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hambone13
05-11-2012, 12:12 AM
I've been remiss getting in touch with Rev the last couple of weeks. He'll forgive me, I sent him some good stories for his appendicies. Between a wedding of our favorite niece in Texas, and our ReFi deal here in Atlanta, it has been a bit of a b**** timing wise. I am proud of what he has accomplished to this point, though. Leatherneck doing good. We will keep in touch on this, and other things as well. Bro'. Count on that. Semper Fi, and I mean that in the best of ways. Only those of us who did it, get it. I don't give a FK what your MOS was, you know what I mean. You served, nuff said.

Yeah, I think the Rev's a solid jar-head. I infrequently disagree with him and he's educated me quite a bit on some of the more cerebral elements of the secondary, as far as football goes. Not to mention for a Leather Neck he's pretty bright and well written.

My primary MOS was a 1371 Combat Engineer. I'll give you some background on PM regarding the details of my time in. I spent most of my contract on embassy duty though. I never saw SA or Somalia but I felt the diplomatic aftermath, mostly in Turkey as that is where I got my SW Asia Service accolades. Stories best kept between leather-dog-necks with devil-nuts. SF

hambone13
05-11-2012, 12:15 AM
Sweet! Looking forward to ending this current run of the lakers this weekend. Enjoy tonight, Bro'. Nice win. Melo is done, and we have a shot at the Thunder. I am loving this TEAM!


PS If you are not hung over like a big dog tomorrow, you half stepped....no excuse...go big, go deep!!!!

I too love this team because I just frankly don't care for the majority of the NBA in general because of it's personality. I love how George is coaching this team and the fact that he's being given the opportunity to "Moneyball" towards the end of his career because he deserves a title and I certainly hope it's here.

hambone13
05-11-2012, 12:25 AM
Pepsi Center was rocking, now in LoDo gettingy DRINK on. BEAT LA.

I was watching the game on Altitude and Hastings said it was the loudest crowd he's ever been there for, including '09. I just hope this young team carries that hammer all the way back to LA for another win. It would be sweet to move on with such a cool team to watch and root for. They're an a-typical NBA team with no premier talent, winning with teamwork. That's what will bring the NBA back to being worth watching in general like the college game.

RhymesayersDU
05-11-2012, 12:28 AM
The game was super loud, chanting every possession, etc. GREAT crowd.

Dutch
05-11-2012, 12:31 AM
Yeah, I think the Rev's a solid jar-head. I infrequently disagree with him and he's educated me quite a bit on some of the more cerebral elements of the secondary, as far as football goes. Not to mention for a Leather Neck he's pretty bright and well written.

My primary MOS was a 1371 Combat Engineer. I'll give you some background on PM regarding the details of my time in. I spent most of my contract on embassy duty though. I never saw SA or Somalia but I felt the diplomatic aftermath, mostly in Turkey as that is where I got my SW Asia Service accolades. Stories best kept between leather-dog-necks with devil-nuts. SF

Good on you, and good to see that you "get it". I've always said that "Jarheads" are the ones we have to apologize for, "Leathernecks" are the ones we would like to have marry our daughters. Rev is a Leatherneck. Plain and simple. I was a 4000. 4034 Mainframe computer operator to start. 4066 systems programmer (V-TAM) and 4025 (data communications specialist) to follow. Then I became an 0326 Recon Marine. Went through BUDS with the SEALS, and went through jump school with the Rangers. I spent the last 5 years in the Corps as "The Geek", taking care of all of the tech for my Recon Battalion brothers. Good duty, good times....in spite of the ****.

hambone13
05-11-2012, 12:37 AM
The game was super loud, chanting every possession, etc. GREAT crowd.

I've almost always appreciated your posts, cheers. What was the bail-out rate like? Hastings was saying that even when we were up 25+ in the middle of the 4th, the seats were still pretty much full. Where where you? What was your impression of the "end of game" enthusiasm?

Dutch
05-11-2012, 12:43 AM
Yeah, I think the Rev's a solid jar-head. I infrequently disagree with him and he's educated me quite a bit on some of the more cerebral elements of the secondary, as far as football goes. Not to mention for a Leather Neck he's pretty bright and well written.

My primary MOS was a 1371 Combat Engineer. I'll give you some background on PM regarding the details of my time in. I spent most of my contract on embassy duty though. I never saw SA or Somalia but I felt the diplomatic aftermath, mostly in Turkey as that is where I got my SW Asia Service accolades. Stories best kept between leather-dog-necks with devil-nuts. SF

Gotta lot of love for the Embassy boys as I spent over half of my time in at Quantico. Tough duty, but good duty if you are in the right detatchment. I hooked up all of the Embassy boys in western Europe to Bayan Vines Email and LAN in '87 and '88. Great 2 year period for me. Travelled Europe for 2 years going to the finest cities over there. Spend two days setting up a server and accounts, then have three to five days to enjoy the sights. Nice. I'll get back to some of them one of these days.

hambone13
05-11-2012, 12:51 AM
Good on you, and good to see that you "get it". I've always said that "Jarheads" are the ones we have to apologize for, "Leathernecks" are the ones we would like to have marry our daughters. Rev is a Leatherneck. Plain and simple. I was a 4000. 4034 Mainframe computer operator to start. 4066 systems programmer (V-TAM) and 4025 (data communications specialist) to follow. Then I became an 0326 Recon Marine. Went through BUDS with the SEALS, and went through jump school with the Rangers. I spent the last 5 years in the Corps as "The Geek", taking care of all of the tech for my Recon Battalion brothers. Good duty, good times....in spite of the ****.

I was always "the geek" because I hooked everyone up on anything that plugged into a wall but the corps never recognized my IT passion as I was more interested in jumping out of helicopters, becoming a great marksman, survival/combat skills, etc. I come from a military family and wanted to enjoy my time focused on that. My "geek" qualities came out in the leaders around me because I could help them when **** broke in the time of need. They would look at me and say stuff like, "How do you know this ****?"

I would respond, "My first computer was a Commodore 64."

The would reply, "What the **** is that?"

I would say, every time, "Exactly, now shut the **** up Gunny and let me do this."

I always got some rendition of, "**** it, if you can out shoot me and you say you know what you're doing about this, just ****ing do it!"

Needless to say, my call-sign on certain ops was "Geek or Nerd" as well. I was always quietly flattered. It's pretty cool to see the nerd being held in higher regard for my kids era though. Binary understanding leads to greater understanding of more complicated things for many people and not many can do it! How's your COBOL and CICS or were you just a COM protocol guy? VTAM is a pretty obscure skill in the roots of data-com, in my experience.

J

hambone13
05-11-2012, 01:03 AM
Gotta lot of love for the Embassy boys as I spent over half of my time in at Quantico. Tough duty, but good duty if you are in the right detatchment. I hooked up all of the Embassy boys in western Europe to Bayan Vines Email and LAN in '87 and '88. Great 2 year period for me. Travelled Europe for 2 years going to the finest cities over there. Spend two days setting up a server and accounts, then have three to five days to enjoy the sights. Nice. I'll get back to some of them one of these days.

I'd love to hear some of those stories live! The school at Quantico was honestly the hardest thing I've ever done. This was '92ish and it was a b**** to get past the screening. We started 287 and graduated 64ish. I thought every day that there was no way I was going to make it. It was a huge mind ****. Bootcamp was like joining the Air Force in comparison. You're one of the few people I've run into that might actually appreciate some of my stories from there and vice versa. Maybe would should set up some time to chat live. Seriously, I'm intrigued by your exposure to my lot in general. Let me know what you think.

hambone13
05-11-2012, 01:07 AM
Gotta lot of love for the Embassy boys as I spent over half of my time in at Quantico. Tough duty, but good duty if you are in the right detatchment. I hooked up all of the Embassy boys in western Europe to Bayan Vines Email and LAN in '87 and '88. Great 2 year period for me. Travelled Europe for 2 years going to the finest cities over there. Spend two days setting up a server and accounts, then have three to five days to enjoy the sights. Nice. I'll get back to some of them one of these days.

Your reference to Banyan Vines sparked a connection. Did you ever know one of the upper enlisted guys in IT at Q named George Murphy?

Dutch
05-11-2012, 02:07 AM
Your reference to Banyan Vines sparked a connection. Did you ever know one of the upper enlisted guys in IT at Q named George Murphy?

I helped train Gunny Murphy, good dude and Marine. I also worked side by side with Gunny McAfee for three years (who later went on to become THE McAfee of the data security world, he was at HQ Marine Corps at the Navy Annex but we were essentially the same shop. Half my counterparts went to work for McAfee as soon as they got out. I thought he was an egotistical prick who I just couldn't see working for. If I'd have had any idea that this was the way the whole 1st civ-div was, I'd have done it in a heartbeat. Oh well, sometimes you have to learn the hard way). Yeah, I turned down an opportunity to become the primary IT guy for MSG after I set up all of the sites in Europe. Went Recon instead. I was lucky in that being at Quantico in IT was the ticket to wherever you could go with our MOS. I was tempted (especially after Ireland) to go MSG, but my heart was with Recon (thanks Dad, generational thing). I went through every school Banyan had up to '94, and CISCO as well (CCIE in 88) I still have a 4 digit CISCO certified engineer ID to this day (they are 12 digit now, they put 8 0's in front of mine). I was in the first government class CISCO taught in '86 (one of their first cert classes ever). The first year they started their certification classes. I still get people at CISCO who freak out at my cert ID. Tonight was a great night, not only did the Nugs kick the crap out of the Flakers, but we just re-established connectivity on one of the major fiber trunks outside of Tokyo that has been down since the tsunami. This is a huge deal for that area. I'm drinking a glass of sake from a bottle I brought back with me in '93. Just seemed the right time for it. Those little F'er have been busting their asses to get this done and up for ever, it seems. Just wish I could share it with them. Good guys who have all been impacted by the tragedy. Hard working and dedicated dudes, though. Would love to be able to share this with them tonight. Kompai!

Dutch
05-11-2012, 02:32 AM
I'd love to hear some of those stories live! The school at Quantico was honestly the hardest thing I've ever done. This was '92ish and it was a b**** to get past the screening. We started 287 and graduated 64ish. I thought every day that there was no way I was going to make it. It was a huge mind ****. Bootcamp was like joining the Air Force in comparison. You're one of the few people I've run into that might actually appreciate some of my stories from there and vice versa. Maybe would should set up some time to chat live. Seriously, I'm intrigued by your exposure to my lot in general. Let me know what you think.

MSG was a b****. Got nothing but love for anyone who made it through that horse ****. I put it on the same level as Yankee Whites at 8th & I and Drill Instructor Duty. I gave it serious consideration as I had hook ups I developed during my implementation tour and through my Dad that could have gotten me on the path. The way things shook out for me was the Recon route. Same deal, really. The difference was, I could use all of the things I already knew in the data side (not so much with MSG as most of that was handled by state dept pukes), and I could also utilize more of the skill set I already had coming in as a shooter (Dad taught us the Marine Corps Way in marksmanship at about 6 years old). No regrets, but I will say that had I gone MSG, I would have probably retired from the service instead of getting out when I did. Recon is a b**** on the joints!

Dutch
05-11-2012, 02:44 AM
Sorry for the segue. Back to topic! Congrats to the Nugs! Now go and get it done on Saturday night! I'll be watching and cheering my ass off, just like tonight! It is 0541 EDT and I am going to bed. What a great night. Nugs kick ass, and so did my little buddies in mainland Japan. Sake is gone (wow, had that little bottle since '94). Too cool! Night all! (Just for Hambone13).....

POST!

hambone13
05-11-2012, 02:57 AM
Sorry for the segue. Back to topic! Congrats to the Nugs! Now go and get it done on Saturday night! I'll be watching and cheering my ass off, just like tonight! It is 0541 EDT and I am going to bed. What a great night. Nugs kick ass, and so did my little buddies in mainland Japan. Sake is gone (wow, had that little bottle since '94). Too cool! Night all! (Just for Hambone13).....

POST!

Honestly, I think we need to head towards going live. If you know the Gunny Murphy, this story is crazy to connect over.

hambone13
05-11-2012, 05:40 AM
MSG was a b****. Got nothing but love for anyone who made it through that horse ****. I put it on the same level as Yankee Whites at 8th & I and Drill Instructor Duty. I gave it serious consideration as I had hook ups I developed during my implementation tour and through my Dad that could have gotten me on the path. The way things shook out for me was the Recon route. Same deal, really. The difference was, I could use all of the things I already knew in the data side (not so much with MSG as most of that was handled by state dept pukes), and I could also utilize more of the skill set I already had coming in as a shooter (Dad taught us the Marine Corps Way in marksmanship at about 6 years old). No regrets, but I will say that had I gone MSG, I would have probably retired from the service instead of getting out when I did. Recon is a b**** on the joints!

Interestingly enough, I had some Recon moments as well with 3rd LSB as a 1371 out of the rock during the evacuation of the PI during my time. Seriously, you and I need to hook up live. We'd have a ton laughs. Pretty sure we chewed some of the same dirt. Especially if you know Gunny Jorge'. He and I spent a bit of time going to the Air Force games down in Colorado Springs.

Kaylore
05-11-2012, 06:47 AM
Props to the Nuggets...they made their adjustments in containing our bigs. Bynum and Gasol are not doing well all of a sudden. Still waiting on Mike Brown to make an adjustment...he sucks as a coach.

It doesn't seem like the Lakers take him seriously. Tall order taking over for Phil Jackson.

RhymesayersDU
05-11-2012, 07:57 AM
I've almost always appreciated your posts, cheers. What was the bail-out rate like? Hastings was saying that even when we were up 25+ in the middle of the 4th, the seats were still pretty much full. Where where you? What was your impression of the "end of game" enthusiasm?

Well it turned into a party once they took Kobe out, which was like with 6 minutes left? We left with 2 minutes remaining to hit the bars in LoDo. All I can speak for is myself; it's not that I was "scared" per se, but it's the NBA and you have Kobe Bryant on the other side, we just saw him get white hot two nights ago, so as the 4th went on (before Kobe was taken out) I was still super into it, chanting, etc, I wanted the Nuggies to keep pouring it on, etc. Because you don't want a 20 point lead to turn to 13, etc.

Easily the best crowd I've ever been a part of in the Pepsi Center. I'm borderline horse today, everybody screaming and chanting the entire game. THAT is what a playoff crowd is supposed to be.

spdirty
05-11-2012, 08:34 AM
Ugh, nuggets fans and radio hosts, even barkley and kenny the jet riding the nuggets wave kind of assuming and predicting that the Nuggets roll game 7. I hate that.

Don't know what kind of impact metta world war will have.

They still have Kobe.

If Bynum reverts to Game 1 form it will be freaking tough.

Will the moment be too big for the nuggets?

Gonna need to keep hitting those 3s. Harrington needs to start hitting.

Won't know until tomorrow morning who will get the referee assignment. And yes, pull your heads out and know that that does have an impact.

But man this team is fun. Right up there with the '84, '94, and '09 teams. Hope they make magic happen Saturday.

Jason in LA
05-11-2012, 08:39 AM
It's just sick that any Lakers fan doesn't acknowledge how ridiculous the calls against anyone playing you is. Those dd and travel calls could have been made by my grandmother but the NBA doesn't want the Lakers getting embarrassed even when they play like ****. 9 out of 10 players in the league would have been ejected for that clothes-line to Faried. That was ridiculous especially considering he was being "high/lowed" by two players. Then, Kobe was still b****in'. Ridiculous.

Conspiracy!

http://katcompass.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/conspiracies.jpg

Jason in LA
05-11-2012, 08:41 AM
It's not a conspiracy. Donaghy admitted to it. David Stern and the NBA Referees are a joke.

If you let the players play, this is what you get.

GAME 7 - GO NUGGETS

So, the only way that the Lakers can beat the Nuggets is if the game is rigged? Come on son!

Jason in LA
05-11-2012, 08:53 AM
All conspiracy jokes aside, Bynum is a joke. I'm totally done with that guy and I'm hoping that the Lakers can unload him. He's been able to stick around because he's supposed to be the future of the franchise, but once Kobe is gone, I don't see how they think that they can get to the next set of titles with him as the guy.

And Gasol is pretty much done. He finally became an All Star, got a lot of credit for being a huge part of the title teams, and now he's either mailing it in, or he just got really old really quick.

Before the trade deadline I didn't think that it would be smart to trade both of those guys for Dwight Howard. Ah, I take that back. I don't think the Magic would want any part of that deal now.

As for Game 7, I'll take the Lakers. And I'm pretty sure this thread is going to implode. Some of you Nugget fans are already building in your excuse. Conspiracy!

RhymesayersDU
05-11-2012, 08:53 AM
So, the only way that the Lakers can beat the Nuggets is if the game is rigged? Come on son!

Don't listen to these kooks.

spdirty
05-11-2012, 09:07 AM
So, the only way that the Lakers can beat the Nuggets is if the game is rigged? Come on son!

Not the only way, but if its close down the stretch, are you gonna deny that the Lakers will get ALL the calls?

I understand how annoying it is for you Laker fans. But its also maddening when it is assumed, even like its no big deal, just what to expect, by nearly everyone, including many mainstream national media personalities, that in a situation like this, one team will get favorable calls over another team. Simply because of where they play, who they are, or the market they play in.

But we're all just conspiracy kooks I guess.

bfoflcommish
05-11-2012, 09:31 AM
So, the only way that the Lakers can beat the Nuggets is if the game is rigged? Come on son!

so Kobe throws gallo, no call. Kobe practically kills faried takes an hour to call flagrant...you really dont believe Lakers get calls the others team dont get?

RhymesayersDU
05-11-2012, 09:44 AM
I have never seen a bigger group of whiners than right here in this thread. Stop making excuses.

bfoflcommish
05-11-2012, 09:54 AM
I have never seen a bigger group of whiners than right here in this thread. Stop making excuses.

no excuses at all, just find it funny when a fan of a team who gets BLATANT callc or non calls wants to say there is no favortism.

spdirty
05-11-2012, 09:59 AM
I have never seen a bigger group of whiners than right here in this thread. Stop making excuses.

Are you assuming that game 7 is gonna get called straight up down the middle?

Jason in LA
05-11-2012, 10:25 AM
Either the IQ level is dropping here, or some of you are just getting caught up in the moment and getting carried away. I mean, some of you are putting way too much on it. Hell, the Nuggets won and there is still complaining. Sounds like you all are preparing for a Game 7 loss. Almost like you see it coming.

spdirty
05-11-2012, 10:33 AM
Either the IQ level is dropping here, or some of you are just getting caught up in the moment and getting carried away. I mean, some of you are putting way too much on it. Hell, the Nuggets won and there is still complaining. Sounds like you all are preparing for a Game 7 loss. Almost like you see it coming.

I'll check the referee assignment tomorrow morning and that will tell a lot as to what kind of game to expect. Wish we could get Joey Crawford again but that won't happen since he already did game 5. But I'm expecting Salvatore, Javie, or Bavetta.

Jason in LA
05-11-2012, 10:51 AM
Does anybody recognize this park in Denver?

http://birtherthinktank.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/conspiracy.jpg

Flex Gunmetal
05-11-2012, 11:48 AM
Some of us still remember 02 Kings series.

24champ
05-11-2012, 12:17 PM
It doesn't seem like the Lakers take him seriously. Tall order taking over for Phil Jackson.

They don't take him seriously because Brown doesn't have anything to counter Karl's adjustments. Lakers have gotten by on talent, not coaching...in this series you see Karl absolutely owning Brown in the coaching department. I wanted the Lakers to sign Adelman, for his experience and X's and O's.

RhymesayersDU
05-11-2012, 12:18 PM
Are you assuming that game 7 is gonna get called straight up down the middle?

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: I guess it depends on what you mean as "down the middle." Do home teams get calls? Yeah, they do. This might surprise you, but even our beloved Nuggets get calls at the Pepsi Center. It happens in basketball from high school to the NBA. It is what it is. So if you're going to complain about it, there's nothing I can say to stop you. Will Kobe Bryant get a call? Probably. But so did Jordan before him, and so did X star before Jordan.

WITH THAT SAID, if you really think that David Stern has mandated that the Lakers win, or that this is rigged like a glorified WWF, then I completely and vehemently disagree. That's kind of the issue with this discussion for me. There's a difference between bad officiating and rigged officiating. A BIG difference. You want to say the officiating in the NBA is bad? Sure, go for it. And I'd agree to a certain extent. There's a lot of room for improvement. But it's not rigged.

I'm personally of the belief of two statements: (1) bad officiating usually goes both ways, i.e., the Nuggs will get called on a bad foul, but so will the Lakers at some point, and (2) the game absolutely 100% is not rigged in any way, shape, or form.

RhymesayersDU
05-11-2012, 12:20 PM
Either the IQ level is dropping here, or some of you are just getting caught up in the moment and getting carried away. I mean, some of you are putting way too much on it. Hell, the Nuggets won and there is still complaining. Sounds like you all are preparing for a Game 7 loss. Almost like you see it coming.

It's sad because Nuggets fans should just be happy to be here. This is a very young team, and we've taken a good Lakers team to a game 7. I consider this series a big success, and a potential stepping-stone for this team.

LA will probably win in Game 7. It's why you fight for home-court advantage. But that's OK. This Nuggets team is on the upswing. There's absolutely zero reason for a Nuggets fan to complain about anything. Last night I got to witness in person my team play potentially the best they've ever played, and it was a blast. I'm SO happy with these guys, again, there's no reason to be upset.

Rolandftw
05-11-2012, 12:32 PM
It's amazing to see how the team has responded from being down 3-1. Even if they lose game 7, it's great playoff experience for our young players.

Far as reffing goes, Gallinari went to the Italian media and talked about how he thinks the Lakers get more calls. I think he's correct, but not because they're the Lakers but more so because they have star players and those players tend to get a few more calls.

Denver needs to get up early on the Lakers. If they can jump out to a 8-10 point lead early, there's a good chance there's boos early. Quite a difference between being booed on the road or at home.

orangemonkey
05-11-2012, 12:33 PM
It's sad because Nuggets fans should just be happy to be here. This is a very young team, and we've taken a good Lakers team to a game 7. I consider this series a big success, and a potential stepping-stone for this team.

LA will probably win in Game 7. It's why you fight for home-court advantage. But that's OK. This Nuggets team is on the upswing. There's absolutely zero reason for a Nuggets fan to complain about anything. Last night I got to witness in person my team play potentially the best they've ever played, and it was a blast. I'm SO happy with these guys, again, there's no reason to be upset.

Yep, yep. Great post. Still think we have a solid shot at owning the Lakers tomorrow night. So excited for this game!

bombay
05-11-2012, 01:36 PM
The lakers are nothing special. Kobe is still a great shooter and competitor, but isn't much of a threat to take the ball to the hole anymore, or as good defensively as he used to be. Pau is soft as Marcus Camby, and Bynum shows up occasionally. Whatsisname the thug who's coming back has lost his athleticism, and probably won't do much but reduce Hill's minutes and rebounding ability.

Beating them on the road would be an accomplishment for a team like the Nuggets, who are young and have very little experience playing together, or playoff experience, but if la advances, OKC will likely sweep them.

broncswin
05-11-2012, 01:42 PM
The lakers are nothing special. Kobe is still a great shooter and competitor, but isn't much of a threat to take the ball to the hole anymore, or as good defensively as he used to be. Pau is soft as Marcus Camby, and Bynum shows up occasionally. Whatsisname the thug who's coming back has lost his athleticism, and probably won't do much but reduce Hill's minutes and rebounding ability.

Beating them on the road would be an accomplishment for a team like the Nuggets, who are young and have very little experience playing together, or playoff experience, but if la advances, OKC will likely sweep them.

Exactly what I was thinking...:wiggle:

BroncoMan4ever
05-11-2012, 01:56 PM
no excuses at all, just find it funny when a fan of a team who gets BLATANT callc or non calls wants to say there is no favortism.

Anyone else on the court pulled that hack job at Faried that Kobe pulled; would have finished the game in the locker room

BroncoLifer
05-11-2012, 02:15 PM
Some of us still remember 02 Kings series.

And the Heat-Mavs Finals 2006 -- the only time I've ever thought that a major sporting event I was watching might actually be fixed.

bombay
05-11-2012, 03:10 PM
Man, the espn clowns are slobbering all over whatsisname the thug coming back for the lakers. He's going to change everything! One of them actually said 'keep hope alive!. Really? Keep your rooting interest to yourselves.

RhymesayersDU
05-11-2012, 04:51 PM
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7908766/a-rare-interview-former-no-1-overall-pick-greg-oden-injury-plagued-career

Interview with Greg Oden, found it to be a very interesting read.

OrangeCrush2724
05-11-2012, 06:51 PM
MVP! MVP! MVP! King James has been the MVP 3 times in last 4 years.

oubronco
05-11-2012, 06:56 PM
MVP! MVP! MVP! King James has been the MVP 3 times in last 4 years.

How many rings does he have?

DENVERDUI55
05-11-2012, 06:59 PM
Yawn........Thuggies nor the Lakers will do anything after round 1. That being said go thuggets.

OrangeCrush2724
05-11-2012, 07:26 PM
How many rings does he have?

Dude, the hate on Lebron is getting old. The guy was a beast this year. Too sad you can't be just impressed with a guy who's player efficiency rating matched Jordan's.

oubronco
05-11-2012, 07:30 PM
Dude, the hate on Lebron is getting old. The guy was a beast this year. Too sad you can't be just impressed with a guy who's player efficiency rating matched Jordan's.

I really hate it when anyone is compared to Jordan and James couldn't hold Jordans Jock

OrangeCrush2724
05-11-2012, 07:35 PM
I really hate it when anyone is compared to Jordan and James couldn't hold Jordans Jock

Well its a fact. Not an opinion. The PER matched Jordan's (or was close) 27.91 to 27.24. Not saying he is better or in the same sentence as Jordan.

MVP! MVP! MVP!

RhymesayersDU
05-11-2012, 07:39 PM
I love me some LeBron. We all know "The Decision" was a horrific decision, but he's amazing to watch on-court.

OrangeCrush2724
05-11-2012, 07:44 PM
I love me some LeBron. We all know "The Decision" was a horrific decision, but he's amazing to watch on-court.

I agree. Defensively I haven't seen a guy who can cover all 5 positions like that.

Jason in LA
05-11-2012, 08:15 PM
Some of us still remember 02 Kings series.


People tend to remember the parts of the 02 series that supports the argument that the league is fixed to favor big market teams such as the Lakers.

People always point to the 4th period of Game 6, when the Lakers got a lot of calls in what was a close game at that time. But most people fail to remember Game 5 in Sacramento, when the Kings got every call in the first half to help them build a 20+ point lead. I was pretty pissed watching that game. The Kings had like 20 free throw attempts to the Lakers 1 in the first half. There was also one other game earlier in that series that the Kings got a ton of calls.

There has never been an argument about the refs in Game 7, in Sacramento, where the Lakers won. The better team won that series.

When the popular teams, such as the Lakers, gets more calls, it's fixed. When the other team gets more calls, no problem.

Jason in LA
05-11-2012, 08:22 PM
Dude, the hate on Lebron is getting old. The guy was a beast this year. Too sad you can't be just impressed with a guy who's player efficiency rating matched Jordan's.

Actually, the LeBron hate hasn't gotten old at all. I'm hoping for another meltdown, those are pretty fun. I mean, some folks get creative with the photoshop. ;D

Jason in LA
05-11-2012, 08:26 PM
This Grizzlies/Clippers game is pretty intense. Go Grizzlies! I would say Beat LA, but the Clippers haven't done anything of note to earn that chant. It would be disrespectful to the Lakers, and to the Dodgers too. ;D

RhymesayersDU
05-11-2012, 08:49 PM
I hope the conspiracy theorists saw the bad foul called on Chris Paul, the superstar from the big market. That was a clean block. Like I said, bad calls generally go both ways.

Tombstone RJ
05-11-2012, 08:53 PM
I'll be watching the Nugz/Lakers game tomorrow nite. If the Nugz want to prove something tomorrow nite is the time to do it...

SoCalBronco
05-11-2012, 08:57 PM
I hope the conspiracy theorists saw the bad foul called on Chris Paul, the superstar from the big market. That was a clean block. Like I said, bad calls generally go both ways.

Except that for most of the fourth quarter, all the key calls were going against the Clippers.

maven
05-11-2012, 08:58 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/1966.png&w=350&h=254MVP! MVP! MVP! King James has been the MVP 3 times in last 4 years.

Will follow up his MVP with a MVP in The Finals and a chip.

Jason in LA
05-11-2012, 09:00 PM
I hope the conspiracy theorists saw the bad foul called on Chris Paul, the superstar from the big market. That was a clean block. Like I said, bad calls generally go both ways.


Yeah, that was a bad call.

I'm pretty sure the league wants the bigger market with Blake Griffin and Chris Paul to advance. Looks like that ref didn't get the memo.

SoCalBronco
05-11-2012, 09:00 PM
Maven, what's your answer to Jason's question?

maven
05-11-2012, 09:02 PM
http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-419kdh.gif

maven
05-11-2012, 09:12 PM
The Heat will crush the Pacers. The Heat will contain Indiana's size. MVP gonna take ova. Heat in 5.

OrangeCrush2724
05-11-2012, 09:25 PM
Actually, the LeBron hate hasn't gotten old at all. I'm hoping for another meltdown, those are pretty fun. I mean, some folks get creative with the photoshop. ;D

You mean the same dickless people who aren't here now that there teams aren't in the playoffs?

Jason in LA
05-12-2012, 07:06 AM
Maven, what's your answer to Jason's question?


There are two questions that Maven is avoiding.

spdirty
05-12-2012, 08:08 AM
Wow, Stern isn't going to the old bag of tricks tonight. We might get a fair shake.

http://www.phillyref.com/basketball/nbarefs/summerrefs/derrick_stafford.jpg

http://www.basketball-refs.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/mike_callahan-200x300.jpg

http://www.nbastuffer.com/charts/5.jpg

RhymesayersDU
05-12-2012, 08:16 AM
But if lose, don't worry, it's still totally Stern's fault.

SoonerBronco
05-12-2012, 09:18 AM
Can the Thunder beat LA?

Let's revisit this...What do you think Maven....???Ha!

stopgap
05-12-2012, 10:08 AM
I have never seen a bigger group of whiners than right here in this thread. Stop making excuses.

It's nice to see that you are trying to be diplomatic about the whistles that tend to favor Stern's 'cool list' but I have long been resigned to the fact that the league is not called fairly.

I am predicting a couple of whistles that will keep any chance of Denver gaining momentum in check. They will be ticky-tack fouls. Pau may bring out the flop for this one.

I'm happy for the Nuggs anyway as I did not really expect a game seven. Thursday night was awesome.

crush17
05-12-2012, 10:49 AM
Cant friggin wait for this game! Lets Go NUGGETS!

Dexter
05-12-2012, 12:07 PM
But if lose, don't worry, it's still totally Stern's fault.



I'm not a conspiracy theorist but you act like there is no room for criticism of officials or the NBA.

The lack of parity alone in the NBA is proof of a weak product. With that said I'll be cheering on the Nuggets, and if they lose, probably the next smaller market team to go all the way.

RhymesayersDU
05-12-2012, 01:40 PM
I'm not a conspiracy theorist but you act like there is no room for criticism of officials or the NBA.

That's not true. It's why I said this earlier in the thread:

WITH THAT SAID, if you really think that David Stern has mandated that the Lakers win, or that this is rigged like a glorified WWF, then I completely and vehemently disagree. That's kind of the issue with this discussion for me. There's a difference between bad officiating and rigged officiating. A BIG difference. You want to say the officiating in the NBA is bad? Sure, go for it. And I'd agree to a certain extent. There's a lot of room for improvement. But it's not rigged.

I'm personally of the belief of two statements: (1) bad officiating usually goes both ways, i.e., the Nuggs will get called on a bad foul, but so will the Lakers at some point, and (2) the game absolutely 100% is not rigged in any way, shape, or form.

I have no problem critisizing referees for poor calls. But every time a missed call goes against the Nuggets, people here instantly go to the "well it's rigged for the big market" card. The fact is, the Nuggets are beneficiaries of bad calls sometimes as well.

Again, the refs make mistakes, and they should be held accountable for those mistakes. But there's a big difference between saying games are fixed and saying the officials are bad. People here always go right to "fixed."

stopgap
05-12-2012, 02:24 PM
The should be held accountable but they are not.

I saw an NBA ad with Melo advertising the upcoming playoffs (even though everyone knows they weren't going to get to the big dance).

I laughed to myself thinking that commercial would never have have happened if he still wore powder blue.

I'm not saying the league is 'fixed' but there sure is a lot of favoritism for the larger market teams ($$$$$$).... Spurs being the only exception.

OrangeSe7en
05-12-2012, 03:07 PM
Well its a fact. Not an opinion. The PER matched Jordan's (or was close) 27.91 to 27.24. Not saying he is better or in the same sentence as Jordan.

MVP! MVP! MVP!

It's also a fact that they changed the rules about 6 or so years ago to make it easier for perimeter playrers offensively.

That would make your comparison stupid and pointless since it's apples and oranges.

OrangeSe7en
05-12-2012, 03:20 PM
I agree. Defensively I haven't seen a guy who can cover all 5 positions like that.

Pippen could do it.

Let me guess, you started watching basketball in 2006.

OrangeSe7en
05-12-2012, 03:24 PM
That's not true. It's why I said this earlier in the thread:



I have no problem critisizing referees for poor calls. But every time a missed call goes against the Nuggets, people here instantly go to the "well it's rigged for the big market" card. The fact is, the Nuggets are beneficiaries of bad calls sometimes as well.
Again, the refs make mistakes, and they should be held accountable for those mistakes. But there's a big difference between saying games are fixed and saying the officials are bad. People here always go right to "fixed."

Perhaps but that doesn't mean every things even because both teams get calls. How, when, and how many are a big part of this. There's a matter of degree here. It's not, "do both teams have calls go against them? If so, then shut up" either.

bombay
05-12-2012, 04:35 PM
People tend to remember the parts of the 02 series that supports the argument that the league is fixed to favor big market teams such as the Lakers.

People always point to the 4th period of Game 6, when the Lakers got a lot of calls in what was a close game at that time. But most people fail to remember Game 5 in Sacramento, when the Kings got every call in the first half to help them build a 20+ point lead. I was pretty pissed watching that game. The Kings had like 20 free throw attempts to the Lakers 1 in the first half. There was also one other game earlier in that series that the Kings got a ton of calls.

There has never been an argument about the refs in Game 7, in Sacramento, where the Lakers won. The better team won that series.

When the popular teams, such as the Lakers, gets more calls, it's fixed. When the other team gets more calls, no problem.


A conspiracy against your little boys, eh. Man, you do a lot of crying and blubbering.

TDmvp
05-12-2012, 04:37 PM
GO CELTICS !!! ... and nugs .

RhymesayersDU
05-12-2012, 06:27 PM
GETTING JACKED. About to get a cab downtown to binge drink and watch the boys.

The two best words in the English language have been and always will be: GAME SEVEN.

TDmvp
05-12-2012, 07:29 PM
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ-bo_Yn-rjjVT7jTGhIxcIadLjFeArkzA6sIF-aCu4brXPWm6HzTJOm84MYg

Great win ... Rondo and KG was unreal.

SoCalBronco
05-12-2012, 07:35 PM
Hopefully the Nuggets can pull off the shocker and beat the Lakers. I highly doubt it, but it would be very nice to see.

Beat L.A.

Punisher
05-12-2012, 07:41 PM
The Sixers are showing flashes of a Championship Team they're a star away from a ring

Dutch
05-12-2012, 07:42 PM
Fridge stocked with beers - check
plenty of smokes - check
wife crashed for the night so no distractions - check
wound up like an eight day clock - check

ready to go........
get-'em Nugs. Run 'em out their own barn and send the beautiful people home early and crying!

spdirty
05-12-2012, 07:59 PM
Great start. Was worried that storm would come and we'd be down 10+ and need to regroup. Lawson is still hot, which we'll need.

spdirty
05-12-2012, 08:01 PM
****in Blake.

TDmvp
05-12-2012, 08:08 PM
http://th57.photobucket.com/albums/g221/mr_borat/Gifs/th_thnolakers.gif

spdirty
05-12-2012, 08:19 PM
My superstition of the night. If the Rockies Beat LA, the Nuggets will Beat LA.

1-1 bottom 8, come on Rox!

Jason in LA
05-12-2012, 08:27 PM
A conspiracy against your little boys, eh. Man, you do a lot of crying and blubbering.

What crying have I done? Nugget fans have been crying about the refs every game, even after wins, and you say that I'm doing a lot of crying.

Like I said, the IQ level in this thread has dropped, because your point made no sense. It's like you're reading a different thread or something.

Jason in LA
05-12-2012, 08:29 PM
Steve Blake is showing up in a big way. And finally Gasol is playing basketball.

Tyrell Jones
05-12-2012, 08:35 PM
Nuggets win tonight.

Jason in LA
05-12-2012, 08:43 PM
Nuggets win tonight.

You just make a call to Ms. Cleo? ;D

Jason in LA
05-12-2012, 08:46 PM
Lakers defense shows up, and so does Gasol!

spdirty
05-12-2012, 08:47 PM
Really hope mozgov and Harrington get limited minutes the 2nd half...they suck tonight.

bombay
05-12-2012, 08:56 PM
As poorly and sloppily as the Nuggets are playing, looks like they're going to do OKC a favor and give them the tired old lakers. Not that the Nuggets would have beaten OKC, but they would have had to expend a lot more energy, and possibly played an extra game or two.

HAT
05-12-2012, 08:57 PM
Really hope mozgov and Harrington get limited minutes the 2nd half...they suck

fixed

OrangeSe7en
05-12-2012, 09:00 PM
Gallinari needs to get it going. He's 1/6 with 3 pts. McGee also needs to do better than 2 pts.

Dutch
05-12-2012, 09:20 PM
Nugs can't hit a shot tonight to save themselves.

bombay
05-12-2012, 09:21 PM
The pace is all la, and the Nuggets aren't going to make headway shooting 3s, so this is over. Pretty good season for a lot of guy who didn't know each other at the beginning of the season. We've got size now, speed, aggressive post and interior play, and are really just lacking a consistant outside shooter who can get his own shot, but isn't a ball stopper. Can't be Carmelo.

A training camp together will help these guys, as will a year of experience, and even some decent playoff experience. Screw you Kisla.

All in all, a decent year for the young guys. It'll be fun to watch them develop.

broncswin
05-12-2012, 09:24 PM
**** the lakers and Kobe...cant wait till his Ass retires and the lake show goes to ****...signed bitter f-ing nuggets fan!!

bombay
05-12-2012, 09:27 PM
**** the lakers and Kobe...cant wait till his Ass retires and the lake show goes to ****...signed bitter f-ing nuggets fan!!

They're headed to the 2nd round slaughter just like last year, so not much to worry about. OKC will probably follow in Dallas' footsteps for last season, including sweeping the fakers and winning it all, making everyone happy in the process.

RhymesayersDU
05-12-2012, 09:28 PM
The pace is all la, and the Nuggets aren't going to make headway shooting 3s, so this is over. Pretty good season for a lot of guy who didn't know each other at the beginning of the season. We've got size now, speed, aggressive post and interior play, and are really just lacking a consistant outside shooter who can get his own shot, but isn't a ball stopper. Can't be Carmelo.

A training camp together will help these guys, as will a year of experience, and even some decent playoff experience. Screw you Kisla.

All in all, a decent year for the young guys. It'll be fun to watch them develop.

Agreed here.

TDmvp
05-12-2012, 09:31 PM
Come on NUGGS!!!

OrangeSe7en
05-12-2012, 09:32 PM
For the past few minutes Lawson has been keeping the Nuggets in it (or putting them back in it). Someone else needs to get it going.

TDmvp
05-12-2012, 09:33 PM
F World Peace ...

bombay
05-12-2012, 09:36 PM
I know la sucks, but they can't really give away a 16 point, 3rd quarter game 7 lead, can they? They suck even harder than I thought they did, just for letting the Nuggets back in, win or lose.

OrangeSe7en
05-12-2012, 09:39 PM
I know la sucks, but they can't really give away a 16 point, 3rd quarter game 7 lead, can they? They suck even harder than I thought they did, just for letting the Nuggets back in, win or lose.

That's the NBA. Teams make runs. It's commonplace.

spdirty
05-12-2012, 09:45 PM
Son of a bitch I love this team!!! Close this ****er out and send the pretty people home in tears!!!!! Come on!

RhymesayersDU
05-12-2012, 09:50 PM
I know la sucks, but they can't really give away a 16 point, 3rd quarter game 7 lead, can they? They suck even harder than I thought they did, just for letting the Nuggets back in, win or lose.

I'm curious to see what happens to LA when Kobe retires. Gasol clearly can't lead them. It'll be interesting to see is Bynum can mature and be that leader.

spdirty
05-12-2012, 09:57 PM
My hearts beatin 100 mph right now.

bombay
05-12-2012, 10:00 PM
I'm curious to see what happens to LA when Kobe retires. Gasol clearly can't lead them. It'll be interesting to see is Bynum can mature and be that leader.


Gasol is 2-3 years past his peak. Bynum can't play a mature game with Bryant in ihis ear, so his post-kobe experience will be worse. Can't really see how they avoid a rebuild.

spdirty
05-12-2012, 10:12 PM
Why is Harrington even in there? He's 1 for 1,000,000 from 3 tonight. Gonna shoot em right out of this ****ing ****ing game.

maven
05-12-2012, 10:14 PM
Don't worry Nuggets fans, MVP will take care of the Lakers if they make The Finals.

http://a.espncdn.com/media/motion/2012/0512/dm_120512_nba_lebron_presser.jpg

spdirty
05-12-2012, 10:14 PM
Lakers will avoid a rebuild by signing 2 or 3 big name free agents and trading gasol and, I don't know, the last guy on their bench for Dwight Howard, or some ****.

Orange4Life
05-12-2012, 10:16 PM
Damnit come on Nuggs. SOB

spdirty
05-12-2012, 10:16 PM
Well at least the pretty people had some puckered assholes. Thunder will beat em in 5.

maven
05-12-2012, 10:17 PM
Let's revisit this...What do you think Maven....???Ha!

Thunder should easily beat the Lakers.

OrangeSe7en
05-12-2012, 10:18 PM
At least the Nuggets went out on their shields. Down 3-1, no one would have expected the series would be at this point. When one team has a size advantage like the Lakers have, eventually the shots aren't going to be falling from outside. The Nuggets have been able to manufacture points because of Lawson though.

RhymesayersDU
05-12-2012, 10:18 PM
So we can agree the officiating was fine is this game, right?

OrangeSe7en
05-12-2012, 10:20 PM
So we can agree the officiating was fine is this game, right?

At whom is this directed?

spdirty
05-12-2012, 10:20 PM
So we can agree the officiating was fine is this game, right?

No it wasn't. Once we went up by 4, the Lakers got all the calls. Game is replaying on altitude at 12, watch it from that point on.

It was expected.

bombay
05-12-2012, 10:21 PM
Twelve seconds left in game 7, and la still has bryant, bynum, gasol, world piss, and some other guy on the court. Guess they had to fight for it.


Go OKC. Take 'em down in 4.

The officiating always goes la's way, who cares? Although they may have just separated McGee's shoulder, and that might matter. No foul, of course. When bryant goes, though, most of the on-court breaks go with him.

RhymesayersDU
05-12-2012, 10:21 PM
Man, Stern must have called them on their blackberries during a time out.

broncswin
05-12-2012, 10:22 PM
So we can agree the officiating was fine is this game, right?

No..but the nuggs did get some calls when the lakers were up big...normal though

spdirty
05-12-2012, 10:23 PM
Man, Stern must have called them on their blackberries during a time out.

What do you think happens if Artest isn't in there?

Season's over and your acting like a relieved, once again arrogant Laker fan.

RhymesayersDU
05-12-2012, 10:24 PM
Wow, still not coming off the conspiracy theories huh.

I wonder why some of you even watch.

Jason in LA
05-12-2012, 10:24 PM
No it wasn't. Once we went up by 4, the Lakers got all the calls. Game is replaying on altitude at 12, watch it from that point on.

It was expected.


Man you need to shut up. There weren't any horrible calls.

RhymesayersDU
05-12-2012, 10:25 PM
What do you think happens if Artest isn't in there?

Season's over and your acting like a relieved, once again arrogant Laker fan.

So now the suspension is the conspiracy?

spdirty
05-12-2012, 10:26 PM
Wow, still not coming off the conspiracy theories huh.

I wonder why some of you even watch.

Enjoy watching your favorite team win game 3 against the Thunder.

Dexter
05-12-2012, 10:27 PM
Knocked out of the playoffs in the first round 8 of the last 9 years. Really fun to be a Nugget fan. What a fabulous product to watch.

I guess there's always next year, when we get knocked out again by the darlings of the NBA

RhymesayersDU
05-12-2012, 10:28 PM
Enjoy watching your favorite team win game 3 against the Thunder.

Oh, now we're really getting good.

spdirty
05-12-2012, 10:29 PM
So now the suspension is the conspiracy?

No, it was Stern worried about giving a guy from yours and his favorite team a lengthy suspension right before the playoffs.

Jason in LA
05-12-2012, 10:29 PM
Twelve seconds left in game 7, and la still has bryant, bynum, gasol, world piss, and some other guy on the court. Guess they had to fight for it.


Go OKC. Take 'em down in 4.

The officiating always goes la's way, who cares? Although they may have just separated McGee's shoulder, and that might matter. No foul, of course. When bryant goes, though, most of the on-court breaks go with him.

That didn't look like a hard a hard foul against McGee, so I'm not sure why he was in so much pain. And I thought there was a foul called. I was only halfway paying attention. I'm getting dressed. Time to go out. That's how we do it in LA.

broncswin
05-12-2012, 10:30 PM
Wow, still not coming off the conspiracy theories huh.

I wonder why some of you even watch.

Put down your super card fan and realize superstars get the calls...kiss my Ass on why do I even watch!!

SoCalBronco
05-12-2012, 10:32 PM
That didn't look like a hard a hard foul against McGee, so I'm not sure why he was in so much pain. And I thought there was a foul called. I was only halfway paying attention. I'm getting dressed. Time to go out. That's how we do it in LA.

Enjoy it while it lasts.....OKC is going to kick the **** out of the Lakers.

RhymesayersDU
05-12-2012, 10:32 PM
HEY GUYS I'M A LAKERS FAN AND I HAVE DAVID STERN'S PERSONAL PHONE NUMBER. I CALLED HIM AND HE TOLD ME IT WAS ALL GOOD, LAKERS GOING ALL THE WAY, OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN SENT A LENGTHY MEMO.

Dexter
05-12-2012, 10:32 PM
Put down your super card fan and realize superstars get the calls...kiss my Ass on why do I even watch!!


I've been asking myself this question for years. Every year I get my hopes up we'll beat LA. And every year, the announcers rub it in as we lose to them.

Faried and Lawson are so much fun to watch, and the Nuggets are a young talented team so I'll keep on watching. But can we ever beat the Goliath that is superstar power and preferential treatment to big market teams such as LA? Doubtful. Bad parity by the nba is why the NFL will always be king.

spdirty
05-12-2012, 10:32 PM
Knocked out of the playoffs in the first round 8 of the last 9 years. Really fun to be a Nugget fan. What a fabulous product to watch.

I guess there's always next year, when we get knocked out again by the darlings of the NBA

Yeah, well, I remember the lean years after Bickerstaff ****ed this team and made them the joke of the league for 7 years. I'll take 9 straight playoff appearances over that anytime. And with what I think is a top 5 GM in the league, the future looks bright for this team.

Dexter
05-12-2012, 10:34 PM
Yeah, well, I remember the lean years after Bickerstaff ****ed this team and made them the joke of the league for 7 years. I'll take 9 straight playoff appearances over that anytime. And with what I think is a top 5 GM in the league, the future looks bright for this team.

Its all or nothing for me really. Making the playoffs is great, and I'm proud of this young team. But losing in the first round really gets old.

broncswin
05-12-2012, 10:37 PM
I've been asking myself this question for years. Every year I get my hopes up we'll beat LA. And every year, the announcers rub it in as we lose to them.

Faried and Lawson are so much fun to watch, and the Nuggets are a young talented team so I'll keep on watching. But can we ever beat the Goliath that is superstar power and preferential treatment to big market teams such as LA? Doubtful. Bad parity is why the NFL will always be king.

It hurts..some people think this is a stepping stone to next year...God that gets old..I feel like a cheifs fan!!

maven
05-12-2012, 10:40 PM
Congrats to the Nuggets. Fine young season. Quick thoughts.

Since Faried us undersized, he better develop a 15 footer.

McGee needs to be signed and continue his development.

Lawson continue to improve the J.

Dano needs to step up. Now. Needs to improve all over.

Afflalo needs to be replaced and sent to the bench.

Miller played well, but Denver needs a real SG out there.

Don't worry Nuggets fans, the Heat will take care of the rest.

RhymesayersDU
05-12-2012, 10:42 PM
Agreed on most points except Afflalo.

SoCalBronco
05-12-2012, 10:43 PM
I wonder if Rhyme is in a relationship with David Stern?



/kidding

:)

Dexter
05-12-2012, 10:44 PM
Agreed on most points except Afflalo.

WTF is going on with Gallo? He's looked so lost this season. And he was the one player I was so excited about until now.

broncswin
05-12-2012, 10:54 PM
WTF is going on with Gallo? He's looked so lost this season. And he was the one player I was so excited about until now.

Too slow..inconsistent..weak for his size..a big dissapointment.......afflolo is a stud though, works his Ass off...very happy with him

pricejj
05-12-2012, 11:01 PM
What happened to boxing out? There is no way Gasol and Bynum should be allowed to stand around the rim playing tip drill. Nuggets deserved to lose.

spdirty
05-12-2012, 11:03 PM
Its all or nothing for me really. Making the playoffs is great, and I'm proud of this young team. But losing in the first round really gets old.

I know it gets old. But the NBA is the NBA. Not gonna get a big shot superstar to sign here or take a trade and sign here long term and get to take the easy route to being championship competitive. Look at it this way. I think Birdman is the only one left on this team from the '09 roster that got to the WCF...so basically they had to completely tear this team apart and rebuild it from the ground up. They have trading pieces to get better. They're young. And you have to do it by developing the guys you draft. Masai Ujiri has had this job for I believe 2 years and I think he's done a stellar job. Still has a lot of work to do, but a hell of a young core.

I think you would be thrilled with this team and its future had the Nugs not made the playoffs the last couple years or so.

RhymesayersDU
05-12-2012, 11:18 PM
WTF is going on with Gallo? He's looked so lost this season. And he was the one player I was so excited about until now.

I'm not sure. This year was tough on him as he was out for 2 significant stretches with injury. So I'm going to assume/hope that was the issue, he couldn't get into a rhythm, etc.

We clearly need more from him. The guy is young (23 or 24 I believe) so he has room to grow. He needs to be the All-Star, he needs to be the guy going forward. Can he blossom into that, who knows.

Dexter
05-12-2012, 11:24 PM
I know it gets old. But the NBA is the NBA. Not gonna get a big shot superstar to sign here or take a trade and sign here long term and get to take the easy route to being championship competitive. Look at it this way. I think Birdman is the only one left on this team from the '09 roster that got to the WCF...so basically they had to completely tear this team apart and rebuild it from the ground up. They have trading pieces to get better. They're young. And you have to do it by developing the guys you draft. Masai Ujiri has had this job for I believe 2 years and I think he's done a stellar job. Still has a lot of work to do, but a hell of a young core.

I think you would be thrilled with this team and its future had the Nugs not made the playoffs the last couple years or so.

This is a good point. If you block out the last 8 years things look great. The one depressing thing about this team right now has to be Gallo. He just seems like one of those players that is going to tease you with potential, but never live up to it.

hambone13
05-12-2012, 11:38 PM
I'm not sure. This year was tough on him as he was out for 2 significant stretches with injury. So I'm going to assume/hope that was the issue, he couldn't get into a rhythm, etc.

We clearly need more from him. The guy is young (23 or 24 I believe) so he has room to grow. He needs to be the All-Star, he needs to be the guy going forward. Can he blossom into that, who knows.

I really like his game smarts and character but he's incredibly awkward with his paint work. When he starts driving to the basket, I pretty much just pray and I'm not even remotely religious. He potentially has the ugly dexterity that A. Miller has in the long term but he'll be called the ugly clever guy if he makes it that long.

hambone13
05-12-2012, 11:48 PM
Agreed on most points except Afflalo.

Agreed. Afflalo is one of our staples. He might be one of the only players we're actually building the team around. He's an amazing core defender and a class act who can occasionally get hot offensively. No personal offense but the rest of your post was so intelligent I almost have to call you a bit of an idiot for even mentioning AA in the light the OP did.

hambone13
05-12-2012, 11:55 PM
I know it gets old. But the NBA is the NBA. Not gonna get a big shot superstar to sign here or take a trade and sign here long term and get to take the easy route to being championship competitive. Look at it this way. I think Birdman is the only one left on this team from the '09 roster that got to the WCF...so basically they had to completely tear this team apart and rebuild it from the ground up. They have trading pieces to get better. They're young. And you have to do it by developing the guys you draft. Masai Ujiri has had this job for I believe 2 years and I think he's done a stellar job. Still has a lot of work to do, but a hell of a young core.

I think you would be thrilled with this team and its future had the Nugs not made the playoffs the last couple years or so.

Your thoughts bode an intelligent point which I believe is seated in something similar to the "Moneyball" theories. If the Nuggets could bring the college energy to the NBA and compete with a balanced team, even Stern would have to reconsider. He might just have an NFL caliber profit generating league under his thumb. Imagine that.

spdirty
05-12-2012, 11:56 PM
This is a good point. If you block out the last 8 years things look great. The one depressing thing about this team right now has to be Gallo. He just seems like one of those players that is going to tease you with potential, but never live up to it.

Yeah, right now I'd definitely say Gallo is tradable.

I'm confident Mcgee will get resigned. Excited to see the continued development of Lawson, Mcgee, and Faried.

hambone13
05-13-2012, 12:04 AM
Yeah, right now I'd definitely say Gallo is tradable.

I'm confident Mcgee will get resigned. Excited to see the continued development of Lawson, Mcgee, and Faried.

This is ridiculous. Gallo is too classy to seek a large contract given his performance. You sign him as a guy that promotes team play and work him in as a steady performer. He's the son of a coach. Keep him around and play him like a coach would.

spdirty
05-13-2012, 12:14 AM
This is ridiculous. Gallo is too classy to seek a large contract given his performance. You sign him as a guy that promotes team play and work him in as a steady performer. He's the son of a coach. Keep him around and play him like a coach would.

Let me clarify. When I said tradable, I didn't mean to say we need to try to trade him. But I don't think he is untouchable. Meaning don't trade him no matter what. I thought he was at the beginning of the season.

He had a real ****ty year. Now I understand injuries were part of that but he needs to step his **** up next year.

hambone13
05-13-2012, 12:22 AM
Let me clarify. When I said tradable, I didn't mean to say we need to try to trade him. But I don't think he is untouchable. Meaning don't trade him no matter what. I thought he was at the beginning of the season.

He had a real ****ty year. Now I understand injuries were part of that but he needs to step his **** up next year.

That's fair. My response/rant was most based on the fact that he was part of one of the coolest NBA teams I've ever seen assembled with the coach to make 'em competitive. If they play together for an extended enough period, in a non-premier city. I think we might have something there.....if for no other reason, they're a blast to support.

spdirty
05-13-2012, 12:26 AM
That's fair. My response/rant was most based on the fact that he was part of one of the coolest NBA teams I've ever seen assembled with the coach to make 'em competitive, if they play together for an extended enough period, in a non-premier city. I think we might have something there.....if for no other reason, they're a blast to support.

I'd be excited about next year if the only moves they make are to resign McGee and amnesty Bird. This team is freaking exciting.

hambone13
05-13-2012, 12:33 AM
I'd be excited about next year if the only moves they make are to resign McGee and amnesty Bird. This team is freaking exciting.

Well said. We use to need Bird's energy but now we have a rookie Manimal. Head into the draft with size, perimeter jump shooting and character in mind and see what happens. I like the look of that sort of future. If none of that happens, I still had a blast this year. The middle of the year was a bitch because it is the Nuggets but their finish was world class. I think GK has a lot to do with that. It would be cool to be a fan while he finishes his classy dream, be it possible.

RhymesayersDU
05-13-2012, 06:30 AM
I'd be excited about next year if the only moves they make are to resign McGee and amnesty Bird. This team is freaking exciting.

Why waste the amnesty on Bird? He's not not getting paid much, relatively. You keep the amnesty in your pocket for a big contract that turns out to be a mistake. For instance, they probably would have amnestied Nene at some point. They shoul give McGee the money and if he's not the guy they can amnesty him.

hambone13
05-13-2012, 07:47 AM
I didn't watch the interview with Kobe until this morning. I didn't think I could hate him any more than I do now. Wow, what an arrogant prick. He might as well have said he was the acting head coach......."5 championships"......"5 championships"......

-------Ironic that he was blessed with such comical ears because everyone is listening to such an irritating buffoon. He couldn't bear the quarks in MJ's ****. The alternate universe that he is king, reeks of ka-ka before the other personality kicks in to hear about it.

cutthemdown
05-13-2012, 09:56 AM
Meh Nuggets would have been swept if Lakers had World Peace all 7 games. You saw how easy it was for him to shut his man down last night. One of the best defenders in the game and the Lakers have to have him to compete with the better teams. They got lucky because the Nuggets aren't very good.

Paladin
05-13-2012, 10:01 AM
OKC will beat the Flakers.



(This message ws typed without the aid of Mrs. TOG's nipples.)

cutthemdown
05-13-2012, 10:11 AM
OKC will beat the Flakers.



(This message ws typed without the aid of Mrs. TOG's nipples.)

No way.

broncos-rock
05-13-2012, 10:37 AM
Lakers are getting swept by okc!

Jason in LA
05-13-2012, 10:53 AM
OKC will beat the Flakers.



(This message ws typed without the aid of Mrs. TOG's nipples.)

Wow, I'm surprised you weren't around for this series. I guess you didn't want to make silly predictions about the Lakers not being able to beat the Nuggets, and then run off and never owning up to being wrong. There seems to be a lot of that goinng on around here. (Maven)

oubronco
05-13-2012, 11:16 AM
Looking forward to a good series between the Lakers and OKC

I think the Thunder is to good and young and will be moving on to play the Spurs in the Western Finals

Thunder Up!!

RhymesayersDU
05-13-2012, 11:25 AM
Meh Nuggets would have been swept if Lakers had World Peace all 7 games. You saw how easy it was for him to shut his man down last night. One of the best defenders in the game and the Lakers have to have him to compete with the better teams. They got lucky because the Nuggets aren't very good.

Oh, MWP would have made up for Gasol turning back into a soft Euro and Bynum just disappearing for long stretches? Ok. Cool.

Lakers are the better team, but they won last night because Bynum rebounded and Gasol decided he has a pulse.

Paladin
05-13-2012, 11:57 AM
Wow, I'm surprised you weren't around for this series. I guess you didn't want to make silly predictions about the Lakers not being able to beat the Nuggets, and then run off and never owning up to being wrong. There seems to be a lot of that goinng on around here. (Maven)

You may not beieve this, but I did watch the series. I saw a team that is "not very good" push the Flakers to seven games. The highly vaunted Flakers are getting old and rely on Bynum being able to just stand in the paint and wait for the drive to come to him. Gasahol is soft and has one shot: the short turnaround jumper which works if can actually jump. He gets rebounds the way a blind squirrei finds a nut. Faried outplayed him. A rookie! Even Kobe is looking old. The Flakers are going to be tired from the 7game set. The Flakers are not used to playing 7 game sets. The Flakers had to play Zone all the time because they cannot run with the younger Nuggets.


OKC can run, too. And Ibaka will match Bynum for brutality, and Durand will run rings around Gasahol. I do believe, and I will sincerely enjoy, the OKC beatdown of the Flakers in six.


FYI: I did not predict the Nuggets series with the Flakers. The Nuggets are the second youngest team in the NBA. Yet they played the Flakers to damm near a draw. Suck it up dude, and admit that the Nuggets are right now a team up and coming. The future looks better for the Nuggets than is does for the Flakers....

:redbutt:

4321~

(This message was typed without the aid of Mrs. TOG's nipples.)

bombay
05-13-2012, 12:27 PM
That didn't look like a hard a hard foul against McGee, so I'm not sure why he was in so much pain. And I thought there was a foul called. I was only halfway paying attention. I'm getting dressed. Time to go out. That's how we do it in LA.


I was actually dressed while the game was going on. I'm guessing most people were.

To each his own, I suppose.

maven
05-13-2012, 03:18 PM
ahhhhhhhhhh yahhhhhhhhh

24champ
05-13-2012, 03:23 PM
Nuggets had a good season, a good fast and scrappy team. They are young and Karl will mold them into a contending team if they can add a piece or two. The Lakers on the other hand thought they could just show up and walk over the Nuggets to the second round.

Really wish Bynum had McGee's heart and motor, there would be no stopping him if Bynum did.


Sike!

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3y7bi9bpx1qcmnsoo1_400.gif

bombay
05-13-2012, 03:32 PM
Nuggets had a good season, a good fast and scrappy team. They are young and Karl will mold them into a contending team if they can add a piece or two. The Lakers on the other hand thought they could just show up and walk over the Nuggets to the second round.

Really wish Bynum had McGee's heart and motor, there would be no stopping him if Bynum did.


Sike!

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3y7bi9bpx1qcmnsoo1_400.gif


Good post. Rep.

hambone13
05-13-2012, 04:01 PM
Oh, MWP would have made up for Gasol turning back into a soft Euro and Bynum just disappearing for long stretches? Ok. Cool.

Lakers are the better team, but they won last night because Bynum rebounded and Gasol decided he has a pulse.

I think they were only the better team because of experience and confidence. If we came out in every game the way we did the last 3, we would have won in 6. I think the main reason we lost last night is because we didn't get the rolls. Some nights it just doesn't drop for you.

TonyR
05-13-2012, 04:06 PM
No way.

OKC is considerably better than the Nuggets, who just took the Lakers to 7 games. I certainly wouldn't be confident the Lakers will win.

Jason in LA
05-13-2012, 09:17 PM
I was actually dressed while the game was going on. I'm guessing most people were.

To each his own, I suppose.

I guess that was an attempt at being clever.

Jason in LA
05-13-2012, 09:22 PM
You may not beieve this, but I did watch the series. I saw a team that is "not very good" push the Flakers to seven games. The highly vaunted Flakers are getting old and rely on Bynum being able to just stand in the paint and wait for the drive to come to him. Gasahol is soft and has one shot: the short turnaround jumper which works if can actually jump. He gets rebounds the way a blind squirrei finds a nut. Faried outplayed him. A rookie! Even Kobe is looking old. The Flakers are going to be tired from the 7game set. The Flakers are not used to playing 7 game sets. The Flakers had to play Zone all the time because they cannot run with the younger Nuggets.


OKC can run, too. And Ibaka will match Bynum for brutality, and Durand will run rings around Gasahol. I do believe, and I will sincerely enjoy, the OKC beatdown of the Flakers in six.


FYI: I did not predict the Nuggets series with the Flakers. The Nuggets are the second youngest team in the NBA. Yet they played the Flakers to damm near a draw. Suck it up dude, and admit that the Nuggets are right now a team up and coming. The future looks better for the Nuggets than is does for the Flakers....

:redbutt:

4321~

(This message was typed without the aid of Mrs. TOG's nipples.)

I find it interesting that some of you Nugget fans continue to trash the Lakers. Seems like you guys have an inferiority complex. And it was a good thing that you didn't make a prediction this time around. Your last one was horrible, and then you didn't stick around afterwards.

RhymesayersDU
05-13-2012, 09:31 PM
I find it interesting that some of you Nugget fans continue to trash the Lakers. Seems like you guys have an inferiority complex. And it was a good thing that you didn't make a prediction this time around. Your last one was horrible, and then you didn't stick around afterwards.

I think there's an issue here; it's either (a) the Lakers are on the decline or, (b) the Nuggets are better than advertised, or (c) somewhere in the middle.

I'm not trying to "trash" the Lakers per se with some of my comments personally, it's just that Lakers teams of old would have had this series wrapped up in 5. So it's weird to see the Nuggets putting up any kind of legitimate fight.

What are your thoughts on your team overall? I'm not looking for you to say your team is bad, because they're still the Lakers, but I just remember Kobe and Co, steamrolling teams in years past.

maven
05-13-2012, 09:50 PM
Will get the news about Bosh tomorrow. Hopefully he's just missing a couple of games. If he's lost for the playoffs, I am disappoint.

:-[

OrangeSe7en
05-14-2012, 06:15 AM
Meh Nuggets would have been swept if Lakers had World Peace all 7 games. You saw how easy it was for him to shut his man down last night. One of the best defenders in the game and the Lakers have to have him to compete with the better teams. They got lucky because the Nuggets aren't very good.

Wilson Chandler > Artest

Jason in LA
05-14-2012, 08:22 AM
I think there's an issue here; it's either (a) the Lakers are on the decline or, (b) the Nuggets are better than advertised, or (c) somewhere in the middle.

I'm not trying to "trash" the Lakers per se with some of my comments personally, it's just that Lakers teams of old would have had this series wrapped up in 5. So it's weird to see the Nuggets putting up any kind of legitimate fight.

What are your thoughts on your team overall? I'm not looking for you to say your team is bad, because they're still the Lakers, but I just remember Kobe and Co, steamrolling teams in years past.

The Lakers are on the decline, and in this series they seriously under achieved while the Nuggets got some confidence and over achieved. The Lakers had this series wrapped up after they won Game 4 in Denver. It seemed like they thought they had it in the bag (Bynum) and a young and very athletic Nuggets team didn't feel like going to an early summer vacation.

This Lakers team will more than likely be broken up, and I'm all in favor of that. They're good enough to make it to the second round, which is not good enough for this franchise. Hell, the broke up this team last offseason with the Chris Paul trade, so don't expect certain players to stick around.

I really think the problem lies with their bigs. That's supposed to be their strength, but Bynum is a weirdo who won't show up all the time, and I can't figure out Gasol.

Most people say that this team can win if Bynum shows up, but I look at it as being more on Gasol. Bynum wasn't much of a factor when they won those two titles, but Gasol was a major factor. Who disappeared last year in the playoffs? Gasol. Who disappeared for the most part this series against the Nuggets? Gasol. When Gasol showed up in Game 7 against the Nuggets, outside of the Nuggets one run to get back into the game, the Lakers clearly were outplaying them.

When the Lakers won the two titles, Gasol averaged about 18 points and 12 rebounds a game and he hit those numbers last regular season. But in the playoffs he averaged about 13 points and less than 10 rebounds, and their was all kind of speculation about what was wrong with the guy. This regular season he didn't play well and for most of the series against the Nuggets he did a whole lot of nothing. Than Game 6 came, and he scored 3 points and pulled down 3 rebounds in 28 minutes. WTF was that?!?!

I put must of the blame on Gasol for the Lakers slide since the second title because he is the player whose production fell the most. If he shows up and he's the no. 2 on this team, then the Lakers have a chance. If he's soft and does a whole lot of nothing, than the Lakers are toast. When both he and Bynum show up, it is very difficult to beat then. I don't want to see Gasol taking a backseat to Bynum. Bynum is selfish, and Gasol is too selfless. Gasol shouldn't try to appease Bynum's ego. He needs to go out and be the All Star that he used to be.

Do the Lakers have a chance against the Thunder? Yes. But that's if Gasol and Bynum show up every game. Are the Lakers in trouble? Hell yes. They are relying on "ifs". If Bynum and Gasol show up. There is no "if" when it comes to Kobe. He'll show up. But there are some big time "ifs" with the rest of the team, and when teams have to rely on "ifs", then they probably aren't winning anything.

If the Lakers flame out again, there will be efforts to break this team up again. It really sucks that the Paul trade didn't through, because I'd say that last year the pieces that the Lakers had were much more valuable than what they have now. Gasol's value was much higher last year, Odom also had value, and after Bynum went weirdo, I'd say his value was higher then. A couple months ago the rumor was that the Magic wanted both Gasol and Bynum for Howard. Bynum was playing so well that it seemed like a silly trade for the Lakers. But with what Bynum has been doing since then, would the Magic really take that deal now seeing what those two boozos have done?

The near future does not look all that good for the Lakers. Relying of "ifs" sucks. But if Gasol and Bynum can muster up some pride, they can complete with anybody.

We'll know a lot by tonight. I'm rooting for the best, but I'm prepared for the worse.

SoonerBronco
05-14-2012, 10:18 AM
Thunder in 5...Artest better have all kinds of security...seriously, the Rednecks around here can get pretty fiesty when you cheap shot someone on their team.

TonyR
05-14-2012, 10:27 AM
Good read on LeBron.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--lebron-james--brilliant-destruction-of-pacers-can-t-mask-his-maddening-habits-.html

Here's the concluding paragraph:

Is the bar too high for James? Are the expectations too far-fetched? Isn't 32 points in a playoff game enough? Sure. But LeBron James has three MVPs now, and no less than David Stern put his name in the same sentence on Sunday as three-time winners Magic and Larry. James is that talented. He's perhaps the most gifted basketball player ever. But instead of being the gift that keeps on giving, he's the gift that keeps refusing to take.

Jason in LA
05-14-2012, 04:12 PM
Chris Bosh is out indefinitely with the abdominal strain. Typically this injury keeps a player out 2 to 4 weeks.

Well sucks for the Heat. If he can't get back and they lose, this will be the excuse they'll use.

maven
05-14-2012, 06:18 PM
Chris Bosh is out indefinitely with the abdominal strain. Typically this injury keeps a player out 2 to 4 weeks.

Well sucks for the Heat. If he can't get back and they lose, this will be the excuse they'll use.

It's a big loss. Hopefully the Heat can get past the Pacers.

maven
05-14-2012, 06:27 PM
Nice!!!! Gr8 job Philly!

Punisher
05-14-2012, 06:28 PM
Nice!!!! Gr8 job Philly!

Turner looking good

maven
05-14-2012, 06:35 PM
Turner looking good

He's coming around. Now we have a series.

Finally the refs called the moving screen on Garnett. That **** gets away with it wayyyyyyyyy too much.

maven
05-14-2012, 06:40 PM
Thunder in 5...Artest better have all kinds of security...seriously, the Rednecks around here can get pretty fiesty when you cheap shot someone on their team.

I'm going to go Thunder in 7. Hope it goes all the way...

maven
05-14-2012, 06:41 PM
No way.

OKCity is going to beat the Lakers.

Heyneck
05-14-2012, 06:44 PM
He's coming around. Now we have a series.

Finally the refs called the moving screen on Garnett. That **** gets away with it wayyyyyyyyy too much.

We should be 2-0. Yeah Turner is coming around! But I still find myself screaming at him most of the time. If and when he gets to reduce his turnovers, he will be more than an average player! Jrue is maturing quite nicely too. Even if it took him some time. Williams has to step it up... even though he is clutch, he is missing way too many open shots. But for me the nicest surprise has been Lavoy Allen play. If we just had a closer... we would be a scary team right now!

maven
05-14-2012, 06:52 PM
We should be 2-0. Yeah Turner is coming around! But I still find myself screaming at him most of the time. If and when he gets to reduce his turnovers, he will be more than an average player! Jrue is maturing quite nicely too. Even if it took him some time. Williams has to step it up... even though he is clutch, he is missing way too many open shots. But for me the nicest surprise has been Lavoy Allen play. If we just had a closer... we would be a scary team right now!

It should be 2-0 right now, but they came through and now we have a real series.

100% true

maven
05-14-2012, 06:55 PM
That is though what separates the good to great teams.

Jason in LA
05-14-2012, 07:35 PM
This is not going good. The Thunder are scoring really easy.

TDmvp
05-14-2012, 07:47 PM
OKC looks so fast.

bombay
05-14-2012, 08:09 PM
Looks like a sweep in the works, like last year v. Dallas. la could win one if OKC takes their foot off the gas. Going to be a fun series.

Jason in LA
05-14-2012, 08:13 PM
Jim Buss and Mitch Kupchak are looking over their trade options right now.

DomCasual
05-14-2012, 08:16 PM
I have a hard time hating teams in basketball. I just don't follow it, like I do the other sports. That said, I hate the Lakers. I hope they get swept.

I don't think I have posted in this thread, so there is my contribution! :)

Jason in LA
05-14-2012, 08:20 PM
Its like a video game, with the Thunder playing on rookie level.

Heyneck
05-14-2012, 08:23 PM
Can't believe LA is down 30 a little more than midway through the 3rd.

Drunken.Broncoholic
05-14-2012, 08:27 PM
Its like a video game, with the Thunder playing on rookie level.

Its a combination of the thunder being a speedy team with the lakers being a slow half court team. Lakers will be lucky to win 1 game. They do not match up well. The back to back this weekend will put a sweep stamp on this series.

bombay
05-14-2012, 08:28 PM
I have a hard time hating teams in basketball. I just don't follow it, like I do the other sports. That said, I hate the Lakers. I hope they get swept.

I don't think I have posted in this thread, so there is my contribution! :)

Rep! The sweet part is they rode the Bryant horse too long, and now have nothing of value to rebuild around or use for trade chips. Pau's had it and I doubt anyone will invest much in a guy who acts like a 6 year old - bynum. If kobe can't motivate him, who can. The rest of the team looks like the rejects that occupy the miami bench.

Drunken.Broncoholic
05-14-2012, 08:32 PM
Blake is getting owned by Westbrook. It's embarrassing.

TDmvp
05-14-2012, 08:33 PM
Its a combination of the thunder being a speedy team with the lakers being a slow half court team. Lakers will be lucky to win 1 game. They do not match up well. The back to back this weekend will put a sweep stamp on this series.

Yea it is a really bad match up for LaL .
Fun to watch them getting stomped I will say that tho.

Drunken.Broncoholic
05-14-2012, 08:35 PM
Yea it is a really bad match up for LaL .
Fun to watch them getting stomped I will say that tho.

Always fun to see them fail. Ha!

HAT
05-14-2012, 08:40 PM
Always fun to see them fail. Ha!

It's funny that people think the Lakes are going to lose this series...I can see them losing to the Clips on the WCF bit not to OKC.

maven
05-14-2012, 08:41 PM
Lakers look old, have no pride, and flat out suck.

Dexter
05-14-2012, 08:42 PM
It's funny that people think the Lakes are going to lose this series...I can see them losing to the Clips on the WCF bit not to OKC.

Not sure if serious...

Durant, Westbrook, Harden.. Home court advantage. Up 30 going in to the 4th game one..

I'm not going to eliminate the Lakers entirely, but you honestly think OKC can't beat LA?

maven
05-14-2012, 08:43 PM
The Heat didn't give up when Bosh went down.

Drunken.Broncoholic
05-14-2012, 08:47 PM
It's funny that people think the Lakes are going to lose this series...I can see them losing to the Clips on the WCF bit not to OKC.

Huh? Did you watch the lakers last series? Game 7 was not a confidence builder. The team is flat outplayed by OKC. Blake and sessions will get exposed the entire series. Lawson owned Blake and Westbrook is bigger and more physical.

Come back after this weekend. It will be wrapped up by then.

By the way the clippers don't have enough bench or offense to take out the spurs. Spurs could start their bench against them(sarcastic, but not really)

maven
05-14-2012, 08:47 PM
The Lakers are on the decline, and in this series they seriously under achieved while the Nuggets got some confidence and over achieved. The Lakers had this series wrapped up after they won Game 4 in Denver. It seemed like they thought they had it in the bag (Bynum) and a young and very athletic Nuggets team didn't feel like going to an early summer vacation.

This Lakers team will more than likely be broken up, and I'm all in favor of that. They're good enough to make it to the second round, which is not good enough for this franchise. Hell, the broke up this team last offseason with the Chris Paul trade, so don't expect certain players to stick around.

I really think the problem lies with their bigs. That's supposed to be their strength, but Bynum is a weirdo who won't show up all the time, and I can't figure out Gasol.

Most people say that this team can win if Bynum shows up, but I look at it as being more on Gasol. Bynum wasn't much of a factor when they won those two titles, but Gasol was a major factor. Who disappeared last year in the playoffs? Gasol. Who disappeared for the most part this series against the Nuggets? Gasol. When Gasol showed up in Game 7 against the Nuggets, outside of the Nuggets one run to get back into the game, the Lakers clearly were outplaying them.

When the Lakers won the two titles, Gasol averaged about 18 points and 12 rebounds a game and he hit those numbers last regular season. But in the playoffs he averaged about 13 points and less than 10 rebounds, and their was all kind of speculation about what was wrong with the guy. This regular season he didn't play well and for most of the series against the Nuggets he did a whole lot of nothing. Than Game 6 came, and he scored 3 points and pulled down 3 rebounds in 28 minutes. WTF was that?!?!

I put must of the blame on Gasol for the Lakers slide since the second title because he is the player whose production fell the most. If he shows up and he's the no. 2 on this team, then the Lakers have a chance. If he's soft and does a whole lot of nothing, than the Lakers are toast. When both he and Bynum show up, it is very difficult to beat then. I don't want to see Gasol taking a backseat to Bynum. Bynum is selfish, and Gasol is too selfless. Gasol shouldn't try to appease Bynum's ego. He needs to go out and be the All Star that he used to be.

Do the Lakers have a chance against the Thunder? Yes. But that's if Gasol and Bynum show up every game. Are the Lakers in trouble? Hell yes. They are relying on "ifs". If Bynum and Gasol show up. There is no "if" when it comes to Kobe. He'll show up. But there are some big time "ifs" with the rest of the team, and when teams have to rely on "ifs", then they probably aren't winning anything.

If the Lakers flame out again, there will be efforts to break this team up again. It really sucks that the Paul trade didn't through, because I'd say that last year the pieces that the Lakers had were much more valuable than what they have now. Gasol's value was much higher last year, Odom also had value, and after Bynum went weirdo, I'd say his value was higher then. A couple months ago the rumor was that the Magic wanted both Gasol and Bynum for Howard. Bynum was playing so well that it seemed like a silly trade for the Lakers. But with what Bynum has been doing since then, would the Magic really take that deal now seeing what those two boozos have done?

The near future does not look all that good for the Lakers. Relying of "ifs" sucks. But if Gasol and Bynum can muster up some pride, they can complete with anybody.

We'll know a lot by tonight. I'm rooting for the best, but I'm prepared for the worse.

The Lakers really suck.

Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious!

Dr. Broncenstein
05-14-2012, 08:48 PM
James Harden is everything right about basketball.

maven
05-14-2012, 08:49 PM
Huh? Did you watch the lakers last series? Game 7 was not a confidence builder. The team is flat outplayed by OKC. Blake and sessions will get exposed the entire series. Lawson owned Blake and Westbrook is bigger and more physical.

Come back after this weekend. It will be wrapped up by then.

I'd like it to go 7. Lakers better take game 2.

Drunken.Broncoholic
05-14-2012, 08:51 PM
I'd like it to go 7. Lakers better take game 2.

I'm pretty sure Stern will tweak his refs. More games means more money coming in. He'd like it to go 7

maven
05-14-2012, 08:54 PM
Spurs vs Thunder.

TDmvp
05-14-2012, 09:06 PM
It's funny that people think the Lakes are going to lose this series...I can see them losing to the Clips on the WCF bit not to OKC.



Hilarious!

SoCalBronco
05-14-2012, 09:11 PM
Enjoyed seeing the Lakers get humiliated. :)

Drunken.Broncoholic
05-14-2012, 09:12 PM
OKC sent the lakers a message. They didn't just beat them, they ran kobe and co off the floor and back to the bench for the 4th quarter. The back to back will be interesting. Not as bad as traveling in between a back to back like regular season but still playin ball 2 nights in a row. That favors OKC.

Punisher
05-14-2012, 09:15 PM
Not sure if serious...

Durant, Westbrook, Harden.. Home court advantage. Up 30 going in to the 4th game one..

I'm not going to eliminate the Lakers entirely, but you honestly think OKC can't beat LA?

Either hes playing around or he has no clue what hes talking about. I'm a lakers Fan and even i can see that OKC is a flat out Younger and better team than us and the Heat. Not only do they have Durant, Westbrook, Harden but they also have a downlow presents with Ibaka and Perkins. A find formula for a Championship

maven
05-14-2012, 09:15 PM
It's funny that people think the Lakes are going to lose this series...I can see them losing to the Clips on the WCF bit not to OKC.

Hilarious!

bombay
05-14-2012, 09:15 PM
OKC will name the score and or number of games. La will do as they did last season and try to inflict injury on the winning team as the humiliation is completed. Thug artest and bynum did their best to hurt dirk and .... the little dude bynum attacked.

24champ
05-14-2012, 09:42 PM
Don't wanna talk about it...I can't stand Mike Brown.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3pw7lFjl51rp52gv.gif

DENVERDUI55
05-14-2012, 10:00 PM
It's funny that people think the Lakes are going to lose this series...I can see them losing to the Clips on the WCF bit not to OKC.

The nuggets are very average and gave la a run for their money. Okc always has gave la trouble and now they are clearly better and wiping their arse with the old lakers.

Paladin
05-14-2012, 10:09 PM
As I said: OKC will beat the Flakers....



(This message was typed without the aid of Mrs. TOG's nipples.)

oubronco
05-15-2012, 05:38 AM
Well that was fun

Thunder Up !!

oubronco
05-15-2012, 05:39 AM
Well that was fun

Thunder Up !!

RhymesayersDU
05-15-2012, 05:50 AM
Guys, pay no attention to HAT. His football takes are equally awful, so we should appreciate the consistency.

Jason in LA
05-15-2012, 06:22 AM
The Heat didn't give up when Bosh went down.

You know you really make it too easy. I don't even have to say the joke.

Jason in LA
05-15-2012, 06:24 AM
The Lakers really suck.

Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious!

So are you going to answer either of my questions? I find it kind of weird that you left one unanswered.

Jason in LA
05-15-2012, 06:29 AM
I knew that the Thunder would get a lot of points by running the court, just like the Nuggets did, but what really showed that they are the much better team is that they even dominated in the half court offense. A simple screen and they were roaming free to do what ever they wanted, and they were hitting all their shots.

The only hope the Lakers really have is that the Thunder cool off. They were hitting shots like the Nuggets were in Game 6. Everything was going in. The Lakers just can't compete with that and have to worry about the fast break.

OrangeCrush2724
05-15-2012, 07:10 AM
So are you going to answer either of my questions? I find it kind of weird that you left one unanswered.

I find it weird that you are obsessed with Maven.

OrangeCrush2724
05-15-2012, 07:11 AM
If OKC plays anything close to last night, they will have a easy time beating the Heat and San Antonio.

Jason in LA
05-15-2012, 07:24 AM
I find it weird that you are obsessed with Maven.

Seems like you'll defend anything associated with the Heat. You probably shouldn't link yourself with that guy.

bronco militia
05-15-2012, 07:31 AM
If OKC plays anything close to last night, they will have a easy time beating the Heat and San Antonio.

why is that? i don't see the Heat and Spurs stand around and watch their opponents play basketball.

SoonerBronco
05-15-2012, 07:35 AM
why is that? i don't see the Heat and Spurs stand around and watch their opponents play basketball.

It's Easy...if Westbrook, Harden and Durant impose their will on SA and the Heat like they did to the Lakers last night, then they will win both of those series.

bronco militia
05-15-2012, 07:37 AM
It's Easy...if Westbrook, Harden and Durant impose their will on SA and the Heat like they did to the Lakers last night, then they will win both of those series.

nothing gets past this guy!

no dummy, the lakers are not equal to the heat and spurs. they actually play basketball

(see nuggets/thunder vs lakers games)

24champ
05-15-2012, 11:16 AM
I knew that the Thunder would get a lot of points by running the court, just like the Nuggets did, but what really showed that they are the much better team is that they even dominated in the half court offense. A simple screen and they were roaming free to do what ever they wanted, and they were hitting all their shots.

The only hope the Lakers really have is that the Thunder cool off. They were hitting shots like the Nuggets were in Game 6. Everything was going in. The Lakers just can't compete with that and have to worry about the fast break.


Lakers hired a defensive minded coach and we're getting lit up like a Christmas tree in these playoffs. Brown went to the 3-2 zone in the middle of the game when this team has never ran that the whole year! He needs to be canned ASAP.

Here's a good article by Kevin Ding of the OC Register.

Same as for those Lakers in 1998, these Lakers had no way to contain the opponents' two superstars and the pick-and-roll defensive disarray that made Russell Westbrook look like Stockton on steroids was only part of a greater issue:

Why, almost after almost six months of hearing his voice, are the Lakers still so unable to adhere to one of the three defensive tenets Mike Brown declared the day he was hired: Make multiple efforts on defense, the last effort being that someone must always contest whatever shot goes up.

This wasn't some one-game thing here for a defense that has deteriorated for months. Let's not just blame tired legs, either. In their previous road game, the Lakers played pick-and-roll coverage incorrectly 92 percent of the time, according to Brown's own analysis of the Game 6 loss in Denver. It is hardly shocking that they were shredded by a far more talented, more focused Thunder attack.

The Lakers scored the same 96 points in their Game 6 disaster and their Game 7 empowerment against Denver: The difference was letting the Nuggets score 113 points in Game 6 but holding them to 87 points in Game 7.

The Thunder ratcheted the points allowed up to 119 points to start this series, and the Lakers' offense got worse, too.

The Lakers didn't come close to meeting one of the three fundamental offensive tenets Brown announced upon his hiring, the one that demands reversing the ball to the other side of the court. The Lakers saw the Thunder take away their basic options on plays, yet they never moved to their third and fourth options no matter that Kobe Bryant reminded them explicitly in a first-quarter huddle: "Keep it moving."

Maybe it's too much to expect the Lakers to be connected to a first-year coach nearly as well as the Thunder to Scott Brooks or the Spurs to Gregg Popovich, and Brown will tell you with regularity how there's no shame in finished third in the West to clubs whose systems have been in place for years.

But this is the choice the Lakers made in going with Brown instead of carrying over with Brian Shaw what was established by Jackson for a tremendously talented threesome of Bryant, Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol that is still right there with Westbrook, Kevin Durant and James Harden.




http://www.ocregister.com/sports/lakers-354212-game-series.html

ludo21
05-15-2012, 11:37 AM
KD and Westbrook cant be stopped.

The Lakers have to stop Harden and the other role guys to beat the Thunder

SoonerBronco
05-15-2012, 11:38 AM
nothing gets past this guy!

no dummy, the lakers are not equal to the heat and spurs. they actually play basketball

(see nuggets/thunder vs lakers games)

Ask a dumb question, get a dumb answer...

If Westbrook plays well, no one will beat the Thunder...period.

oubronco
05-15-2012, 11:51 AM
The Lakers just got Thunderstruck!!!

TonyR
05-15-2012, 12:14 PM
Good read on Wade's decision to defer to LeBron and how it's made LeBron, and the Heat, better.

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7929717/nba-playoffs-wade-ultimate-sacrifice-lebron

SonOfLe-loLang
05-15-2012, 12:26 PM
Good read on Wade's decision to defer to LeBron and how it's made LeBron, and the Heat, better.

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7929717/nba-playoffs-wade-ultimate-sacrifice-lebron

You can file this one with the no **** dept.

TonyR
05-15-2012, 12:29 PM
You can file this one with the no **** dept.

Agree. But the LeBron haters/bashers often don't seem to understand how his desire to be a "good teammate" and his willingness to "share" with Wade hurt the Heat last year.

bronco militia
05-15-2012, 01:08 PM
The Lakers just got Thunderstruck!!!

if this game had been played in Summit county, CO, the D.A. would be pressing charges against the Thunder

;D

colorado jones
05-15-2012, 02:09 PM
if this game had been played in Summit county, CO, the D.A. would be pressing charges against the Thunder

;D

Wetbrook's baby arm = Kobe Limping out of the playoffs.

TDmvp
05-15-2012, 06:52 PM
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9863/107706695crop200x136.jpg

GO PACERS !

Jason in LA
05-15-2012, 06:53 PM
I got home, flipped on the TV, and the Heat are down by one point with :54 seconds to play and LeBron at the free throw line. Of course he missed them both. On the next possession, down by 2 points with less than :30 seconds to play the Heat have the ball, and LeBron passes it away, gets it back, and then passes it away as soon as he gets it. Wade missed the layup. Very next possession, down by 3 points with seconds to play, the ball never even gets to LeBron. Chalmers missing a 3. Game over.

That's not a surprising finish.

The Heat are in trouble. It won't be a cake walk for the Pacers, but they do have the advantage.

SoCalBronco
05-15-2012, 07:02 PM
Maven?

RhymesayersDU
05-15-2012, 07:05 PM
The missed FT's were bad. Real bad.

I don't have a problem passing it to DWade in the post for that one on one play, however.

TDmvp
05-15-2012, 07:05 PM
Maven?

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4397/images2ju.jpg

:)

Jason in LA
05-15-2012, 07:11 PM
The missed FT's were bad. Real bad.

I don't have a problem passing it to DWade in the post for that one on one play, however.

I wouldn't have mentioned it if he didn't always look to pass the ball in that type of situation. And he didn't do much of anything on the final play. It just plays out that way too often. He doesn't always have to take the game winner, but sometimes he should take it, or at least be more a part of the play.

RhymesayersDU
05-15-2012, 07:19 PM
I don't necessarily disagree, but in this instance specifically the play was clearly an iso for DWade and with the way he got to the rim, he makes that 9/10 times.

ohiobronco2
05-15-2012, 07:43 PM
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4397/images2ju.jpg

:)

Hilarious!

Drunken.Broncoholic
05-15-2012, 07:59 PM
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4397/images2ju.jpg

:)

Ouch!