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epicSocialism4tw
12-04-2011, 10:47 PM
"I've definitely seen that a couple times from No. 15," said Vikings receiver Percy Harvin​, a former Tebow teammate at the University of Florida. "When I hear all those ESPN commentators say, 'He can't do this,' I laugh. After the game, I whispered in his ear, 'Let 'em keep hating. Keep 'em hating on you.' "

Has he clinched the right to become their indisputable quarterback of the future?

"Most definitely he should be," said Broncos defensive tackle Marcus Thomas, who also was Tebow's teammate at Florida. "You know I've always been a Tebow man. He's always been going through this where people didn't believe in him. I was criticizing him his freshman year in college."

Wait a minute. Tebow was getting knocked by his fellow Gators?

"Everybody was," Thomas said. "But he always proved us wrong. It was the way he threw. We had Chris Leak and Tebow would come in throwing the way he throws. We'd be like, 'Oh, man, he can't do this.' But everything about him is a winner. Ever since his freshman year, we all knew he was the real deal. He proved us all wrong."

Read more: Broncos, Tim Tebow rally to beat Vikings 35-32; now tied atop AFC West - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_19469264#ixzz1fdkNq7RY

SoCalBronco
12-04-2011, 10:52 PM
If we could get Harvin somehow and put him in there with Thomas and Decker that would be sick. He'd be a big threat to break one even on bubble screens from Tebow. Get him involved on the shovel options too off motion. I bet he'd look great in O&B streaking down the field from the slot on those shotgun PA option fakes. He's done it all before.

enjolras
12-04-2011, 10:58 PM
If we could get Harvin somehow and put him in there with Thomas and Decker that would be sick. He'd be a big threat to break one even on bubble screens from Tebow. Get him involved on the shovel options too off motion. I bet he'd look great in O&B streaking down the field from the slot on those shotgun PA option fakes.

A big time deep threat coupled with Decker underneath and Bey Bey on the other side? That'd be absolutely sick...

SimonFletcher73
12-04-2011, 11:00 PM
Harvin isn't a free agent until 2014.

IHaveALight
12-04-2011, 11:17 PM
"I mean, the dude lit us up," Vikings star defensive end Jared Allen said. "I would have bet my paycheck that he would not have beat us passing the ball. Hats off to him. He's a competitor."

Read more: Broncos, Tim Tebow rally to beat Vikings 35-32; now tied atop AFC West - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_19469264#ixzz1fdsBfIkJ
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myMind
12-04-2011, 11:20 PM
" After the game, I whispered in his ear, 'Let 'em keep hating. Keep 'em hating on you."

-Harvin

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24champ
12-04-2011, 11:24 PM
If we could get Harvin somehow and put him in there with Thomas and Decker that would be sick. He'd be a big threat to break one even on bubble screens from Tebow. Get him involved on the shovel options too off motion. I bet he'd look great in O&B streaking down the field from the slot on those shotgun PA option fakes. He's done it all before.

I'd prefer if the Broncos used the draft to build around Von Miller but I do like speedsters Jeffrey Demps and Joe Adams. They can help the offense.

Agamemnon
12-04-2011, 11:28 PM
If we could get Harvin somehow and put him in there with Thomas and Decker that would be sick. He'd be a big threat to break one even on bubble screens from Tebow. Get him involved on the shovel options too off motion. I bet he'd look great in O&B streaking down the field from the slot on those shotgun PA option fakes. He's done it all before.

How exactly are we going to get Harvin? Without trading way too much for him that is? Dude is a young explosive receiver who could possibly top 1000 yards receiving on a team that has seriously struggled at QB all year. Why would Minnesota let him go?

epicSocialism4tw
12-04-2011, 11:29 PM
I'd prefer if the Broncos used the draft to build around Von Miller but I do like speedsters Jeffrey Demps and Joe Adams. They can help the offense.

Felix Jones might be a possibility. That dude might be a good option for Denver.

mkporter
12-04-2011, 11:48 PM
If we could get Harvin somehow and put him in there with Thomas and Decker that would be sick. He'd be a big threat to break one even on bubble screens from Tebow. Get him involved on the shovel options too off motion. I bet he'd look great in O&B streaking down the field from the slot on those shotgun PA option fakes. He's done it all before.

Harvin would be awesome to have in this offense. Maybe in a couple years when he is a free agent. I remember rumblings about the Vikings looking to trade him because they were frustrated with how often he was off the field, but I can't imagine they are looking to move him now that his migraine issues are under control.

cutthemdown
12-04-2011, 11:49 PM
Harvin not going anywhere. But we can still look for WR that can motion into backfield and play like he does.

SoCalBronco
12-05-2011, 12:00 AM
How exactly are we going to get Harvin? Without trading way too much for him that is? Dude is a young explosive receiver who could possibly top 1000 yards receiving on a team that has seriously struggled at QB all year. Why would Minnesota let him go?

I know its not feasible, that's why I said "somehow". I was just thinking of the possibilities if we got him. I do agree with 24 that the draft is the best way to go, considering that in all likelihood Bowlen is going to take advantage of the final pre-cap floor year, so expect to be 25m under...again.

The question will be how to amass selections. I think they'll dangle some guys out again to pick up a couple more picks. Obviously, there are needs on both sides of the ball that need to be filled.

epicSocialism4tw
12-05-2011, 12:04 AM
Last season, Correll Buckhalter was very successful with Tebow.

The Broncos need to replace him with a similar player. That much is evident. Throwing screens to Lance Ball only gets you as many yards as there are in front of him. He's not going to make plays with his legs. Denver needs a player who catches a short pass and not only exploits the space, but is killer out there. A player like that will devastate the defense both in terms of production and in terms of the psychological toll they take with repeated big gains.

Agamemnon
12-05-2011, 12:05 AM
Harvin not going anywhere. But we can still look for WR that can motion into backfield and play like he does.

Ryan Broyles.

epicSocialism4tw
12-05-2011, 12:07 AM
Ryan Broyles.

Ah yes.

Broyles is an ankle-breaker. He'll drop in the draft due to his coming off of a serious injury.

Agamemnon
12-05-2011, 12:07 AM
Last season, Correll Buckhalter was very successful with Tebow.

The Broncos need to replace him with a similar player. That much is evident. Throwing screens to Lance Ball only gets you as many yards as there are in front of him. He's not going to make plays with his legs. Denver needs a player who catches a short pass and not only exploits the space, but is killer out there. A player like that will devastate the defense both in terms of production and in terms of the psychological toll they take with repeated big gains.

So Moreno with speed, agility, and toughness? Ha!

Agamemnon
12-05-2011, 12:13 AM
Ah yes.

Broyles is an ankle-breaker. He'll drop in the draft due to his coming off of a serious injury.

He's looked fine post-injury so I don't see that being much of an issue. I think he'll go in the 2nd. If he's still there when our 2nd round pick comes around we'd be stupid not to grab him.

epicSocialism4tw
12-05-2011, 12:15 AM
More Harvin:

"He's a winner," said Harvin, who scored twice for Minnesota. "From all the things you hear about, you may think it's too much. That's what he is. You can see team after team he goes to, a lot of people say the same thing. You've got to believe the guy, or at least believe his teammates. He's a great leader."

SimonFletcher73
12-05-2011, 12:50 AM
Not that big of a fan, but Reggie Bush would be the perfect fit for an offense like ours.

Agamemnon
12-05-2011, 12:58 AM
Not that big of a fan, but Reggie Bush would be the perfect fit for an offense like ours.

Not personality-wise...

24champ
12-05-2011, 01:03 AM
Not personality-wise...

Personally, I would draft Demps from FL.

OBF1
12-05-2011, 05:56 AM
Personally, I would draft Demps from FL.

Demps is too slow :~ohyah!:

barryr
12-05-2011, 06:00 AM
Here is an article from a Minnesota paper. At least nice to see writers in other towns with an open mind about Tebow. And a few Bronco fans around here as well. Here are some highlights of it:

"Just to be up front, I wish the Vikings had 44 Tim Tebows."

"I wish they had 44 solid, respectful, genuine, caring human beings. I wish they had 44 winners."

"Meanwhile, some guys just know how to win. I find myself becoming an admirer of Tim Tebow. People who take shots at him because of his beliefs can go to hell."

"Over the top? If that's what makes a decent person, everyone should be over the top. Anyone who has a problem with him should redirect their concern to the ultra-religious who strap themselves with explosives and blow up shopping malls. Then they'd have a legitimate gripe."


http://www.twincities.com/powers

Gort
12-05-2011, 06:21 AM
Tebow, Broncos beat Vikings
Bears next

that's the headline and the subheading. either they need a better editor, or they are expecting to lose to the Broncos next week too.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-12-04/sports/chi-tebow-broncos-beat-vikings-bears-next-20111204_1_tim-tebow-kyle-orton-demaryius-thomas

Archie
12-05-2011, 06:25 AM
Here is an article from a Minnesota paper. At least nice to see writers in other towns with an open mind about Tebow. And a few Bronco fans around here as well. Here are some highlights of it:

"Just to be up front, I wish the Vikings had 44 Tim Tebows."

"I wish they had 44 solid, respectful, genuine, caring human beings. I wish they had 44 winners."

"Meanwhile, some guys just know how to win. I find myself becoming an admirer of Tim Tebow. People who take shots at him because of his beliefs can go to hell."

"Over the top? If that's what makes a decent person, everyone should be over the top. Anyone who has a problem with him should redirect their concern to the ultra-religious who strap themselves with explosives and blow up shopping malls. Then they'd have a legitimate gripe."


http://www.twincities.com/powers

This...

Wes Mantooth
12-05-2011, 06:27 AM
" After the game, I whispered in his ear, 'Let 'em keep hating. Keep 'em hating on you."

-Harvin

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If you are going to reference this song, go this route.

http://youtu.be/GaoLU6zKaws

MajorGCG
12-05-2011, 06:29 AM
Ryan Broyles.

Broyles won't work. He's too fragile. The reason Harvin is so beastly is bec he's built like a dumptruck for a WR. He's jacked up.

Jeff Demps won't really work bec he's just too small and his hands are mediocre. As much as I hate Reggie Bush, his size and skill set might be a good fit. He's a great receiver out of the backfield. The key is to have the size/speed combo along with great hands.

TotallyScrewed
12-05-2011, 06:38 AM
How exactly are we going to get Harvin? Without trading way too much for him that is? Dude is a young explosive receiver who could possibly top 1000 yards receiving on a team that has seriously struggled at QB all year. Why would Minnesota let him go?

He could request a trade or his release.!Booya!

Shotgun Willie
12-05-2011, 06:44 AM
that's the headline and the subheading. either they need a better editor, or they are expecting to lose to the Broncos next week too.


No Cutler and no Forte? They just lost to KC? I'd certainly expect to lose to the Broncos too.

Mogulseeker
12-05-2011, 07:39 AM
that's the headline and the subheading. either they need a better editor, or they are expecting to lose to the Broncos next week too.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-12-04/sports/chi-tebow-broncos-beat-vikings-bears-next-20111204_1_tim-tebow-kyle-orton-demaryius-thomas

The chief editor of the Tribune was a Navy MC, and went to DINFOS, the same school I did for military journalism.

LRtagger
12-05-2011, 08:39 AM
3rd Round

http://newnfldraft.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/LaMichael-James-2012-NFL-Mock-Draft.jpg

24champ
12-05-2011, 09:34 AM
3rd Round

http://newnfldraft.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/LaMichael-James-2012-NFL-Mock-Draft.jpg

No way he lasts until the third round.

Jay3
12-05-2011, 09:44 AM
Wait a minute. Tebow was getting knocked by his fellow Gators?

"Everybody was," Thomas said. "But he always proved us wrong. It was the way he threw. We had Chris Leak and Tebow would come in throwing the way he throws. We'd be like, 'Oh, man, he can't do this.' But everything about him is a winner. Ever since his freshman year, we all knew he was the real deal. He proved us all wrong."

Read more: Broncos, Tim Tebow rally to beat Vikings 35-32; now tied atop AFC West - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_19469264#ixzz1fdkNq7RY

This is what I've been trying to get people to believe -- that Tebow was first "polarizing" because of the way he looks throwing the ball. Not the religion. Not because of great success, hype, or "Gator fans being annoying." The way he looks doing his job (frankly, the way he looks running it also, but particularly throwing) just causes about half the people to blink out, their brains telling them "that can't be good."

Gort
12-05-2011, 09:46 AM
This is what I've been trying to get people to believe -- that Tebow was first "polarizing" because of the way he looks throwing the ball. Not the religion. Not because of great success, hype, or "Gator fans being annoying." The way he looks doing his job (frankly, the way he looks running it also, but particularly throwing) just causes about half the people to blink out, their brains telling them "that can't be good."

and yet those same people have spent the past 5 years slobbering all over Marmalard's knob. ???

http://www.fimho.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Philip-Rivers.jpg

Shananahan
12-05-2011, 09:47 AM
No way he lasts until the third round.
I wouldn't complain at all about James in the second round, but I highly doubt he lasts that long, either.

Spider
12-05-2011, 09:50 AM
"I've definitely seen that a couple times from No. 15," said Vikings receiver Percy Harvin​, a former Tebow teammate at the University of Florida. "When I hear all those ESPN commentators say, 'He can't do this,' I laugh. After the game, I whispered in his ear, 'Let 'em keep hating. Keep 'em hating on you.' "

Has he clinched the right to become their indisputable quarterback of the future?

"Most definitely he should be," said Broncos defensive tackle Marcus Thomas, who also was Tebow's teammate at Florida. "You know I've always been a Tebow man. He's always been going through this where people didn't believe in him. I was criticizing him his freshman year in college."

Wait a minute. Tebow was getting knocked by his fellow Gators?

"Everybody was," Thomas said. "But he always proved us wrong. It was the way he threw. We had Chris Leak and Tebow would come in throwing the way he throws. We'd be like, 'Oh, man, he can't do this.' But everything about him is a winner. Ever since his freshman year, we all knew he was the real deal. He proved us all wrong."

Read more: Broncos, Tim Tebow rally to beat Vikings 35-32; now tied atop AFC West - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_19469264#ixzz1fdkNq7RY
such a heart touching , warm story , brought a tear to my eye ............sniff sniff yeah tebow keep em hatin bro ......new battle cry ........ :oyvey:

Play2win
12-05-2011, 09:54 AM
No way he lasts until the third round.

Could we get him in the 2nd round, do you think? If so, I'd be all for it.

LRtagger
12-05-2011, 09:59 AM
I've seen him mocked 2nd/3rd round.

AlphaSeirra
12-05-2011, 10:50 AM
Broyles won't work. He's too fragile. The reason Harvin is so beastly is bec he's built like a
dumptruck for a WR. He's jacked up.

Jeff Demps won't really work bec he's just too small and his hands are mediocre. As much as I hate Reggie Bush,
his size and skill set might be a good fit. He's a great receiver out of the backfield. The key is to have the size/speed
combo along with great hands.

I'm not advocating Demps for a high Denver pick, but I'd take him in later rounds if I could.

Just for your 'factual' consideration.

Jeff Demps 5'-7" 191 - 39 gms, 22 starts. (short, but solid as a rock)

* Since 1996, Demps has twice as many 60-plus yard career rushes (4) than any other Gator player.
** One of only 9 players in the Nation in 2010 with a run of over 70 yards and a kick return of over 50 yards.
~ Had a team-high 927 all-purpose yds, while catching a RB high 18 receptions for 116 yards, 6.4 ypr.
~ Has 1,901 yards rushing on 269 carries, a 7.1 ypc, and 17 TD's on the ground.
~ Has 309 yards receiving on 41 receptions, 7.5 ypr and one receiving TD…

Rushing - 269 for 1,901 yds, 7.1 ypc, 17 TD's, Long 72 yds.
Receiving - 41 for 309 yds, 7.5 ypr, 1 TD, Long 61 yds.
PR - 2 for 37 yds, 18.5 ypr
KO - 11 for 354 yds, 32.2 ypr, long 54 yds.
* SEC Academic Honor Roll & Nominee for the 2010 Allstate AFCA Good Works Team.
Demps is a 7 Time NCAA Track Natl. Champion, including the 60M Indoor and 100M Outdoor record holder.
He has run a 9.96 100M.
While still in HS, he ran a 21.04 200M.

Since 2007, at 7.1 ypc, both Demps and Rainey have continuously had the highest YPC average in D1
football in the nation. They got little pub because they are both considered small, and they run in a
committee system at UF so their individual totals are not large in comparison to RB's in single back systems.

RB Chris Rainey 5'-9" 174 - 41 gms, but only 9 starts in a committee RB system.
He has a quicker 1st step and better moves, Demps is slightly faster at top speed.
Chris accumulated 1,603 yards rushing on 225 attempts, 7.1 ypc and scored 11 TD's.
Has also recorded 38 receptions for 414 yards 10.9 ypr and scored 4 TD's.
He also competed with the UF track
team in the spring indoor season in 2010.

Rushing - 225 for 1,603 yds, 7.1 ypc, 11 TD's, Long 76 yds.
Receiving - 38 for 414 yds, 10.9 ypr, 4 TD's, Long 40 yds.
PR - 14 for 129 yds, 9.2 ypr, 1 TD, Long 23 yds.
KR - 14 for 351 yds, 25 ypr, Long 51 yds.

I haven't a clue how either would play and/or hold up at the NFL level, but a few smaller guys have done fairly well in the past.
Seems like they might be worth a chance in a later round. :thumbs: