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Smiling Assassin27
12-06-2011, 08:38 AM
Interesting that Dawk is named as more outspoken than Tim and he's on our team too.

Tim Tebow has become the poster boy for religious devotion in the National Football League, but other stars have largely flown under the religion radar.

The managing editor at Patheos, a website devoted to religious issues, told USA Today that Tebow may not even be the most vocal Christian on the Broncos. "It is odd that there are more outspoken Christians on the Denver Broncos like Brian Dawkins. It is odd that Tebow has become this figure," Patton Dodd told the national newspaper.

Pittsburgh Steelers star Troy Polamalu is most often mentioned by fellow players for his spiritual devotion, according to Dodd, who authored The Tebow Mystique. Polamalu, famous for his long hair and huge hits, actually prays during the action.



http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201112/nfl-star-beats-tim-tebow-most-religious-athlete-football

Kaylore
12-06-2011, 08:46 AM
Yeah I pointed this out to some of the more ardent critics like Tailgate Nut, how we have had, and currently have more vocal Christians than Tebow on the team and found the anger toward those players was borderline non-existent. Curious.

bowtown
12-06-2011, 08:49 AM
Yeah I pointed this out to some of the more ardent critics like Tailgate Nut, how we have had, and currently have more vocal Christians than Tebow on the team and found the anger toward those players was borderline non-existent. Curious.

You are so in love with Spencer Larsen it makes me want to puke.

Smiling Assassin27
12-06-2011, 08:50 AM
I can imagine Jake Plummer politely asking B-Dawk to kindly shut his yapper, had they played together...lol.

cutthemdown
12-06-2011, 08:52 AM
Tebow just under the microscope. How often do the other teams get asked is this QB going to be on your team next yr as the starter? Hardly any outside of Jets, Broncos etc etc. It's a total joke. Ask Tebow football questions and he won't say praise the lord. Ask where he gets his motivation, how he works so hard, how he stays positive and what do you think he is going to say? The whole situation shows how crappy journalism has sunk in the sports world. Bunch of absolute hacks!

footstepsfrom#27
12-06-2011, 08:55 AM
There have always been vocal Christians in sports, but few have had the high profile Tebow has, which is why he engenders the anger he does from a lot of people who like to pretend it's his on-field play they're criticizing, but the radical passion they exhibt towards the guy says otherwise. I think it's just making him a better prepared QB in terms of handling that kind of spot light and public scrutiny at this young an age.

bowtown
12-06-2011, 08:59 AM
I think doing the commercial was a mistake for Teebs.

Rohirrim
12-06-2011, 09:03 AM
Yeah I pointed this out to some of the more ardent critics like Tailgate Nut, how we have had, and currently have more vocal Christians than Tebow on the team and found the anger toward those players was borderline non-existent. Curious.

Some of those who are religious also characterize the issues with Tebow as being ALL due to religion, which is not true. In America, which is something like 80% Christian, for some reason a section of very vocal Christian zealots have convinced themselves, and tried to convince the world, that they are an oppressed minority in America. They believe that somebody (the Left, the government, et al) is out to get them. That minority's paranoia has driven a lot of this bull****.

A lot of people had issues with Tebow being drafted that high, coming from the Urban Meyer system, and doubted that he would transition to the NFL. Those two things got mixed up.

TheReverend
12-06-2011, 09:06 AM
Yeah I pointed this out to some of the more ardent critics like Tailgate Nut, how we have had, and currently have more vocal Christians than Tebow on the team and found the anger toward those players was borderline non-existent. Curious.

Their moms didn't almost abort them though.

Dagmar
12-06-2011, 09:06 AM
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55CrushEm
12-06-2011, 09:09 AM
I can imagine Jake Plummer politely asking B-Dawk to kindly shut his yapper, had they played together...lol.

:rofl:

ludo21
12-06-2011, 09:10 AM
i love all the articles that Tebow brings. Fun to have Broncos news daily ;D

BroncoBeavis
12-06-2011, 09:14 AM
I can imagine Jake Plummer politely asking B-Dawk to kindly shut his yapper, had they played together...lol.

Don't think Jake would've had the sack if it had come to that. :)

Might've bitched about it to the media later. Can't see him getting up in Brian Dawkins' face though.

Broncbow
12-06-2011, 09:14 AM
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Smiling Assassin27
12-06-2011, 09:18 AM
Incidentally, Philip Rivers is a very outspoken Christian as well. Probably less so than Tebow, Polamalu, or Dawkins, but he's all over Catholic media. In fact he made Bleacher Report's 25 most religous athletes list.

vonqkilla
12-06-2011, 09:18 AM
Smh...

We found a planet in the habitable zone, alien life a certainty if not there, some where. Only 600 light years away. In 200 years, based on the growth rate of tech, humans in stasis will be making that trip. 72 degrees avg surface temp, 2.4 times as big.

Amazing.

You think god sent his son there too?

Silly humans....

TailgateNut
12-06-2011, 09:19 AM
Yeah I pointed this out to some of the more ardent critics like Tailgate Nut, how we have had, and currently have more vocal Christians than Tebow on the team and found the anger toward those players was borderline non-existent. Curious.


Might just toss out the notion that my lack of acceptance of Tebow is based solely on his religious beliefs. Hmmmmm!

TailgateNut
12-06-2011, 09:21 AM
Some of those who are religious also characterize the issues with Tebow as being ALL due to religion, which is not true. In America, which is something like 80% Christian, for some reason a section of very vocal Christian zealots have convinced themselves, and tried to convince the world, that they are an oppressed minority in America. They believe that somebody (the Left, the government, et al) is out to get them. That minority's paranoia has driven a lot of this bull****.

A lot of people had issues with Tebow being drafted that high, coming from the Urban Meyer system, and doubted that he would transition to the NFL. Those two things got mixed up.

All this is way to complicated for some of the single cell members of the mane.

BroncoInferno
12-06-2011, 09:21 AM
Some of those who are religious also characterize the issues with Tebow as being ALL due to religion, which is not true. In America, which is something like 80% Christian, for some reason a section of very vocal Christian zealots have convinced themselves, and tried to convince the world, that they are an oppressed minority in America. They believe that somebody (the Left, the government, et al) is out to get them. That minority's paranoia has driven a lot of this bull****.

A lot of people had issues with Tebow being drafted that high, coming from the Urban Meyer system, and doubted that he would transition to the NFL. Those two things got mixed up.

Yep. While it's true that the media has been hyper-critical of Tebow, there is little evidence that this is religiously motivated. I mean, seriously....what is the religious affiliation of Merril Hodge, or Trent Dilfer? Are we supposed to believe all the critics are liberal atheists? Given the religious makeup of the country (around 80% Christian, as you pointed out), it stands to reason that many of those skeptics or "haters" are fellow Christians. There is something more complex at work in the Tebow phenomenon that goes beyond religion.

Smiling Assassin27
12-06-2011, 09:22 AM
Smh...

We found a planet in the habitable zone, alien life a certainty if not there, aomewhere. Only 600 light years away. In 100 years, based on the growth rate of tech, humans in stasis will be making that trip. 72 degrees avg surface temp, 2.4 times as big.

Amazing.

You think god sent his son there too?

Silly humans....

Heh, comletely inane argument and not applicable to Christianity in the least. But thanks for hijacking! :rofl:

55CrushEm
12-06-2011, 09:23 AM
Incidentally, Philip Rivers is a very outspoken Christian as well. Probably less so than Tebow, Polamalu, or Dawkins, but he's all over Catholic media. In fact he made Bleacher Report's 25 most religous athletes list.

Well, he sure swears a lot for being such a devout Christian. Tebow must be very disappointed.....

Smiling Assassin27
12-06-2011, 09:23 AM
All this is way to complicated for some of the single cell members of the mane.

It's not the single cell that's holding them back, it's the single agenda. :giggle:

Smiling Assassin27
12-06-2011, 09:25 AM
Well, he sure swears a lot for being such a devout Christian. Tebow must be very disappointed.....

Yeah, he's admitted as much before. Lucky the church isn't a museum for saints but a hospital for we who just can't get it right..lol.

vonqkilla
12-06-2011, 09:40 AM
Heh, comletely inane argument and not applicable to Christianity in the least. But thanks for hijacking! :rofl:

You're right. Has nothing to do with god...

Smh

Requiem
12-06-2011, 09:41 AM
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Spider
12-06-2011, 09:45 AM
I can imagine Jake Plummer politely asking B-Dawk to kindly shut his yapper, had they played together...lol. Plummer would have , the snake was the real deal with people

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-06-2011, 10:22 AM
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Matthew 6:5-6
5 ďAnd when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Rohirrim
12-06-2011, 10:25 AM
Matthew 6:5-6
5 ďAnd when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

I think that only applies to Catholics. The protestants created a new interpretation. ;D

vonqkilla
12-06-2011, 10:27 AM
Blah bla bla eko, you mean to tell me the bible contradicts itself!!

Shocking!!!!

OT God and jesus are like polar opposites.

All I know is the kids influence is like no other, and for all the fire and brimstone bs, hes a great person. Preach on keep helping othera in need tebow and US too!!!

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-06-2011, 10:33 AM
Blah bla bla eko, you mean to tell me the bible contradicts itself!!

Shocking!!!!

OT God and jesus are like polar opposites.

All I know is the kids influence is like no other, and for all the fire and brimstone bs, hes a great person. Preach on keep helping othera in need tebow and US too!!!

Uhhh, okay.

I just found it interesting, the talk of Tebow's faith being some driving force, the idea that the scripture is how he lives his life... only, that's from scripture, and he's doing what it specifically says NOT to do. Not only does he do it, he finds a very prominent place right along the sideline to Tebow and give thanks.

That's not the Bible contradicting itself. That's Tebow contradicting the Bible.

And I don't even care. I just find it interesting.

BroncoBeavis
12-06-2011, 10:38 AM
Smh...

We found a planet in the habitable zone, alien life a certainty if not there, some where. Only 600 light years away. In 200 years, based on the growth rate of tech, humans in stasis will be making that trip. 72 degrees avg surface temp, 2.4 times as big.

Amazing.

You think god sent his son there too?

Silly humans....

Yes, we're totally on course to fling cryovac'd humans at light speed across the galaxy within the next couple centuries.

Completely unrelated question... have you ever been abducted by aliens?:~ohyah!:

epicSocialism4tw
12-06-2011, 10:42 AM
B-Dawk and Polamalu have always been two of my fave non-Broncos.

Brees is also an outspoken Christian who is involved in FCA.

There are many, many, many, many more including Eddie Royal.

Barry Sanders was a hero of mine growing up. He was one of the really earnest Christian guys.

epicSocialism4tw
12-06-2011, 10:45 AM
Tebow, like Barry Sanders, is an immensely exciting player to watch. Couple that with the fact that he's a clutch machine and that clutch play is viewed as a transcendent ability in its own right...Tebow's play pays off for the fans.

He's everything that you want in a player.

ColoradoDarin
12-06-2011, 12:55 PM
Matthew 6:5-6
5 ďAnd when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Have you any proof that Tebow only prays in public and never in private the same way? Have you any proof that when Tebow prays in public he's only doing for the admiration of others?

God Bless.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-06-2011, 01:04 PM
Have you any proof that Tebow only prays in public and never in private the same way? Have you any proof that when Tebow prays in public he's only doing for the admiration of others?

God Bless.

Just asking a question. Scripture seems to state not to pray in public at all. He does it in public, in a VERY visible place, is fine with cameras coming around him while doing so, and has applauded people "Tebowing," ostensibly encouraging others to break with scripture.

I could give two ****s either way. Just curious what the pious among us felt about him going against scripture. Now I see it's a "can you prove it!??!?!??!?" thing.

And here I thought we were all supposed to have faith.

Miss I.
12-06-2011, 01:08 PM
Matthew 6:5-6
5 ďAnd when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

of for the love of God, you are misinterpreting the text. This was not a literal direction to go hide in a closet to pray. All it was meant to do was teach the people that public displays of religion are not indicators of true faith. True faith is internal and God sees into the heart and knows the difference between those who put on the public face of faith, but are in their hearts faithless and those who are truly strong in the faith. You can be public in faith and you should never hide it in shame, but God will know if it is real faith or just bull****.

Tebow answers honestly when asked. He displays his faith, but is not particularly out there about it, unless he's asked. Yes, the Tebowing thing has caught on, but honestly, I occasionally bow my head in public and pray, though I am not always certain what or who I am praying to. I think the media makes more of Tim's religion than he does most of the time.

At any rate, I respectfully disagree with the limited and very literal interpretation of the text.

Pendejo
12-06-2011, 01:25 PM
Their moms didn't almost abort them though.

You don't know that for sure. There could have been one of those prom night bathroom stall deals going on. Granted that's a wild guess on my part...I just don't think it's fair to throw mother's under the bus until we know the true extent of their efforts.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-06-2011, 01:31 PM
of for the love of God, you are misinterpreting the text. This was not a literal direction to go hide in a closet to pray. All it was meant to do was teach the people that public displays of religion are not indicators of true faith. True faith is internal and God sees into the heart and knows the difference between those who put on the public face of faith, but are in their hearts faithless and those who are truly strong in the faith. You can be public in faith and you should never hide it in shame, but God will know if it is real faith or just bull****.

Tebow answers honestly when asked. He displays his faith, but is not particularly out there about it, unless he's asked. Yes, the Tebowing thing has caught on, but honestly, I occasionally bow my head in public and pray, though I am not always certain what or who I am praying to. I think the media makes more of Tim's religion than he does most of the time.

At any rate, I respectfully disagree with the limited and very literal interpretation of the text.

Thank you for the thoughtful response, Miss I. All I was asking for.

TheReverend
12-06-2011, 01:32 PM
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1. Awesome.

2. ****ing amazing!

3. Already stole it

4. Awesome.

Rolandftw
12-06-2011, 01:41 PM
I dunno why anyone would find it surprising that the majority of players in the league are Christian, when the majority of our country is Christian. If someone has to explain how such a phenomenon occurs, then you're not very smart.

The only time I've ever really had a problem with what he's said, was when he claimed he was too busy praying to pay attention to the defense.

If people find it annoying, don't listen to his interviews. It isn't like he's going to say anything interesting anyways. Other then Hillis, I don't think there's another player that puts as much attention on it as him, though. At this point, it'd probably be weaker for him to stop saying it, then for him to keep saying it. People would perceive it and him negatively.

t-diddy
12-06-2011, 01:46 PM
of for the love of God, you are misinterpreting the text. This was not a literal direction to go hide in a closet to pray. All it was meant to do was teach the people that public displays of religion are not indicators of true faith. True faith is internal and God sees into the heart and knows the difference between those who put on the public face of faith, but are in their hearts faithless and those who are truly strong in the faith. You can be public in faith and you should never hide it in shame, but God will know if it is real faith or just bull****.

Tebow answers honestly when asked. He displays his faith, but is not particularly out there about it, unless he's asked. Yes, the Tebowing thing has caught on, but honestly, I occasionally bow my head in public and pray, though I am not always certain what or who I am praying to. I think the media makes more of Tim's religion than he does most of the time.

At any rate, I respectfully disagree with the limited and very literal interpretation of the text.

Rep for the explanation. Well done.

bowtown
12-06-2011, 01:46 PM
I dunno why anyone would find it surprising that the majority of players in the league are Christian, when the majority of our country is Christian. If someone has to explain how such a phenomenon occurs, then you're not very smart.

The only time I've ever really had a problem with what he's said, was when he claimed he was too busy praying to pay attention to the defense.

If people find it annoying, don't listen to his interviews. It isn't like he's going to say anything interesting anyways. Other then Hillis, I don't think there's another player that puts as much attention on it as him, though. At this point, it'd probably be weaker for him to stop saying it, then for him to keep saying it. People would perceive it and him negatively.

You don't actually believe this, do you? You going to make me pull up the clips?

Rolandftw
12-06-2011, 01:56 PM
Ray Lewis does it a lot too. Honestly, haven't heard Rivers or Rodgers, talk about it unless they're asked. Not even saying there's anything right or wrong about either method.. just pointing out a fact.

Kurt Warner caught hell for talking about it as often as he did, and even he thinks Tebow takes it too far.