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Pony Boy
12-01-2011, 10:44 AM
USC quarterback Matt Barkley has become a Tim Tebow fan and is also a member of the God Squad. So, I guess you God haters can scratch Barkley off your Christmas list.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2011/12/tim-tebow-matt-barkley-usc-nfl-denver-broncos-heisman-trophy.html

"I find it so intriguing," said Barkley, who passed for 39 touchdowns this season. "I havenít really respected his quarterback play for the longest time just because I like typical drop-back quarterbacks, thatís just who I am.

"I mean, I loved Matt Ryan when he was in college. But I love Tim for who he is and for how heís a gamer. He wins games. No matter how he does it, I mean, heís doing it and thatís what you want to do when youíre playing football."

Like Tebow, Barkley has a strong Christian faith.

"I think he does it in a good manner, to where he stands up for what he believes in," Barkley said of Tebow. "I think now that heís finally putting his work on the field heís getting a little more respect for it."

Barkley is weighing whether to return to USC for a final collegiate season or to make himself available for the NFL draft.

If he returns to the Trojans, Barkley said he would not use the platform for evangelical purposes.

"Thatís not my personality," he said. "Iím not so outspoken like that. Iíve always kind of been somebody who keeps to myself. I would keep the same platform I have, speaking to people, to kids, but not much more than after a game saying, 'Praise God.' I donít think Iíd take it that far."

Rohirrim
12-01-2011, 10:45 AM
You're an idiot.

Pony Boy
12-01-2011, 10:46 AM
You're an idiot.

Yep, I knew that would get a rise out of you ......... where's your buddy TGN?

BroncoBen
12-01-2011, 10:49 AM
Read a blurb this morning about Matt Barkley having one of those draft reviews done on him, as in where it looks like he will be drafted. I am sure he will be a top 10 draft pick. Question is.. if he stays in school could he go #1 overall the next draft (2013).

Not that money is a big issue anymore with the rookie salary cap, but with the prestige.

bendog
12-01-2011, 10:51 AM
Read a blurb this morning about Matt Barkley having one of those draft reviews done on him, as in where it looks like he will be drafted. I am sure he will be a top 10 draft pick. Question is.. if he stays in school could he go #1 overall the next draft (2013).

Not that money is a big issue anymore with the rookie salary cap, but with the prestige.

I think Tyler Wilson will be the top pick in 2013

Pony Boy
12-01-2011, 10:52 AM
Read a blurb this morning about Matt Barkley having one of those draft reviews done on him, as in where it looks like he will be drafted. I am sure he will be a top 10 draft pick. Question is.. if he stays in school could he go #1 overall the next draft (2013).

Not that money is a big issue anymore with the rookie salary cap, but with the prestige.

I would say he's a top 5 pick and no reason to stay another year and risk injury.

Rohirrim
12-01-2011, 10:54 AM
Yep, I knew that would get a rise out of you ......... where's your buddy TGN?

You know what they call it when you create a thread for no other reason than to annoy? Trolling.

maven
12-01-2011, 10:55 AM
So, I guess you God haters can scratch Barkley off your Christmas list.


What does this have anything to do with the article you posted?

bendog
12-01-2011, 11:00 AM
[QUOTE=Pony Boy;3398035]I would say he's a top 5 pick and no reason to stay another year and risk injury.[/QUOT

Is USC bowl elgible in 2012?

bendog
12-01-2011, 11:01 AM
Oh, so the tebow questions are god related? thanks for that. backing out of idiot thread ....

Pony Boy
12-01-2011, 11:04 AM
What does this have anything to do with the article you posted?

If you don't understand then the comment wasn't aimed at you but for posters like Rho it cuts to the quick.

Rohirrim
12-01-2011, 11:06 AM
If you don't understand then the comment wasn't aimed at you but for posters like Rho it cuts to the quick.

So, you're using the board to carry out personal vendettas against individual posters you don't like? Still working on that "manliness" thing, eh? ;D

Sounds like Butt material to me.

Pony Boy
12-01-2011, 11:13 AM
So, you're using the board to carry out personal vendettas against individual posters you don't like? Still working on that "manliness" thing, eh? ;D

Sounds like Butt material to me.

Tebow's faith and the way he wears it on his sleeve is a hot topic not just on the mane but also in national media coverage but I see where you are going with this, deflect it and try to get the mods to move it to the butt...

Come you can do better than that squirt some real tears .........

bendog
12-01-2011, 11:17 AM
Tebow's faith and the way he wears it on his sleeve is a hot topic not just on the mane but also in national media coverage but I see where you are going with this, deflect it and try to get the mods to move it to the butt...

Come you can do better than that squirt some real tears .........

No offense, but I don't see the pt of the thread unless it was posted to annoy those who really don't give a flipping crab about Tebow's religion.

Dr. Broncenstein
12-01-2011, 11:19 AM
You're an idiot.

Oh he mad.

Rohirrim
12-01-2011, 11:20 AM
Tebow's faith and the way he wears it on his sleeve is a hot topic not just on the mane but also in national media coverage but I see where you are going with this, deflect it and try to get the mods to move it to the butt...

Come you can do better than that squirt some real tears .........

Perhaps discussions of Tebow's religiosity are better left to a Christian message board, rather than a football board? I've been following Barkley since he took the QB job at USC as a freshman. I'm a big fan of his. Everybody knows about his good works off the field. The difference between him and Tebow is that he doesn't feel the need to make himself the focus. Even in this article you post, what is Barkley trying to do? He's trying to return the focus to football:

"Thatís not my personality," he said. "Iím not so outspoken like that. Iíve always kind of been somebody who keeps to myself. I would keep the same platform I have, speaking to people, to kids, but not much more than after a game saying, 'Praise God.' I donít think Iíd take it that far."

I wish Tebow would learn something from him. And you too.

broncocalijohn
12-01-2011, 11:28 AM
Barkley is probably top 5 this season. He has improved a ton part way through the season. To me, he was like Orton but since the ND game he has improved his 4th quarter rating. He is from Newport Beach so money isn't an issue. He can always get an insurance policy on himself in case of injury. The only think I see him sticking around for his senior year is that he stuck through the probation time and now he can get the fruits of his labor by coming back and being on a team that will be Top 5 in the country and be bowl elegible. He might move up a few spots for the 2012 draft but is that worth the risk of injury. I put out the possibilities of stay or go but it is what he wants that is the ultimate sacrifice either way.

See how I put this back onto football?
Also, do you notice how many "guests" come to a Tebow thread? Must be the google ability.

Smiling Assassin27
12-01-2011, 11:29 AM
You know what they call it when you create a thread for no other reason than to annoy? Trolling.

Oh, the irony. :rofl:

Smiling Assassin27
12-01-2011, 11:30 AM
Perhaps discussions of Tebow's religiosity are better left to a Christian message board, rather than a football board? I've been following Barkley since he took the QB job at USC as a freshman. I'm a big fan of his. Everybody knows about his good works off the field. The difference between him and Tebow is that he doesn't feel the need to make himself the focus. Even in this article you post, what is Barkley trying to do? He's trying to return the focus to football:

"Thatís not my personality," he said. "Iím not so outspoken like that. Iíve always kind of been somebody who keeps to myself. I would keep the same platform I have, speaking to people, to kids, but not much more than after a game saying, 'Praise God.' I donít think Iíd take it that far."

I wish Tebow would learn something from him. And you too.

So, Barkley's smart for following his personality traits but Tebow is the opposite for following his...umm-kay.

Pony Boy
12-01-2011, 11:34 AM
No offense, but I don't see the pt of the thread unless it was posted to annoy those who really don't give a flipping crab about Tebow's religion.

That's the point most of us don't give a flipping crap about Tebow's religion but there are some that spew Tebow hate solely on the basis of his faith and the way he displays it. I'm giving those haters a little heads up, if they don't like Tebow they probably won't like Barkley because he seems to be cut from the same cloth.

Smiling Assassin27
12-01-2011, 11:37 AM
Perhaps discussions of Tebow's religiosity are better left to a Christian message board, rather than a football board?

Interesting. Did you then change your mind later in the post when you typed:

I wish Tebow would learn something from him. And you too.

Dead ball foul, violating your own post guideline by talking about something you previously said should be done on a non-Mane board. That's 15 yards and an automatic

http://www.angelfire.com/ia3/coltsnflrules/photogal/firstdown.gif

See what I did there? Focus on football. ;)

bendog
12-01-2011, 11:37 AM
That's the point most of us don't give a flipping crap about Tebow's religion but there are some that spew Tebow hate solely on the basis of his faith and the way he displays it. I'm giving those haters a little heads up, if they don't like Tebow they probably won't like Barkley because he seems to be cut from the same cloth.

I really don't think many dislike Tebow simply because of faith. Personally, I think the praising God thing is over the top because God probably isn't a football fan, and I'd prefer Barkley's approach. What grates about Tebow is his asshair fanbase.

Rolandftw
12-01-2011, 11:39 AM
That's the point most of us don't give a flipping crap about Tebow's religion but there are some that spew Tebow hate solely on the basis of his faith and the way he displays it. I'm giving those haters a little heads up, if they don't like Tebow they probably won't like Barkley because he seems to be cut from the same cloth.

You obviously did not read Barkley's comments. I don't think very many people have a problem with Tebow's faith. They find it annoying how he displays it.

Nobody cares if someone says they're a Christian. Or Praising something that they perceive to be bigger then them.

Saying you were too busy praying to pay attention to what the defense is doing, is a different statement altogether then "Praise God/Allah/Jesus"

Pony Boy
12-01-2011, 11:39 AM
No offense, but I don't see the pt of the thread unless it was posted to annoy those who really don't give a flipping crab about Tebow's religion.

Ha...... not sure what a flipping crab is, is that some new STD?

Smiling Assassin27
12-01-2011, 11:41 AM
I think the praising God thing is over the top because God probably isn't a football fan

So it's 'over the top' BECAUSE God doesn't care about football? How are those two things related and when has Tim ever said that's why he does it? We all know God's a skeet shooting fan.

Pony Boy
12-01-2011, 11:52 AM
I really don't think many dislike Tebow simply because of faith. Personally, I think the praising God thing is over the top because God probably isn't a football fan, and I'd prefer Barkley's approach. What grates about Tebow is his asshair fanbase.

I watched the jets game at a sports betting bar in the Bahamas and it might have been the only place on the island with the NFL network so there was a big crowd. I would say 10% Broncos fans and 10% Jets and 80% screaming Tebow fans. I really didn't see a problem with this.

bendog
12-01-2011, 11:55 AM
So it's 'over the top' BECAUSE God doesn't care about football? How are those two things related and when has Tim ever said that's why he does it? We all know God's a skeet shooting fan.

good pt. Let me put it this way. I don't give a flying **** if Tebow loves Jesus, Allah, Moses or anal beads, and anything about the guy other than his performance of the field is TMI. and stop calling him tim unless you know him.

edit: And while "tim" has some odd need to tell me about his oh so special love of Jesus, it doesnt' really annoy me so much as the asshats on this board who think it's special and somehow relevant to a football message board.

epicSocialism4tw
12-01-2011, 01:25 PM
You're an idiot.

http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/mytphotos/fullSize/2/a/2a0ca-Good_Good_Let_the_Butt_hurt_flow_through.jpg

Spider
12-01-2011, 01:28 PM
The God squad ................. They everywhere , they be everywhere ........ Kneeling tebow man juice slurping Zombie worshiping Lunatics ...........

epicSocialism4tw
12-01-2011, 01:29 PM
good pt. Let me put it this way. I don't give a flying **** if Tebow loves Jesus, Allah, Moses or anal beads, and anything about the guy other than his performance of the field is TMI. and stop calling him tim unless you know him.

edit: And while "tim" has some odd need to tell me about his oh so special love of Jesus, it doesnt' really annoy me so much as the asshats on this board who think it's special and somehow relevant to a football message board.

http://www.taclink.org/k/src/131896910071.jpg

Spider
12-01-2011, 01:34 PM
thank Tebow the god squad is here to save our souls .......... http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Fred-Phelps-God-Sent-the-Shooter.gif

Agamemnon
12-01-2011, 02:13 PM
You're an idiot.

Quality post there sparky...

DarkHorse30
12-01-2011, 02:39 PM
If Barkley had only one group of dogs fighting each other, would Rohirrim like him more than Vick?

This is not "baiting".....unless you bite. Than you are a fish......and I am a fisherman.....like St. Peter.

Gort
12-01-2011, 03:52 PM
You're an idiot.

God haters gonna God hate.

see what i did there?

:thanku:

bendog
12-01-2011, 04:16 PM
I watched the jets game at a sports betting bar in the Bahamas and it might have been the only place on the island with the NFL network so there was a big crowd. I would say 10% Broncos fans and 10% Jets and 80% screaming Tebow fans. I really didn't see a problem with this.

look, some of us think tebow would be better served to STFU. I don't care about his relationship with the lord or his love life or what he loves best. He has a compunction to "share" which would not go over well in the vast majority of workplaces. It's wierd. Not his religion; his need to tell me about it. I realize he's not telling me I don't have a good relationship with God, though frankly I don't believe in any one on one quality time with God because I think God's a little bigger than that. But his compunction borders on exhibitionism, imo. Still, it's no big deal to me. I find it sort of amusing.

What I don't find amusing is the asshairs who thiink anyone who doesn't think his TV praise is just the bees knees, is somehow a god hater or tebow hater, or a bad fan. I would like those people to strangle themselves.

Dr. Broncenstein
12-01-2011, 04:20 PM
look, some of us think tebow would be better served to STFU. I don't care about his relationship with the lord or his love life or what he loves best. He has a compunction to "share" which would not go over well in the vast majority of workplaces. It's wierd. Not his religion; his need to tell me about it. I realize he's not telling me I don't have a good relationship with God, though frankly I don't believe in any one on one quality time with God because I think God's a little bigger than that. But his compunction borders on exhibitionism, imo. Still, it's no big deal to me. I find it sort of amusing.

What I don't find amusing is the asshairs who thiink anyone who doesn't think his TV praise is just the bees knees, is somehow a god hater or tebow hater, or a bad fan. I would like those people to strangle themselves.

Squirt some more tears about it.

Spider
12-01-2011, 04:22 PM
:thumbs:

Spider
12-01-2011, 04:23 PM
look, some of us think tebow would be better served to STFU. I don't care about his relationship with the lord or his love life or what he loves best. He has a compunction to "share" which would not go over well in the vast majority of workplaces. It's wierd. Not his religion; his need to tell me about it. I realize he's not telling me I don't have a good relationship with God, though frankly I don't believe in any one on one quality time with God because I think God's a little bigger than that. But his compunction borders on exhibitionism, imo. Still, it's no big deal to me. I find it sort of amusing.

What I don't find amusing is the asshairs who thiink anyone who doesn't think his TV praise is just the bees knees, is somehow a god hater or tebow hater, or a bad fan. I would like those people to strangle themselves.

:thumbs:

Gort
12-01-2011, 04:24 PM
:thumbs:

meth is not your friend. repeat after me. meth is not your friend. except for spider.. he doesn't have any friends, so yes, in spider's case, meth is his friend.

Spider
12-01-2011, 04:25 PM
meth is not your friend. repeat after me. meth is not your friend. except for spider.. he doesn't have any friends, so yes, in spider's case, meth is his friend.

wow that is harsh ....... why are so mean to me ? was it something I said ?

OBF1
12-01-2011, 04:57 PM
Perhaps discussions of Tebow's religiosity are better left to a Christian message board, rather than a football board? I've been following Barkley since he took the QB job at USC as a freshman. I'm a big fan of his. Everybody knows about his good works off the field. The difference between him and Tebow is that he doesn't feel the need to make himself the focus. Even in this article you post, what is Barkley trying to do? He's trying to return the focus to football:


The difference is clear to all... Tebow has a Heisman Trophy, 2 National championships, a mutli million dollar NFL contract and Plays on my favorite sports team...... The Denver Broncos.

Did I miss anything???

GreatBronco16
12-01-2011, 05:00 PM
Wow, you would think from some of the posts in here that Tebow came into your house and started to witness to you.

All he says at the start of every interview, is that he has to give praise to his savior and Lord Jesus Christ, then his team mates and then it's nothing but football unless one of the reporters baits him into talking more about his faith.

But there is an easy fix for you guys that don't like hearing it. The mute button works wonders, and the channel up/down does too.

See easy fix.

Pony Boy
12-01-2011, 05:10 PM
Did the haters hate this guy.........as much as they do Tebow?


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DAN_BRONCO_FAN
12-01-2011, 05:15 PM
wasnt that a police drama back in the 70s or 80s named the GOD SQUAD they captured criminals with the power of prayer. starring kirk cammeron

Agamemnon
12-01-2011, 05:18 PM
The thing that is silly about all the criticism aimed at Tebow for being too out there with his religion, is that most of the time he only really talks about it when asked by reporters. Otherwise he just says "God bless" and prays on the sideline, which really isn't overbearing at all.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
12-01-2011, 05:29 PM
The thing that is silly about all the criticism aimed at Tebow for being too out there with his religion, is that most of the time he only really talks about it when asked by reporters. Otherwise he just says "God bless" and prays on the sideline, which really isn't overbearing at all.

omg he said god bless get the tar and feathers out .
we cant allow him to thank God or praise Jesus for just being alive are you mad sir?
now if he was to run a dog fighting ring ,or do drugs or rape some women or knock some ladies up and then not pay child support or shoot someone now that's acceptable.
but no he is not allowed to thank God o mighty or his savior Jesus Christ.

Rohirrim
12-01-2011, 05:31 PM
Plummer created a controversy when he said he wishes Tebow would tone it down with talking about his religion every time he can. Tebow responded that heíll take every opportunity to praise the Lord, comparing his own declarations that he loves Jesus with a man telling his wife he loves her.

Although Plummer stressed that he doesnít have anything against Tebow or his beliefs, he said he doesnít think that explanation makes a lot of sense.

ďIf I jumped up after every game and said ĎFirst and foremost I want to thank and say I love my wife,í people would get tired of hearing that,Ē Plummer said on 102.3 The Ticket in Denver, via Sports Radio Interviews. ďEven my wife would get sick of hearing that.Ē

Plummer said he canít help but wonder whether linking God with the game of football ó which is, after all, trivial in the grand scheme of things ó actually cheapens Tebowís beliefs.

ďI can think back to when I was a kid watching sports Ė me and my brothers were big sports fans Ė it always seemed to trivialize that importance of a relationship of that sort that people had with Jesus Christ or with God,Ē Plummer said. ďWhatever it was it seemed to be an inappropriate place to bring it up after a football game or a basketball game or whatever, but I am not dissing the guy for his beliefs. He obviously is a good kid. Heís got a lot of strong morals and values Ė itís just Iíll TiVo it and then Iíll mute it. I donít have to hear it.Ē
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/28/jake-plummer-im-not-dissing-tim-tebow-i-just-dont-need-to-hear-it/

edit - The comments in that article are pretty good. I like this one:

Dear Tim,

Lately I have been feeling smothered. I think we need a break.

Jesus

TailgateNut
12-01-2011, 05:37 PM
omg he said god bless get the tar and feathers out .
we cant allow him to thank God or praise Jesus for just being alive are you mad sir?
now if he was to run a dog fighting ring ,or do drugs or rape some women or knock some ladies up and then not pay child support or shoot someone now that's acceptable.
but no he is not allowed to thank God o mighty or his savior Jesus Christ.

Please point out where those who are sick of all the religious crap have condoned the behavior of those other assholes. I personally hate Vick and wish he would be mauled by a pack of wild dogs. I hated BM and Henry was a dick.......I could go on, but what's the use....those who would condone integration of church and state see no issues with someone using the NFL platform to push their beliefs.

Rohirrim
12-01-2011, 05:41 PM
Please point out where those who are sick of all the religious crap have condoned the behavior of those other a-holes. I personally hate Vick and wish he would be mauled by a pack of wild dogs. I hated BM and Henry was a dick.......I could go on, but what's the use....those who would condone integration of church and state see no issues with someone using the NFL platform to push their beliefs.

Yeah, that's some great logic: If you don't love Timmy unconditionally, you must like animal cruelty. :oyvey:

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
12-01-2011, 05:41 PM
dear jake stfu if Tebow wants to thank god so be it he should thank god some 400lbs linebacker don't run over him like a freight train and flatten him why not.
its not like he saying "Allahu Akbar and detonating a suicide vest or crashing a plane into buildings . he can be Jewish and say slalom or any other religion that don't include violence. hell he can be Amish i don't care.
now go back to your handball quitter

Rohirrim
12-01-2011, 05:43 PM
Plummer said he can’t help but wonder whether linking God with the game of football — which is, after all, trivial in the grand scheme of things — actually cheapens Tebow’s beliefs.

Interesting point.

orinjkrush
12-01-2011, 05:44 PM
everybody is grinding their axe. all the time. christian-ism, conservatis-ism, liberal-ism, multi-cultural-ism, sex-ism, gay-ism, anti-gay-ism.

deal with it. and watch what YOU say.

Agamemnon
12-01-2011, 05:52 PM
Plummer said he canít help but wonder whether linking God with the game of football ó which is, after all, trivial in the grand scheme of things ó actually cheapens Tebowís beliefs.

Interesting point.

Tebow has never actually said that God influences what happens in a game. He's repeatedly said however that football isn't really that important compared to his faith and his ministry. He's also said that he praises God whether he wins or loses. For Tebow, God is just an ever-present part of his life, football or no football. The guy isn't going to parcel out his faith just to make others more comfortable, and I respect that.

This is coming from someone who is anything but Christian...

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
12-01-2011, 05:53 PM
Please point out where those who are sick of all the religious crap have condoned the behavior of those other a-holes. I personally hate Vick and wish he would be mauled by a pack of wild dogs. I hated BM and Henry was a dick.......I could go on, but what's the use....those who would condone integration of church and state see no issues with someone using the NFL platform to push their beliefs.

how about lack of any criticism i noticed a few people here that are a bit uncomfortable with TT giving thanks to his creator .
he isnt pushing anything
its not like he screams at the screen
YOU WILL BELIEVE IN CHRIST AND GOD I TIM TEBOW SAID SO YOU EVIL DEMON SPAWNS REPENT REPENT BEFORE THE LORD YOU DIRTY SINNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!
ONLY THRU DONATING TO THE TIM TEBOW FOUNDATION CAN YOU GET TO HEAVEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nope didn't see anything like that nutty ol boy.
but i noticed a few posters or more than a few here there everywhere bitching about his religious beliefs ie the tebowing gb thing . my satire is aimed at those nimrods .
yes my post is satire .yalls act like sticks in the mud at time loosen up this is already tldr material

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
12-01-2011, 06:00 PM
ok lemme simplify this.
mho
Tebow being christian don't matter to me.
W and L 's do also i like the guy and as long as he aint trying to push his religion or bash someone else beliefs i don't care.
also how long has he been a qb also factors in ie i didn't xpect 5-1 for someone who isnt a rookie but really he is a rookie so W and L dont mean much atm

orange 4 life
12-01-2011, 06:17 PM
good pt. Let me put it this way. I don't give a flying **** if Tebow loves Jesus, Allah, Moses or anal beads, and anything about the guy other than his performance of the field is TMI. and stop calling him tim unless you know him.

edit: And while "tim" has some odd need to tell me about his oh so special love of Jesus, it doesnt' really annoy me so much as the asshats on this board who think it's special and somehow relevant to a football message board.

Whether one agrees or disagrees with Tebow's approach I think there's no doubt this is the main reason he's SUCH a polarizing figure.
Personally I'm a deeply religious person and proud of it but I also do think he can be a little over the top at times. Saying "God bless" after an interview not so much. Giving credit to his "Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" virtually EVERY time he's asked about a GAME is a bit much.
Keep in mind I don't judge him nor do I care. It's just that in MY personal experience doing that (similar to the guys preaching in front of the bridge outside Mile High after every game) actually does more harm than good. Other people of faith already are people of faith. People that are not are generally NOT inspired by it but rather often PUT OFF by it. For that reason I wish he'd tone it down.

That said I love his values, his heart, his work ethic, his faith (his own faith in himself and his higher power), and his uncanny ability to elevate his play and the play of others when it matters most.
In fact this is the first time I've talked about his religion and likely won't do it much in the future. I'm just happy to be winning and even if I don't agree with all the things Tebow says or does I'm also happy to have a QB that by all accounts is a solid role model for the kids watching him.

And finally I had a friend of mine f/b this link to me so thought I'd share it. It's just Plummer being Plummer and telling it like he sees it but given the topic it's an interesting read if nothing else.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Plummer-on-Tebow-8216-When-he-accepts-that-we?urn=nfl-wp12281

orange 4 life
12-01-2011, 06:21 PM
P.S.- Don't get caught up in the headline. If you read the whole article it's apparent Plummer isn't trying to bash him at all. Most of what he says is quite positive and IMHO very interesting since it's coming from the last QB we had that was able to rally the troops and win a bunch of games.

ChrisToker
12-01-2011, 06:47 PM
Read a blurb this morning about Matt Barkley having one of those draft reviews done on him, as in where it looks like he will be drafted. I am sure he will be a top 10 draft pick. Question is.. if he stays in school could he go #1 overall the next draft (2013).

Not that money is a big issue anymore with the rookie salary cap, but with the prestige.

Is USC bowl eligible next year? Worth a shot at Championship.

Play2win
12-01-2011, 07:04 PM
The difference is clear to all... Tebow has a Heisman Trophy, 2 National championships, a mutli million dollar NFL contract and Plays on my favorite sports team...... The Denver Broncos.

Did I miss anything???

I just hope soon enough all those points won't be differences, especially the last one. 8')

Agamemnon
12-01-2011, 08:57 PM
I just hope soon enough all those points won't be differences, especially the last one. 8')

Someone hates winning...

edog24
12-01-2011, 09:04 PM
Wow, you would think from some of the posts in here that Tebow came into your house and started to witness to you.

All he says at the start of every interview, is that he has to give praise to his savior and Lord Jesus Christ, then his team mates and then it's nothing but football unless one of the reporters baits him into talking more about his faith.

But there is an easy fix for you guys that don't like hearing it. The mute button works wonders, and the channel up/down does too.

See easy fix.

I guess the same people would rather hear (instead of building a hospital!) about players buying gold teeth, cars and jewelry and bailing their boys out of shootouts at the nightclub.

Spider
12-01-2011, 09:07 PM
I guess the same people would rather hear (instead of building a hospital!) about players buying gold teeth, cars and jewelry and bailing their boys out of shootouts at the nightclub.

no actually rather not hear anything about their personal lives at all ...........what in the hell does tebows faith or off the field actions have to do with anything ?

edog24
12-01-2011, 09:11 PM
no actually rather not hear anything about their personal lives at all ...........what in the hell does tebows faith or off the field actions have to do with anything ?

I just think it's refreshing to have a guy who is a role model on the field and off. He inspires teammates, fans, media, fans across the globe.

Whether you believe in God or not, it blows me away that people don't want to hear his message when it is used to benefit so many people.

Would you rather have Bmarsh or Big Ben on your team, when you know they are a trainwreck off the field?

Spider
12-01-2011, 09:13 PM
I just think it's refreshing to have a guy who is a role model on the field and off. He inspires teammates, fans, media, fans across the globe.

Whether you believe in God or not, it blows me away that people don't want to hear his message when it is used to benefit so many people.

Would you rather have Bmarsh or Big Ben on your team, when you know they are a trainwreck off the field?

what in the **** do you need a role model For ? ......... Cant you guide your own life ?

edog24
12-01-2011, 09:16 PM
what in the **** do you need a role model For ? ......... Cant you guide your own life ?

I don't. It's just nice to not feel remorseful cheering for guys that are criminals and poor citizens off the field. You must have lots of Kobe Bryant jerseys in your closet.

Rohirrim
12-01-2011, 09:24 PM
There are a hell of a lot of players in the league who are great role models. Dawkins and Champ, for two on the Broncos. The bad eggs get the most of the media attention, but if you think about it, the majority of players in the league are pretty upstanding guys.

Spider
12-01-2011, 09:28 PM
I don't. It's just nice to not feel remorseful cheering for guys that are criminals and poor citizens off the field. You must have lots of Kobe Bryant jerseys in your closet.

so is Tebow the only one that is doing good things ?
how come no one brags about other players doing good things ? or all the rest of the Broncos just thugs , murders , rapist ? oh and I hate Basketball , Baseball , pretty sure I dont like you either ya turd

Requiem
12-01-2011, 09:31 PM
Is USC bowl eligible next year? Worth a shot at Championship.

Yes they are.

edog24
12-01-2011, 09:32 PM
so is Tebow the only one that is doing good things ?
how come no one brags about other players doing good things ? or all the rest of the Broncos just thugs , murders , rapist ? oh and I hate Basketball , Baseball , pretty sure I dont like you either ya turd

Whatever floats your boat.

It sounds like anger/hate is your preferred mood.

I feel bad for people who can't just be happy to see such a great player and overall citizen land on our team. Haters gonna hate right?

vonqkilla
12-01-2011, 09:41 PM
Tebow flashmob on craigslist

Spider
12-01-2011, 09:54 PM
Whatever floats your boat.

It sounds like anger/hate is your preferred mood.

I feel bad for people who can't just be happy to see such a great player and overall citizen land on our team. Haters gonna hate right?

so I hate tebow ? No not angry just low tolerance for people who talk out of their ass ............ Much like you do . I notice you skipped right the meat of my post ..... So how come your not sucking off other players doing good ?

Spider
12-01-2011, 09:56 PM
i tell you why edog , you think Tebow has a cute ass ....... I dont think Tebow is any more religious then the other guys on the team , Tebow flaunts it , and it turns you on ........

KCStud
12-01-2011, 11:03 PM
There are lots of powerful christians in the NFL or soon to be in the NFL.

Jamaal Charles is very christian. So is Sam Bradford.

These are two of my favorites from Dexter McCluster and Landry Jones.

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barryr
12-02-2011, 06:17 AM
There are lots of powerful christians in the NFL or soon to be in the NFL.

Jamaal Charles is very christian. So is Sam Bradford.

These are two of my favorites from Dexter McCluster and Landry Jones.

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Probably the last time I see Jones's name being mentioned about being drafted by the Broncos again :wiggle:

BroncoBen
12-02-2011, 08:22 AM
ok lemme simplify this.
mho
Tebow being christian don't matter to me.
W and L 's do also i like the guy and as long as he aint trying to push his religion or bash someone else beliefs i don't care.
also how long has he been a qb also factors in ie i didn't xpect 5-1 for someone who isnt a rookie but really he is a rookie so W and L dont mean much atm

I agree with this.. From what I've seen Tebow really doesn't push his Christian beliefs on people. Yes he does his whole 'Thank God' thing after each game.. which is fine, doesn't really bother me.

Now if Tebow was wearing his Bronco colors and going out and and preaching and making judgements, that would be a differnt story.

He pretty much just talks about himself and how he believes and how football is not the most important thing in the world.

I respect that.

edog24
12-02-2011, 09:41 AM
i tell you why edog , you think Tebow has a cute ass ....... I dont think Tebow is any more religious then the other guys on the team , Tebow flaunts it , and it turns you on ........

It's ok dude I think you are awesome too. Put the meth pipe down now, try not to hurt anyone today, breathe.

Pony Boy
12-02-2011, 11:23 AM
There are lots of powerful christians in the NFL or soon to be in the NFL.

Jamaal Charles is very christian. So is Sam Bradford.

These are two of my favorites from Dexter McCluster and Landry Jones.

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Oh Snap .......... another God Squad member, will this never end?

KCStud
12-02-2011, 09:29 PM
Oh Snap .......... another God Squad member, will this never end?

Nope. Matt Barkley, Sam Bradford, Landry Jones, RGIII is very devout in his faith too.

epicSocialism4tw
12-02-2011, 09:40 PM
Nope. Matt Barkley, Sam Bradford, Landry Jones, RGIII is very devout in his faith too.

Pretty soon, every QB in the league will be Christian!
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Rolandftw
12-03-2011, 01:02 AM
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDIQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fafriedman.org%2Fhsp%2FPDF%2F126_B radyJesus.pdf&ei=w9PZTpnAEsv2sQLQ5NzuDQ&usg=AFQjCNFsQbO_k_qk7hefP0tb-fGTRInZAQ&sig2=-XPREfxjZlmnnSPLIUSVtw

Tom Brady disagrees... ;D

Rohirrim
12-03-2011, 09:22 AM
Since we're going to have religious threads on the main forum now, I thought I'd bring up something that occurred to me lately. When you look at the advent of these great, so-called prophets who came and went throughout history, you begin to notice that they don't really have any effect on the world whatsoever. Their followers may erect a new religion in their name, but what's the difference in that? It just replaces some religion that came before, or more likely, integrates the old religion into the new one. But history seems to swallow up the prophets like a stone dropped into a pond. Wars don't stop. Sickness doesn't end. Peace doesn't sweep the land (usually the opposite when the new religionists start fighting the old orthodoxy). Where's the divinity in that?

And then a new prophet comes along, the new religions wear out over time and then they are replaced as well. Pantheism sweeps animism away. Monotheism sweeps pantheism away. Maybe silly sci-fi religions like Scientology or some self-help/ psychology/yoga/vegan blend will replace the religions dominating the world today? And yet, human beings go on pretty much as they always have, slowly evolving, in tiny increments, from age to age.

Pony Boy
12-03-2011, 10:22 AM
Since we're going to have religious threads on the main forum now, I thought I'd bring up something that occurred to me lately. When you look at the advent of these great, so-called prophets who came and went throughout history, you begin to notice that they don't really have any effect on the world whatsoever. Their followers may erect a new religion in their name, but what's the difference in that? It just replaces some religion that came before, or more likely, integrates the old religion into the new one. But history seems to swallow up the prophets like a stone dropped into a pond. Wars don't stop. Sickness doesn't end. Peace doesn't sweep the land (usually the opposite when the new religionists start fighting the old orthodoxy). Where's the divinity in that?

And then a new prophet comes along, the new religions wear out over time and then they are replaced as well. Pantheism sweeps animism away. Monotheism sweeps pantheism away. Maybe silly sci-fi religions like Scientology or some self-help/ psychology/yoga/vegan blend will replace the religions dominating the world today? And yet, human beings go on pretty much as they always have, slowly evolving, in tiny increments, from age to age.

Yep, it's been a bad week for you God haters ......

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Rohirrim
12-03-2011, 10:31 AM
Yep, it's been a bad week for you God haters ......


Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. ;D