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Rohirrim

12-07-2011, 08:55 AM

Sorry. That's all I've got...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/06/barack-obama-payroll-tax-cuts_n_1132050.html

Oh, yeah. Now he's trying on TR for size. He's got the "speak softly" part down, but he hasn't figured out the "big stick" part yet. Maybe Goldman Sachs will lend him theirs?

ant1999e

12-07-2011, 11:51 AM

Glad you're being sarcastic.

Smiling Assassin27

12-07-2011, 12:41 PM

Is he? ;)

Best teleprompter reader the Office has ever known, for sure.

Rohirrim

12-07-2011, 01:21 PM

Glad you're being sarcastic.

Not really. This is just all a bunch of feel good stuff, totally devoid of substance. TR would be shouting, "With your help, I'm going to take down Citizens United! I'm going to drive these thieves and scoundrels from K Street and take our government back!" And he'd start traveling the country selling actual, progressive policy. Obama knows how to make a soup, but there's no meat in it.

Rigs11

12-07-2011, 01:24 PM

still heads above what the gop has.

Perry:Obama is on war against religion!

Newt:Obama is the food stamp president!

:rofl:

ant1999e

12-07-2011, 02:12 PM

still heads above what the gop has.

Perry:Obama is on war against religion!

Newt:Obama is the food stamp president!

:rofl:

Hope that works out for you. Being ****ed is still being ****ed regardless of whose dick it is. I guess you have a dick preference.

mosca

12-07-2011, 02:34 PM

still heads above what the gop has.

Perry:Obama is on war against religion!

Newt:Obama is the food stamp president!

:rofl:
Being "better than the GOP" doesn't amount to much. It's definitely not a justification for voting for someone, especially if they are a lousy candidate who delivers on nothing they promise.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

12-07-2011, 02:52 PM

Is he? ;)

Best teleprompter reader the Office has ever known, for sure.

Teleprompter smack from a Bush chicken head?

Priceless! :rofl:

Your boy Dumbya still couldn't speak in complete sentences - even with the aid of a teleprompter.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

12-07-2011, 02:54 PM

I guess have a dick preference.

You certainly do.

You prefer Dubya's - preferably hard, fast, and repeatedly.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

12-07-2011, 02:55 PM

Not really. This is just all a bunch of feel good stuff, totally devoid of substance. TR would be shouting, "With your help, I'm going to take down Citizens United! I'm going to drive these thieves and scoundrels from K Street and take our government back!" And he'd start traveling the country selling actual, progressive policy. Obama knows how to make a soup, but there's no meat in it.

Yep.

Obama is nothing more than an empty suit/Wall St. stooge.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun

12-07-2011, 03:09 PM

Rohirrim

12-07-2011, 03:10 PM

Yep.

Obama is nothing more than an empty suit/Wall St. stooge.

And yet, he's still better than anything the Republicans can come up with. Ha!

ant1999e

12-07-2011, 03:14 PM

And yet, he's still better than anything the Republicans can come up with. Ha!

I wouldn't say better. I'd say as bad.

Rohirrim

12-07-2011, 03:29 PM

I think Obama is right about bringing up TR's famous "On the New Nationalism" speech. It seems, for some reason, that we are right back to 1910, having to fight old battles all over again. And this is because greed never sleeps. For the last fifty years, we have seen a concerted, and planned effort by corporations to dismantle the progressive state that was founded by TR. One need only read the Lewis Powell memos of the 1960s to see that what we have now has been the plan all along. This is what TR said in 1910:

I stand for the square deal. But when I say that I am for the square deal, I mean not merely that I stand for fair play under the present rules of the game, but that I stand for having those rules changed so as to work for a more substantial equality of opportunity and of reward for equally good service. One word of warning, which, I think, is hardly necessary in Kansas. When I say I want a square deal for the poor man, I do not mean that I want a square deal for the man who remains poor because he has not got the energy to work for himself. If a man who has had a chance will not make good, then he has got to quit. And you men of the Grand Army, you want justice for the brave man who fought, and punishment for the coward who shirked his work. Is that not so?

Now, this means that our government, National and State, must be freed from the sinister influence or control of special interests. Exactly as the special interests of cotton and slavery threatened our political integrity before the Civil War, so now the great special business interests too often control and corrupt the men and methods of government for their own profit. We must drive the special interests out of politics. That is one of our tasks to-day. Every special interest is entitled to justice-full, fair, and complete-and, now, mind you, if there were any attempt by mob-violence to plunder and work harm to the special interest, whatever it may be, that I most dislike, and the wealthy man, whomsoever he may be, for whom I have the greatest contempt, I would fight for him, and you would if you were worth your salt. He should have justice. For every special interest is entitled to justice, but not one is entitled to a vote in Congress, to a voice on the bench, or to representation in any public office. The Constitution guarantees protection to property, and we must make that promise good. But it does not give the right of suffrage to any corporation. http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?document=501

The fight against the greed of special interests never ends.

And if you look at the platform of the Republican Party, it is the agenda of the corporatists, in black and white.

You know, I sent a copy of this speech to Obama a year ago with a note that said this should be the core of his policy... hmmmm. ;D

Rigs11

12-07-2011, 04:04 PM

Hope that works out for you. Being ****ed is still being ****ed regardless of whose dick it is. I guess you have a dick preference.

Once again you show your IQ level for the whole board to see.

ant1999e

12-07-2011, 04:12 PM

Once again you show your IQ level for the whole board to see.

And your blind support of obama show yours.

Rigs11

12-07-2011, 05:14 PM

And your blind support of obama show yours.

You have still failed to provide a better candidate.all you have done is shown your immaturity with gay comments.isn't that sort of stuff frowned upon by you conservatives?

ant1999e

12-07-2011, 05:29 PM

You have still failed to provide a better candidate.all you have done is shown your immaturity with gay comments.isn't that sort of stuff frowned upon by you conservatives?

A persons.sexual preference makes no difference to me.
There are no worthy republican candidates in the lineup.
Allen West, Colin Powell would be a few honorable candidates.

orinjkrush

12-07-2011, 05:40 PM

as Socrates might say: "define special interest".

Rohirrim

12-07-2011, 06:18 PM

as Socrates might say: "define special interest".

In the context of TR's speech, I think it would be a corporation that can use its immense economic power to buy special influence over government policy geared toward benefitting its own interests, often to the detriment of the public at large.

Bronco_Beerslug

12-07-2011, 06:42 PM

Being "better than the GOP" doesn't amount to much. It's definitely not a justification for voting for someone, especially if they are a lousy candidate who delivers on nothing they promise.
The promise thing is BS and being better than the Right Wing is definitely "justification" for voting someone.

Blart

12-07-2011, 08:36 PM

epicSocialism4tw

12-07-2011, 11:38 PM

Another?

I was unaware that any of them have been memorable.

Pony Boy

12-08-2011, 10:29 AM

Another Great Obama Speech

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mosca

12-08-2011, 10:50 AM

The promise thing is BS and being better than the Right Wing is definitely "justification" for voting someone.
Still falling for the false premise that you only have two "choices". Being better than the corporate-backed Republicans doesn't mean much when you are a corporate backed Democrat. Wasting your time with that vote.

orinjkrush

12-09-2011, 04:02 PM

In the context of TR's speech, I think it would be a corporation that can use its immense economic power to buy special influence over government policy geared toward benefitting its own interests, often to the detriment of the public at large.

i submit that it's not only "corporations", but any "point-of-view" that can establish a special interest.

the tea party is a special interest. christians are. muslims are. young people are. anything short of homo sapiens is.