]

Typical pot stirrer by one who fears religion greatly. The question in all this ought to be (but obviously wasn't once Roh found anything that denigrated a Christian tradition) is 'IS IT TRUE'.

Hint: You've posted a big lie. God forbid you'd actually consult a Catholic source before spewing non-facts, but we all know your mission here has never been to provide knowledge, but rather to incite. Same ol' lazy arse you've always been. Merry Saturnalia.

Idiot

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

LABF'er -
1) "L0L @ you thinking your silly "I am rubber - you are glue" retorts are actual rebuttals.
2) But I suppose that's about par for the course for a barely-literate simpleton like you
3) who names himself after some dumb cartoon character."

Re1) An interesting, but expected response from the perspective of such a juvenile mind. I had nothing to rebuke, as the quotes of yours I listed were directed at another poster. I was merely pointing out how strong the hypocrisy is with you.
Re2) Thank you for again proving your hypocrisy, in case there was any doubt, and expounding on the notion your neurons stopped developing in preschool.
Re3) I dig my name, which is why I chose it. But what can be drawn from your handle, LABF'er, and the kind of mind that would select it?

L0L @ you struggling to form coherent English sentences. :laugh:

You can almost feel your small cranium straining...

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[Fedaykin]

It's amazing how defensive you all are getting about some simple facts that are acknowledged by even the Church.

Both of the major Christian holidays (Christmas and Easter) are timed to coincide with pagan festivals and incorporate a huge amount of pagan customs (and even adopted pagan deities) simply because the very early Christians were a lot better at PR than latter and modern Christians. There's no shame in it -- it's a lot better way to try to convert followers than other methods attempted.

[W*GS]

Re; That pretty much sums up the damned and their intrinsic self-loathing.

Now I know from where you get your denial of manmade climate change.

AFAYC, it's an atheist/leftist plot against the Chosen and Americans.

No wonder you get the science wrong - because you got no science at all.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

It's amazing how defensive you all are getting about some simple facts that are acknowledged by even the Church.

Both of the major Christian holidays (Christmas and Easter) are timed to coincide with pagan festivals and incorporate a huge amount of pagan customs (and even adopted pagan deities) simply because the very early Christians were a lot better at PR than latter and modern Christians. There's no shame in it -- it's a lot better way to try to convert followers than other methods attempted.

:yep:


History can be (and is) "inconvenient" for some people here.

[Boomhauer]

LABF'er - "L0L @ you struggling to form coherent English sentences."

Re; You just can't seem to help continuing to show your hypocrisy - now using "@" and "L0L" straight from the twitterverse or minds of 12yr old girls to try and form sentences.
If my comments are over your head and incomprehensible to you, just say so and I'll dumb it down a bit for you. But making an az out of yourself with slf-pwnage isn't quite as comic as you may think. It's really about as sad as watching "F*GS the CO2-hysteric" try and argue about global warming.

[Boomhauer]

F*GS - "Now I know from where you get your denial of manmade climate change."

Re; Always great to here your blatant lies F*GS. In the repeated beatdowns I've consistently delivered to you on climatology and global warming, I've always agreed with the data showing increasing temps and belief it's almost entirely due to mankind's actions. It's the cause of rising temps where I disagree with you and all fanatic, oblivious CO2-hysterics.

So does your above comment make you a liar, or a moron that should know better? Either way, let's just call it a "Progressive" statement.

[Boomhauer]

History can be (and is) "inconvenient" for some people here.

True dat. But this thread isn't about the history of Christmas - It's about Rorhim lying about and shyting upon Christmas while trying to play it off as a history lesson.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

True dat. But this thread isn't about the history of Christmas - It's about Rorhim lying about and shyting upon Christmas while trying to play it off as a history lesson.

Really? Why don't you post the "real" history of Christmas?

[Boomhauer]

Really? Why don't you post the "real" history of Christmas?

Go ahead and check the link on post#10 for a good start and, as I mentioned in that post, you'll see the stark contrast to the Christianity-hating BS that God-hating Rohirm started this thread with.

[Rohirrim]

Go ahead and check the link on post#10 for a good start and, as I mentioned in that post, you'll see the stark contrast to the Christianity-hating BS that God-hating Rohirm started this thread with.

What is it with you crack-pot fundamentalists and your "hater" stuff? Question Tebow on anything he does (like taking a 29 yard sack) and you're a "hater." Post a history of how mankind took this poor aesthete named Jesus and over a few hundred years built up a massive cult around him (with accompanying billion dollar church) and you're "god-hating." How can you hate something that doesn't exist?

You guys remind me of the North Koreans: Either join the herd or die. ;D

[W*GS]

I've always agreed with the data showing increasing temps and belief it's almost entirely due to mankind's actions. It's the cause of rising temps where I disagree [...]

The two pieces above contradict each other. And you never showed that you've gone through Met 101 by being able to define specific and relative humidity.

But, we've already got a thread for that, which you've quit. Coward.

[Boomhauer]

Rohrim -
1) "What is it with you crack-pot fundamentalists and your "hater" stuff?"
2) Post a history of how (Christian-hating rant) and you're "god-hating." How can you hate something that doesn't exist?
3) You guys remind me of (Al Gore, F*GS and CO2-hysterics): Either join the herd or die.

Re1) Kind of confused why you'd call me a "fundamentalist" - refering to the Christians you hate - considering I'm neither Christian nor religious. Never have been and have stated such here before. So is there an alternative "fundamentalist" group you consider "crack-pot" and ascribe me to, or just being your typical idiot self?
Re2) You haven't posted a "history" of anything, only attempted slandering a Christian holiday. Now it seems you've fallen back on your true colors as a Christian-hater that, despite what you believe Christ's role in society was, enjoys spitting on him and anyone that respects him.
Nice way to finish that statement to, with an F U to God. The ostriches that raised you must be proud.
Re3) While N.Korea was appropriate, so is what I inserted. You could say the same about any Socialist/Fascist/Communist movement, including America's political left, as well as the Terrorism Industrial Complex that infects both parties equally.

[DenverBrit]

I didn't even bother reading the article but I'm.sure it was just a big shyt on Christmas. Why do you feel the urge to offend? You're no better than the crazy Christians. BTW, where is your Ramanad critique?

Then you're wrong on many levels.

Dec 25th was a pagan holiday. Church leaders adopted the date in the 3rd century.
It has nothing to do with Jesus, it was to attempt to divert pagan worship.

Why does history bother so many??

[Rohirrim]

Rohrim -
1) "What is it with you crack-pot fundamentalists and your "hater" stuff?"
2) Post a history of how (Christian-hating rant) and you're "god-hating." How can you hate something that doesn't exist?
3) You guys remind me of (Al Gore, F*GS and CO2-hysterics): Either join the herd or die.

Re1) Kind of confused why you'd call me a "fundamentalist" - refering to the Christians you hate - considering I'm neither Christian nor religious. Never have been and have stated such here before. So is there an alternative "fundamentalist" group you consider "crack-pot" and ascribe me to, or just being your typical idiot self?
Re2) You haven't posted a "history" of anything, only attempted slandering a Christian holiday. Now it seems you've fallen back on your true colors as a Christian-hater that, despite what you believe Christ's role in society was, enjoys spitting on him and anyone that respects him.
Nice way to finish that statement to, with an F U to God. The ostriches that raised you must be proud.
Re3) While N.Korea was appropriate, so is what I inserted. You could say the same about any Socialist/Fascist/Communist movement, including America's political left, as well as the Terrorism Industrial Complex that infects both parties equally.

By "ostriches", I assume you're slandering my parents?

[Boomhauer]

Rohirm - By "ostriches", I assume you're slandering my parents?

Re; I don't know the details of your upbringing, but since you're a mindless uber-leftist, I'd guess you're philosophically and personally a near-clone to whatever was around at the time and, likely, now. I was just pointing out these influences likely had their heads in the sand and tailpipes in the air since you display those traits.

[Rohirrim]

Rohirm - By "ostriches", I assume you're slandering my parents?

Re; I don't know the details of your upbringing, but since you're a mindless uber-leftist, I'd guess you're philosophically and personally a near-clone to whatever was around at the time and, likely, now. I was just pointing out these influences likely had their heads in the sand and tailpipes in the air since you display those traits.

Nice edit, chicken ****. Ha!

[W*GS]

Nice edit, chicken ****. Ha!

Expecting honesty from our resident teabaggers is expecting far too much.

They have to lie to themselves (which then leaks out to others) to maintain their dogma. Doublethink at its finest.

[Boomhauer]

F*GS - "Expecting honesty from our resident teabaggers is expecting far too much."

Re; You got the same issue as LABF'er - glaring hypocrisy.
My repeated pwnage of your CO2-hysteria is a great example of the blanket of lies you wrap yourself in and try to sell to others (while politically, those lies are used to rob $billions from taxpayers to funnel into connected companies).
Or in your words - ""They have to lie to themselves (which then leaks out to others) to maintain their dogma."

When directly challenged on substance, all you could do to avoid showing what an ignorant fraud you are and the total scam that is CO2-hysteria was run into the corner and try to shield yourself by repeating an answered vocabulary question.
Or to use your words - "No wonder you get the science wrong - because you got no science at all."

[W*GS]

My repeated pwnage of your CO2-hysteria is a great example of the blanket of lies you wrap yourself in and try to sell to others (while politically, those lies are used to rob $billions from taxpayers to funnel into connected companies).

You're really living in a fantasyland.

You don't even know the difference between specific and relative humidity, and think a reanalysis is observations. That's top-shelf stupidity.

[Boomhauer]

F*GS - "You don't even know the difference between specific and relative humidity, and think a reanalysis is observations."

Re; Always great to here your blatant lies F*GS. That's as true as your previous statement claiming I'm a global warming denier and makes it seem you're still curled up in your same corner of failure after yet another beatdown I delivered.
To repeat a previous question; Does your above comment make you a liar, or a moron that should know better? Either way, let's just call it a "Progressive" statement.F*GS -

[W*GS]

So start clearing your name and tell me what

specific humidity

and

relative humidity

are.

I'll even allow an open book.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

This is how the Republican Party would treat Jesus, if he were alive today...

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[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Re; You got the same issue as LABF'er - glaring hypocrisy.

There you go slinging sh*t against the wall again in the hope something will stick.

Still waiting for the specifics re: this alleged "glaring hypocrisy."



My repeated pwnage of your CO2-hysteria...

L0L! Hilarious!

Gotta love the Internet: a place where pretenders like you can get their asses kicked (repeatedly) and still declare victory.

[Spider]

F*GS - "You don't even know the difference between specific and relative humidity, and think a reanalysis is observations."

Re; Always great to here your blatant lies F*GS. That's as true as your previous statement claiming I'm a global warming denier and makes it seem you're still curled up in your same corner of failure after yet another beatdown I delivered.
To repeat a previous question; Does your above comment make you a liar, or a moron that should know better? Either way, let's just call it a "Progressive" statement.F*GS -Hilarious! you have way to high of an opinion of yourself

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Go ahead and check the link on post#10 for a good start and, as I mentioned in that post, you'll see the stark contrast to the Christianity-hating BS that God-hating Rohirm started this thread with.

You mean this....."Christmas Day–has been a federal holiday in the United States since 1870."

So Christmas started in 1870, end of story?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Re; You just can't seem to help continuing to show your hypocrisy - now using "@" and "L0L" straight from the twitterverse or minds of 12yr old girls to try and form sentences.


You make those 12 year-old girls look like MENSA material by comparison.

[Boomhauer]

you have way to high of an opinion of yourself

My brashness may make it appear that way, but if you knew me in person, you'd consider me modest. I'm that good.
http://beutifullyme.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/funny-pictures-cat-thinks-he-is-better-than-you.jpg

[W*GS]

My brashness may make it appear that way, but if you knew me in person, you'd consider me modest. I'm that good.

Hint. This:

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is not eight inches, despite what you think.

That you can't even begin to understand, much less answer, the most basic questions that I've asked, tells me that your opinion of your knowledge is hugely (to put it mildly) overstated.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

It's amazing how defensive you all are getting about some simple facts that are acknowledged by even the Church.


They're reacting like children who have just been told there is no Santa Claus.

Ha!

[Spider]

My brashness may make it appear that way, but if you knew me in person, you'd consider me modest. I'm that good.
http://beutifullyme.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/funny-pictures-cat-thinks-he-is-better-than-you.jpg

No I am petty sure your full of Shiat in person