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epicSocialism4tw
11-27-2011, 03:32 AM
SAN DIEGO Tebowhemians, John Fox is more committed to his quarterback than you are.

"I switched quarterbacks (in the second half of the first Chargers game). I started Tim (against the Dolphins). I stuck with him (after the Lions game). I changed the offense (to the run-oriented option before the Raiders game).

"Would I do all that if I didn't like him?" John Fox asked, then answered: "I want him to succeed . . . I'm Tim Tebow​'s biggest fan."

On July 6, during the lockout, in a previous visit to Fox's office, I asked what he wanted in a quarterback. "I prefer a gamer to a good practice player. . . . I want someone who will execute under pressure in a game."

Fox has found his gamer and likes him.



Read more: Paige: Broncos coach John Fox a big fan of Tim Tebow horsepower - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/paige/ci_19419212#ixzz1etrxN31q
Read The Denver Post's Terms of Use of its content: http://www.denverpost.com/termsofuse

More from the article:

"I'll say this about Tim: On the play we scored on (to beat the Jets), he told me he wanted the ball. In that way, he reminds me of Jake Delhomme​" Fox's starting quarterback with the Panthers from 2003-09. Fox liked Delhomme.

The general belief is that Tebow continues to be a deficient passer. "That's how people on the outside may judge him, but, to me, he's improving every week," Fox said.

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Be sure to click the link and check out the article. Woody has a bunch of good nuggets of info in there...including the reaveal of the answer to the question of who supports Tebow in the front office.

Good stuff from Paige. Give it a look.

Doggcow
11-27-2011, 03:41 AM
Oh what the ****. He's nothing like Delhomme...

The Joker
11-27-2011, 03:45 AM
But he has to let him throw teh football!!

epicSocialism4tw
11-27-2011, 04:00 AM
Oh what the ****. He's nothing like Delhomme...

He was talking about Tebow's competitiveness, not his playing style.

epicSocialism4tw
11-27-2011, 04:04 AM
But he has to let him throw teh football!!

Paige reveals in the article that Xanders is a Tebow backer as well, leaving only one piece of EFX unsold. We all know who that is, no reason to rehash that here. But that bodes well for the possibility that Denver will roll with Tebow again next season barring some unforseen circumstance.

Armchair Bronco
11-27-2011, 06:18 AM
This article by Woody was well written and easy to digest. If there's hope for Woody's readability, there's hope for Tebow's accuracy!

Armchair Bronco
11-27-2011, 06:21 AM
Paige reveals in the article that Xanders is a Tebow backer as well, leaving only one piece of EFX unsold. We all know who that is, no reason to rehash that here. But that bodes well for the possibility that Denver will roll with Tebow again next season barring some unforseen circumstance.

How much real power does Xander's have in the new regime? When Shannyham was around, our GM's were just number crunchers who rubber stamped Little Napoleon's orders.

vonqkilla
11-27-2011, 06:40 AM
Blaa blaaa blaaaa.

So tired of Tebow drama.
Let me break this down.

We are 5-5 and likely need to go 4-2 to make the playoffs.

Right now our def is carrying this team. A competent qb would have blown out the jets.

Until he shows progress objective reasonable football people will look at him and question his ability.

The answer : keep winning and keep getting better.

If he does that, he should be given an offseason and a shot at being the qbotf.

Bottomline - Tebow is the Qb of the NOW. So win.

Spider
11-27-2011, 06:48 AM
Blaa blaaa blaaaa.

So tired of Tebow drama.
Let me break this down.

We are 5-5 and likely need to go 4-2 to make the playoffs.

Right now our def is carrying this team. A competent qb would have blown out the jets.

Until he shows progress objective reasonable football people will look at him and question his ability.

The answer : keep winning and keep getting better.

If he does that, he should be given an offseason and a shot at being the qbotf.

Bottomline - Tebow is the Qb of the NOW. So win.

you are so going to hell for this post ...........never seen such a blatant unabashed form of blasphemous garbage in all my days as a Tebonner ......
repent you bastard .........

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-27-2011, 07:02 AM
Blaa blaaa blaaaa.

So tired of Tebow drama.
Let me break this down.

We are 5-5 and likely need to go 4-2 to make the playoffs.

Right now our def is carrying this team. A competent qb would have blown out the jets.

Until he shows progress objective reasonable football people will look at him and question his ability.

The answer : keep winning and keep getting better.

If he does that, he should be given an offseason and a shot at being the qbotf.

Bottomline - Tebow is the Qb of the NOW. So win.

Ah, a terrifying injection of reality into the proceedings.

elsid13
11-27-2011, 07:10 AM
you are so going to hell for this post ...........never seen such a blatant unabashed form of blasphemous garbage in all my days as a Tebonner ......
repent you bastard .........

Be careful or the Teboner Inquisition will get your ass too.


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Spider
11-27-2011, 07:19 AM
Be careful or the Teboner Inquisition will get your ass too.


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am a convert ........ Just this morning i said hey you , what in the Name of Tebow is your punk ass doing ? Timmy H tebow you silly bastard you almost took my mirror off ...........

RaiderH8r
11-27-2011, 08:50 AM
Blaa blaaa blaaaa.

So tired of Tebow drama.
Let me break this down.

We are 5-5 and likely need to go 4-2 to make the playoffs.

Right now our def is carrying this team. A competent qb would have blown out the jets.

Until he shows progress objective reasonable football people will look at him and question his ability.

The answer : keep winning and keep getting better.

If he does that, he should be given an offseason and a shot at being the qbotf.

Bottomline - Tebow is the Qb of the NOW. So win.

Orton was your "competent QB" and we got our asses handed to us. There is more to this game than what Trent Dilfer would have you believe. Dawkins, Champ, Miller, all on record that they like, really like Tebow under center. Dawkins is the first one to congratulate Tim on the sideline and champ isn't far behind. If Tebow inspires better play in them then it is reasonable to conclude the sae can be true for the rest of them. Leaders make us want to be better, work harder etc. KO was never a leader and certainly not inspirational.

uplink
11-27-2011, 09:02 AM
Looks like things are becoming clearer on the EFX Tebow Split Woody has been eluding to all season:

X - for
E - against (may be likely "cook" source saying Tebow is 4th best QB on team)
F - undecided, breaks the tie (but may have changed his mind)

KO5K
11-27-2011, 09:07 AM
Looks like things are becoming clearer on the EFX Tebow Split Woody has been eluding to all season:

X - for
E - against (may be likely "cook" source saying Tebow is 4th best QB on team)
F - undecided, breaks the tie (but may have changed his mind)

I think Fox is more undecided/for nowadays, Tebow is allowing him to run the kind of football style he loves and they're winning games. I agree with the other two.

But I'd like to think that Elway wouldn't stoop so low to be the source, I think it's more likely it was someone like B Lloyd.

Broncbow
11-27-2011, 09:18 AM
Paige reveals in the article that Xanders is a Tebow backer as well, leaving only one piece of EFX unsold. We all know who that is, no reason to rehash that here. But that bodes well for the possibility that Denver will roll with Tebow again next season barring some unforseen circumstance.

Excellent point.

The only piece that matters is the same piece that is in complete control.

Fox is a joke.

One minute this the next minute that.

I mean Orton gives this team the best chance to win to...
Tebow is crap a player who would be screwed if, to I am his biggest fan. What a kook.

Guy is a push over marshmellow that is caught in the middle of Elways Tebow guillotine. He clearly possess no back bone whatsover. What a bitch.

Fox has spent the past 10 games jamming Tebows head into Elways guillotine, his damage control campaign designed to remove him as far as possible from the demonizing comments regarding Tebow means nothing.

I mean what are you going to believe, the Fox that talks crap out of the one side of his mouth, or the Sly Fox who claims to be Tebows biggest fan?

http://www.geektown.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/twoface.jpg

Rohirrim
11-27-2011, 09:20 AM
X - Probably one of people, along with Josh, who talked Bowlen into making that boneheaded trade of three players to move back into the first round for Tebow. From that moment on, he's on board with Tebow, sink or swim.

E - Had a steaming pile of Josh ruin dropped in his lap. Only cares about getting this franchise back to its glory days, when it won every home game and made the playoffs every year. Doesn't really care if Tebow, or somebody else, is the QB, as long as they get the job done.

F - Coach. Uses coach speak. Has a job to keep. Winning makes that goal possible. Will say what he needs to keep the players working hard as a team. Will coach whoever the FO gives him and will do his best to win games with the players he has, like every other coach in the NFL.

Teboners - Will biatch and whine like spoiled little girls no matter what happens. (Which is why, if you think about it, this article even exists. Fox is responding to the waves of whining that continue to engulf Dove Valley. He's just not showing enough devotion to their love idol and has to continuously defend himself).

jhns
11-27-2011, 09:35 AM
X - Probably one of people, along with Josh, who talked Bowlen into making that boneheaded trade of three players to move back into the first round for Tebow. From that moment on, he's on board with Tebow, sink or swim.

E - Had a steaming pile of Josh ruin dropped in his lap. Only cares about getting this franchise back to its glory days, when it won every home game and made the playoffs every year. Doesn't really care if Tebow, or somebody else, is the QB, as long as they get the job done.

F - Coach. Uses coach speak. Has a job to keep. Winning makes that goal possible. Will say what he needs to keep the players working hard as a team. Will coach whoever the FO gives him and will do his best to win games with the players he has, like every other coach in the NFL.

Teboners - Will biatch and whine like spoiled little girls no matter what happens. (Which is why, if you think about it, this article even exists. Fox is responding to the waves of whining that continue to engulf Dove Valley. He's just not showing enough devotion to their love idol and has to continuously defend himself).

Haters - Can't enjoy wins because of the QB that is starting. They cry about everything. They worry more about what reporters say than having a good team.

broncolife
11-27-2011, 09:40 AM
Looks like things are becoming clearer on the EFX Tebow Split Woody has been eluding to all season:

X - for
E - against (may be likely "cook" source saying Tebow is 4th best QB on team)
F - undecided, breaks the tie (but may have changed his mind)

Thank you. I never knew what that efx stood for. I thought it meant front office.

Rohirrim
11-27-2011, 09:41 AM
Haters - Can't enjoy wins because of the QB that is starting. They cry about everything. They worry more about what reporters say than having a good team.

I knew that post would draw out some Tebowhiners. ;D

Dr. Broncenstein
11-27-2011, 09:42 AM
Thank you. I never knew what that efx stood for. I thought it meant front office.

What office do you think the GM and VP occupy?

jhns
11-27-2011, 09:44 AM
I knew that post would draw out some Tebowhiners. ;D

Trolls will troll.

Spider
11-27-2011, 09:45 AM
What office do you think the GM and VP occupy?

office of Tebow of course

Rohirrim
11-27-2011, 09:46 AM
Trolls will troll.

We all know you'll be rooting for the Chargers today. The cat's out of the bag on that one, Chargers fan. ;D

Dr. Broncenstein
11-27-2011, 09:46 AM
office of Tebow of course

The one with the pointy roof, painted ceiling, and stained glass windows?

jhns
11-27-2011, 09:47 AM
We all know you'll be rooting for the Chargers today. The cat's out of the bag on that one, Chargers fan. ;D

Rooting for Tebow to keep our defense playing well.

Spider
11-27-2011, 09:48 AM
The one with the pointy roof, painted ceiling, and stained glass windows?

how did you know ? ...

Dr. Broncenstein
11-27-2011, 09:49 AM
Rooting for Tebow to keep our defense playing well.

Lolz.

broncolife
11-27-2011, 09:52 AM
What office do you think the GM and VP occupy?

I didnt know E=Elway, F=Fox, X= Xanders. I thought you guys were using some football lingo I missed. ;D

Inkana7
11-27-2011, 10:02 AM
More negative media, eh, llama?

Garcia Bronco
11-27-2011, 10:05 AM
Oh what the ****. He's nothing like Delhomme...

That's not what he meant.

Armchair Bronco
11-27-2011, 10:10 AM
I didnt know E=Elway, F=Fox, X= Xanders. I thought you guys were using some football lingo I missed. ;D

But Woody got the order wrong. He used "FEX", which is just plain wrong. Sounds and looks like "Fed Ex".

EFX FTW.

errand
11-27-2011, 10:16 AM
Have you ever noticed that when someone says something negative on a network or in an article about to tebow the automatically labeled an idiot by the Tebowners.

However as soon as 1 of them writes a positive article the next thing you know it's etched in stone the greatness of tim tebow.

How can all these writers and pundits be idiots and geniuses at the same time

Armchair Bronco
11-27-2011, 10:17 AM
Have you ever noticed that when someone says something negative on a network or in an article about to tebow the automatically labeled an idiot by the Tebowners.

No, I haven't noticed that.

barryr
11-27-2011, 10:24 AM
Have you ever noticed that when someone says something negative on a network or in an article about to tebow the automatically labeled an idiot by the Tebowners.

However as soon as 1 of them writes a positive article the next thing you know it's etched in stone the greatness of tim tebow.

How can all these writers and pundits be idiots and geniuses at the same time

Criticism is one thing, saying absolutes like "the guy will never develop into anything" is quite another. I see more people saying about people of writing things such as "Tebow will never make it" after never having a training camp at least as the starter, a team that was what 4-21 while he hasn't started, as stupid and idiots, especially when they turn around and state some QB will who has yet to prove a thing either. If others can develop, then nothing is absolute that Tebow can't either.

KO5K
11-27-2011, 10:28 AM
Have you ever noticed...

No.

But I have noticed a large number of whiny bitches on this forum.

errand
11-27-2011, 10:47 AM
Criticism is one thing, saying absolutes like "the guy will never develop into anything" is quite another. I see more people saying about people of writing things such as "Tebow will never make it" after never having a training camp at least as the starter, a team that was what 4-21 while he hasn't started, as stupid and idiots, especially when they turn around and state some QB will who has yet to prove a thing either. If others can develop, then nothing is absolute that Tebow can't either.

Really now? Elway seems to be catching of a lot of flak for just saying that he wasn't committed to the guy for next year.... he said good things about tim and he said a few criticisms of tim... and yet you look at what people are saying about elway.... and you try to come in here with that "it's okay to criticize tebow"...

Yeah.....right!

epicSocialism4tw
11-27-2011, 11:02 AM
Fox - supporter
Xanders - supporter
Elway - non-Supporter

Fox is really the only one that matters.

Spider
11-27-2011, 11:03 AM
Have you ever noticed that when someone says something negative on a network or in an article about to tebow the automatically labeled an idiot by the Tebowners.

However as soon as 1 of them writes a positive article the next thing you know it's etched in stone the greatness of tim tebow.

How can all these writers and pundits be idiots and geniuses at the same time

LMAO yep ....funny how that works ;)

epicSocialism4tw
11-27-2011, 11:04 AM
If Fox wants to roll with Teebs, does anyone think that Elway will be able to override his choice?

Spider
11-27-2011, 11:06 AM
Really now? Elway seems to be catching of a lot of flak for just saying that he wasn't committed to the guy for next year.... he said good things about tim and he said a few criticisms of tim... and yet you look at what people are saying about elway.... and you try to come in here with that "it's okay to criticize tebow"...

Yeah.....right!

well if Elway only knew half of what it takes to be a QB as a Tebonner does , Elways comments would have some merit ...........

elsid13
11-27-2011, 11:09 AM
Fox - supporter
Xanders - supporter
Elway - non-Supporter

Fox is really the only one that matters.

Actually, Elway is the only one that matter because he control the future of the roster.

epicSocialism4tw
11-27-2011, 11:14 AM
Actually, Elway is the only one that matter because he control the future of the roster.

Elway matters more than the coach?

That doesnt make much sense.

FRISKY_DINGO
11-27-2011, 11:43 AM
SAN DIEGO Tebowhemians, John Fox is more committed to his quarterback than you are.

"I switched quarterbacks (in the second half of the first Chargers game). I started Tim (against the Dolphins). I stuck with him (after the Lions game). I changed the offense (to the run-oriented option before the Raiders game).

"Would I do all that if I didn't like him?" John Fox asked, then answered: "I want him to succeed . . . I'm Tim Tebow​'s biggest fan."

On July 6, during the lockout, in a previous visit to Fox's office, I asked what he wanted in a quarterback. "I prefer a gamer to a good practice player. . . . I want someone who will execute under pressure in a game."

Fox has found his gamer and likes him.



Read more: Paige: Broncos coach John Fox a big fan of Tim Tebow horsepower - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/paige/ci_19419212#ixzz1etrxN31q
Read The Denver Post's Terms of Use of its content: http://www.denverpost.com/termsofuse

More from the article:

"I'll say this about Tim: On the play we scored on (to beat the Jets), he told me he wanted the ball. In that way, he reminds me of Jake Delhomme​" Fox's starting quarterback with the Panthers from 2003-09. Fox liked Delhomme.

The general belief is that Tebow continues to be a deficient passer. "That's how people on the outside may judge him, but, to me, he's improving every week," Fox said.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

Be sure to click the link and check out the article. Woody has a bunch of good nuggets of info in there...including the reaveal of the answer to the question of who supports Tebow in the front office.

Good stuff from Paige. Give it a look.


Good post, but Woody also said that we should draft Dan LeFevour in the 1st round a few years back........:spit:

FRISKY_DINGO
11-27-2011, 11:43 AM
If Fox wants to roll with Teebs, does anyone think that Elway will be able to override his choice?

Yeah, that's his job.

RaiderH8r
11-27-2011, 11:44 AM
well if Elway only knew half of what it takes to be a QB as a Tebonner does , Elways comments would have some merit ...........

Elway could go Matt Millen or Ozzy Newsome or somewhere in between.right now he's closer to Millen on the spectrum.

Armchair Bronco
11-27-2011, 11:50 AM
Elway could go Matt Millen or Ozzy Newsome or somewhere in between.right now he's closer to Millen on the spectrum.

I agree. It's still early in the game, but the signals from Elway remind me of Millen.

epicSocialism4tw
11-27-2011, 11:53 AM
Yeah, that's his job.

Elway's "job" is to tick off the head coach?

DrFate
11-27-2011, 01:29 PM
Elway seems to be catching of a lot of flak for just saying that he wasn't committed to the guy for next year

I'm pretty sure this is inaccurate. The bulk of flak Elway gets is for not being a little more PC in his responses.

I'll repeat this, because I believe it to be true - Orton got more Elway-support (in the media) than Tebow has. (1-4 vs 4-1)

I'm not sure anyone expects/wants Elway to say 'Tebow is the QB of this team for the next 10 years' (well, maybe macgruder) :)

Personally, I'd like an Elway interview where the pres admits he put a virtual rookie QB on the field with a lifeless team in the Luck sweepstakes - and that QB has gone 4-1 since the change and is now fighting for the division lead. That's not a commitment - that's merely the truth.

DrFate
11-27-2011, 01:30 PM
Elway's "job" is to tick off the head coach?

I'd guess if you looked at an internal ORG charg, Fox reports to Elway. If Elway buys a different set of groceries, I'd imagine Fox will be tasked with making dinner (to borrow Parcell's old metaphor)

:wiggle:

epicSocialism4tw
11-27-2011, 01:54 PM
I'd guess if you looked at an internal ORG charg, Fox reports to Elway. If Elway buys a different set of groceries, I'd imagine Fox will be tasked with making dinner (to borrow Parcell's old metaphor)

:wiggle:

Sure.

But at the same time, if Fox sends Elway out for the rib-eyes and Elway comes back with ostrich eggs...

I believe that Fox has as much imput in the draft as Elway does, though.

Garcia Bronco
11-27-2011, 02:00 PM
Elway could go Matt Millen or Ozzy Newsome or somewhere in between.right now he's closer to Millen on the spectrum.

?

No way.

DrFate
11-27-2011, 02:07 PM
I believe that Fox has as much imput in the draft as Elway does, though.

I think if there is a throw-down in the war room, Elway would win. It is nice to think that everyone is on the same page - but if Fox says 'Tebow' and Elway says 'no go' - I think Elway wins. Somebody has to be in charge/break ties, right?

barryr
11-27-2011, 03:43 PM
Really now? Elway seems to be catching of a lot of flak for just saying that he wasn't committed to the guy for next year.... he said good things about tim and he said a few criticisms of tim... and yet you look at what people are saying about elway.... and you try to come in here with that "it's okay to criticize tebow"...

Yeah.....right!

Criticizing performance and saying a guy can't ever play are not the same thing.