View Full Version : Let's Check the OM Waters on Tebow
bendog
12-05-2011, 10:33 AM
I think most people in football would take it as a given that Tebow gets next offseason camp and a full season to lead this team. What I was trying to get at is a different mind-set. It's the difference between showing a couple of aces and betting high, or knowing you've got two more hidden and pushing all your chips into the middle of the table.
I'm sure the Bengals, for example, are planning the years to come around Dalton. The issue is settled, for them. At least, I can't imagine that it isn't. But because of the differences in Tebow's game, that decision is being drawn out and argued over in Denver (actually, all over the country). So I was curious to see where the OM members stand on the issue now. At the end of the season, I'll probably do it again. ;D
I guess I should have phrased the questions, would you now bet really high on Tebow, or go ahead and push every chip you've got out into the pot?
Ok. I understand now. I'll go all in. Just my personal opinion, and for what it's worth I'm "betting" tebow is the QBOF and who, assuming the talent is assembled, can win more than one Lombardi.
But, as a bronco fan, I know even if I'm wrong it's not the end of the world(-: The worse that happens is that he suddenly hit's his ceiling and teams figure out that unless they turn over the ball, we probably can't beat them. Den goes 6-10, and Elway finds a new horse to ride.
ScottXray
12-05-2011, 11:11 AM
I expect a similar game plan against Da Bears. Like the Vikings, the Bears have a very good run defense and a very poor pass defense...
Bears are 30th against the pass, NE is 32nd. Similar plans the next 2 weeks, but we need Von back to keep the rush going, and we CAN"T get into a shootout against Brady and Co..
Unfortunately we had to show DT off a bit in the Minny game, but its all good as it gives teams another problem to worry about and it also means that Tebow can beat you with his arm which means antoher problem for defenses to consider.
We need Tebow to be effective throwing and finding open guys and McGahee to continue beast mode th enext two weeks. Royal dinged up is bad, so Fells and the TEs have to step up.
Not too worried about the Bears without Forte and Cutler, but Gronkowski is going to be the key to stopping NE.
alkemical
12-05-2011, 12:08 PM
NE's strength on D is the RunD. They've been the most consistent there.
bendog
12-05-2011, 12:13 PM
yeah. I'm not gung ho about NE, and I certainly thought Lambchop would like Den up, but with him and Forte down .... I think Den's D might keep the score low.
Swedish Extrovert
12-05-2011, 12:47 PM
I wanted Pouncey so I wasn't wrong, but definitely was this year when I wanted Dareus over Miller.
I wanted Dareus until right a couple days before the draft. I saw the sports science piece on Von Miller and was immediately sold.
Anyone have the new Madden? Von Miller has got to be like 99 ACC.
Mile High Mojoe
12-05-2011, 01:47 PM
Whats with all the we talk? You got a turd in your pocket? Nobody is on your side you hyperventilating old dumb ass. What is my next brilliant draft assignment?? I'm assuming you meant assessment, but you are too ****ing stupid, and too ****ing blind to read and write a post that makes any sense. I don't think your a ****ing idiot because of your opinion, I think you're a ****ing idiot because of the stupid $hit that come out of your mouth. Being old doesn't make you smarter, in this case it has regressed your intelligence level you stupid old bastard.
It really pleases me to light a fire under your ass today. You know what I’m happier about? Winning.
For almost a month and half the Broncos have been winning, some of the games were not a thing of beauty at the time but are still wins. During that time we’ve been subjected to post after post from guys like you, Roh, TGN, Rev, and Spider who had given up on the Broncos at game 6 of the NFL Season and had totally dismissed the idea of winning because of a personal hate and grudge for Tebow. This group was ready to throw in the towel and do what’s been done on this site for the last 5 years and that’s look to next year’s draft or next year’s QB. This year it started after game 5 of the NFL season, with 11, yes 11 games yet to be played.
I guess I’m different, when Tebow started his first game against the Fins I was just a fan being in the moment watching a game hoping my team would win one. I didn’t have the TV remote in one hand and my iPhone in the other checking the latest college QB’s statistics from the day before or trying to figure where the Broncos draft position would be if we lost to them.
The height of the insanity came when I saw a thread posted by Kaylore. Kaylore is one of the best posters on this board. He’s an intelligent even handed guy who’s as die hard as they get. But even he had been driven to think more of next year than this one with a thread that calculated what the Broncos losing percentage would be as it related to next year’s draft. I’m sorry that just goes beyond anything I could possibly image going into week 6 of an NFL Season
In the beginning I had my doubts about Tebow too. Today (And that’s what really matters) the guy is real live Clark Kent. As Kent I’m not sure he’ll ever be a Superman which is fine with me, as long as he continues to improve and more importantly helps the team win I don’t care what he does off the field.
I think the doubters and haters would much rather have a Dark Knight than a Clark Kent. A cerebral Batman type QB who’s a genius on the field and off it. Tebow isn’t that complicated, his life is orderly and simple. He puts all of his love and faith in God 1st and then loves his family 2nd and lastly is completely devoted to being the best team football player he can be.
Personally I think those are qualities to be admired not hated. We’ve been subjected to a whole league full of thugs that have committing every terrible vice known to man and call it acceptable but we can’t accept Tebow? He wears his faith on his sleeve and he comes from a very successful Florida program that sets him up to burned at the stake by a bunch of wolves who hate the idea of a goodie 2 shoes succeeding at anything let alone a QB of their team.
Winning supersedes all ills, winning breed’s confidence; winning no matter how some of you would like to apologize for it or say it’s a fluke is still winning. The wins in week 6 and 8 no matter how ugly they were will only matter because they bring the Broncos one game closer to winning the AFC West and a playoff berth.
It’s too bad more Broncos Fans can’t get use to the idea of winning and Tebow as the QBOTF. I’m having the time of my life right now. I can’t wait to see the Bears game. If the Broncos make the playoffs win or lose it’ll go down in Broncos lore as one of the greatest season’s ever in my book because so many had written them off and many of them are so called Broncos fans.
Crushaholic
12-05-2011, 02:07 PM
yeah. I'm not gung ho about NE, and I certainly thought Lambchop would like Den up, but with him and Forte down .... I think Den's D might keep the score low.
If the Denver defense manages to neutralize the Patriots offense, that will make me a very, very, happy (and shocked) fan...
Spider
12-05-2011, 02:17 PM
During that time we’ve been subjected to post after post from guys like Spider who had given up on the Broncos at game 6 of the NFL Season and had totally dismissed the idea of winning because of a personal hate and grudge for Tebow.
LMFAO you are such a bald face liar ..........I would ask you to pull up one post of miine to prove this , but everyone pretty much knows you are an idiot , I suggest you stay in Oregon , perfect place for you .. Batchit crazy ****er
Blueflame
12-05-2011, 03:27 PM
It really pleases me to light a fire under your ass today. You know what I’m happier about? Winning.
For almost a month and half the Broncos have been winning, some of the games were not a thing of beauty at the time but are still wins. During that time we’ve been subjected to post after post from guys like you, Roh, TGN, Rev, and Spider who had given up on the Broncos at game 6 of the NFL Season and had totally dismissed the idea of winning because of a personal hate and grudge for Tebow. This group was ready to throw in the towel and do what’s been done on this site for the last 5 years and that’s look to next year’s draft or next year’s QB. This year it started after game 5 of the NFL season, with 11, yes 11 games yet to be played.
I guess I’m different, when Tebow started his first game against the Fins I was just a fan being in the moment watching a game hoping my team would win one. I didn’t have the TV remote in one hand and my iPhone in the other checking the latest college QB’s statistics from the day before or trying to figure where the Broncos draft position would be if we lost to them.
The height of the insanity came when I saw a thread posted by Kaylore. Kaylore is one of the best posters on this board. He’s an intelligent even handed guy who’s as die hard as they get. But even he had been driven to think more of next year than this one with a thread that calculated what the Broncos losing percentage would be as it related to next year’s draft. I’m sorry that just goes beyond anything I could possibly image going into week 6 of an NFL Season
In the beginning I had my doubts about Tebow too. Today (And that’s what really matters) the guy is real live Clark Kent. As Kent I’m not sure he’ll ever be a Superman which is fine with me, as long as he continues to improve and more importantly helps the team win I don’t care what he does off the field.
I think the doubters and haters would much rather have a Dark Knight than a Clark Kent. A cerebral Batman type QB who’s a genius on the field and off it. Tebow isn’t that complicated, his life is orderly and simple. He puts all of his love and faith in God 1st and then loves his family 2nd and lastly is completely devoted to being the best team football player he can be.
Personally I think those are qualities to be admired not hated. We’ve been subjected to a whole league full of thugs that have committing every terrible vice known to man and call it acceptable but we can’t accept Tebow? He wears his faith on his sleeve and he comes from a very successful Florida program that sets him up to burned at the stake by a bunch of wolves who hate the idea of a goodie 2 shoes succeeding at anything let alone a QB of their team.
Winning supersedes all ills, winning breed’s confidence; winning no matter how some of you would like to apologize for it or say it’s a fluke is still winning. The wins in week 6 and 8 no matter how ugly they were will only matter because they bring the Broncos one game closer to winning the AFC West and a playoff berth.
It’s too bad more Broncos Fans can’t get use to the idea of winning and Tebow as the QBOTF. I’m having the time of my life right now. I can’t wait to see the Bears game. If the Broncos make the playoffs win or lose it’ll go down in Broncos lore as one of the greatest season’s ever in my book because so many had written them off and many of them are so called Broncos fans.
Look, if you truly want to only see one opinion (same as yours) posted here on the Mane, that can easily be accomplished through the liberal use of the ignore feature. I heartily recommend it as my guess your blood pressure would improve. See an opinion you don't like? Go into User CP >Friends and place that poster on iggy and there's no more need to complain about "posts you're subjected to".
Rohirrim
12-05-2011, 03:28 PM
It really pleases me to light a fire under your ass today. You know what I’m happier about? Winning...
Just stop posting. None of this **** is true. It's all in your head. Get a paper bag and breathe into it a few times before posting.
Dr. Broncenstein
12-05-2011, 03:29 PM
Look, if you truly want to only see one opinion (same as yours) posted here on the Mane, that can easily be accomplished through the liberal use of the ignore feature. I heartily recommend it as my guess your blood pressure would improve. See an opinion you don't like? Go into User CP >Friends and place that poster on iggy and there's no more need to complain about "posts you're subjected to".
Or become a mod and ban people you disagree with.
Blueflame
12-05-2011, 03:34 PM
Or become a mod and ban people you disagree with.
If you have an issue with any bans I've imposed, then I'm happy to discuss it via PM.
Dr. Broncenstein
12-05-2011, 03:35 PM
If you have an issue with any bans I've imposed, then I'm happy to discuss it via PM.
Lol. That would defeat the point.
ScottXray
12-05-2011, 03:37 PM
Or become a mod and ban people you disagree with.
:rofl::rofl::giggle:
Unkind,:~ohyah!: but funny anyway
Blueflame
12-05-2011, 03:47 PM
Lol. That would defeat the point.
Communication is the entire point of a message board. I'm assuming the reference is Agamemnon's well-deserved 7-day ban. I've heard more crying about that one than any decision I've ever made here. I'm not sorry for banning him and would instantly do it again if he posted the same post a second time.
Dr. Broncenstein
12-05-2011, 03:53 PM
Communication is the entire point of a message board. I'm assuming the reference is Agamemnon's well-deserved 7-day ban. I've heard more crying about that one than any decision I've ever made here. I'm not sorry for banning him and would instantly do it again if he posted the same post a second time.
I'm no fan of the guy, but he didn't deserve it. Too bad the thread is deleted. The mere fact that anyone complained about his banning ought to raise a doubt in your mind about how "well deserved" it was.
TotallyScrewed
12-05-2011, 04:04 PM
Communication is the entire point of a message board. I'm assuming the reference is Agamemnon's well-deserved 7-day ban. I've heard more crying about that one than any decision I've ever made here. I'm not sorry for banning him and would instantly do it again if he posted the same post a second time.
It's so funny seeing you post anything anymore. And your little boxed-in-comment is classic...perhaps you should add a further disclaimer or two.
And now back to the real point of the thread...
Long Term Answer?
I don't know how anyone can think Tebow isn't the long term answer much less deny that Tebow IS the long term answer. The real question is will the FO and the coaches GO ALL IN and is there enough talent throughout this team (FO - to - ballboy) to finish this year strong and make wise decisions during the offseason.
Blueflame
12-05-2011, 04:19 PM
I'm no fan of the guy, but he didn't deserve it. Too bad the thread is deleted. The mere fact that anyone complained about his banning ought to raise a doubt in your mind about how "well deserved" it was.
So your contention is that gender-based bigotry is not only acceptable, it should be condoned and even encouraged. Nice.
mwill07
12-05-2011, 04:23 PM
last night, I voted 'unsure', but couldn't really articulate why. Well, I've been thinking aboit it, and I think I know what I want to see: 60 minutes of good football. That's it. I want to see one complete game where the offense plays well from the opening possession until the final whistle. One game that doesn't require a pick-6. Onr game where the broncos take a lead into halftime, and then extend it. One game where Tebow completes easy and difficult throws all day, amd the offense hums like a finely tuned machine. One game with more offensive scores than punts.
I don't think this is too much to ask of a QBOTF. It's what NFL QB's are supposed to do, especially against inferior talent.
Dr. Broncenstein
12-05-2011, 04:24 PM
So your contention is that gender-based bigotry is not only acceptable, it should be condoned and even encouraged. Nice.
Where did I say that? I said it wasn't ban worthy. Also, is gender-based bigotry the only ban worthy form of bigotry around here?
bowtown
12-05-2011, 04:26 PM
Doctors are homos.
Blueflame
12-05-2011, 04:28 PM
Where did I say that? I said it wasn't ban worthy. Also, is gender-based bigotry the only ban worthy form of bigotry around here?
Let's please take this to PM instead of continuing to derail the thread.
Dr. Broncenstein
12-05-2011, 04:29 PM
Doctors are homos.
http://www.haiersmedical.com/image/Cartridges%20%20of%20hemorrhoids%20staplers.jpg
Don't be jealous that I get more ass than Blart.
Doctors are homos.
ruh roh!
http://www.gamerdna.com/uimage/DwmbR53/large/permabanned-gif.gif
TotallyScrewed
12-05-2011, 04:43 PM
http://www.haiersmedical.com/image/Cartridges%20%20of%20hemorrhoids%20staplers.jpg
Don't be jealous that I get more ass than Blart.
Anybody else want to know just what the hell that is and equally glad we don't??
broncogary
12-05-2011, 04:53 PM
Anybody else want to know just what the hell that is and equally glad we don't??
Let's just say that if he used it on you, you would be TotallyScrewed. :~ohyah!:
Let's just say that if he used it on you, you would be TotallyScrewed. :~ohyah!:
or better yet, TotallyStapled.
TotallyScrewed
12-05-2011, 05:13 PM
Let's just say that if he used it on you, you would be TotallyScrewed. :~ohyah!:
Let's just leave it at: I'm TotallyScrewed for a multiple of reasons...and the "screwing" is total. And I'm having a hard time moving on...*sniff* ^5
Still, I'm glad that I don't personally know a thing about that "tool"!
Or become a mod and ban people you disagree with.
Rep.
TailgateNut
12-05-2011, 05:44 PM
It really pleases me to light a fire under your ass today. You know what I’m happier about? Winning.
For almost a month and half the Broncos have been winning, some of the games were not a thing of beauty at the time but are still wins. During that time we’ve been subjected to post after post from guys like you, Roh, TGN, Rev, and Spider who had given up on the Broncos at game 6 of the NFL Season and had totally dismissed the idea of winning because of a personal hate and grudge for Tebow. This group was ready to throw in the towel and do what’s been done on this site for the last 5 years and that’s look to next year’s draft or next year’s QB. This year it started after game 5 of the NFL season, with 11, yes 11 games yet to be played.
I guess I’m different, when Tebow started his first game against the Fins I was just a fan being in the moment watching a game hoping my team would win one. I didn’t have the TV remote in one hand and my iPhone in the other checking the latest college QB’s statistics from the day before or trying to figure where the Broncos draft position would be if we lost to them.
The height of the insanity came when I saw a thread posted by Kaylore. Kaylore is one of the best posters on this board. He’s an intelligent even handed guy who’s as die hard as they get. But even he had been driven to think more of next year than this one with a thread that calculated what the Broncos losing percentage would be as it related to next year’s draft. I’m sorry that just goes beyond anything I could possibly image going into week 6 of an NFL Season
In the beginning I had my doubts about Tebow too. Today (And that’s what really matters) the guy is real live Clark Kent. As Kent I’m not sure he’ll ever be a Superman which is fine with me, as long as he continues to improve and more importantly helps the team win I don’t care what he does off the field.
I think the doubters and haters would much rather have a Dark Knight than a Clark Kent. A cerebral Batman type QB who’s a genius on the field and off it. Tebow isn’t that complicated, his life is orderly and simple. He puts all of his love and faith in God 1st and then loves his family 2nd and lastly is completely devoted to being the best team football player he can be.
Personally I think those are qualities to be admired not hated. We’ve been subjected to a whole league full of thugs that have committing every terrible vice known to man and call it acceptable but we can’t accept Tebow? He wears his faith on his sleeve and he comes from a very successful Florida program that sets him up to burned at the stake by a bunch of wolves who hate the idea of a goodie 2 shoes succeeding at anything let alone a QB of their team.
Winning supersedes all ills, winning breed’s confidence; winning no matter how some of you would like to apologize for it or say it’s a fluke is still winning. The wins in week 6 and 8 no matter how ugly they were will only matter because they bring the Broncos one game closer to winning the AFC West and a playoff berth.
It’s too bad more Broncos Fans can’t get use to the idea of winning and Tebow as the QBOTF. I’m having the time of my life right now. I can’t wait to see the Bears game. If the Broncos make the playoffs win or lose it’ll go down in Broncos lore as one of the greatest season’s ever in my book because so many had written them off and many of them are so called Broncos fans.
Just go to hell, you ****ing asshole. You speak of others as if you knew who the are and what they think and do. **** YOU you POS!
TailgateNut
12-05-2011, 05:45 PM
Or become a mod and ban people you disagree with.
STFU you fake ass Mfer!
Dagmar
12-05-2011, 05:52 PM
http://files.sharenator.com/Amazing_thread_RE_bronies-s397x317-152687.jpg
Dagmar
12-05-2011, 05:55 PM
So your contention is that gender-based bigotry is not only acceptable, it should be condoned and even encouraged. Nice.
Homophobic bigotry is completely tolerated, what's the difference with gender bigotry here Blue?
Dr. Broncenstein
12-05-2011, 05:57 PM
STFU you fake ass Mfer!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Rns-cNl1kvM/TeqOr3HckgI/AAAAAAAADEA/lsn6Wr00vu8/s1600/billy-dee-lol-he-mad.jpg
rbackfactory80
12-05-2011, 06:08 PM
Homophobic bigotry is completely tolerated, what's the difference with gender bigotry here Blue?
Actually, I think I have an answer.
We have a woman moderator.
We don't have a gay moderator.
I hope I have answered your question.
Dagmar
12-05-2011, 06:10 PM
Actually, I think I have an answer.
We have a woman moderator.
We don't have a gay moderator.
I hope I have answered your question.
I have SoCal suspicions...
Blueflame
12-05-2011, 06:15 PM
Homophobic bigotry is completely tolerated, what's the difference with gender bigotry here Blue?
I don't think homophobic bigotry should be tolerated either. No one should be discriminated against solely based on something they were born with.
SureShot
12-05-2011, 06:21 PM
I don't think homophobic bigotry should be tolerated either. No one should be discriminated against solely based on something they were born with.
Then get with the banning already. What are you waiting for?
Agamemnon
12-05-2011, 06:27 PM
Look, if you truly want to only see one opinion (same as yours) posted here on the Mane, that can easily be accomplished through the liberal use of the ignore feature. I heartily recommend it as my guess your blood pressure would improve. See an opinion you don't like? Go into User CP >Friends and place that poster on iggy and there's no more need to complain about "posts you're subjected to".
Unless they are a mod. Then you have to put up with any stupid **** they feel like saying...
Agamemnon
12-05-2011, 06:29 PM
I'm no fan of the guy, but he didn't deserve it. Too bad the thread is deleted. The mere fact that anyone complained about his banning ought to raise a doubt in your mind about how "well deserved" it was.
That hurts my feelings. I like you Doc... ;)
sirhcyennek81
12-05-2011, 06:35 PM
WTF happened to this thread?
:Broncos:
Crushaholic
12-05-2011, 06:37 PM
WTF happened to this thread?
:Broncos:
Exactly. What the hell happened?
Blueflame
12-05-2011, 06:40 PM
Unless they are a mod. Then you have to put up with any stupid **** they feel like saying...
Your mouse is equipped with a "scroll" button, is it not?
Dr. Broncenstein
12-05-2011, 06:42 PM
WTF happened to this thread?
:Broncos:
It went from projecting to witch hunt, that's what happened.
Dagmar
12-05-2011, 06:44 PM
3 phases doctor...
sirhcyennek81
12-05-2011, 06:45 PM
It went from projecting to witch hunt, that's what happened.
Apparently.
:Broncos:
DBroncos4life
12-05-2011, 06:49 PM
Where did I say that? I said it wasn't ban worthy. Also, is gender-based bigotry the only ban worthy form of bigotry around here?
I didn't see it in the "rules" then again I didn't see anything about making our owner look like Hitler in there either but, that got a poster banned.
DAN_BRONCO_FAN
12-05-2011, 06:53 PM
WTF happened to this thread?
:Broncos:
i dont really know one minute civil debate discussion about tebow now bronco fans cyber fighting and accusing each other of stuff.:giggle: btw did you steal my remote control to my tv one of you sob did now fess up
DAN_BRONCO_FAN
12-05-2011, 06:59 PM
Well alrighty then. Thought I would give friendly debate on the Mane one more shot. Not gonna happen.
yeah that went to hell in a hand basket real quick
Dagmar
12-05-2011, 07:10 PM
If Monday Night Football were more entertaining...
Turd_Ferguson
12-05-2011, 07:41 PM
If Monday Night Football were more entertaining...
LOL Rep
Turd_Ferguson
12-05-2011, 08:02 PM
You know, if you'd just stop posting this dumbass stuff and instead keep posting more of your vacation pics, you'd make lots more friends. I'll bet you're a party animal when it's slide show time.
Wait when were these vacation pics posted?
Spider
12-05-2011, 08:03 PM
Wait when were these vacation pics posted?
I dont remember but Mojoe got his ass handed to him
TailgateNut
12-05-2011, 08:05 PM
My dogs name is Mojo (no e), but he's quite intelligent.
Dagmar
12-05-2011, 08:25 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/DneHIDDFMpY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Dr. Broncenstein
12-05-2011, 08:33 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/DneHIDDFMpY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
No filth flarn flarn filth in that clip.
Bacchus
12-05-2011, 09:40 PM
I was on some vike boards aftere the game and a few of them mentioned that Tebow reminds them of Joe Capp. He through the ugliest passes in the world but he did lead Minnesota to a SB.