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epicSocialism4tw
11-27-2011, 11:43 PM
There is no chance that this once-one-and-four squad can make the playoffs. Its impossible. Denver is going to lose out with a combined score of 1,752 to 5 or something similar. But if the Broncos were to, say, win some games and put themselves in contention, then this is what they are up against:

AFC West

Broncos 6-5
-division record: 3-2
-conference record: 6-3
-remaining schedule: @MIN, CHI, NE, @BUF, KC

Raiders 7-4
-division record: 2-2
-conference record: 5-4
-remaining schedule: @MIA, @GB, DET, @KC, SD

AFC Wild Card Contenders

Pittsburgh: 8-3
-division record: 1-2
-conference record: 6-3
-remaining schedule: CIN, CLE, @SF, STL, @CLE

Baltimore: 8-3
-division record: 3-0
-conference record: 5-2
-remaining schedule: @CLE, IND, @SD, CLE, @CIN

Cincinatti: 7-4
-division record: 2-2
-conference record: 6-3
-remaining schedule: @PIT, HOU, @STL, ARI, BAL

NY Jets: 6-5
-division record: 3-2
-conference record: 5-5
-remaining schedule: @WAS, KC, @PHI, NYG, @MIA

Tennessee: 6-5
-division record: 1-2
-conference record: 4-4
-remaining schedule: @BUF, NO, @IND, JAC, @HOU

Buffalo: 5-6
-division record: 1-3
-conference record: 3-4
-remaining schedule: TEN, @SD, MIA, DEN, @NE

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Here's what I think can happen:

Denver finishes on a 4-1 tear, ending up at 10-6 (hard to believe that this is possible after the disasterous start).

Oakland finishes 3-2 ending up at 10-6.

Denver wins the division based on division and conference tie breakers.

Pittsburgh ends up 12-4
Baltimore 12-4
Cincy ends up 9-7
NY ends up 9-7
Tennessee ends up 8-8
Buffalo ends up 7-9

So, you have both Denver and Oakland making the playoffs.

Denver gets a first round match-up with Pittsburgh.

SoCalBronco
11-27-2011, 11:48 PM
Looking at the schedule, I think we have a good chance to get to 9 wins, but we'll have to hit 10 to hold Oakland off, who I think will win at least 2 more and possibly 3.

Borks147
11-27-2011, 11:49 PM
Denver gets a first round match-up with Pittsburgh.

What a pass-happy shoot out that would be, huh? Amirite?

epicSocialism4tw
11-27-2011, 11:50 PM
Looking at the schedule, I think we have a good chance to get to 9 wins, but we'll have to hit 10 to hold Oakland off, who I think will win at least 2 more and possibly 3.

Its great that we hold tie breakers over Cincy and NY, because it might come down to head-to-head against one or both of those squads as to whether or not the Broncos get a wild card.

epicSocialism4tw
11-27-2011, 11:52 PM
What a pass-happy shoot out that would be, huh? Amirite?

That would be an epic slam-fest.

It could potentially be a Broncos classic slugfest like we saw in 1997. The Tebow media parade with a backdrop of the Pittsburgh fan kingdom...epic.

If we won the division, would they award home field based on record or based on conference title?

Archer81
11-27-2011, 11:58 PM
Chicago and NE are going to be tough games. Completely winnable if things break right. Buffalo is a schitzo team, no idea who will show up that day. KC is always tough...but motivation to beat pocket sloth? Priceless.

:Broncos:

epicSocialism4tw
11-28-2011, 12:01 AM
Chicago and NE are going to be tough games. Completely winnable if things break right. Buffalo is a schitzo team, no idea who will show up that day. KC is always tough...but motivation to beat pocket sloth? Priceless.

:Broncos:

I was wary about the Buffalo game, but they are on the exact opposite trajectory of the Broncos. They have lost 4 straight.

SoCalBronco
11-28-2011, 12:02 AM
Chicago and NE are going to be tough games. Completely winnable if things break right. Buffalo is a schitzo team, no idea who will show up that day. KC is always tough...but motivation to beat pocket sloth? Priceless.

:Broncos:

Chicago is nothing without Jay. I expect to win that game. NE will be almost impossible to win, they are playing at an extremely high level right now.

Borks147
11-28-2011, 12:09 AM
That would be an epic slam-fest.

It could potentially be a Broncos classic slugfest like we saw in 1997. The Tebow media parade with a backdrop of the Pittsburgh fan kingdom...epic.

If we won the division, would they award home field based on record or based on conference title?

As I recall, people were clamoring for the home field to go to the team with the better record after Seattle won the division at 7-9, but then people stfu when Seattle won against the Saints.

Archer81
11-28-2011, 12:09 AM
Chicago is nothing without Jay. I expect to win that game. NE will be almost impossible to win, they are playing at an extremely high level right now.


Chicago's defense is pretty damn good, and ST's only has to make one mistake with Hester. NE's defense is horrible. We will move the football. We need to score more than 16 to 20 points, however and VonDoom need to make Brady eat turf on a consistent basis. I'm pretty sure the Broncos wrote the book on how to consistently beat Tom Brady. Hit him, he gets flustered and his accuracy dips.

:Broncos:

DBroncos4life
11-28-2011, 12:11 AM
Chicago is nothing without Jay. I expect to win that game. NE will be almost impossible to win, they are playing at an extremely high level right now.

It sucks the Jets won. We need NE to to need to have that division locked up and looking to rest.

epicSocialism4tw
11-28-2011, 12:12 AM
Chicago is nothing without Jay. I expect to win that game. NE will be almost impossible to win, they are playing at an extremely high level right now.

True on both accounts. Id say that the Chicago game is now winnable. Hanie will give the ball away. NE are just clinical on offense.

BUT...the home crowd will be buzzing about that NE game. The playoffs may be in sight and Broncos fans have a particular distaste for the Belichek-Brady road show. That game will be awesome, and the offense is moving forward.

Nwp-Apap
11-28-2011, 12:33 AM
:Denver Finishes on a 4-1 tear, ending up at 10-6 (hard to believe that this is possible after the disasterous start).

Oakland finishes 3-2 ending up at 10-6.

Denver wins the division based on division and conference tie breakers.

Pittsburgh ends up 12-4
Baltimore 12-4
Cincy ends up 9-7
NY ends up 9-7
Tennessee ends up 8-8
Buffalo ends up 7-9

So, you have both Denver and Oakland making the playoffs.

Denver gets a first round match-up with Pittsburgh.

If that were the case the seeding should be

1. New England (presumably) >12-4

2. Baltimore 12-4

3. Denver 10-6

4. Tennessee 8-8

5. Pittsburg 12-4

6. Oakland 10-6


Due to the seeding, NE and BAL would have 1st round byes, and the four remaining (DEN, TEN, PITT, OAK) would play the first round, tourney style, meaning we would play Oakland, would we not? As the 3 plays the 6 seed and the 4 plays the 5 typically yes?

epicSocialism4tw
11-28-2011, 12:36 AM
If that were the case the seeding should be

1. New England (presumably) >12-4

2. Baltimore 12-4

3. Denver 10-6

4. Tennessee 8-8

5. Pittsburg 12-4

6. Oakland 10-6


Due to the seeding, NE and BAL would have 1st round byes, and the four remaining (DEN, TEN, PITT, OAK) would play the first round, tourney style, meaning we would play Oakland, would we not? As the 3 plays the 6 seed and the 4 plays the 5 typically yes?

I figured that Houston would beat out Tennessee. Theyre at 8 wins right now.

That would make Denver probably the 4 seed.

But if it worked out that we got to watch Oakland at Denver in a playoff game, that would be fantastic.

Nwp-Apap
11-28-2011, 12:45 AM
I figured that Houston would beat out Tennessee. Theyre at 8 wins right now.

That would make Denver probably the 4 seed.

But if it worked out that we got to watch Oakland at Denver in a playoff game, that would be fantastic.


Oh! I see, my apologies.

Orange4Life
11-28-2011, 12:51 AM
I see us going 1-4 in those games. If we get extremely lucky that is.

Blart
11-28-2011, 12:57 AM
I assume you believe Oakland will lose to GB and DET, but I'd like to add Miami to the list.

Dolphins have turned things around in November. Their defense has demolished KC, the Skins and Buffalo, keeping them all to single digits, and they barely lost to Dallas.

Oakland loses next week.

Archer81
11-28-2011, 01:18 AM
If that were the case the seeding should be

1. New England (presumably) >12-4

2. Baltimore 12-4

3. Denver 10-6

4. Tennessee 8-8

5. Pittsburg 12-4

6. Oakland 10-6

?


Houston has 1 game remaining against Indy, dont they? That's 9 wins right there. At the moment they are the 1 seed. Rumors about them going after Jeff Garcia, which would not be that big a drop off from leinart. I dont see Tenn making the playoffs.

At any rate...

Hou @ 12-4
Balt @ 12-4
NE @ 11-5
Denver @ 10-6
Pittsburgh @ 10-6
Oak/Cinci @ 9-7

All of this of course is fantasy. But stranger things have happened.

:Broncos:

Dagmar
11-28-2011, 01:50 AM
True on both accounts. Id say that the Chicago game is now winnable. Hanie will give the ball away. NE are just clinical on offense.

BUT...the home crowd will be buzzing about that NE game. The playoffs may be in sight and Broncos fans have a particular distaste for the Belichek-Brady road show. That game will be awesome, and the offense is moving forward.

And I bet it's flexed for NBC, it's not like they are keeping the Ravens Chargers!

eddie mac
11-28-2011, 02:03 AM
1 game at a time folks. Win in Minnesota is all we need to focus on right now. Get down on one knee and tebowishbone it.

BroncoMan4ever
11-28-2011, 02:19 AM
Chicago and NE are going to be tough games. Completely winnable if things break right. Buffalo is a schitzo team, no idea who will show up that day. KC is always tough...but motivation to beat pocket sloth? Priceless.

:Broncos:

our shot against Chicago went up dramatically with Cutler's injury. Hanie is either working through rust, or his playoff performance last season was a fluke.

Buffalo is a team that has shot themselves in the foot and now that the division is almost completely out of their reach are now coasting to the finish.

KC, regardless of the QB situation is a divisional game and always a hard fought game that can go either way. the advantage rests with Denver in potentially facing Orton and their mediocre line. only bad part is that Orton knows how to play against our secondary, so the burden falls on Miller and Doom to plant him into the field.

NE is a game i never count as an automatic loss for Denver. i know different regimes more than likely changes the likely outcomes of these matchups, but it is also likely that NE has that thought in the back of their minds that they don't like to tangle with Denver.

i think we go 4-1 over the rest of the season, but i believe we have a legit shot in all of them.

tsiguy96
11-28-2011, 03:33 AM
denver matches up well against any team in the NFL right now, given that they can run the ball and are stopping pretty much everything. cant wait for the NE game, but gotta put them away one at a time.

TotallyScrewed
11-28-2011, 05:03 AM
QFT - "i believe we have a legit shot in all of them".

This sort of optimism is a far cry from what any of us has had in the past few years. It's unreal and it's fun.

Playoffs?!?!? Playoffs!!!

rbackfactory80
11-28-2011, 05:43 AM
We could get 11 wins this year. Maybe a rematch versus the Bengals at home in the playoffs.

I'm telling you in the playoffs all games get tighter, more pressure, harder to score. We get in the tournament, who knows.

I would love to see the Ravens in round two.

We need to stay away from NE until we can put up 30ish points.

Rolandftw
11-28-2011, 06:38 AM
Should be exciting the last 5 games. Certainly the schedule gives Denver a good chance, but Denver's still on the outside looking in. Need Oakland to fade late.

Dedhed
11-28-2011, 06:55 AM
1 game at a time folks. Win in Minnesota is all we need to focus on right now. Get down on one knee and tebowishbone it.

Yup. This has "trap game" written all over it.

Kid A
11-28-2011, 07:24 AM
Based on schedule and how teams are playing right now - I'd say Denver and Oakland both finish 9-7, tiebreaker going our way when the Raiders drop either the SD or KC game.

But I've also never seen an NFL season where every team stayed consistently good or bad in the final weeks. It would be fitting for this team to trail the division all year and have a shot to take it in week 17...

Agamemnon
11-28-2011, 07:30 AM
Chicago is nothing without Jay. I expect to win that game. NE will be almost impossible to win, they are playing at an extremely high level right now.

We always beat the Patriots, and we have the one thing that causes Brady trouble: a dominant pass rush. I'm not predicting a win, but it certainly won't surprise me.

Agamemnon
11-28-2011, 07:33 AM
1 game at a time folks. Win in Minnesota is all we need to focus on right now. Get down on one knee and tebowishbone it.

The one game at a time thing is for people who actually play the games. The fans looking ahead hardly means anything one way or the other.

tsiguy96
11-28-2011, 07:34 AM
Yup. This has "trap game" written all over it.

as long as von/doom continue, they should be fine. especially if AP is still out. but my biggest concern is this is a team to beat with the pass first, dont know if denver will move that way or continue with whats been working so far? will be interesting for a gameplan perspective.

Spider
11-28-2011, 07:36 AM
wild card round vs Bengals

Spider
11-28-2011, 07:37 AM
1 game at a time folks. Win in Minnesota is all we need to focus on right now. Get down on one knee and tebowishbone it.

why do we need to focus 1 game at a time ? we game planning ? Playing ?

DrFate
11-28-2011, 07:43 AM
Yup. This has "trap game" written all over it.

Minnesota has more than enough ability to beat the Broncos

Keys to the game will be (as usual)
stop the run
rush the passer
limit turnovers

The secret key will be 'contain Harvin'. He's a real impact player.

Hopefully we'll see another dominant defensive effort, no turnovers, and another win :thumbsup:

Agamemnon
11-28-2011, 07:46 AM
Minnesota has more than enough ability to beat the Broncos

Keys to the game will be (as usual)
stop the run
rush the passer
limit turnovers

The secret key will be 'contain Harvin'. He's a real impact player.

Hopefully we'll see another dominant defensive effort, no turnovers, and another win :thumbsup:

Every team in the league (other than the Colts Ha!) has the ability to beat us. This is still not a talented team, even with the win streak.

Spider
11-28-2011, 07:48 AM
a 6-5 team never has a trap game .........

DrFate
11-28-2011, 07:49 AM
Every team in the league (other than the Colts Ha!) has the ability to beat us. This is still not a talented team, even with the win streak.

That's certainly true. It's often about matchups, turnovers, and level of play on a given day. I felt pretty confident Denver would beat the Jets, for example. I felt Denver would have little chance against the Bears (that changes with Hanie, of course). I think Denver SHOULD win against KC and Buffalo later this season.

My point - the Vikings are more dangerous than their record would indicate. They have a number of explosive players and a play or two could make the game.

spdirty
11-28-2011, 08:39 AM
I don't want to look ahead right now. Let's just concentrate on Minnesota. We win that and we should be tied for first.

maher_tyler
11-28-2011, 09:28 AM
QFT - "i believe we have a legit shot in all of them".

This sort of optimism is a far cry from what any of us has had in the past few years. It's unreal and it's fun.

Playoffs?!?!? Playoffs!!!

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Quoydogs
11-28-2011, 09:48 AM
I see us going 1-4 in those games. If we get extremely lucky that is.

Really ?

ScottXray
11-28-2011, 10:18 AM
1 game at a time folks. Win in Minnesota is all we need to focus on right now. Get down on one knee and tebowishbone it.

Truth.

Until we get to 9 wins, or Oakland loses 3, the playoffs are not in discussion.

One game at a time is the rule, and what we should be talking about.

Another tough road game coming up , especially if AP plays, and also Percy Harvin is the x factor. Lets get to 7 wins next, and then worry about #8.

Agamemnon
11-28-2011, 10:20 AM
Truth.

Until we get to 9 wins, or Oakland loses 3, the playoffs are not in discussion.

One game at a time is the rule, and what we should be talking about.

Another tough road game coming up , especially if AP plays, and also Percy Harvin is the x factor. Lets get to 7 wins next, and then worry about #8.

Again, we don't actually play the games. It doesn't affect anything if we look forward. You guys are hilarious.

enjolras
11-28-2011, 10:27 AM
Your missing something here. The division tie-breakers are:

1. Head-to-head (will be a tie with Oak)
2. Division record
3. Record in games in common <------

That's the tricky part here. If Oakland beats KC and SD, then it goes to common games. Which is really complicated right now as basically every remaining game is a game in common. I think we're tied right now for that particular tie-breaker.

Best case is that the Raiders lose to either KC or SD and give Broncos the division tie-breaker (with a win over KC).

Al Wilson
11-28-2011, 10:33 AM
If we win out we might have a chance for a bye week. One can dream right?

Agamemnon
11-28-2011, 10:34 AM
Your missing something here. The division tie-breakers are:

1. Head-to-head (will be a tie with Oak)
2. Division record
3. Record in games in common <------

That's the tricky part here. If Oakland beats KC and SD, then it goes to common games. Which is really complicated right now as basically every remaining game is a game in common. I think we're tied right now for that particular tie-breaker.

Best case is that the Raiders lose to either KC or SD and give Broncos the division tie-breaker (with a win over KC).

I though conference record was number three. Hmm...

eddie mac
11-28-2011, 10:39 AM
The one game at a time thing is for people who actually play the games. The fans looking ahead hardly means anything one way or the other.

The comments were made from a personal viewpoint as I am not looking beyond the Vikings, maybe the wording could've been different but I'm sure you catch my drift now. All I want is for my team to be competitive and if it continues to pick up wins (even better).

BroncoBeavis
11-28-2011, 10:41 AM
We always beat the Patriots, and we have the one thing that causes Brady trouble: a dominant pass rush. I'm not predicting a win, but it certainly won't surprise me.

I've been to probably 6 or 7 Broncos games over the last decade or so. I've never seen them lose.

I'm going to the Patriots game. Expect Victory.

If you guys want to chip in for gas, that'd be great. :D

Agamemnon
11-28-2011, 10:42 AM
The comments were made from a personal viewpoint as I am not looking beyond the Vikings, maybe the wording could've been different but I'm sure you catch my drift now.

You mean you don't want to get your hopes up? Yeah I get that.

Agamemnon
11-28-2011, 10:44 AM
I've been to probably 6 or 7 Broncos games over the last decade or so. I've never seen them lose.

I'm going to the Patriots game. Expect Victory.

If you guys want to chip in for gas, that'd be great. :D

If you can back that up, maybe we should figure out a way to get you season tickets...

eddie mac
11-28-2011, 10:45 AM
You mean you don't want to get your hopes up? Yeah I get that.

That's it in a nutshell. I'm under no illusions that this team is boxing above it's weight at present.

BroncoBeavis
11-28-2011, 10:47 AM
If you can back that up, maybe we should figure out a way to get you season tickets...

Just got 'em this year actually. Hit me at a bad time, but when your number's called, you make it work :)

Hoping to make 3 this year. Did the Jets, doing the Pats. Hope to do the Cheaps game, not 100% on that though.

Yoda
11-28-2011, 11:42 AM
Looking at the remaining schedule for your beloved Broncos and my Raiders....this looks like the BEST chance for Denver to tie with the Raiders. The only chance? No, but the best. Denver faces a down in the dumps Vikings team w/out AP and the Raiders face a scrappy but dangerous Dolphins team. If the Raiders win this Sunday, Denver will be hard pressed to catch up. This is weekend games are pivotal for both teams.

Bronx33
11-28-2011, 11:46 AM
Looking at the remaining schedule for your beloved Broncos and my Raiders....this looks like the BEST chance for Denver to tie with the Raiders. The only chance? No, but the best. Denver faces a down in the dumps Vikings team w/out AP and the Raiders face a scrappy but dangerous Dolphins team. If the Raiders win this Sunday, Denver will be hard pressed to catch up. This is weekend games are pivotal for both teams.



Enjoy being humiliated in the first round.

Yoda
11-28-2011, 11:50 AM
Enjoy being humiliated in the first round.

Yawn

Bronx33
11-28-2011, 11:51 AM
Yawn


that's what your opponent will be doing.

Yoda
11-28-2011, 11:57 AM
You have anything intelligent to say, I positively added to this thread and you come back sophomoric banter.

Bronx33
11-28-2011, 11:57 AM
yawn

Rolandftw
11-28-2011, 11:58 AM
Looking at the remaining schedule for your beloved Broncos and my Raiders....this looks like the BEST chance for Denver to tie with the Raiders. The only chance? No, but the best. Denver faces a down in the dumps Vikings team w/out AP and the Raiders face a scrappy but dangerous Dolphins team. If the Raiders win this Sunday, Denver will be hard pressed to catch up. This is weekend games are pivotal for both teams.

Don't see it that way at all. If both teams win, Oakland still has a tough two game stretch with GB and Det. If Denver is a game behind Oakland by a game at that point then I agree; Oakland won't likely blow a game lead with KC and SD to finish their schedule.

Agamemnon
11-28-2011, 12:01 PM
Looking at the remaining schedule for your beloved Broncos and my Raiders....this looks like the BEST chance for Denver to tie with the Raiders. The only chance? No, but the best. Denver faces a down in the dumps Vikings team w/out AP and the Raiders face a scrappy but dangerous Dolphins team. If the Raiders win this Sunday, Denver will be hard pressed to catch up. This is weekend games are pivotal for both teams.

What the **** are you talking about? You guys still have to play Green Bay, Detroit, and San Diego. Our schedule is decidedly easier than yours from here on out.

55CrushEm
11-28-2011, 12:02 PM
Looking at the remaining schedule for your beloved Broncos and my Raiders....this looks like the BEST chance for Denver to tie with the Raiders. The only chance? No, but the best. Denver faces a down in the dumps Vikings team w/out AP and the Raiders face a scrappy but dangerous Dolphins team. If the Raiders win this Sunday, Denver will be hard pressed to catch up. This is weekend games are pivotal for both teams.

I think Oakland has the tougher schedule from here on out....

@ Miami (yes, they've won 3 of 4 and could've beaten Dallas) - edge Oaklad, but could go either way

@ GB - Loss

Detroit - either way

@ KC - December games in KC are brutal.....hmmmmm

Sandy Ego - Can SD play for pride?

Oakland could go 4-1.....or they could go 1-4........hard to say.

Yoda
11-28-2011, 12:08 PM
The GB games is the only game I see that is pretty much a loss. So if Oak loses to Miami, that would be a golden opportunity for Den. Raiders should be getting DMAC, Ford, and Moore back soon which will help tremendously. Den game vs NE will be a VERY tough game for Den to win, Chicago is VERY tough on D and have an excellent run game...Den Achilles heal. I never said this was Denver's only chance, but it is their best chance.

enjolras
11-28-2011, 12:09 PM
I though conference record was number three. Hmm...

That's the fourth tie-breaker:

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

broncocalijohn
11-28-2011, 12:09 PM
Its great that we hold tie breakers over Cincy and NY, because it might come down to head-to-head against one or both of those squads as to whether or not the Broncos get a wild card.

and too bad we lost to the Titans. Win this week and NE looks like the only true "marked as a loss" defeat. Bears look much more beatable now but Henne will have more experience and do much better (like Palmer is doing now). If Bears had Cutler yesterday, most likely they win. We need Raiders to do their choking as usual.

enjolras
11-28-2011, 12:09 PM
The GB games is the only game I see that is pretty much a loss. So if Oak loses to Miami, that would be a golden opportunity for Den. Raiders should be getting DMAC, Ford, and Moore back soon which will help tremendously. Den game vs NE will be a VERY tough game for Den to win, Chicago is VERY tough on D and have an excellent run game...Den Achilles heal. I never said this was Denver's only chance, but it is their best chance.

Detroit is a TERRIBLE matchup for the Raiders.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-28-2011, 12:10 PM
Broncos are God's team Oakland is Satan's team lol all bronco fans will go to heaven Oakland fans well gonna burn in hell .

razorwire77
11-28-2011, 12:12 PM
As objective as I can be, I think Denver will lose one or two more game and finish 10-6 or 9-7. Buffalo has collapsed, Chicago is without Jay, Minnesota is starting a rookie QB and AP is still banged up, KC will be starting Kyle Orton. NE will be tough, but they looked pretty mortal at Camarohead last night.

Oakland has the tougher road. I think Miami will play them tough, GB will destroy them, and Detroit will be battling for a wild card. I could see Oakland dropping at least two out of the three of those games. I think they beat KC and SD to finish 10-6 or 9-7.

Broncbow
11-28-2011, 12:14 PM
I can see Chargers acting like the spoiler, and the Raiders losing everyone of the rest of their games.

Agamemnon
11-28-2011, 12:15 PM
The GB games is the only game I see that is pretty much a loss. So if Oak loses to Miami, that would be a golden opportunity for Den. Raiders should be getting DMAC, Ford, and Moore back soon which will help tremendously. Den game vs NE will be a VERY tough game for Den to win, Chicago is VERY tough on D and have an excellent run game...Den Achilles heal. I never said this was Denver's only chance, but it is their best chance.

Without Cutler, I'm pretty confident we beat the Bears. Especially in Denver. And the run game is not our achilles heel. We're pretty much equally as good against the pass and the run, and usually take one or the other away from our opponents. Seriously dude, you are kidding yourself if you think you are as good as Detroit, and Green Bay is going to eat your face. New England on the other hand belongs to us until proven otherwise. I actually believe we probably win that game. I honestly don't think us going 5-0 to finish the season is that far-fetched. Can you say the same?

Yoda
11-28-2011, 12:16 PM
Either way, should be an exciting finsh

55CrushEm
11-28-2011, 12:18 PM
Without Cutler, I'm pretty confident we beat the Bears. Especially in Denver. And the run game is not our achilles heel. We're pretty much equally as good against the pass and the run, and usually take one or the other away from our opponents. Seriously dude, you are kidding yourself if you think you are as good as Detroit, and Green Bay is going to eat your face. New England on the other hand belongs to us until proven otherwise. I actually believe we probably win that game. I honestly don't think us going 5-0 to finish the season is that far-fetched. Can you say the same?

I just think this is the year Brady gets his second career win vs. Denver. I hope not.....but just a feeling.

And yes, Brady is either 1-6 or 1-7 lifetime (currently) vs. Denver.......beautiful.

Yoda
11-28-2011, 12:18 PM
Without Cutler, I'm pretty confident we beat the Bears. Especially in Denver. And the run game is not our achilles heel. We're pretty much equally as good against the pass and the run, and usually take one or the other away from our opponents. Seriously dude, you are kidding yourself if you think you are as good as Detroit, and Green Bay is going to eat your face. New England on the other hand belongs to us until proven otherwise. I actually believe we probably win that game. I honestly don't think us going 5-0 to finish the season is that far-fetched. Can you say the same?

Homerism?

razorwire77
11-28-2011, 12:19 PM
I can see Chargers acting like the spoiler, and the Raiders losing everyone of the rest of their games.

Could see Chargers acting as a spoiler, but could also see Orton coming up big for KC in Denver. I just have a feeling he's going to have a really solid game. Bronco castaways that become Chefs always seem to go off against us (Quittson comes to mind).

broncocalijohn
11-28-2011, 12:28 PM
Broncos are God's team Oakland is Satan's team lol all bronco fans will go to heaven Oakland fans well gonna burn in hell .

You have to be Bronco Warrior...with Spider and tsiguy rolled into you also.

BroncoBeavis
11-28-2011, 12:31 PM
The GB games is the only game I see that is pretty much a loss. So if Oak loses to Miami, that would be a golden opportunity for Den. Raiders should be getting DMAC, Ford, and Moore back soon which will help tremendously. Den game vs NE will be a VERY tough game for Den to win, Chicago is VERY tough on D and have an excellent run game...Den Achilles heal. I never said this was Denver's only chance, but it is their best chance.

Miami is huge this weekend. If Mia wins, it puts Denver up two games in AFC record, which could well go on to be the tiebreaker, unless OAK loses to either SD or KC (which would give DEN the division tiebreaker)

That would insulate us at least a little from a loss to the Patriots.

OAK should be much happier to lose one of the NFC games than against MIA this weekend.

55CrushEm
11-28-2011, 12:46 PM
Miami is huge this weekend. If Mia wins, it puts Denver up two games in AFC record, which could well go on to be the tiebreaker, unless OAK loses to either SD or KC (which would give DEN the division tiebreaker)

That would insulate us at least a little from a loss to the Patriots.

OAK should be much happier to lose one of the NFC games than against MIA this weekend.

In a way. But both games are common opponents for us. And when breaking a tie IN THE DIVISION.....common opponents come before conference record. So from the aspect of the common opponent tiebreaker....both games are EQUALLY important for Oakland.

But yeah, if we were tied on the common opponent record....THEN the Miami game is more important for the next tiebreaker, which is conference record.

Only for NON-DIVISION tiebreakers does conference record count before the common opponent record does.

Inkana7
11-28-2011, 01:01 PM
In an ironic twist, Cutler may help Denver make the playoffs for once in his career. His loss (assuming Hanie doesn't improve in 2 weeks) makes me feel a lot more confident about the Chicago game. We really do have a good chance to go 4-1, with 3-2 really looking like a worse-case scenario, barring injury.

This is exciting.

Agamemnon
11-28-2011, 01:04 PM
and too bad we lost to the Titans. Win this week and NE looks like the only true "marked as a loss" defeat. Bears look much more beatable now but Henne will have more experience and do much better (like Palmer is doing now). If Bears had Cutler yesterday, most likely they win. We need Raiders to do their choking as usual.

Nah, we can beat everyone left on our schedule, including New England. We don't have to rely on anything other than an 11-5 record getting us the division or a wildcard. Not predicting it will happen, but I don't see any reason to think this team can't do it.

BroncoBeavis
11-28-2011, 01:07 PM
In a way. But both games are common opponents for us. And when breaking a tie IN THE DIVISION.....common opponents come before conference record. So from the aspect of the common opponent tiebreaker....both games are EQUALLY important for Oakland.

But yeah, if we were tied on the common opponent record....THEN the Miami game is more important for the next tiebreaker, which is conference record.

Only for NON-DIVISION tiebreakers does conference record count before the common opponent record does.

Huh, learn something every day :)

I guess the best thing to root for is Phyllis in Week 16 then. Otherwise the best we can hope for is a tie on common opponents (which would assume we beat the Vikes, Bears, they lose to GB and DET)

Of course if that happens over the next couple weeks, we'll be up a game, so maybe it's not worth worrying about :)

BroncoBeavis
11-28-2011, 01:11 PM
Or now that I think about that, maybe not. Raiders already lost to Buffalo and NE, so a win in either one of those would make up for the Raiders beating Detroit.

Mind-numbing to think about.

Agamemnon
11-28-2011, 01:16 PM
Or now that I think about that, maybe not. Raiders already lost to Buffalo and NE, so a win in either one of those would make up for the Raiders beating Detroit.

Mind-numbing to think about.

I really don't think the Raiders beat Detroit.

BroncoBeavis
11-28-2011, 01:24 PM
I really don't think the Raiders beat Detroit.

Only worried about Detroit imploding. For the first time all season they're on the outside looking in. It'll be interesting to see how they react, plus with the Suh thing...

Inkana7
11-28-2011, 04:20 PM
So, I ran some scenarios through the NFL Playoff Machine on ESPN.com...

We go 4-1, with a loss to the Patriots, Oakland goes 3-2 with losses to Green Bay and Detroit, we're in as the 4th Seed, Oakland is the 5th Seed.

We go 3-2 with a loss to the Pats and Bears, Oakland goes 3-2 with the above losses, and we're out. Oakland is the 4th, NYJ is the 6th.

If we go 4-1 with a loss to the Pats and Oakland also goes 4-1 with a loss to Green Bay, then (based on my picks, I have no idea how Houston will really do), Oakland is the 3rd Seed, Houston is the 4th seed and we're the 6th seed.

So basically, pray we can go 3-2 and hope Oakland drops that SD game.

Oh, and also pray that Cincy gets swept in their upcoming games with Baltimore and Pittsburgh.

Hamrob
11-28-2011, 04:37 PM
It's nice to dream!

But, when you are winning games by 3 pts each week...you're fortunate just to win one game at a time.

I think Minnesota is going to be tough enough.

Gort
11-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Playoffs? You kidding me? Playoffs?

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/2009/images/09/08/jim-mora.jpg

...let's take it one game at a time guys and not jinx it...

Requiem
11-28-2011, 05:27 PM
Win out and handle our own destiny.

LaneLosh2
11-28-2011, 07:19 PM
Wouldnt say they have no chance but their chances are pretty slim. Their remaining schedule is tough and the Tebow magic might start to fade

Bronx33
11-28-2011, 08:09 PM
Playoffs? You kidding me? Playoffs?

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/2009/images/09/08/jim-mora.jpg

...let's take it one game at a time guys and not jinx it...


this

Rolandftw
11-28-2011, 08:12 PM
Nah, we can beat everyone left on our schedule, including New England. We don't have to rely on anything other than an 11-5 record getting us the division or a wildcard. Not predicting it will happen, but I don't see any reason to think this team can't do it.

You're jinxing it. 1-4 at best, and that's pushing it.

Hamrob
11-28-2011, 10:31 PM
Remember if we are tied with Oakland it will come down to division record, which we are assured at least a tie...and the Conference record. So, if we lose, let's try not to lost to AFC teams (NE, BUFF, K.C.).

broncocalijohn
11-28-2011, 10:35 PM
Remember if we are tied with Oakland it will come down to division record, which we are assured at least a tie...and the Conference record. So, if we lose, let's try not to lost to AFC teams (NE, BUFF, K.C.).

wasnt it explained earlier that before conference record, you have same opponent record (Miami, NE, Chicago, etc)?