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DB-Freak
12-01-2011, 07:14 AM
Itís time to start thinking of Von Miller in a new light. The Broncos rookie is running away with our rookie of the year poll, but that doesnít come close to doing him justice. Miller has been arguably the biggest reason behind the defensive resurgence in Denver, and he really should have the rookie awards locked up; his play dominates that of any other defensive rookie, so letís look beyond to a farther horizon.

Itís time we forgot talk of best rookie and started to think in terms of Pro-Bowl, All-Pro, maybe even Defensive Player of the Year. It sounds crazy, but there may not be a better candidate than Miller right now.







Every-down Talent

Most people think of him as just an edge rusher, but in Denverís defense Miller is an every down player, and essentially plays two positions. In a way similar to Kamerion Wimbley for the Raiders, on early downs heís a stand-up 4-3 outside linebacker, albeit often over-shifted to one side of the formation, but then on pass-rushing downs he rushes from his side of usually a four-man pass-rush. The difference between Miller and Wimbley in their deployment is that while Wimbley rushes almost exclusively as a conventional 4-3 defensive end with his hand in the ground, Miller will rush from a two-point stance and has only lined up as a 4-3 end on 112 of his 700 snaps. You know heís coming, but you donít always know when, he can just as easily drop into coverage from that stance.

Needless to say, Miller is sitting at the top of our 4-3 outside linebacker grades at the moment, and by some staggering margin. His +51.3 grade is some distance from his nearest challenger (Wimbley at +34.1) and more than double the next placed player (Daryl Smith of the Jaguars). The interesting thing, though, comes when you take away his pass-rushing and just look at the rest of his game. Focusing only on his play as a run defender and in coverage, he is still having an All-Pro caliber season. Baltimoreís Jarrett Johnson has been our top-graded 4-3 OLB against the run for the past two seasons, and has never been outside of the Top 3 in that regard since weíve been grading. Miller is currently as far ahead of Johnson as Johnson is from the rest of the field in run defense. He has stepped in as a rookie and is performing better than the standard set at the position for the past three seasons.

Able to use his quickness and strength to set the edge and torpedo through traffic on runs coming in his direction, even when he isnít making the play he is often disrupting it beyond repair for somebody else to finish it off. Miller is also the only linebacker in the league with more than 25 tackles that has yet to miss one. He trails only four other 4-3 outside linebackers in defensive stops (tackles which constitute an offensive failure), with 36, despite having far fewer tackling opportunities than most other linebackers that play in a more conventional alignment away from the line of scrimmage.

If all he did was play 4-3 outside linebacker we would be talking about him in terms of the Pro Bowl and All-Pro, heís that good at disrupting plays and making things happen, but Miller adds an extra dimension that most donít. When some linebackers are dropped to the bench or forced into uncomfortable roles in coverage against quicker receivers, Miller drops down to a pass-rushing role, and here is what thrusts him into Defensive Player of the Year talk.

Varied Attack Getting Stronger

Only two players (Miamiís Cameron Wake and Chris Long from the Rams) have totaled more combined pressures (sacks, hits and hurries) than Miller, and both have done so with more attempts at rushing the passer. When looking at our recent Pass Rushing Productivity article, we see that only one player, Cincinnatiís Carlos Dunlap, can top Millerís effectiveness as a pass-rushing force, and Dunlap remains something of a situational player in Cincinnati, with 100 fewer pass-rushes than Miller and almost 400 fewer snaps. He is rushing the passer more efficiently than almost anybody in the league, and the one player who can top him is being deliberately spelled in order to ensure he remains fresh when he rushes. Miller is matching that level of performance despite playing a role as a conventional linebacker in coverage and run support for the rest of the game.

The scary part is that when most rookies are running into the metaphorical wall, Miller seems to be getting stronger. His past four games have been his strongest four, and at the moment he is proving to be an adversary that right tackles canít contain. At 6í3 and 246lbs, he possesses an ability to dip and bend like few players that size. He is able to maintain such a low center of gravity that you could easily believe he was several inches shorter, but he also shows a range of pass rushing moves beyond most rookies.

Many rookies come into the league as athletic specimens, but relying heavily on one or two pass-rush moves with which they always look to succeed before developing more over the long-term. Looking through the sacks he has accumulated this season will show only two that have come without beating an offensive lineman, and he has recorded near instant sacks using outside moves, inside moves, bull rushes and stunts. Rarely do sacks tell the whole story, something weíre often at pains to point out at PFF, but if you drew up a highlight reel only of Millerís sacks this season, you would see an accomplished and varied arsenal of pass-rushing moves already mastered.

As a pass-rusher Miller has yet to be shut out this season and in only two games (both in his first three weeks of the season, one of which involved just nine pass rushes) has he been unable to record multiple pressures.



Best in a Decade

The way in which the Broncos use Miller means that for all intents and purposes he plays two positions for them, depending on the down and distance. What is truly remarkable is that, despite being a rookie, he is arguably the best player in the league right now at either spot. This might be the most dominant season from a rookie since Randy Moss defined the word Ďuncoverableí in his first year with a chip on his shoulder in 1998. Often we get caught up in hype over substance, but Miller might be one case of the substance far outstripping the hype, and we may be witnessing the best rookie performance in more than a decade. Forget Rookie of the Year, through 12 weeks Von Miller is the Defensive Player of the Year.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/12/01/stories-of-the-season-miller-much-more-than-the-roy/

Broncbow
12-01-2011, 07:31 AM
Defensive Player of the Year?

No doubt. Miller is hands down the best defensive player of the year~!! 8')

Kaylore
12-01-2011, 07:32 AM
TheRev Bert stare in 3......2......1.....

jhns
12-01-2011, 07:33 AM
Great read!

IHaveALight
12-01-2011, 07:39 AM
http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/masturbation/grand/frog_fap_gif.gif

Man-Goblin
12-01-2011, 07:44 AM
If he was a Steeler he'd be in the Hall of Fame already.

Kaylore
12-01-2011, 07:52 AM
If he was a Steeler, Cowboy, Giant or Redskin he'd be in the Hall of Fame already.

FYP

s0phr0syne
12-01-2011, 08:08 AM
Nice to see such a glowing endorsement for the Broncos' rook.

Before we all crown him, I'm just hoping he can sustain this kind of production through the rest of this season, and quite a few more to come!

HooptyHoops
12-01-2011, 08:39 AM
Miller is unreal....and when I read that article, I think I sell him short. What a find! And man, he is a BRONCO!

Garcia Bronco
12-01-2011, 09:00 AM
The last Bronco I ever saw take over the game from the defensive front 7 ...well...he still plays here. Add in another guy that's doing it and oh my...better work on that 3 step drop as an offense. :)

Chris
12-01-2011, 09:35 AM
Dare I say it but I can't but help this feeling that somehow we're going to lose this force (earth, fire, wind, water, miller) given how unlucky we've been over the last decade (really IMO since the last bowl victory). It's hard for me to accept that we've had such a successful pickup and I have nightmares that Von Miller somehow gets snatched by the Steelers or other teams I hate which, of course, is ridiculous... but it shows you how I've had to set my expectations for so long.

Time for that to change!

SonOfLe-loLang
12-01-2011, 09:43 AM
Dare I say it but I can't but help this feeling that somehow we're going to lose this force (earth, fire, wind, water, miller) given how unlucky we've been over the last decade (really IMO since the last bowl victory). It's hard for me to accept that we've had such a successful pickup and I have nightmares that Von Miller somehow gets snatched by the Steelers or other teams I hate which, of course, is ridiculous... but it shows you how I've had to set my expectations for so long.

Time for that to change!

Well he did tear ligaments in his thumb, so there ya have it

goldengopher1976
12-01-2011, 10:43 AM
And yet, I am willing to bet (and will be pissed when it happens), that either Cam Newton or Andy Dalton will win ROY (which is, according to this article, a lesser standard than what Miller has actually produced).

SonOfLe-loLang
12-01-2011, 11:10 AM
And yet, I am willing to bet (and will be pissed when it happens), that either Cam Newton or Andy Dalton will win ROY (which is, according to this article, a lesser standard than what Miller has actually produced).

theres one for Offense and Defense....so they will both win

Jason7730
12-01-2011, 12:58 PM
TheRev Bert stare in 3......2......1.....

Rev did say that Von being in the running for DPOY is "rediculous". Maybe it's not as far fetched as he thought. I really like, among other things, is how he has shown the knack for stepping up big-time when the game is on the line. For example tossing Wayne Hunter aside on his way to Trucking Sanchez at the end of that game and his splitting the double-team angainst the Chuggers and taking Tolbert down for that 4 yd. loss. Which in my opinion WAS the difference in that FG being good or not. It's almost like a Dream to have someone on our team that plays like this. Starting to remind me of the good old Orange Crush days, and even then we didn't have anyone quite like Von! Go Broncos!!!! :thumbs:

Broncoman13
12-01-2011, 01:07 PM
Big time props to EFX, I loved Miller coming out, but I was hesitant at the thought of a SLB that high in the draft. It took Fox and Allen a couple of weeks to work him into the defense but now he looks very comfortable. I have wondered a few times if he wasn't the best defender in the league. Now, that we are winning and the defense is largely resposible he is getting his due.

The winning will set him apart from guys like Allen, Wake, and Long. It has been a long time since a defensive rookie has had this kind of impact. Gotta give Allen and Fox a ton of credit for putting him in a position that takes advantage of his skills.

Keep up the winning and we will be taking home several annual awards, quite possibly including Coach of the year... Unless GB goes undefeated. Fox is number two on my short list right now, followed closely by Jim Harbaugh or is it John (49ers) and Marv Lewis.

SonOfLe-loLang
12-01-2011, 01:08 PM
Big time props to EFX, I loved Miller coming out, but I was hesitant at the thought of a SLB that high in the draft. It took Fox and Allen a couple of weeks to work him into the defense but now he looks very comfortable. I have wondered a few times if he wasn't the best defender in the league. Now, that we are winning and the defense is largely resposible he is getting his due.

The winning will set him apart from guys like Allen, Wake, and Long. It has been a long time since a defensive rookie has had this kind of impact. Gotta give Allen and Fox a ton of credit for putting him in a position that takes advantage of his skills.

Keep up the winning and we will be taking home several annual awards, quite possibly including Coach of the year... Unless GB goes undefeated. Fox is number two on my short list right now, followed closely by Jim Harbaugh or is it John (49ers) and Marv Lewis.

The bar is low if we are giving the front office a ton of credit for taking Miller. if thats the case, then give me and half this board who advocated the selection of Miller a job.

epicSocialism4tw
12-01-2011, 01:12 PM
It was funny when we started hearing rumors that the Broncos were going to draft Miller and people thought that he was some flash-in-the-pan prospect who was only considered because he had a good senior bowl. ;D

Those were good times.

Play2win
12-01-2011, 01:17 PM
Von Miller is the John Elway of passrushers... CLUTCH.

epicSocialism4tw
12-01-2011, 01:18 PM
Von Miller is the Tim Tebow of passrushers... CLUTCH.

Fixed, broseph. ;D

Shotgun Willie
12-01-2011, 01:30 PM
The bar is low if we are giving the front office a ton of credit for taking Miller. if thats the case, then give me and half this board who advocated the selection of Miller a job.

Half the board? Not even close.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=97681

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=3485

And I can't find any evidence of you advocating selecting him. This is the closest you seem to come, and I'd hardly call this an endorsement:

(some GREAT posts in this one)

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=96736

DrFate
12-01-2011, 02:43 PM
http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/teams.aspx

ChrisToker
12-01-2011, 07:19 PM
Will you rename this thread please. Put Timmays name somewhere in it so we can at least get a couple of pages for MILLERS greatness.

vonqkilla
12-01-2011, 08:05 PM
He's not even a 3 down player though, and he isnt in every package and right now trading him for PP would be smart.

Bert stare.

Agamemnon
12-01-2011, 08:09 PM
The bar is low if we are giving the front office a ton of credit for taking Miller. if thats the case, then give me and half this board who advocated the selection of Miller a job.

Indeed. It was a good pick, but I'm still waiting to see how the rest of the draft turns out. Right now Franklin looks solid and Quinton Carter has been pretty good, but the rest of our picks have been varying degrees of disappointing. Especially Rahim Moore.

Jason7730
12-02-2011, 12:29 PM
This was in Adam Schefters "10 spot" article over on ESPN. It looks like Von is starting to get more attention in the national media and indeed more consideration for talk of DPOY. Great to see. Maybe it's not so redicules that he can be in the conversation for Defensive Player of the Year.............

2. Great defenders: For all the Tebow talk, there needs to be some -- maybe a lot -- of talk about Denver's defense. A unit that ranked dead last in the NFL in total defense last season -- 31st in the NFL in run defense and 25th in the league in pass defense -- has been transformed into one of the league's top units. The biggest difference-makers have been pass-rushers Von Miller (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13976/von-miller) and Elvis Dumervil (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9712/elvis-dumervil), each of whom has recorded at least a half-sack in every game during Denver's current four-game winning streak.
But Neil Hornsby of profootballfocus.com did a bit more digging into Miller's numbers and how they compared with the rest of the NFL and found numbers that shed light on why Denver's linebacker is the leading candidate for Defensive Rookie of the Year. Miller's 10.5 sacks rank third in the league to DeMarcus Ware (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8426/demarcus-ware)'s 14. Miller has an NFL-high 18 quarterback hits. He has 26 quarterback hurries and, maybe as impressive as any stat, he has not missed a single tackle all season. The numbers prove that Miller not only should win the Defensive Rookie of the Year, but also is a legitimate candidate -- maybe even the leading contender -- for the NFL's Defensive Player of the Year ahead of Patrick Willis (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10455/patrick-willis), Darrelle Revis (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10458/darrelle-revis) or any other defensive player. No one has had a bigger impact than Miller.

vonqkilla
12-02-2011, 01:02 PM
Lol at no missed tackles.

I appreciate the hyper analysis more than anyone as the microscope on the nfl is dialed in closer and closer each year.

But even as his biggest fan, I focus on him just about every play presnap and during the play, and missed assignments, gaps responsibility, consistency, & pass defense are all lacking.

In other words:

What he does well he does off the charts, but what he doesn't have experience in he suffers. If he can improve in those areas up to a consistent pro level, with all pro pass rush and run stuffing skills, explosion, etc...

He'll be the best LB.

Right now, he's playing like a freakish talent that is killing whatever happens to be unfortunately for them holding the rock. He's like the tazmanian devil, but unbridled smashing into the right tackle and not maintaining your gap gives guys like tolbert the cutback and ss carter a td saving open field tackle.

Consistency, and playing in space. He gets that down, he will be the best LB.