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Rohirrim
12-03-2011, 09:47 AM
This article paints an interesting picture of us. At the end of the 60s we were singing "All You Need is Love." By the end of the 80s, we changed our tune to "Greed is Good." Is it a better world? Is this article right, that our music reflects who we are and we have become a society of insular, narcissistic animals who's only concern is our own immediate needs?
http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/02/showbiz/music/love-songs/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

Both the love songs and those with messages sprang from the same source, the belief that loving one another and your community was important, says Gamble, who still lives in Philadelphia renovating blighted neighborhoods through his nonprofit, Universal Companies.

"We had so much harmony, so much purpose in our music," he says. "Our whole purpose was the message is in the music, and that message was to love one another and to do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Last week, a man fell dead of a heart attack while shopping at a Walmart. Other shoppers stepped over him to get to the Christmas sales.

While this article focuses on the African-American community, I don't see any difference. Our music reflects our culture, and our times. It seems to be the zeitgeist, this narcissism and a form of destructive individualism that turns away from any form of community, from families all the way up to nations. Our music reflects it, as does our politics.

The message of our times seems to be, "I got mine. **** you!"

mosca
12-03-2011, 03:41 PM
I saw this article a few days ago and it was spot on, specifically in showing how pop music and the music industry is dominated by musicians focusing on narcissim, being a "star", and focusing on what you can get instead of what you can give.

Pop music has been crap and shows no signs of getting better. There's plenty of incredible stuff being released independently, though. It's the mainstream message that's being mass-pumped into our consciousness that is full of the self-entitlement and delusions of grandeur. Catering to the lowest common denominator.

ant1999e
12-03-2011, 04:07 PM
The message in music today is shyt. Back on my day you had Keith Sweat and Jodeci, romancing music. Now it's, I want to **** you and I'm gonna beat that pussy up. Totally disrespecting to women. It's no wonder why we have so many single mothers and crappy marriages. To Roh's point, I got mine, I ****ed you.

epicSocialism4tw
12-03-2011, 05:19 PM
This article paints an interesting picture of us. At the end of the 60s we were singing "All You Need is Love." By the end of the 80s, we changed our tune to "Greed is Good." Is it a better world? Is this article right, that our music reflects who we are and we have become a society of insular, narcissistic animals who's only concern is our own immediate needs?
http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/02/showbiz/music/love-songs/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

Both the love songs and those with messages sprang from the same source, the belief that loving one another and your community was important, says Gamble, who still lives in Philadelphia renovating blighted neighborhoods through his nonprofit, Universal Companies.

"We had so much harmony, so much purpose in our music," he says. "Our whole purpose was the message is in the music, and that message was to love one another and to do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Last week, a man fell dead of a heart attack while shopping at a Walmart. Other shoppers stepped over him to get to the Christmas sales.

While this article focuses on the African-American community, I don't see any difference. Our music reflects our culture, and our times. It seems to be the zeitgeist, this narcissism and a form of destructive individualism that turns away from any form of community, from families all the way up to nations. Our music reflects it, as does our politics.

The message of our times seems to be, "I got mine. **** you!"

Thats true in the rap culture where grubbers like Kanye West, Jay-Z, and P-Diddy (or whatever) propagate the "money, cash, hoes" philosophy" that began in the gangster rap of the early 90's.

But its not true at all for the modern indie rock genre (see Animal Collective, Fleet Foxes, Mutemath, etc, etc), popular rock music (Coldplay, Radiohead, etc), country music, jazz, etc, etc.