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epicSocialism4tw
11-28-2011, 02:24 AM
"Denver coach John Fox asked Tebow to address the team the night before this AFC West showdown.

"He said iron sharpens iron and men sharpen other men. And I think that's totally true," Miller said. "He gave us a great speech. We came out (for the game) fired up. And that was a wrap."

...

Tebow was stopped dead in his tracks when told his speech on game's eve had touched the hearts of teammates. "It was a huge honor," Tebow said of being given the opportunity. "I just tried to share from the heart."

There are more talented squads in the NFL. But right here, right now, nobody in the league is playing with more heart than the Broncos."

Read more: Kiszla: Tebow's Ironman sermon - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_19423660#ixzz1ezSOp6x1

AZorange1
11-28-2011, 04:02 AM
excellent speech and timely. Something special happening here

riiiiick
11-28-2011, 05:26 AM
No stats kept on this kind of football and it's confounding the "wise men" talking heads!

Broncbow
11-28-2011, 08:02 AM
Tebow has inspired this team to play better. But for some reason the glory is being hyjacked from Tebow by John Fox and John Elway. It is as if they are hell bent on insuring that Tebows pasing game, is the last thing that takes the Glory off the field. This has been the mantra since Elway Brought John Fox in this season.

The emperical data speaks for itself. There is now a body of work that actually exposes the conspiracy not to just stunt Tebows development, but to shut down Tebows passing game.

Agamemnon
11-28-2011, 08:11 AM
"Denver coach John Fox asked Tebow to address the team the night before this AFC West showdown.

"He said iron sharpens iron and men sharpen other men. And I think that's totally true," Miller said. "He gave us a great speech. We came out (for the game) fired up. And that was a wrap."

...

Tebow was stopped dead in his tracks when told his speech on game's eve had touched the hearts of teammates. "It was a huge honor," Tebow said of being given the opportunity. "I just tried to share from the heart."

There are more talented squads in the NFL. But right here, right now, nobody in the league is playing with more heart than the Broncos."

Read more: Kiszla: Tebow's Ironman sermon - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_19423660#ixzz1ezSOp6x1

It's encouraging to see Fox embracing Tebow's leadership by asking him to do that. That's not something a coach does unless he believes in a player. Now if only he would open up the ****ing offense a bit...

BroncoDoom
11-28-2011, 08:14 AM
Tebow has inspired this team to play better. But for some reason the glory is being hyjacked from Tebow by John Fox and John Elway. It is as if they are hell bent on insuring that Tebows pasing game, is the last thing that takes the Glory off the field. This has been the mantra since Elway Brought John Fox in this season.

The emperical data speaks for itself. There is now a body of work that actually exposes the conspiracy not to just stunt Tebows development, but to shut down Tebows passing game.

Takes the "Glory" off the field? Isn't winning the ultimate "Glory?" Shut up. That's it.

Agamemnon
11-28-2011, 08:18 AM
Tebow has inspired this team to play better. But for some reason the glory is being hyjacked from Tebow by John Fox and John Elway. It is as if they are hell bent on insuring that Tebows pasing game, is the last thing that takes the Glory off the field. This has been the mantra since Elway Brought John Fox in this season.

The emperical data speaks for itself. There is now a body of work that actually exposes the conspiracy not to just stunt Tebows development, but to shut down Tebows passing game.

Seriously dude, just stop. God knows I'm not a fan of how EFX have handled Tebow on or off the field, but it isn't an evil conspiracy to destroy the kid. It's people making mistakes. That's something people are very good at generally speaking.

bronco_diesel
11-28-2011, 08:24 AM
Tebow has inspired this team to play better. But for some reason the glory is being hyjacked from Tebow by John Fox and John Elway. It is as if they are hell bent on insuring that Tebows pasing game, is the last thing that takes the Glory off the field. This has been the mantra since Elway Brought John Fox in this season.

The emperical data speaks for itself. There is now a body of work that actually exposes the conspiracy not to just stunt Tebows development, but to shut down Tebows passing game.


I wouldn't say that John Fox is hijacking anything. He put Tebow in as the starter, restructed the offense to help him succeed (in spite of conventional wisdom) and now has asked him to address the team. I would say he has embraced Tim Tebow...maybe it took longer than some of us wanted, but he's setting the kid up to succeed.

Elway is doing his job. Maybe we'd like him to soften his comments a bit. My take is who cares (right now) about the QBOTF...we have the QB for RIGHT NOW and are in the playoff hunt. My personal preference is to set aside all that talk and focus on right now. With that said though, whatever they are doing, it is working....keeping the pressure on TT might be part of the success. We know he excels under the pressure...so why change it now?

SureShot
11-28-2011, 09:16 AM
Von really is Tebow's biggest fan.

Wes Mantooth
11-28-2011, 11:16 AM
Tebow has inspired this team to play better. But for some reason the glory is being hyjacked from Tebow by John Fox and John Elway. It is as if they are hell bent on insuring that Tebows pasing game, is the last thing that takes the Glory off the field. This has been the mantra since Elway Brought John Fox in this season.

The emperical data speaks for itself. There is now a body of work that actually exposes the conspiracy not to just stunt Tebows development, but to shut down Tebows passing game.

the only thing being hijacked is this thread by you.

Agamemnon
11-28-2011, 11:17 AM
Von really is Tebow's biggest fan.

Birds of a feather. Both are straight up ballers.

crush17
11-28-2011, 11:24 AM
Broncbow to the ignore list, STAT!

Shotgun Willie
11-28-2011, 11:41 AM
"He gave us a great speech. We came out (for the game) fired up. And that was a wrap."


Nice link, but really it's just fluff IMO.

1. I've never heard a speech that was so good it got me pumped up 18 or so hours later. A halftime speech can certainly carry over to the 2nd half of a game, but the night before?

2. They came out so fired up they promptly went down 10-0 and didn't score until there was less than a minute to go in the first half.

SureShot
11-28-2011, 11:45 AM
Nice link, but really it's just fluff IMO.

1. I've never heard a speech that was so good it got me pumped up 18 or so hours later. A halftime speech can certainly carry over to the 2nd half of a game, but the night before?

2. They came out so fired up they promptly went down 10-0 and didn't score until there was less than a minute to go in the first half.

Are you calling Von Miller a liar mutha****er?

Agamemnon
11-28-2011, 11:50 AM
Nice link, but really it's just fluff IMO.

1. I've never heard a speech that was so good it got me pumped up 18 or so hours later. A halftime speech can certainly carry over to the 2nd half of a game, but the night before?

2. They came out so fired up they promptly went down 10-0 and didn't score until there was less than a minute to go in the first half.

This is you:
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001541483/giant-douche-38682919729_xlarge.jpeg

cutthemdown
11-28-2011, 12:10 PM
Nice link, but really it's just fluff IMO.

1. I've never heard a speech that was so good it got me pumped up 18 or so hours later. A halftime speech can certainly carry over to the 2nd half of a game, but the night before?

2. They came out so fired up they promptly went down 10-0 and didn't score until there was less than a minute to go in the first half.

When a man tells me he was inspired who am I to argue? How is it your place to say because you fail to have things carry over that other men are as lame?

Dr. Broncenstein
11-28-2011, 12:11 PM
Nice link, but really it's just fluff IMO.

1. I've never heard a speech that was so good it got me pumped up 18 or so hours later. A halftime speech can certainly carry over to the 2nd half of a game, but the night before?

2. They came out so fired up they promptly went down 10-0 and didn't score until there was less than a minute to go in the first half.

Over it, thou shall become.

Bronx33
11-28-2011, 12:34 PM
Nice link, but really it's just fluff IMO.

1. I've never heard a speech that was so good it got me pumped up 18 or so hours later. A halftime speech can certainly carry over to the 2nd half of a game, but the night before?

2. They came out so fired up they promptly went down 10-0 and didn't score until there was less than a minute to go in the first half.


I give you proof

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/L1qcae9rdZc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

TheReverend
11-28-2011, 12:41 PM
Regardless of what it is, they need to STAY ruthless.

We can't let up now. The Vikings are floundering but still dangerous. We need to put them out of it early and do what Denver does best with keep away football.

5 games to go and we have a shot at this. But only if they stay vigilant and fierce.

AlphaSeirra
11-28-2011, 12:47 PM
No stats kept on this kind of football and it's confounding the "wise men" talking heads!

And it makes me wonder what stats Fox/Elway are using to judge Tebow on ???

Would Rookie Elway have passed the E-VP Saint John Standards back in the day?

1st 7 Starts as a Bronco QB Comparison:

Elway --------- Tebow
2-5 ----W/L ---- 4-3
44.4% - Comp% - 47.2%
757 - Pass Yds - 1,177
1/9 --- TD/Int --- 10-4
37.2 ---- PER ---- 78.7

Those are no spurious or random stats, but rather the On The Field proven stats/facts.

And just maybe, that's a big part of the Tebow fans disgust at how Tim's been/being treated by some.

Popps
11-28-2011, 12:50 PM
Tebow has inspired this team to play better. But for some reason the glory is being hyjacked from Tebow by John Fox and John Elway. It is as if they are hell bent on insuring that Tebows pasing game, is the last thing that takes the Glory off the field. This has been the mantra since Elway Brought John Fox in this season.

The emperical data speaks for itself. There is now a body of work that actually exposes the conspiracy not to just stunt Tebows development, but to shut down Tebows passing game.

Duuuuude, relax! They're going to bench him soon, anyway. See, he's got this clause in his contract that escalates if he plays enough games.....................

DeuceOfClub
11-28-2011, 01:29 PM
Don't you use stone to sharpen iron?

Dagmar
11-28-2011, 01:40 PM
Tebow has inspired this team to play better. But for some reason the glory is being hyjacked from Tebow by John Fox and John Elway. It is as if they are hell bent on insuring that Tebows pasing game, is the last thing that takes the Glory off the field. This has been the mantra since Elway Brought John Fox in this season.

The emperical data speaks for itself. There is now a body of work that actually exposes the conspiracy not to just stunt Tebows development, but to shut down Tebows passing game.

Alt!

Bronx33
11-28-2011, 02:34 PM
you ever hear that theme song from doctor who?

OrangeSe7en
11-28-2011, 02:40 PM
Birds of a feather. Both are straight up ballers.

The thing that's awesome is that they both raise their game in crunch time. We have something special here, I feel and I very much want to see where this goes with these to guys.

OrangeSe7en
11-28-2011, 02:42 PM
And it makes me wonder what stats Fox/Elway are using to judge Tebow on ???

Would Rookie Elway have passed the E-VP Saint John Standards back in the day?

1st 7 Starts as a Bronco QB Comparison:

Elway --------- Tebow
2-5 ----W/L ---- 4-3
44.4% - Comp% - 47.2%
757 - Pass Yds - 1,177
1/9 --- TD/Int --- 10-4
37.2 ---- PER ---- 78.7

Those are no spurious or random stats, but rather the On The Field proven stats/facts.

And just maybe, that's a big part of the Tebow fans disgust at how Tim's been/being treated by some.

Not to take away from your point but it's a lot easier to pass now than when John was a rookie.

55CrushEm
11-28-2011, 02:48 PM
Something happening here

...what it is, ain't exactly clear.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-28-2011, 02:49 PM
There's a man with a gun over there.

55CrushEm
11-28-2011, 02:51 PM
Tellin me I got to beware

SportinOne
11-28-2011, 02:58 PM
With the toothy smile that made him almost as famous as his big right arm, Elway offered Tebow congratulations near midfield during the victory celebration.
Coming from the biggest legend in Broncos history, this qualified as more than a slap on the back for Tebow. It was a seal of approval.

This seems a bit presumptuous...

Pony Boy
11-28-2011, 02:59 PM
Don't you use stone to sharpen iron?

Yes and rocks crush scissors .....

Smilin Assassin
11-28-2011, 03:29 PM
Tebow has inspired this team to play better. But for some reason the glory is being hyjacked from Tebow by John Fox and John Elway. It is as if they are hell bent on insuring that Tebows pasing game, is the last thing that takes the Glory off the field. This has been the mantra since Elway Brought John Fox in this season.

The emperical data speaks for itself. There is now a body of work that actually exposes the conspiracy not to just stunt Tebows development, but to shut down Tebows passing game.


lol...

Dude, ya gotta stop. Enjoy the win and quit lookin for black helicopters.

Mile High Mojoe
11-28-2011, 03:32 PM
Nice link, but really it's just fluff IMO.

1. I've never heard a speech that was so good it got me pumped up 18 or so hours later. A halftime speech can certainly carry over to the 2nd half of a game, but the night before?

2. They came out so fired up they promptly went down 10-0 and didn't score until there was less than a minute to go in the first half.

Wet blanket duly noted.

Pony Boy
11-28-2011, 03:35 PM
Nice link, but really it's just fluff IMO.

1. I've never heard a speech that was so good it got me pumped up 18 or so hours later. A halftime speech can certainly carry over to the 2nd half of a game, but the night before?

2. They came out so fired up they promptly went down 10-0 and didn't score until there was less than a minute to go in the first half.

I'm in such a great mood today and nothing you can say is gonna take me down....... what a great day to be a Bronco fan ......

Mile High Mojoe
11-28-2011, 03:39 PM
I'm in such a great mood today and nothing you can say is gonna take me down....... what a great day to be a Bronco fan ......

I only wish more could, winning isn't enough for WAY WAY to many fans on this board. Itís pathetic they arenít happy inside their own hula hoop so they have to wizz all over everyone else to try to make them feel the same.

Mile High Mojoe
11-28-2011, 03:41 PM
Duuuuude, relax! They're going to bench him soon, anyway. See, he's got this clause in his contract that escalates if he plays enough games.....................

You don't really believe this do you?

Rohirrim
11-28-2011, 03:42 PM
Think it's time we stop now.

Mile High Mojoe
11-28-2011, 03:48 PM
Think it's time we stop now.

You like derailing Epic's threads don't you?

Rohirrim
11-28-2011, 04:01 PM
You like derailing Epic's threads don't you?

http://dudelol.com/img/joke-went-over-your-head.gif

Agamemnon
11-28-2011, 04:43 PM
Not to take away from your point but it's a lot easier to pass now than when John was a rookie.

That's true. Probably why all Tebow's other stats, outside of completion percentage, blow his away.

broncocalijohn
11-28-2011, 04:47 PM
Tebow has inspired this team to play better. But for some reason the glory is being hyjacked from Tebow by John Fox and John Elway.

seems the only hyjacking is you in this thread. Just stop. You are sooo close :welcome:

You don't really believe this do you?

Then you get the ones who are so tightly wound up that they can't see sarcasm when it smacks them in the face.

ghwk
11-28-2011, 04:51 PM
I think I'm more concerned about the men sharpening men comment. Sounds painful and Sanduskyish to me.

cutthemdown
11-28-2011, 05:15 PM
Not to take away from your point but it's a lot easier to pass now than when John was a rookie.

Yep you could take 3 steps back then, hit qb in the head, grab the wr more, and generally play more physical then today.