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cmhargrove
12-20-2011, 11:45 AM
I can't believe there hasn't been any talk about this since Sunday. I first watched the video and had a hard time with it. All 3 of my boys play football, and you just can't help but feel terrible for an unfortunate injury.

The video is hard to watch, but I just can't believe the guy is still alive. Anyway, it sound like he is recovering from back surgery, but here is the video of the Johnny Knox injury vs. Seattle last Sunday.

If you have a weak stomach, just don't watch.

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vancejohnson82
12-20-2011, 11:47 AM
yea, really scary injury

glad to hear that the surgery went well...hope the rehab goes without a hitch and he gets to play football again

Smiling Assassin27
12-20-2011, 12:27 PM
Dude got turned into a human slinky. Brutal.

gyldenlove
12-20-2011, 12:30 PM
Oh snap!

Doggcow
12-20-2011, 12:51 PM
I saw that live. I'm glad he's alright. I was really hoping he would just survive the hit, and hopefully not be paralyzed.

After seeing that, I believe all football players should have all their medical expenses covered by the league for the rest of their lives. No exceptions.

SportinOne
12-20-2011, 12:52 PM
yeah.. that and maybe scat players shouldn't be up there with the big boys.. jesus... err i mean Timothy.

Kid A
12-20-2011, 12:55 PM
Watch enough sports and you start to get pretty unfazed by seeing legs snapped, feet folding the wrong way, etc. That one, though, makes you light headed to just think about afterward. Amazing he'll probably be back out on the field week 1 next year.

oubronco
12-20-2011, 12:56 PM
I'm surprised he isn't paralyzed after that

God speed in his recovery

BroncoDoug
12-20-2011, 01:00 PM
very scary, I didn't know human bodies could bend that way

Pick Six
12-20-2011, 01:22 PM
I saw the injury live, but the first thing on my mind was "That was helmet-to-helmet". I guess I've been conditioned to watch for those things, now...

Shotgun Willie
12-20-2011, 01:24 PM
After seeing that, I believe all football players should have all their medical expenses covered by the league for the rest of their lives. No exceptions.

Do you realize how many people you're talking about here? That alone would probably bankrupt every single owner.

And how would you enforce it for new owners buying a team? They'd all of a sudden inherit thousands of people's healthcare expenses who no longer play for the team, and haven't for maybe decades?

And what about players that get traded? Who picks them up after retirement?

Pick Six
12-20-2011, 01:33 PM
BTW, that's nothing. I STILL get queasy from Tim Krumrie's broken leg at the Super Bowl several years ago...

Marshall Dumervil
12-20-2011, 01:52 PM
BTW, that's nothing. I STILL get queasy from Tim Krumrie's broken leg at the Super Bowl several years ago...

Or Eddie Mac flying through the air upside down with his leg flappin in the breeze. That was nasty, September 10th, 2001. Hard to forget that game.

oubronco
12-20-2011, 02:29 PM
http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ed-mccaffrey-broken-leg.jpg

ghwk
12-20-2011, 04:00 PM
This needs to be renamed to the horrendous injury thread.

Theisman was the lead contender until Knox came along.

hades
12-20-2011, 04:09 PM
very scary, I didn't know human bodies could bend that way

That was crazy. ever watch Wipeout on ABC, some of those falls people take look even worse!

chickennob2
12-20-2011, 04:12 PM
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cabronco
12-20-2011, 04:19 PM
Seeing it live during the game at first glance, I thought he got spun around and bent forward. Its like my mind was thinking a person just cant bend in two backwards in a football tackle like that. Thats just ugly, unfortunate, and wishing the best for Johnny Knox.

theAPAOps5
12-20-2011, 05:19 PM
Wow, I had heard about it and read the updates saying his career is not in Jeopardy at this point witch a chance to return in 2012. But I just saw this and man that is scary.

epicSocialism4tw
12-20-2011, 05:25 PM
I hadn't heard about this...what was the diagnosis on his injury? Did he fracture vertebrae?

Kid A
12-20-2011, 05:34 PM
I hadn't heard about this...what was the diagnosis on his injury? Did he fracture vertebrae?

Yes, one I believe. He underwent surgery Monday to stabilize it. Should recover fully in 3-4 months.

Mogulseeker
12-20-2011, 05:37 PM
I didn't even know this happened until I saw it. Wow... thoughts are with Knox.

broncosteven
12-20-2011, 05:37 PM
I hadn't heard about this...what was the diagnosis on his injury? Did he fracture vertebrae?

I think they said on AM1000 in Chicago that they had to fuse the fractured vert, as long as none of his nerves were damaged he should be OK, he will never be what he was before the accident but he should be OK.

wandlc
12-20-2011, 05:49 PM
[QUOTE=cmhargrove;3428515]I can't believe there hasn't been any talk about this since Sunday. I first watched the video and had a hard time with it. All 3 of my boys play football, and you just can't help but feel terrible for an unfortunate injury.

The video is hard to watch, but I just can't believe the guy is still alive. Anyway, it sound like he is recovering from back surgery, but here is the video of the Johnny Knox injury vs. Seattle last Sunday.

If you have a weak stomach, just don't watch.]


Speaking of sons, how was your son's first year at Rolla?

theAPAOps5
12-20-2011, 05:57 PM
I think they said on AM1000 in Chicago that they had to fuse the fractured vert, as long as none of his nerves were damaged he should be OK, he will never be what he was before the accident but he should be OK.

Well they think he will be playing in 2012 so he is much better than most.

That vertebrae fusion is the same thing they did with Payton Manning just different situations led to it. He is very lucky.

broncosteven
12-20-2011, 06:04 PM
Well they think he will be playing in 2012 so he is much better than most.

That vertebrae fusion is the same thing they did with Payton Manning just different situations led to it. He is very lucky.

I heard a couple different things, not 100% sure.

I think he should recover quickly and be spared the chronic nerve damage because the nerve wasn't being pinched prior to the injury and they fixed the damage quickly.

Guys like me or Payton had issues with the nerve being pinched for months on end while the Dr's were diagnosing it.

I doubt he will ever be as fast as he was, I would give him huge props for being able to get back to the NFL after that. I am not sure I would play again after that. Walking and being pain free is a good thing.

theAPAOps5
12-20-2011, 06:08 PM
I sure as heck wouldn't.This made me think about Dominik Hixon and Kevin Everett getting paralyzed. I would probably just walk away just being on the field after that can't imaging actually coming back and playing if there was a chance.

Bronx33
12-20-2011, 06:10 PM
Sad to say but knox wont be coming back for years injuries like that dont hold up well in the nfl.

theAPAOps5
12-20-2011, 06:19 PM
Sad to say but knox wont be coming back for years injuries like that dont hold up well in the nfl.

Or next year.... he supposedly suffered no spine damage and can undergo rehab and contact in 3 to 4 months

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-12-20/chicago-bears-wide-receiver-johnny-knox-goes-on-ir-could-return-for-2012

Even the possibility of playing is crazy given the hit.

Bronx33
12-20-2011, 06:20 PM
Or next year.... he supposedly suffered no spine damage and can undergo rehab and contact in 3 to 4 months

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-12-20/chicago-bears-wide-receiver-johnny-knox-goes-on-ir-could-return-for-2012

Even the possibility of playing is crazy given the hit.


I will believe it when i see it and i really hope i see it.

theAPAOps5
12-20-2011, 06:38 PM
I will believe it when i see it and i really hope i see it.

Exactly that is my point supposedly he may return and if he does that is amazing. Given that video.

cmhargrove
12-20-2011, 06:44 PM
[QUOTE=cmhargrove;3428515]I can't believe there hasn't been any talk about this since Sunday. I first watched the video and had a hard time with it. All 3 of my boys play football, and you just can't help but feel terrible for an unfortunate injury.

The video is hard to watch, but I just can't believe the guy is still alive. Anyway, it sound like he is recovering from back surgery, but here is the video of the Johnny Knox injury vs. Seattle last Sunday.

If you have a weak stomach, just don't watch.]


Speaking of sons, how was your son's first year at Rolla?

He just came home for the Christmas break. He feels like he did really well for his first semester, all A's and B's. I consider it a great success with being new to college, football, etc..

About football, he played every game, and by about the third game, he took the starting Right Guard position from the two Juniors ahead of him. So, he played most of the season as the starting Right Guard, but he was able to flip Right and Left depending on injuries on the line. Since he has really good feet, he is their main "pulling guard," and the offense started running pretty heavily behind him as the year rolled on.

He ended the season at 6'4" 330lbs. The other day after a big meal, he actually weighed in at 346 lbs. I never thought I would have a kid that weighed 346 pounds!

cutthemdown
12-20-2011, 06:49 PM
I saw the injury live, but the first thing on my mind was "That was helmet-to-helmet". I guess I've been conditioned to watch for those things, now...

Helmet to helmet rules do not protect players running with the ball. Amazes me how many people don't understand that rule.

cutthemdown
12-20-2011, 06:50 PM
I sure as heck wouldn't.This made me think about Dominik Hixon and Kevin Everett getting paralyzed. I would probably just walk away just being on the field after that can't imaging actually coming back and playing if there was a chance.

Hixon got paralyzed? I thought he just blew a knee or something?

broncosteven
12-20-2011, 06:56 PM
Hixon got paralyzed? I thought he just blew a knee or something?

He meant the dude he hit.

theAPAOps5
12-20-2011, 07:03 PM
Hixon got paralyzed? I thought he just blew a knee or something?

No Everett got paralyzed hitting him. Hixon ended up being shell shocked and was cut in an attempt to place on the Practice Squad to regain his form.

That is what I meant I though of that injury as that is the last big one involving the Broncos.

My point was I don't think I would want to play even witnessing it let alone having it happen to me and coming back.

Marshall Dumervil
12-20-2011, 07:33 PM
No Everett got paralyzed hitting him. Hixon ended up being shell shocked and was cut in an attempt to place on the Practice Squad to regain his form.

That is what I meant I though of that injury as that is the last big one involving the Broncos.

My point was I don't think I would want to play even witnessing it let alone having it happen to me and coming back.

Everett isn't paralyzed, he recovered. Good for him, extremely lucky.

theAPAOps5
12-20-2011, 07:35 PM
Everett isn't paralyzed, he recovered. Good for him, extremely lucky.

he was paralyzed and at one point the DR said it was life threatening. He is still disabled but has regained most movement and walked, you are right.

Wasn't it because of some technique they had just come up with that essentially lowered his body temp to stunt the damage?

I will have to look that up

EDIT: Found it http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/16/sports/football/16everett.html

Chilled him from inside using injected liquids

theAPAOps5
12-20-2011, 07:40 PM
Here is something pretty cool that I didn't hear:

On May 12, 2008 Everett was waived by the Buffalo Bills (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Bills) to allow him to be eligible to immediately apply for lifetime disability benefits. The Bills kept Everett on the active roster prior to waiving him to ensure that he completed three full NFL seasons, allowing him to qualify for a full pension.

Awesome move by the Bills

vonqkilla
12-20-2011, 08:09 PM
That was scary... Yikes.

wandlc
12-20-2011, 09:13 PM
[QUOTE=wandlc;3429119]

He just came home for the Christmas break. He feels like he did really well for his first semester, all A's and B's. I consider it a great success with being new to college, football, etc..

About football, he played every game, and by about the third game, he took the starting Right Guard position from the two Juniors ahead of him. So, he played most of the season as the starting Right Guard, but he was able to flip Right and Left depending on injuries on the line. Since he has really good feet, he is their main "pulling guard," and the offense started running pretty heavily behind him as the year rolled on.

He ended the season at 6'4" 330lbs. The other day after a big meal, he actually weighed in at 346 lbs. I never thought I would have a kid that weighed 346 pounds!

Congratulations to him, that is impressive both academically(engineering right) and athletically. Do you think they will move him outside to tackle in the future?

cmhargrove
12-21-2011, 06:45 AM
[QUOTE=cmhargrove;3429172]

Congratulations to him, that is impressive both academically(engineering right) and athletically. Do you think they will move him outside to tackle in the future?

Yes, he is studying mechanical engineering right now. His feet are actually more developed than this year's Tackles, but one of the starting Tackles is 6'6", and the other is 6'8", so they are more "prototypical," and definitely worth developing. My son loves playing any spot on the line, but he is truly the bulldozer type, and Guard is where he should be. He was dominating 320 lb nose tackles this year (and everything else in the middle of the d-line), and I can't wait to see how he develops with a full year in his collegiate offseason program. He can't get rid of his High School mentality, and has already started talking to the d-line coach (who loves him), to see if he can get some two-way rotation in at Nose Tackle next year.

It should be fun to watch, and next year the team looks like it could be really strong. I will be really surprised if they don't have at least 9 wins next year.