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maher_tyler
12-05-2011, 07:26 PM
I agree with Boise St coach on this. Something needs to change. How can they allow two teams from the same conference play in the BCS Championship game? How is a 1 loss team in Boise St playing an unranked Arizona St team with 6 loses??

"Petersen said he would like to see a plus-one implemented in college football to give the top four teams in college football a chance at a national championship. He suggested using a committee similar to what is used in determining the teams that make the NCAA basketball tournament."

I love this idea. It's the only way to find a true champion.

The rest of the article can be found here:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7320125/chris-petersen-boise-state-broncos-everyone-tired-bcs

Tankgunner95
12-05-2011, 07:29 PM
What about WV and VT? I believe Boise would take both of them!

gyldenlove
12-05-2011, 07:34 PM
What about WV and VT? I believe Boise would take both of them!

They took out VT last year.

BroncoBen
12-05-2011, 07:38 PM
There should be a 4 team playoff.. it crazy LSU and Alabama don't play until January 9th for the national championship.

maher_tyler
12-05-2011, 07:40 PM
I'm not a Boise fan but they're getting screwed over. Playing a 6-6 team who fired their coach is like a slap in the face.

maher_tyler
12-05-2011, 07:42 PM
There should be a 4 team playoff.. it crazy LSU and Alabama don't play until January 9th for the national championship.

Over a month without playing a game of football, it's stupid!

Armchair Bronco
12-05-2011, 07:43 PM
I think we need some kind of Congressional investigation.

Maybe Pelosi and Reed can get something going!

Inkana7
12-05-2011, 07:45 PM
Yeah, this year's BCS selections are the most clear signs of money being the only driving force behind the selections. Michigan and VT, really?

Dagmar
12-05-2011, 07:52 PM
A month between games and no playoff is just retarded.

missingnumber7
12-05-2011, 07:54 PM
So instead of bitching about it just stop watching and start watching the division that decides a real champion. I haven't watched FBS football, unless NDSU was beating a FBS team, in 3 years.

StugotsIII
12-05-2011, 07:57 PM
They are moving towards 4 super conferences with the winners of the conferences entering a final 4….not a guess.

Garcia Bronco
12-05-2011, 08:07 PM
LOL.

epicSocialism4tw
12-05-2011, 08:08 PM
I have just about lost interest in college football because they choose the winners and losers. Its a terrible system that makes a mockery out of competition.

Between that and the fact that they don't pay the players...I'm just about done.

Dagmar
12-05-2011, 08:12 PM
So instead of b****ing about it just stop watching and start watching the division that decides a real champion. I haven't watched FBS football, unless NDSU was beating a FBS team, in 3 years.

So much anger...

DBroncos4life
12-05-2011, 08:20 PM
They are moving towards 4 super conferences with the winners of the conferences entering a final 4….not a guess.

No they are not.

Tim
12-05-2011, 08:20 PM
If only boise state made that 37 yard field goal against TCU... The BCS sucks.

BroncoBen
12-05-2011, 08:22 PM
There needs to be a 4 team playoff, waiting till January 9th to play is ridiculous.

Rolandftw
12-05-2011, 08:26 PM
Imagine how pissed off Boise State would be if they ended up making that kick, and still were only #3 in the polls. Maybe even #4 or #5.

There's no reason why they can't have a four or six team playoff really.

Rest of the teams can still play their meaningless bowl games, or have an nit version of college football (teams ranked 7-12 having their own tournament or whatever).

Football games would mean more too.

Wes Mantooth
12-05-2011, 08:34 PM
I kinda like it the way it is. The regular season is the playoff. Only sport anywhere that I know of that does this. Plus, every week is a playoff. We talk about it all the time because the system has flaws, but talk nonetheless.

RhymesayersDU
12-05-2011, 08:41 PM
I kinda like it the way it is. The regular season is the playoff. Only sport anywhere that I know of that does this. Plus, every week is a playoff. We talk about it all the time because the system has flaws, but talk nonetheless.

Oh, so Alabama was knocked out in their playoff game which they lost. I missed reading about that in the paper.

epicSocialism4tw
12-05-2011, 08:42 PM
Oh, so Alabama was knocked out in their playoff game which they lost. I missed reading about that in the paper.

Absolutely.

Archer81
12-05-2011, 09:03 PM
If only boise state made that 37 yard field goal against TCU... The BCS sucks.


They still would not be playing in a National Championship.


:Broncos:

Inkana7
12-05-2011, 09:04 PM
They still would not be playing in a National Championship.


:Broncos:

And that's why the BCS needs to be BURNED TO THE GROUND IN A BLOOD PURGE

Archer81
12-05-2011, 09:07 PM
And that's why the BCS needs to be BURNED TO THE GROUND IN A BLOOD PURGE


I dont disagree. 12 team playoff. Takes a month. NC in mid to late January. Best team wins.

:Broncos:

epicSocialism4tw
12-05-2011, 09:08 PM
I dont disagree. 12 team playoff. Takes a month. NC in mid to late January. Best team wins.

:Broncos:

+1

I'd even go 16 teams.

Wes Mantooth
12-05-2011, 09:15 PM
+1

I'd even go 16 teams.

Sounds unfair to team #17. Where do you draw the line?

Also, do you really expect fans to travel to one month worth of playoff games? If you really want to have a month of playoffs, they would most likely need to occur in December. Coincidentally, most college finals are during this period.

If everyone is so pissed off at the current system, why the hell do we watch? The only way this will change is if people quit going to bowl games and quit watching them on TV.

Wes Mantooth
12-05-2011, 09:16 PM
Oh, so Alabama was knocked out in their playoff game which they lost. I missed reading about that in the paper.

Who should play in their place?

epicSocialism4tw
12-05-2011, 09:18 PM
Sounds unfair to team #17. Where do you draw the line?

Also, do you really expect fans to travel to one month worth of playoff games? If you really want to have a month of playoffs, they would most likely need to occur in December. Coincidentally, most college finals are during this period.

If everyone is so pissed off at the current system, why the hell do we watch? The only way this will change is if people quit going to bowl games and quit watching them on TV.

Drawing a line at #16 is much less impactful than drawing one at two, or excluding a BCS #7 team from the BCS so that you can draw big money to the event.

The NCAA has become a corrupt organization. Time to move on.

Popps
12-05-2011, 09:19 PM
No wonder I don't watch a lot of college ball. Besides being corrupt and often disturbing, they can't even figure out a way to adequately allow for a champion to be named.

Even worse, this tired ****ing conversation has been clogging sports radio for years.

Wes Mantooth
12-05-2011, 09:22 PM
No wonder I don't watch a lot of college ball. Besides being corrupt and often disturbing, they can't even figure out a way to adequately allow for a champion to be named.

Even worse, this tired ****ing conversation has been clogging sports radio for years.

yet it is feeding the masses. Only way this change is to stop going and supporting your teams, which will never happen. Some type of boycott would need to take place.

I do think its interesting however that there are more super-conferences which mean more conference championships. This will setup nicely for a future playoff system if each conference keeps it up.

RhymesayersDU
12-05-2011, 09:23 PM
Who should play in their place?

I have no idea. I just think the argument of "the entire season is a playoff" is false.

Wes Mantooth
12-05-2011, 09:24 PM
Drawing a line at #16 is much less impactful than drawing one at two, or excluding a BCS #7 team from the BCS so that you can draw big money to the event.

The NCAA has become a corrupt organization. Time to move on.

logistically, how do you do this? I have friends that are Oregon U fanatics. They are not going to the Rose bowl because they went to the national championship, LSU game this year and Rose bowl two years ago. Imagine the playoff system and bringing your fans. How would it happen?

epicSocialism4tw
12-05-2011, 09:37 PM
logistically, how do you do this? I have friends that are Oregon U fanatics. They are not going to the Rose bowl because they went to the national championship, LSU game this year and Rose bowl two years ago. Imagine the playoff system and bringing your fans. How would it happen?

Conference winners get home games.

Re-orient the conferences according to region.

StugotsIII
12-05-2011, 09:58 PM
No they are not.

It will happen within 5 years…


SEC already up to 14 teams…


There will be 4 16 team super conferences…


It's happening...

DBroncos4life
12-05-2011, 10:03 PM
It will happen within 5 years…


SEC already up to 14 teams…


There will be 4 16 team super conferences…


It's happening...

Didn't you say Texas was going to the Big 10 as well? Its not happening.

StugotsIII
12-05-2011, 11:18 PM
Didn't you say Texas was going to the Big 10 as well? Its not happening.

Nope...

SonOfLe-loLang
12-05-2011, 11:33 PM
The system is obviously ****ed...however....I'd like to watch that rematch

DBroncos4life
12-05-2011, 11:51 PM
Nope...

Bull **** you didn't post 48 in the college football thread. You claimed they would bolt to the B10 or go independent. Neither are happening.

Wes Mantooth
12-06-2011, 12:02 AM
Didn't you say Texas was going to the Big 10 as well? Its not happening.

Good point. If you hate the systems, hate the teams that are stopping moves to superconferences. Texas is holding up the show!

ol#7
12-06-2011, 12:17 AM
I stopped watching/caring about college football when Nebraska leaped over CU (who hung their worse loss ever on them) to play Miami in the BSC. Havent been back except to follow along with the headlines. In a decade, what has improved? You still dont even have to win your conference to play in the 'title game' and the rankings are meaningless for the rest of the matchups.

Dont see how anyone can defend this travesty. Still love College football but refuse to watch it under this system. Frees up my Saturdays though.

v2micca
12-06-2011, 05:28 AM
Who should play in their place?



That is kind of how I feel. I really don't like the BCS. I don't care for the selection process and would love an 8 team play off. I also don't really care that much for the SEC and their fan base's smug sense of superiority. But the fact remains, after watching the college season unfold, I'm convinced that Alabama is the only team that would be able to keep it competitive in the fourth quarter against LSU. The Tigers would straight up Sandusky any other team.

tsiguy96
12-06-2011, 05:33 AM
8 team playoff, sorry to the #9 team and beyond but there is just too many teams to make EVERYONE happy, and not enough time to play that many playoff games.

tsiguy96
12-06-2011, 05:55 AM
That is kind of how I feel. I really don't like the BCS. I don't care for the selection process and would love an 8 team play off. I also don't really care that much for the SEC and their fan base's smug sense of superiority. But the fact remains, after watching the college season unfold, I'm convinced that Alabama is the only team that would be able to keep it competitive in the fourth quarter against LSU. The Tigers would straight up Sandusky any other team.

no other top team is getting the opportunity to even try, regardless of passing the visual test before.

v2micca
12-06-2011, 06:12 AM
no other top team is getting the opportunity to even try, regardless of passing the visual test before.

Yep, it sucks. No doubt about it. And I am all for changing it in the future. But if we are only allowed to choose one team to face LSU, I honestly can't argue that anyone other than Alabama deserves that opportunity. They steamrolled every opponent they faced this year but the Tigers. The Tigers steamrolled every opponent they faced this year but the Crimson Tide. It is clearly the match-up between the two best teams in College Football this year.

RhymesayersDU
12-06-2011, 06:19 AM
That is kind of how I feel. I really don't like the BCS. I don't care for the selection process and would love an 8 team play off. I also don't really care that much for the SEC and their fan base's smug sense of superiority. But the fact remains, after watching the college season unfold, I'm convinced that Alabama is the only team that would be able to keep it competitive in the fourth quarter against LSU. The Tigers would straight up Sandusky any other team.

Props for using "Sandusky" as a verb.

v2micca
12-06-2011, 06:19 AM
8 team playoff, sorry to the #9 team and beyond but there is just too many teams to make EVERYONE happy, and not enough time to play that many playoff games.

My dream scenario is 8 conferences with a 10 game regular season followed by a conference championship between the top two teams in the conference. Each conference champion gets a BSC bid to an 8 team tournament.

Yes, you would still have issues with weaker or top heavy conferences being unbalanced. But, I feel it would still be a huge improvement over the current set-up.

tsiguy96
12-06-2011, 06:23 AM
My dream scenario is 8 conferences with a 10 game regular season followed by a conference championship between the top two teams in the conference. Each conference champion gets a BSC bid to an 8 team tournament.

Yes, you would still have issues with weaker or top heavy conferences being unbalanced. But, I feel it would still be a huge improvement over the current set-up.

i dont like that because what if the NFL were only the division winners and no one else? a lot of great teams in strong divisions would be left out jsut because they arent division champs.

v2micca
12-06-2011, 06:33 AM
i dont like that because what if the NFL were only the division winners and no one else? a lot of great teams in strong divisions would be left out jsut because they arent division champs.

Yep, no system is perfect. You can let the BCS determine the top 8 teams and run into the same problem we have now with complaints about the ranking system determining who gets a shot every year. Or you can have a Conference based play-off system, in which case you have the same problem that the NFL and MLB sometimes run into when divisions become unbalanced.

tsiguy96
12-06-2011, 06:39 AM
Yep, no system is perfect. You can let the BCS determine the top 8 teams and run into the same problem we have now with complaints about the ranking system determining who gets a shot every year. Or you can have a Conference based play-off system, in which case you have the same problem that the NFL and MLB sometimes run into when divisions become unbalanced.

more likely to be accurate by letting BCS determine top 8 or 10 then taking conference winners. nfl is the most fair sport of any, half the playoff teams are new every single year, it would be wise to replicate that.

DrFate
12-06-2011, 06:40 AM
College football is the only sport, at an level, where the team playing the best at the end of the year isn't the champion.

Look at the recent evidence -

NFL last year - Packers were a 6 seed
MLB this year - Cards barely made the playoffs

The argument 'every game matters' holds absolutely no water, when we see a rematch. Did Alabama NOT lose that first game? Do all the games matter EXCEPT that one?

Every other sport essentially has 2 seasons - one to determine who makes the playoffs and seeding, and a second, elimination season.

v2micca
12-06-2011, 06:53 AM
College football is the only sport, at an level, where the team playing the best at the end of the year isn't the champion.




Are you arguing this point in general, or specifically to this season? Because, as far as this season is concerned, I can't argue that anyone was playing better than LSU and Alabama during the final 3 weeks of this year.

yerner
12-06-2011, 06:59 AM
I like how Alabama isn't even their own league champion and got to just sit home while LSU had to win last Saturday to play for the title. It's a big waste of time.

bfoflcommish
12-06-2011, 07:03 AM
Sounds unfair to team #17. Where do you draw the line?

Also, do you really expect fans to travel to one month worth of playoff games? If you really want to have a month of playoffs, they would most likely need to occur in December. Coincidentally, most college finals are during this period.

If everyone is so pissed off at the current system, why the hell do we watch? The only way this will change is if people quit going to bowl games and quit watching them on TV.


I know.... if only there were some way to have fans travel for over a month to watch playoff games and still be profitable for the schools





































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naw, a playoff would never work.

BroncoBeavis
12-06-2011, 07:58 AM
NCAA Div 1 FCS selects 20 teams. Up until last year I think it was 16. Takes 5 weekends, although you could cut a week off going to 16 teams, like it used to be.

Can't buy the whole 'school schedule' argument. NCAA already runs playoffs at every football level other than BCS.

My Montana State bobcats will be travelling to #1 Sam Houston state in Texas this Saturday. Montana is hosting Northern Iowa.

Anyway, imagine having 15 or so bowl games that mattered. I don't understand why it's so difficult.

DrFate
12-06-2011, 08:24 AM
Are you arguing this point in general, or specifically to this season? Because, as far as this season is concerned, I can't argue that anyone was playing better than LSU and Alabama during the final 3 weeks of this year.

The argument is a general one. The concept of 'every game matters' is nonsensical, since LSU beating Alabama obviously didn't matter.

I find OSU's dominant performance against OU far more impressive than Alabama sitting at home during the SEC championship.

Rohirrim
12-06-2011, 08:50 AM
Someday, there will be playoffs. It's inevitable. But, just like any change, there are those who are mired in the past and refuse to accept change. You just keep pushing and pushing until the dam breaks and the old guard gets swept away.

AlphaSeirra
12-06-2011, 08:54 AM
The argument is a general one. The concept of 'every game matters' is nonsensical, since LSU beating Alabama obviously didn't matter.

I find OSU's dominant performance against OU far more impressive than Alabama sitting at home during the SEC championship.

Sorry, but in the BCS formula, ONLY the final #1 and #2 Rankings matter.
Not what you were doing while your own conference championship was being played.

The BCS wasn't set up to guarantee that ALL of the bowls would be fairly arranged.
It was set up to put the #1 and #2 teams in a BCS-NC game against each other.
(they've done that again this year imo)

But I will agree that with the #5 BCS ranking, BS-U probably should be in some BCS bowl.
However, for the bowls not containing the #1 & #2 teams, money is going to continue to be the key.
Put BS-U in the Orange Bowl and how many tickets does the bowl sell to BS-U fans?
While 6-6 UF vs 6-6 tOSU in the Gator Bowl will be a quick and total SELL-OUT.

SEC teams get chit for playing a couple of early games against teams like SMs or Ohio, as sort of like preseason patsy teams.

While teams like Houston and BS-U play a season long schedule of those type of patsy teams with only a couple of opponents
that are even in the Top 25.

The BCS could be replaced by an NCAA Playoff with however many teams, 4-8-12-16.
Until that's done, live with getting #1 & #2 in the NC game.
The rest of the bowl games are going to keep on making $$$ decisions to benefit themselves.

PS-1
I'd have liked to see LSU play OkSt, but OkSt is not the #2 team imo, so to bad for what I might like to see.
(same for Peterson)

PS-2
If every other division of football, from Pee-Wee to the NFL can schedule a playoff, then D-1 Football could do so if they wanted to.

D2 does it, D-3 does it, do they not go to school or have finals?
I have been advocating for a D-1 NCAA Playoff since 1990 on the sports boards.

Every other college sport, mens and womens, at ever level of play, has NCAA sponsored PLAYOFFS. :pimp:

elsid13
12-06-2011, 08:55 AM
College football is the only sport, at an level, where the team playing the best at the end of the year isn't the champion.

Look at the recent evidence -

NFL last year - Packers were a 6 seed
MLB this year - Cards barely made the playoffs

The argument 'every game matters' holds absolutely no water, when we see a rematch. Did Alabama NOT lose that first game? Do all the games matter EXCEPT that one?

Every other sport essentially has 2 seasons - one to determine who makes the playoffs and seeding, and a second, elimination season.

That not true, every NCAA Football division expect DIV-I uses a 16 team playoff system, and it highly entertaining. And the playoff TV revenue would dwarf the bowl system.

Kid A
12-06-2011, 09:02 AM
College football is the only sport, at an level, where the team playing the best at the end of the year isn't the champion.

The closest equivalent would be how European soccer awards league champions (the team with the best record at the end of the year). They do have other tournaments throughout the year, but there's no playoff or title game played for the title of league champion. Winning games early and winning games late count equally, unlike a playoff.

College football tries to have it both ways: title team must have one of the two best regular season win-loss records (in a major conference). But then they tack on a sudden death title games.

BroncoBeavis
12-06-2011, 09:18 AM
I like how Alabama isn't even their own league champion and got to just sit home while LSU had to win last Saturday to play for the title. It's a big waste of time.

I was so pulling for Georgia to blow this whole thing up.

Crushaholic
12-06-2011, 10:09 AM
They don't need a playoff, but the BCS DOES need some tweaking. If there is a question of two teams deserving to play in the championship game, the tie should go to the team in a different conference. This year is the perfect example, Oklahoma State was screwed out of the national title game, even after decimating a good Oklahoma team. We've seen the LSU-Alabama game already, this year. A new matchup (LSU vs. Oklahoma State) would have been much better...

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-06-2011, 10:12 AM
FCS football has a playoff, and it's exceptional.

BTW, Montana hosts Northern Iowa in the quarterfinals this Friday, prime time, on ESPN. You know, if you want some playoff football, where a TRUE champion is crowned.

GO GRIZ.

v2micca
12-06-2011, 10:16 AM
A new matchup (LSU vs. Oklahoma State) would have been much better...


I disagree. LSU vs Oklahoma State would have been a Snuff Film broadcast on National Television. My Brother has several LSU fans for friends and they were all begging the BCS to feed them Oklahoma State.

I generally don't like the BCS. But I can't argue that they didn't pick the one team that actually has a chance to beat LSU in the Title Game.

Wes Mantooth
12-06-2011, 11:07 AM
I know.... if only there were some way to have fans travel for over a month to watch playoff games and still be profitable for the schools





































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naw, a playoff would never work.

Logistical Differences:
1. Round of 64 and 32 are played in the same gym
2. Two days separate each round. Can't do that in football.
3. you are talking about 10-14k people. Football is 60 to 100k. (you don't want empty seats to make this work).

Possible ways to make playoff system work.
1. Someone always plays preliminary rounds at home (not neutral) based on record maybe? Fan base is probably local. Traveling team would bring their normal fan base of 5 to 10k fans.

2. Complete playoff before bowl games kick off. We will not see many college games for another several weeks. Use this void to implement the playoff system.

3. Let losers of playoff system still jump into a bowl game up to maybe the semifinals. Once you are in the semi-finals, use the existing BCS bowls as the "final 4" and then the championship. Again, it will be difficult to get the fan base to mobilize two weeks in a row, but at least you have the sponsorship that is so important.

Wes Mantooth
12-06-2011, 11:15 AM
NCAA Div 1 FCS selects 20 teams. Up until last year I think it was 16. Takes 5 weekends, although you could cut a week off going to 16 teams, like it used to be.

Can't buy the whole 'school schedule' argument. NCAA already runs playoffs at every football level other than BCS.

My Montana State bobcats will be travelling to #1 Sam Houston state in Texas this Saturday. Montana is hosting Northern Iowa.

Anyway, imagine having 15 or so bowl games that mattered. I don't understand why it's so difficult.

Beavis, how many people attend other levels compared to Division 1. It's money that matters here and there is too much revenue now to disrupt it.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-06-2011, 11:16 AM
Beavis, how many people attend other levels compared to Division 1. It's money that matters here and there is too much revenue now to disrupt it.

Montana will sell out its 32k person stadium Friday night. They'll do it easily.

Wes Mantooth
12-06-2011, 11:23 AM
Montana will sell out its 32k person stadium Friday night. They'll do it easily.

will they do that 4 weeks in a row? Will they travel across the country?

ludo21
12-06-2011, 11:26 AM
students have finals

you guys are dumb

BroncoBen
12-06-2011, 11:26 AM
I was so pulling for Georgia to blow this whole thing up.

Even before the game the talk was if Georgia won, the worse that was going to happen to LSU was dropping to #2.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-06-2011, 11:27 AM
will they do that 4 weeks in a row? Will they travel across the country?

Yes.

And yes.

DrFate
12-06-2011, 11:45 AM
That not true, every NCAA Football division expect DIV-I uses a 16 team playoff system, and it highly entertaining. And the playoff TV revenue would dwarf the bowl system.

I was not entirely clear - DIV1 football (or whatever they call it now) is the only one exception.

The success of the playoff season at the other NCAA football levels proves every argument against the playoff is a farce.

OEII
12-06-2011, 11:46 AM
I agree with Boise St coach on this. Something needs to change. How can they allow two teams from the same conference play in the BCS Championship game? How is a 1 loss team in Boise St playing an unranked Arizona St team with 6 loses??

"Petersen said he would like to see a plus-one implemented in college football to give the top four teams in college football a chance at a national championship. He suggested using a committee similar to what is used in determining the teams that make the NCAA basketball tournament."

I love this idea. It's the only way to find a true champion.

The rest of the article can be found here:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7320125/chris-petersen-boise-state-broncos-everyone-tired-bcs

The post season of college football makes its not even a sport. College footall is an exhibition not a competition. Teams spend all season trying to impress polls, and garnering "style" points. Its no different than figure skaters trying to impress a panel of judges. I'm sure much of my disinterest in the college game comes from being born and raised in pro-town, but I don't see how college football fans can get into it. Its obviously rigged for TV dollars. "national champions" are annointed by revenue dollars and not on the field. Its a joke really.

DrFate
12-06-2011, 11:47 AM
I disagree. LSU vs Oklahoma State would have been a Snuff Film broadcast on National Television.

Prove it - oh that's right, we can't.

Alabama played LSU, they lost. They didn't even get to their conference championship game.

Let's see another game.

DBroncos4life
12-06-2011, 02:06 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7323183/sources-big-east-announce-boise-state-four-others-joining-conference

Boise State to the Big East. I don't know how this is possible, given the fact that I keep getting told we are going to a 4 16 team super conferences. :rofl:

elsid13
12-06-2011, 02:55 PM
will they do that 4 weeks in a row? Will they travel across the country?

The DIV-IA school sell out all the time in the playoff and they travel to the opponents field as well. Between the TV revenues and the additional home games, the playoff schools and their conferences would be making more money then the current bowl systems.

Majik
12-06-2011, 03:07 PM
Even before the game the talk was if Georgia won, the worse that was going to happen to LSU was dropping to #2.

This is true and would have been fantastic. Can you imagine the National Championship game being played between two teams who didn't even win their conference? :rofl:

BroncoBeavis
12-06-2011, 03:09 PM
Just to make a distinction... FCS is still Division 1. They're only separated as far as football goes.

And I'm not sure about the argument that (for instance) the Sugar Bowl in New Orleans, featuring Michigan and Virginia Tech is going to sell out better than if the winner of that game got to continue on to fight for the national title.

Not sure how making the game irrelevant to the title makes it easier to sell tickets.

BroncoBeavis
12-06-2011, 03:10 PM
This is true and would have been fantastic. Can you imagine the National Championship game being played between two teams who didn't even win their conference? :rofl:

That's what I meant by the BCS blowing up. I'm cheering for something so absurd like that to happen that everyone decides there's no point going on with it.

Garcia Bronco
12-06-2011, 04:33 PM
Virginia Tech is just as deserving of a none NC BCS game as anyone else. Just as deserving as BSU or say KSU. The purpose of the BCS is to matchup 1 and 2 for a title game. That's it.

BroncoMan4ever
12-06-2011, 04:48 PM
the best way to find a champion is a playoff system. ditch the rankings bull****, and the coach and media votes and have a ****ing playoff. top team from each conference makes the playoffs automatically and add in a few wild card scenarios of the best records amongst the 2nd place in the division teams.

if the NCAA is truly upset at potential lost funds from no longer having the sponsored Bowl games, simply make the conference championship games sponsored games.

this BCS bull**** is why i am not a college football fan. i lose interest in it when the rankings and votes come into play about establishing a champion more than play on the field does. also the BCS favors SEC and Pac 10(now Pac 12) schools.

oubronco
12-06-2011, 04:51 PM
Like alot of others I will be doing something else besides watching the BS championship game

Garcia Bronco
12-06-2011, 04:56 PM
the best way to find a champion is a playoff system. ditch the rankings bull****, and the coach and media votes and have a ****ing playoff. top team from each conference makes the playoffs automatically and add in a few wild card scenarios of the best records amongst the 2nd place in the division teams.

if the NCAA is truly upset at potential lost funds from no longer having the sponsored Bowl games, simply make the conference championship games sponsored games.

this BCS bull**** is why i am not a college football fan. i lose interest in it when the rankings and votes come into play about establishing a champion more than play on the field does. also the BCS favors SEC and Pac 10(now Pac 12) schools.

Conference Championships are already sponsered and the money goes to the respective conference. The AP Poll is no longer a part of the formula. In fact, I don't even know why they publish it anymore.

The reality is that a playoff at the BCS level destroys the other bowls defeating revenue from tourism and monies for conferences and universites, and localities. Until you solve that, its pissing in the wind.

Arkie
12-06-2011, 05:56 PM
LSU is only favored by a point. This time Alabama will win. They are too good to have this much bulletin board material saying they don't belong.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
12-08-2011, 07:02 AM
the best way to find a champion is a playoff system. ditch the rankings bull****, and the coach and media votes and have a ****ing playoff. top team from each conference makes the playoffs automatically and add in a few wild card scenarios of the best records amongst the 2nd place in the division teams.

if the NCAA is truly upset at potential lost funds from no longer having the sponsored Bowl games, simply make the conference championship games sponsored games.

this BCS bull**** is why i am not a college football fan. i lose interest in it when the rankings and votes come into play about establishing a champion more than play on the field does. also the BCS favors SEC and Pac 10(now Pac 12) schools.

This.

http://dailydickpunch.com/2011/12/08/friday-night-lights-college-playoffs-return-to-montana/