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Kaylore
11-25-2011, 02:22 PM
Krieger: Elway on fringe of Tebow tirade

Twitter has become known for many things during its short life, but civility is not one of them. So when John Elway​ chose the massively popular microblogging service as his method of direct communication with Broncos fans, he was taking a calculated risk.

The Broncos' transparency offensive was working pretty well too, until Elway got crosswise with Tebowmania. Then it got ugly pretty fast.

"You know, I've actually stopped reading it, which is a good thing," Elway said with a laugh during his weekly hit on KOA radio Wednesday.

Here's a sampling of Twitter messages sent his way after he said earlier this week he didn't know if Tim Tebow​ was the Broncos' quarterback of the future:

"@johnelway i hope pat fires http://www.denverpost.com/krieger/ci_19409161

It's a good read. It basically says the open communication thing is a double-edged sword. It also highlights how stupid the <s>Bronco</s> Florida fans are being. The comments under the article pretty much say it all.


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Postby theking1935 on Today, 6:11 am
Elway is a horse faced as s and clearly has no clue how to run the football operations. Even if he thinks this way about Tebow, DONT SAY IT PUBLICALLY ON SOME STUPID RADIO SHOW. He is dumb as a stump. PLEASE TRADE TEBOW JOHN TO MIAMI OR JACKSONVILLE SO OUR TEAMS CAN CRUSH DENVER FOR YEARS.
Postby SonicAgamemnon on Today, 5:49 am

Elway and Fox: Do us all a favor and shut your pie holes. After the season ends, go ahead and start running your mouths again, satisfying your obsessions for a pure pocket passing pansy. Go ahead and cut all the quarterbacks on the roster and draft your next object of ridicule. You better select a big winner. Otherwise, prepare to be run out of Denver for good.::) Agamemon, Alpha Sierra and Macgruder all joined shortly after Tebow was drafted. I suspect one or both wrote the above. They're a bunch of idiots who worship everything Tebow does and blame everything he doesn't on everyone but him. I want Tebow to succeed, he's an easy player to root for, but when I read comments like these, I almost hope we trade him so we don't have to put up with these idiots.

jhns
11-25-2011, 02:24 PM
Krieger: Elway on fringe of Tebow tirade
http://www.denverpost.com/krieger/ci_19409161

It's a good read. It basically says the open communication thing is a double-edged sword. It also highlights how stupid the <s>Bronco</s> Florida fans are being. The comments under the article pretty much say it all.


::) Agamemon, Alpha Sierra and Macgruder all joined shortly after Tebow was drafted. I suspect one or both wrote the above. They're a bunch of idiots who worship everything Tebow does and blame everything he doesn't on everyone but him. I want Tebow to succeed, he's an easy player to root for, but when I read comments like these, I almost hope we trade him so we don't have to put up with these idiots.

Why do you guys get so worked up over what others say? You are such a weak individual.

Mile High Mojoe
11-25-2011, 02:25 PM
What the hell happened to you Man? I never pictured you a Hater and a Divisive Fan but you've turned to the dark side.

MagicHef
11-25-2011, 02:25 PM
I read "tirade" as "trade" and was wondering how Elway could not know the trade deadline had passed.

Spider
11-25-2011, 02:26 PM
Krieger: Elway on fringe of Tebow tirade
http://www.denverpost.com/krieger/ci_19409161

It's a good read. It basically says the open communication thing is a double-edged sword. It also highlights how stupid the <s>Bronco</s> Florida fans are being. The comments under the article pretty much say it all.


::) Agamemon, Alpha Sierra and Macgruder all joined shortly after Tebow was drafted. I suspect one or both wrote the above. They're a bunch of idiots who worship everything Tebow does and blame everything he doesn't on everyone but him. I want Tebow to succeed, he's an easy player to root for, but when I read comments like these, I almost hope we trade him so we don't have to put up with these idiots.

it just isnt them anymore , LMAO I just stated woulod have been classic if Tebow had been drafted by the Raiders , now some ass clown named Jetmeck wants me to eat crow ...... LMAO

TDmvp
11-25-2011, 02:29 PM
http://mlblogsjaneheller.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/who_cares1.jpg?w=260&h=240

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 02:29 PM
Krieger: Elway on fringe of Tebow tirade
http://www.denverpost.com/krieger/ci_19409161

It's a good read. It basically says the open communication thing is a double-edged sword. It also highlights how stupid the <s>Bronco</s> Florida fans are being. The comments under the article pretty much say it all.


::) Agamemon, Alpha Sierra and Macgruder all joined shortly after Tebow was drafted. I suspect one or both wrote the above. They're a bunch of idiots who worship everything Tebow does and blame everything he doesn't on everyone but him. I want Tebow to succeed, he's an easy player to root for, but when I read comments like these, I almost hope we trade him so we don't have to put up with these idiots.


http://www.lolpix.com/_pics/Funny_Pictures_499/Funny_Pictures_4995.jpg

DBroncos4life
11-25-2011, 02:33 PM
http://mlblogsjaneheller.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/who_cares1.jpg?w=260&h=240

If this was a thread about people posting crap on Tebows twitter account I bet you would. :thumbs:

Kaylore
11-25-2011, 02:38 PM
If this was a thread about people posting crap on Tebows twitter account I bet you would. :thumbs:

:~ohyah!: There would be a firestorm. It's like he's started his own religion. It's amazing the laughably horrible things that are being said, things I would assume even many Tebow supporters would find over the top, and look at this, half the posts are basically endorsing the behavior (Jhiz is on ignore. I can only assume he said something about me supporting McDaniels.)

Archer81
11-25-2011, 02:42 PM
This is long past the point of being old. Tebow as of this season is our starter. As starter, he is 4-1. We are in the division race. Everything else is just a distraction. As for the comments towards Elway. He will always be one of the faces of the team. He led us to 5 superbowls, won two of them. I will never criticize Elway the player. Elway the GM is open for criticism, even though calling him an ass or horse faced (really? Thats original...) is beyond juvenille and immensely disrespectful.

:Broncos:

TDmvp
11-25-2011, 02:43 PM
If this was a thread about people posting crap on Tebows twitter account I bet you would. :thumbs:

Considering I don't follow twitter and don't follow what people say about Tebow cause I have a life and could care less what fans say ... So no , no I wouldn't...

Try again moron.


You Broncos fans who think this is about picking a side and being right and wrong kill me.You guys are some dense sobs ...

campocorto
11-25-2011, 02:45 PM
I want Tebow to succeed, he's an easy player to root for, but when I read comments like these, I almost hope we trade him so we don't have to put up with these idiots.

You let idiots get under your skin too easy.

DBroncos4life
11-25-2011, 02:46 PM
:~ohyah!: There would be a firestorm. It's like he's started his own religion. It's amazing the laughably horrible things that are being said, things I would assume even many Tebow supporters would find over the top, and look at this, half the posts are basically endorsing the behavior (Jhiz is on ignore. I can only assume he said something about me supporting McDaniels.)

I agree 100%. I'm almost to the point where if I see a new poster joined I just place them on ignore just to save me a headache. I want Denver to win and to do that Tebow needs to win, just like I wanted Plummer, Griese, Cutler, and Orton to win. I find it funny that they called me a hater cause I cheered for Orton to win. Hell I didn't even want him here!!!!

Most of these Tebow fans don't care about Denver. They don't care about the teams history. They just care about how well Tebow looks. I don't blame DENVER BRONCOS fans for growing tired of this **** storm.

DBroncos4life
11-25-2011, 02:51 PM
Considering I don't follow twitter and don't follow what people say about Tebow cause I have a life and could care less what fans say ... So no , no I wouldn't...

Try again moron.


You Broncos fans who think this is about picking a side and being right and wrong kill me.You guys are some dense sobs ...

Oh so you are one of those posters that go into threads and say who cares. Hilarious! Those guys kill me. "Oh look a new thread I wonder what this is about?" "Blah I don't like the topic so I will go upload my who cares gif to show them how much I don't care about the topic!"

Kaylore
11-25-2011, 02:53 PM
I agree. And I don't believe Elway or the front office is above reproach. Like I've said, the negative feedback Elway is getting is his own doing and the front office's for having this "full transparency" policy. You do that and people are going to come at you when you they don't like what you say.

That's not my point. I don't think the Tebow fanatics shouldn't have a right to say their idiotic feelings. I don't even take issue with them ripping on Elway. I am, however, going to judge them based on their comments. Clearly they don't give a crap about Denver. The request he be traded to "Miami or Jacksonville" shows they don't care about the Broncos beyond Tebow playing well so people will praise him and they have more material for their hero wetdreams.

I support Tebow and I look forward to him improving. But he needs to improve. He'd be the first to tell anyone that.

DrFate
11-25-2011, 02:57 PM
I'm not sure what this piece does except stir the pot?

OBF1
11-25-2011, 03:05 PM
They're a bunch of idiots who worship everything Tebow does and blame everything he doesn't on everyone but him. I want Tebow to succeed, he's an easy player to root for, but when I read comments like these, I almost hope we trade him so we don't have to put up with these idiots.

So what do you do in the interim.... You have started to post anti Florida, anti Tebow and Anti Bronco fan posts.

Then you talk about idiots... Really? You have been posting here for 7+ years and 35,000+ posts and NOW you are worried about idiots? Come on Chris, this place has been loaded with idiots and trolls since day 1, and Now you are going to blame your poor behavior on that ??? I call bull shiat.

jhns
11-25-2011, 03:08 PM
I agree. And I don't believe Elway or the front office is above reproach. Like I've said, the negative feedback Elway is getting is his own doing and the front office's for having this "full transparency" policy. You do that and people are going to come at you when you they don't like what you say.

That's not my point. I don't think the Tebow fanatics shouldn't have a right to say their idiotic feelings. I don't even take issue with them ripping on Elway. I am, however, going to judge them based on their comments. Clearly they don't give a crap about Denver. The request he be traded to "Miami or Jacksonville" shows they don't care about the Broncos beyond Tebow playing well so people will praise him and they have more material for their hero wetdreams.

I support Tebow and I look forward to him improving. But he needs to improve. He'd be the first to tell anyone that.

I see a few doing something and claim that everyone does it! I is smart!

Inkana7
11-25-2011, 03:09 PM
So what do you do in the interim.... You have started to post anti Florida, anti Tebow and Anti Bronco fan posts.

Then you talk about idiots... Really? You have been posting here for 7+ years and 35,000+ posts and NOW you are worried about idiots? Come on Chris, this place has been loaded with idiots and trolls since day 1, and Now you are going to blame your poor behavior on that ??? I call bull shiat.

I started coming here in 2005 and its like night and day from back then. There are so many more horrible posters now. And (shocker!) a lot of them joined right after Tebow was drafted!

DrFate
11-25-2011, 03:10 PM
I started coming here in 2005 and its like night and day from back then. There are so many more horrible posters now. And (shocker!) a lot of them joined right after Tebow was drafted!

You must have missed the arguments over players like Griese, Plummer, and Lelie...

jhns
11-25-2011, 03:10 PM
I started coming here in 2005 and its like night and day from back then. There are so many more horrible posters now. And (shocker!) a lot of them joined right after Tebow was drafted!

Well then the few months before I joined was when the change took place. This place is exactly the same as it has always been.

Turd_Ferguson
11-25-2011, 03:12 PM
I wanted Orton benched because after 2 years, it was painful to watch his complete lack of athletic ability. I thought it was a slap in the face to the fans to trot him out there again this year.

I now feel the same way about Tebow. Am I jumping the gun on judging him? Possible but doubtful. Is Tebow winning? NO. Is the TEAM winning. Yes. Imagine what they would be doing with a talented QB.

As far as Elway goes, he is the boss. If he doesn't feel like kissing Tebows a$$ he doesn't have to... He has whats called **** you money, and he doesn't care what Tebow Nation thinks. He was a better player than Tebow ever will be, and as of right now has more NFL experience, front office or otherwise, than anyone on this site.

Play2win
11-25-2011, 03:12 PM
I wonder if Tim Tebow is the Anti-Christ.

Chris
11-25-2011, 03:15 PM
I really don't think there's anything wrong with wishing Elway was handling the situation better. He began his tenure by saying his strength is he "knows what he doesn't know" but he clearly thinks he is an expert evaluator (being a HOF QB from an NFL that no longer exists does not mean you are automatically a great evaluator). This of course goes back to my opinion that he has made up his mind to not back Tebow. As for the idiots, I just ignore them.

At the end of the day none of this matters because if Tim keeps winning Elway will be incapable of dusting him.

Kaylore
11-25-2011, 03:17 PM
I started coming here in 2005 and its like night and day from back then. There are so many more horrible posters now. And (shocker!) a lot of them joined right after Tebow was drafted!

This. And this is WAY worse than Lelie/Plummer/Cutler (I wasn't here for Griese, though I've heard that was particularly terrible.)

None of those players had the following Tebow has and with an allegiance as fierce as his. And honestly probably none after will, at least not for the Broncos. Tebow is one of, if not the, greatest College players ever. You don't see those kinds come through a Franchise more than once in a blue moon.

DBroncos4life
11-25-2011, 03:19 PM
I really don't think there's anything wrong with wishing Elway was handling the situation better. He began his tenure by saying his strength is he "knows what he doesn't know" but he clearly thinks he is an expert evaluator (being a HOF QB from an NFL that no longer exists does not mean you are automatically a great evaluator). This of course goes back to my opinion that he has made up his mind to not back Tebow. As for the idiots, I just ignore them.

At the end of the day none of this matters because if Tim keeps winning Elway will be incapable of dusting him.

I don't think there is anything wrong with wishing Tebow can improve on his mechanics but if you bring it up you get hammered by his fans. I agree Elway's PR skills need work but hating on his twitter page because you don't like what he has to say shows the class of Tebow's fans.

DrFate
11-25-2011, 03:20 PM
This. And this is WAY worse than Lelie/Plummer/Cutler (I wasn't here for Griese, though I've heard that was particularly terrible.)


You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I simply don't see it. You can count the 'Tebow fanclub' on one hand (Macgruder, AlphaSierra, a couple more). This whole 'the fanbase has gone to hell because of Tebow' is a meme that is WAY WAY overblown.

Archer81
11-25-2011, 03:23 PM
Its actually been happening for years. Two sides form over an issue, issue festers, fan base as represented by the Mane breaks into small groups. Winning makes alot of this nonsense go away.

Happened with Plummer. Happened with the drafting of Cutler. Happened with Shanahan's firing, happened with McDaniels hiring/firing, happened with the trading of Cutler, Marshall, Hillis & Scheffler...happened with Orton V Tebow. It is what it is.

:Broncos:

MagicHef
11-25-2011, 03:25 PM
I agree. And I don't believe Elway or the front office is above reproach. Like I've said, the negative feedback Elway is getting is his own doing and the front office's for having this "full transparency" policy. You do that and people are going to come at you when you they don't like what you say.

That's not my point. I don't think the Tebow fanatics shouldn't have a right to say their idiotic feelings. I don't even take issue with them ripping on Elway. I am, however, going to judge them based on their comments. Clearly they don't give a crap about Denver. The request he be traded to "Miami or Jacksonville" shows they don't care about the Broncos beyond Tebow playing well so people will praise him and they have more material for their hero wetdreams.

I support Tebow and I look forward to him improving. But he needs to improve. He'd be the first to tell anyone that.

Do you expect to be judged the same way when you say that you wish Tebow would be traded so that these posters would go away?

OBF1
11-25-2011, 03:26 PM
I don't think there is anything wrong with wishing Tebow can improve on his mechanics but if you bring it up you get hammered by his fans. I agree Elway's PR skills need work but hating on his twitter page because you don't like what he has to say shows the class of Tebow's fans.

Let me get this straight.... Everyone that is negative "Posting on Elway's twitter account are only Tebow fans???

I know it is not possible for any number of trolls world wide, not just those that hang out on the orangemane to post negative things towards John Elway... Say like Cleveland Browns fans, Oakland raider, KC chief or SD charger fans world wide.

I hate to break this to you Denver/Colorado natives, but John Elway and the Denver Broncos are not held up that high on a pedestal in the rest of the country. Hence the comments seen on twit er.

Turd_Ferguson
11-25-2011, 03:27 PM
This. And this is WAY worse than Lelie/Plummer/Cutler (I wasn't here for Griese, though I've heard that was particularly terrible.)

None of those players had the following Tebow has and with an allegiance as fierce as his. And honestly probably none after will, at least not for the Broncos. Tebow is one of, if not the, greatest College players ever. You don't see those kinds come through a Franchise more than once in a blue moon.

I agree. I haven't been on the Mane for that long but I have been a Broncos fan my whole life, and have tons of friends that are. I remember arguing with people that I thought Griese wasn't that bad, only to hear he sucks. I remember the Brister Griese argument, and the Cutler vs Plummer, but there has never been any player with the Broncos that has caused such a huge debate with only 2 choices.

I used to think Cowherd was retarded for saying they shoulda traded Tebow, but I totally wish they would have now. His inability to throw the ball and his legions of die hard fans could be some other teams problems.

jhns
11-25-2011, 03:29 PM
I agree. I haven't been on the Mane for that long but I have been a Broncos fan my whole life, and have tons of friends that are. I remember arguing with people that I thought Griese wasn't that bad, only to hear he sucks. I remember the Brister Griese argument, and the Cutler vs Plummer, but there has never been any player with the Broncos that has caused such a huge debate with only 2 choices.

I used to think Cowherd was retarded for saying they shoulda traded Tebow, but I totally wish they would have now. His inability to throw the ball and his legions of die hard fans could be some other teams problems.

You have not been a Bronco fan. You just said you wished we had stayed with Orton. This means we aren't playing for the division. This means we are still one of the worst teams in the league. That sounds like a raider fan.

Br0nc0Buster
11-25-2011, 03:30 PM
There is nothing wrong with being a Tebow fan or rooting for him, but the retarded logic that some of his fanboys take is what gets annoying

I see a lot of them constantly talking about how Elway, Fox, etc.. are sabotaging him or setting him up to fail, etc...

Look no further than that stupid thread started by one of them about how Orton was only starting for financial reasons

I also remember them saying during the preseason how he went 7-8 in a game so his accuracy is just fine

Instead of having normal conversations about how Tebow can progress as a passer while we run things he is comfortable with, we are stuck arguing about stupid **** like whether or not Elway wants him to fail, or whether or not they are purposely designing an offense to make him look bad

Oh well I block it out, but it does seem like most threads result in some sort of Tebow argument anyways

Haroldthebarrel
11-25-2011, 03:30 PM
the odd thing about the tebow saga is that people defend him through personal attacks while simultaneously love him for his upstanding character.

Inkana7
11-25-2011, 03:31 PM
You have not been a Bronco fan. You just said you wished we had stayed with Orton. This means we aren't playing for the division. This means we are still one of the worst teams in the league. That sounds like a raider fan.

Give it a rest, dude. Or find new material.

CEH
11-25-2011, 03:31 PM
This. And this is WAY worse than Lelie/Plummer/Cutler (I wasn't here for Griese, though I've heard that was particularly terrible.)

None of those players had the following Tebow has and with an allegiance as fierce as his. And honestly probably none after will, at least not for the Broncos. Tebow is one of, if not the, greatest College players ever. You don't see those kinds come through a Franchise more than once in a blue moon.

I don't blame Tebownites. They are who they are and follow Tebow with vigor. If Elway or the PR dept has failed to recogize this then they aren't doing their job very effectively. All this social media backlash is brought on by Elway because he uses social media as a vehicle to get his word out. Worst case I would require anyone who wants to hear what John has to say to sign up on some sort of secure site off DenverBroncos.com. Then at least ppl have to take the initative to listen.

jhns
11-25-2011, 03:32 PM
Give it a rest, dude. Or find new material.

No. If you tell me you want the Broncos to lose, I will tell you that you aren't a fan. Period. If you hate the guy that turned this teams season around, you aren't a fan. Hate him if he fails down the road.

Archer81
11-25-2011, 03:32 PM
Give it a rest, dude. Or find new material.


Its jhns. His idea of rest is staring at a photo of McDaniels with a target superimposed over it while he puts on lipstick and cradles his sniper rifle.

:Broncos:

TDmvp
11-25-2011, 03:33 PM
Oh so you are one of those posters that go into threads and say who cares. Hilarious! Those guys kill me. "Oh look a new thread I wonder what this is about?" "Blah I don't like the topic so I will go upload my who cares gif to show them how much I don't care about the topic!"

I would go with I check most threads and as who cares worthy as this one was I dropped the who cares gif... I'd figure someone like you would over simple it tho.

Now that you know I didn't want us to draft Tebow and that line of attack comes off stupid vs me you gotta have something to bish about , I get it...

The OM good times.


Side note We need a way for people to identify if others at the mane are pro Tebow , anti Tebow or neutral so they don't have to think very hard or read old post before they attack someone be it pro or anti Tebow sides.
I may work on that...

DBroncos4life
11-25-2011, 03:36 PM
I would go with I check most threads and as who cares worthy as this one was I dropped the who cares gif... I'd figure someone like you would over simple it tho.

Now that you know I didn't want us to draft Tebow and that line of attack comes off stupid vs me you gotta have something to bish about , I get it...

The OM good times.


Side note We need a way for people to identify if others at the mane are pro Tebow , anti Tebow or neutral so they don't have to think very hard or read old post before they attack someone be it pro or anti Tebow sides.
I may work on that...

The people that are talking in this thread care about the topic. That's whey they are posting in the thread. Now run along to a thread you care about. :wave:

Turd_Ferguson
11-25-2011, 03:37 PM
You have not been a Bronco fan. You just said you wished we had stayed with Orton. This means we aren't playing for the division. This means we are still one of the worst teams in the league. That sounds like a raider fan.

I wanted Orton benched because after 2 years, it was painful to watch his complete lack of athletic ability. I thought it was a slap in the face to the fans to trot him out there again this year.

I now feel the same way about Tebow. Am I jumping the gun on judging him? Possible but doubtful. Is Tebow winning? NO. Is the TEAM winning. Yes. Imagine what they would be doing with a talented QB.

As far as Elway goes, he is the boss. If he doesn't feel like kissing Tebows a$$ he doesn't have to... He has whats called **** you money, and he doesn't care what Tebow Nation thinks. He was a better player than Tebow ever will be, and as of right now has more NFL experience, front office or otherwise, than anyone on this site.

Show where I said that. You should go over to ChefsPlanet where Mediocrity is applauded. You would fit in better there. The Broncos are more about winning championships with talented players as opposed to going 8-8 with a gimmick offense.

Haroldthebarrel
11-25-2011, 03:37 PM
how many of you think that Tebows way of coping with the controversy is to work even harder to create his own fate/ith.;)

jhns
11-25-2011, 03:38 PM
Show where I said that. You should go over to ChefsPlanet where Mediocrity is applauded. You would fit in better there. The Broncos are more about winning championships with talented players as opposed to going 8-8 with a gimmick offense.

So you wanted to go with Quinn? You didn't want to win any games? Again, you sound just like a raiders fan.

TDmvp
11-25-2011, 03:39 PM
The people that are talking in this thread care about the topic. That's whey they are posting in the thread. Now run along to a thread you care about. :wave:

Fair enough ... I have 0 issue with you anyway DB... It's more about how silly some of the stuff is around here the last few years.

bombay
11-25-2011, 03:42 PM
I don't blame Tebow for the Teblowers. But I'm looking forward to the time when another team has to put up with them.
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DBroncos4life
11-25-2011, 03:43 PM
Fair enough ... I have 0 issue with you anyway DB... It's more about how silly some of the stuff is around here the last few years.

No harm done man. Kaylore is pointing out that it doesn't matter who says or what is said about Tebow, if the Tebow's fans don't approve of what was said they go into attack mode. It's a HUGE issue for our fanbase moving forward in my opinion and should be talked about by Broncos fans.

gyldenlove
11-25-2011, 03:47 PM
I don't blame Tebownites. They are who they are and follow Tebow with vigor. If Elway or the PR dept has failed to recogize this then they aren't doing their job very effectively. All this social media backlash is brought on by Elway because he uses social media as a vehicle to get his word out. Worst case I would require anyone who wants to hear what John has to say to sign up on some sort of secure site off DenverBroncos.com. Then at least ppl have to take the initative to listen.

Elway and the Denver Broncos don't have to give 2 ****s about what Tebow's personal fans think - those fans produce only temporary revenue for the team and any revenue they do bring still does not match the revenue of playoff wins. If it ever becomes a choice of Tim Tebow and not having success and moving on and having a chance at success, Tebow will be jetisoned in a heart beat.

Kaylore
11-25-2011, 03:47 PM
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I simply don't see it. You can count the 'Tebow fanclub' on one hand (Macgruder, AlphaSierra, a couple more). This whole 'the fanbase has gone to hell because of Tebow' is a meme that is WAY WAY overblown.
Never said that.
Do you expect to be judged the same way when you say that you wish Tebow would be traded so that these posters would go away?
Or that.

Kaylore
11-25-2011, 03:48 PM
Its jhns. His idea of rest is staring at a photo of McDaniels with a target superimposed over it while he puts on lipstick and cradles his sniper rifle.

:Broncos:

In Jhiz's mind if you don't agree with him, you are a Raider fan.

DrFate
11-25-2011, 03:49 PM
Never said that.

I inferred it from your 'And this is WAY worse than Lelie/Plummer/Cutler' quote. And there are people who ARE saying the fanbase has gone to hell.

Didn't mean to put words in your mouth.

TDmvp
11-25-2011, 04:00 PM
No harm done man. Kaylore is pointing out that it doesn't matter who says or what is said about Tebow, if the Tebow's fans don't approve of what was said they go into attack mode. It's a HUGE issue for our fanbase moving forward in my opinion and should be talked about by Broncos fans.

I do agree hardcore Tebow fans are a little high strung... A lot plays into it tho i think.


The religion thing of course.
From being a younger generation on average I think and LOVING him in college.
Hero worship is even more hardcore now then it was in my childhood as well. With the net and all the ways to see/talk/view the guy you love...

I mean Elway was my sports hero and I can't image how bad the debate on him would have been if we the world could have done it in real time on the net LOL ...

But I didn't really want Tim , mocked it on draft night. Now tho after seeing the type of guy he is (im semi-atheistic for the record) I'm glad he's on the team and hope we keep him , give him a chance and he does well.

And I don't mind the added spot light in the media on the team and as far as the extremist from either the sides don't be thin skinned and it wont bother us. I see people saying I hope we trade him so we don't have to hear from Teboners. Well that's stupid and comes off like somehow the Teboners are stronger / less puss like then those who say that crap...


Me personally tho, I didn't want Tim , but hopes someday John Elway gets to stand next to Tim as they hand him the NFL trophy cause I love my team AND AFTER THE story line we got to see play out with Elway's last 2 seasons not much less then a Tebow super bowl win would even come close to how that felt anyway as far as the drama/coolness of it...

CEH
11-25-2011, 04:01 PM
Elway and the Denver Broncos don't have to give 2 ****s about what Tebow's personal fans think - those fans produce only temporary revenue for the team and any revenue they do bring still does not match the revenue of playoff wins. If it ever becomes a choice of Tim Tebow and not having success and moving on and having a chance at success, Tebow will be jetisoned in a heart beat.

It's Twitter not Tebownites. They are just the current fringe. I agree with Kreiger and have had the same opinion of this social media since Elway came online and got into a pissing match with Peter King. I doubt King is a so called Tebownite. You will always have a fringe that doesn't like what you have to say.

Smilin Assassin
11-25-2011, 04:02 PM
I root for Tim for several reasons:

1) He's a Bronco
2) He's tough as nails
3) He's just a likeable kid
4) He's a winner and a leader.

If you are a Florida fan, or a Tebow fan first, Bronco fan second.....Act like the man you root for. Have a thicker skin if Elway, Fox...or countless others don't simply embrace his every move.

I'm not letting the hate OR love of all-things-Tebow make me dislike him, or want him gone. I want him to succeed for the reasons I stated above. If Tim acted as some of you do when someone critiques him, I'd think a LOT less of him.

Play on, Tim.

Go Broncos!

TDmvp
11-25-2011, 04:03 PM
I root for Tim for several reasons:

1) He's a Bronco
2) He's tough as nails
3) He's just a likeable kid
4) He's a winner and a leader.

If you are a Florida fan, or a Tebow fan first, Bronco fan second.....Act like the man you root for. Have a thicker skin if Elway, Fox...or countless others don't simply embrace his every move.

I'm not letting the hate OR love of all-things-Tebow dislike him, or want him gone. I want him to succeed for the reasons I stated above. If Tim acted as some of you do when someone critiques him, I'd think a LOT less of him.

Play on, Tim.

Go Broncos!

Rep and well said SA ...
:bronxrox:

You said what I was trying to in less words ... LOL

Kaylore
11-25-2011, 04:08 PM
I root for Tim for several reasons:

1) He's a Bronco
2) He's tough as nails
3) He's just a likeable kid
4) He's a winner and a leader.

If you are a Florida fan, or a Tebow fan first, Bronco fan second.....Act like the man you root for. Have a thicker skin if Elway, Fox...or countless others don't simply embrace his every move.

I'm not letting the hate OR love of all-things-Tebow make me dislike him, or want him gone. I want him to succeed for the reasons I stated above. If Tim acted as some of you do when someone critiques him, I'd think a LOT less of him.

Play on, Tim.

Go Broncos!

Rep.

Agamemnon
11-25-2011, 04:10 PM
Agamemon, Alpha Sierra and Macgruder all joined shortly after Tebow was drafted. I suspect one or both wrote the above. They're a bunch of idiots who worship everything Tebow does and blame everything he doesn't on everyone but him. I want Tebow to succeed, he's an easy player to root for, but when I read comments like these, I almost hope we trade him so we don't have to put up with these idiots.

Seriously Kaylore? Sometimes I see why people respect your opinions on this board. Other times you're as big a douche as Rock Chalk. Good job dip****.

I support Tebow. I don't worship the guy. My posts are nothing like those two nutjobs, and the only people who make the comparison are assholes with a personal agenda.

And for the record I avoid twitter like the plague.

Kaylore
11-25-2011, 04:10 PM
I inferred it from your 'And this is WAY worse than Lelie/Plummer/Cutler' quote. And there are people who ARE saying the fanbase has gone to hell.

Didn't mean to put words in your mouth.

I haven't heard that. I HAVE heard he is the most polarizing figure in football, and maybe pro sports. And I can definitely say that case can be made. I can't remember a player where there was less middle ground than with Tebow. And its a national thing, not just here in Denver.

Jay3
11-25-2011, 04:16 PM
It's the lamest thing ever to drum up a bunch of emails or tweets from the public and conclude anything meaningful about any segment of the population.

Did we get into this (in a journalistic piece) when Vick came back from dog-killing? When TO and McNabb were having drama? You can always find tons of wack and venom in any public channel, and to make it part of the story is just the same old thing -- judging Tebow by a different standard than every other player.

"How can I write a story about Tebow? I know -- his crazy fans and their tweets."

Spider
11-25-2011, 04:17 PM
I haven't heard that. I HAVE heard he is the most polarizing figure in football, and maybe pro sports. And I can definitely say that case can be made. I can't remember a player where there was less middle ground than with Tebow. And its a national thing, not just here in Denver.

Tebow isnt polarizing , it is his ****ing fans .......I cant stand the cock suckers

Jay3
11-25-2011, 04:18 PM
I haven't heard that. I HAVE heard he is the most polarizing figure in football, and maybe pro sports. And I can definitely say that case can be made. I can't remember a player where there was less middle ground than with Tebow. And its a national thing, not just here in Denver.

But you have heard of plenty of players who were POPULAR, beloved, and caused excitement and support from fans. The main thing that's different about Tebow is the idea that it's CRAZY to think he's good, and the idea that his fans are a "cult."

The guy can play. It should be obvious by now why he inspires so much excitement and fan loyalty.

Kaylore
11-25-2011, 04:22 PM
Tebow isnt polarizing , it is his ****ing fans .......I cant stand the pink pony riders

Unfortunately there is a reactive nature to the fans that pushes people into the "anti" Tebow category.

MagicHef
11-25-2011, 04:24 PM
Never said that.

Or that.

That's weird. Did someone else write your OP?

DrFate
11-25-2011, 04:28 PM
Unfortunately there is a reactive nature to the fans that pushes people into the "anti" Tebow category.

I'm not paying attention to either side. Judge the player on his play.

Inkana7
11-25-2011, 04:32 PM
No. If you tell me you want the Broncos to lose, I will tell you that you aren't a fan. Period. If you hate the guy that turned this teams season around, you aren't a fan. Hate him if he fails down the road.

I don't think anyone on the Mane has said they hated Von Miller.

Agamemnon
11-25-2011, 04:33 PM
I'm not paying attention to either side. Judge the player on his play.

Especially when the Tebow haters are just as annoying and disgusting as the Tebow worshippers, if not more so. There's no shortage of either group.

Agamemnon
11-25-2011, 04:34 PM
I don't think anyone on the Mane has said they hated Von Miller.

Because Tebow's running, late game heroics, and turnover free play has had nothing to do with it right? ::)

Inkana7
11-25-2011, 04:35 PM
Because Tebow's running, late game heroics, and turnover free play has had nothing to do with it right? ::)

The turnover free play is a HUGE part of it, but ever since Tebow took over, our Defense has became Top 10 while our offense has taken a step back in scoring and 3rd down conversions. Give credit where credit is due.

barryr
11-25-2011, 04:37 PM
The turnover free play is a HUGE part of it, but ever since Tebow took over, our Defense has became Top 10 while our offense has taken a step back in scoring and 3rd down conversions. Give credit where credit is due.

You must also add that the team has mysteriously played with more intensity and life ever since the change at QB.

Agamemnon
11-25-2011, 04:40 PM
The turnover free play is a HUGE part of it, but ever since Tebow took over, our Defense has became Top 10 while our offense has taken a step back in scoring and 3rd down conversions. Give credit where credit is due.

You do realize that our running game has become elite in that time however heavily based off of Tebow's running ability, and that most of our wins have hinged on Tebow making plays in clutch situations yes? And you are aware of our coaching staff's tendency towards actively choosing to punt rather than trying to sustain drives yes? This selective way of looking at Tebow is fascinating to me.

Tebow is as much a part of this team's resurgence as anyone, and to say otherwise is categorically insane. Period.

TDmvp
11-25-2011, 04:40 PM
You must also add that the team has mysteriously played with more intensity and life ever since the change at QB.

That I will agree with ... The team has looked heartless most of the time for 2 + years - the games Tebow has started.

Agamemnon
11-25-2011, 04:41 PM
You must also add that the team has mysteriously played with more intensity and life ever since the change at QB.

That's just you being a Teboner. ;)

Turd_Ferguson
11-25-2011, 04:42 PM
The guy can play. It should be obvious by now why he inspires so much excitement and fan loyalty.

I don't understand how people watch him in a game and come away saying "The guy can play". What does that mean? can he throw a 15 yard out and hit the receiver in the numbers 6 out of 10 times? Can he make a defense pay for blitzing a safety by hitting a hot route for a big pass play? The guy is an athlete and he runs around and avoids the pressure (which is why he was better than orton), but to say the guy has the goods to play in the NFL? That I'm not at all sold on. Orton had the ARM to play in the NFL, but didn't have the athleticism, Tebow has the Athleticism, but not the arm..IMO

MagicHef
11-25-2011, 04:42 PM
I don't want to take anything away from Von, but I can't help but think that a lack of turnovers + Colquitt's leg has something to do with our sudden defensive prowess.

barryr
11-25-2011, 04:43 PM
That's just you being a Teboner. ;)

True, giving Tebow any credit is deemed by some just being a fan of his and not caring about the team. How dumb.

Turd_Ferguson
11-25-2011, 04:44 PM
That I will agree with ... The team has looked heartless most of the time for 2 + years - the games Tebow has started.

Are you saying Tebow, a quarterback, had more to do with the change in Defensive intensity than John Fox, a defensive minded head coach?

Agamemnon
11-25-2011, 04:45 PM
I don't understand how people watch him in a game and come away saying "The guy can play".

I don't understand how you could fail to understand that statement. "Play" does not necessarily mean "play like Aaron Rodgers". It means that the guy can make plays and make things happen on the football field, one way or another.

oubronco
11-25-2011, 04:45 PM
I see a RB trying to play QB and can't wait till we get a real QB in here

cutthemdown
11-25-2011, 04:46 PM
it just isnt them anymore , LMAO I just stated woulod have been classic if Tebow had been drafted by the Raiders , now some ass clown named Jetmeck wants me to eat crow ...... LMAO

Little does he know that is your favorite dish.

barryr
11-25-2011, 04:46 PM
I don't want to take anything away from Von, but I can't help but think that a lack of turnovers + Colquitt's leg has something to do with our sudden defensive prowess.

No question since if you go back even the last I would say 6-8 years, the Broncos have typically lost the battle of field position about every single game,with a shoddy defense and mediocre special teams. When you make offenses go 80 yards most of the game and an improved defense and your offense isn't always at best at the 20, that alone makes you better.

Jay3
11-25-2011, 04:46 PM
Unfortunately there is a reactive nature to the fans that pushes people into the "anti" Tebow category.

I reject that theory. Tebow has always caused an undue amount of venom against him that was not a counter-reaction. He just brings it out.

And I use "venom" in the broadest sense -- negative reactions of all kinds.

I can personally tell you there was a miniature version of this when he hit the SEC (before he won a Heisman), and people barely even knew anything about his religion.

Something about the way he looks throwing the ball drives approximately 44% of all humans crazy nuts. I promise you -heated arguments before the hype, before the Heisman.

cutthemdown
11-25-2011, 04:47 PM
I see a RB trying to play QB and can't wait till we get a real QB in here

He's more like the TE in NE Gronkowski lol.

Agamemnon
11-25-2011, 04:47 PM
I don't want to take anything away from Von, but I can't help but think that a lack of turnovers + Colquitt's leg has something to do with our sudden defensive prowess.

TOP is a big part of it as well. Von Miller is clearly our defensive MVP right now, probably our MVP overall actually, but trying to say we have managed this resurgence in spite of Tebow is pure bull****. If anything we've managed this resurgence in spite of some of the worst offensive coaching I've ever seen.

DrFate
11-25-2011, 04:47 PM
I see a RB trying to play QB and can't wait till we get a real QB in here

Why not root for the guy to succeed?

oubronco
11-25-2011, 04:48 PM
I don't want to take anything away from Von, but I can't help but think that a lack of turnovers + Colquitt's leg has something to do with our sudden defensive prowess.

Imagine that it's a TEAM game

GreatBronco16
11-25-2011, 04:49 PM
So just for curiosity sake. Just how many 'Tebowner' fans do you deal with?

Are we just talking about the 3 or 4 from here? Like McGruder and AlphaSierra? Or are there more people that you actually see in person on a day to day basis?


Are some of you really getting so worked up to the point that you want Tebow gone just so you don't have to deal with less than 10 people who are more Tebow fans than Bronco fans? And yes I know there are more out there in the world, but only a handfull are on this board.

Some of you get so upset over these types of things, then feel the need to make a thread about it showing your displeasure about it, when all you need to do to rid yourself of those very, very few people around here are.......

1. Don't respond to their posts.
2. Put them on ignore
3. Quit feeding them the attention they are looking for.

oubronco
11-25-2011, 04:50 PM
Why not root for the guy to succeed?

I do but come on let's not get carried away if it wasn't for his running what would he have

Jay3
11-25-2011, 04:53 PM
but to say the guy has the goods to play in the NFL? That I'm not at all sold on.

Hate to break it to you, but that question is already answered. This is the NFL. He's the starter, and they're 4-1.

Whether he's the direction they want to go permanently, that's a question.

But he's an NFL-level talent at quarterback. One of the best in the world at what he does. Accept it.

And when you see him throwing better, don't act all surprised and wonder what happened. Some part of you has to realized it has been rough going at times to start, but that he can throw better than we've seen at times.

DrFate
11-25-2011, 04:54 PM
I do but come on let's not get carried away if it wasn't for his running what would he have

He'd have passing numbers that compare favorably to a number of other rookie QBs?

GreatBronco16
11-25-2011, 04:54 PM
I do but come on let's not get carried away if it wasn't for his running what would he have

A 1-4 record to match Orton for the year?:giggle:

Agamemnon
11-25-2011, 04:55 PM
Why not root for the guy to succeed?

Posts like that are why we supporters get so up in arms sometimes. That is pure garbage right there. It's absolutely unfair and ridiculous to dismiss a guy as a QB who has a total of eight starts in the NFL, and to say he's an RB playing QB is just nothing but poison and hate. Running backs playing quarterback don't lead their teams on three fourth quarter comebacks in eight starts.

This kind of **** makes me sick. It's something I would expect from a Raider or Chief fan when talking about a young Bronco QB, not a Bronco fan.

(I would've responded to the post itself, but I have oubronco on ignore, and rightfully so it seems.)

barryr
11-25-2011, 04:56 PM
So just for curiosity sake. Just how many 'Tebowner' fans do you deal with?

Are we just talking about the 3 or 4 from here? Like McGruder and AlphaSierra? Or are there more people that you actually see in person on a day to day basis?


Are some of you really getting so worked up to the point that you want Tebow gone just so you don't have to deal with less than 10 people who are more Tebow fans than Bronco fans? And yes I know there are more out there in the world, but only a handfull are on this board.

Some of you get so upset over these types of things, then feel the need to make a thread about it showing your displeasure about it, when all you need to do to rid yourself of those very, very few people around here are.......

1. Don't respond to their posts.
2. Put them on ignore
3. Quit feeding them the attention they are looking for.

Well put, which leads me to think it isn't people on some football forum making those wanting Tebow to fail since pretty easy for them to do as you say. That is just an weak excuse since it is such a dumb one. I mean, "I want Tebow gone so some fans on a football forum won't post supporting him anymore." That's called dumb.

vonqkilla
11-25-2011, 05:00 PM
I say we post vids of plummer underthrowing bombs to lelie mixed with cutler to javon and bmarsh.

Should we have benched jake after the terrible game in stl. or was it shannys bad playcalling that killed jake?

Blueflame
11-25-2011, 05:03 PM
:~ohyah!: There would be a firestorm. It's like he's started his own religion. It's amazing the laughably horrible things that are being said, things I would assume even many Tebow supporters would find over the top, and look at this, half the posts are basically endorsing the behavior (Jhiz is on ignore. I can only assume he said something about me supporting McDaniels.)

It was about you personally (an inaccurate characterization), not the thread topic.

Spider
11-25-2011, 05:07 PM
Little does he know that is your favorite dish.

no my favorite dish was your ........ Nevermind

GreatBronco16
11-25-2011, 05:14 PM
Why do you guys get so worked up over what others say? You are such a weak individual.

Just so Kay can see.

Which with the damn crying going on in his opening post, it does kinda make sense.

Turd_Ferguson
11-25-2011, 05:15 PM
Hate to break it to you, but that question is already answered. This is the NFL. He's the starter, and they're 4-1.

But he's an NFL-level talent at quarterback. One of the best in the world at what he does. Accept it.

And when you see him throwing better, don't act all surprised and wonder what happened. Some part of you has to realized it has been rough going at times to start, but that he can throw better than we've seen at times.

Tim Tebow is one of the best quarterbacks in the world? The only question that has been answered is if the Broncos, as a team, can play well enough to win with a QB that can't be counted on to throw the ball. With him starting they have beat the Jets, Chiefs, Raiders, and Dolphins they have a combined record of 18-23.

I credit those wins to John Fox (not Tebow) revitalizing the defense, Von Miller becoming a pass rushing star, DJ Williams playing inspired football the last few weeks, Champ Bailey working through injuries, McCoy for coming up with an offense that can work with someone that can't throw, McGahee for his leader ship (notice he is the new captain not Tebow) and the ST for coming up big, particularly Colquitt. The offense has been a non factor for the majority of these games, and yet the Quarterback is interviewed after every game and asked how HE does it..

Agamemnon
11-25-2011, 05:18 PM
Tim Tebow is one of the best quarterbacks in the world? The only question that has been answered is if the Broncos, as a team, can play well enough to win with a QB that can't be counted on to throw the ball. With him starting they have beat the Jets, Chiefs, Raiders, and Dolphins they have a combined record of 18-23.

I credit those wins to John Fox (not Tebow) revitalizing the defense, Von Miller becoming a pass rushing star, DJ Williams playing inspired football the last few weeks, Champ Bailey working through injuries, McCoy for coming up with an offense that can work with someone that can't throw, McGahee for his leader ship (notice he is the new captain not Tebow) and the ST for coming up big, particularly Colquitt. The offense has been a non factor for the majority of these games, and yet the Quarterback is interviewed after every game and asked how HE does it..

Wow....

GreatBronco16
11-25-2011, 05:23 PM
Tim Tebow is one of the best quarterbacks in the world? The only question that has been answered is if the Broncos, as a team, can play well enough to win with a QB that can't be counted on to throw the ball. With him starting they have beat the Jets, Chiefs, Raiders, and Dolphins they have a combined record of 18-23.

I credit those wins to John Fox (not Tebow) revitalizing the defense, Von Miller becoming a pass rushing star, DJ Williams playing inspired football the last few weeks, Champ Bailey working through injuries, McCoy for coming up with an offense that can work with someone that can't throw, McGahee for his leader ship (notice he is the new captain not Tebow) and the ST for coming up big, particularly Colquitt. The offense has been a non factor for the majority of these games, and yet the Quarterback is interviewed after every game and asked how HE does it..

Holy cow man. You could save time in your posting if you just typed 'I hate Tebow' every time you feel the need to post.

MagicHef
11-25-2011, 05:24 PM
Imagine that it's a TEAM game

Exactly. Tebow starting and playing the way he has has improved almost all facets of this team, because of the way different parts of the team rely on eachother. I'm glad you agree.

Jay3
11-25-2011, 05:32 PM
Funny how when it was Orton starting, there was all the "I trust the experts" and "I trust the decision of Coach Fox to put the best team out there." Or I'm glad he did the right thing and didn't listen to the Tebowners.

But when Tebow starts in four wins, all the sudden it's a sideshow just to placate some crazy fans. And when Elway says he sees improvement in Tebow, well he's just saying that to be nice. And we get stories like this one, highlighting how much sorrow we should feel for Elway having to have tweets about him.

It seems everybody only "trusts the experts" when they happen to agree with them. (Including yours truly).

Turd_Ferguson
11-25-2011, 05:40 PM
Funny how when it was Orton starting, there was all the "I trust the experts" and "I trust the decision of Coach Fox to put the best team out there." Or I'm glad he did the right thing and didn't listen to the Tebowners.

But when Tebow starts in four wins, all the sudden it's a sideshow just to placate some crazy fans. And when Elway says he sees improvement in Tebow, well he's just saying that to be nice. And we get stories like this one, highlighting how much sorrow we should feel for Elway having to have tweets about him.

It seems everybody only "trusts the experts" when they happen to agree with them. (Including yours truly).

To be fair Elway said two things... He said he is not convinced the future at quarterback is on the roster, AND that Tebow is improving. So really we all agree with Elway...

Spider
11-25-2011, 05:41 PM
cant believe this open blantant blastphomy of tebow ...... maybe if elway says 20 hail tebows and a heart felt sorrry , Teboners will forgive him .....slim chance though

TailgateNut
11-25-2011, 05:43 PM
What the hell happened to you Man? I never pictured you a Hater and a Divisive Fan but you've turned to the dark side.

Another idiotic comment from an idiot. Tebonites are what is turning me away from the OM and from open tailgates. I am sick of you and your ilk.

Broncos_OTM
11-25-2011, 05:45 PM
Why do you guys get so worked up over what others say? You are such a weak individual.
OOOOOOOOOO the irony

Jay3
11-25-2011, 05:46 PM
To be fair Elway said two things... He said he is not convinced the future at quarterback is on the roster, AND that Tebow is improving. So really we all agree with Elway...

He didn't say he wasn't convinced, he said he was "no closer" to that decision than he was at the beginning of the season.

It's what made the whole Q&A exchange a little sharper, a little more mean sounding. How can you not concede closer? Just to be diplomatic and encouraging? Why not say "Well, we're about 4 wins closer to the playoffs, and that's what I said was the most important thing. We just take it all in, do our job, and don't get to the decision-making until it's time for that."

I almost think Elway misheard the question -- that he was thinking he was asked "Is it decided yet?"

And that's directly relevant -- to the extent the crazy tweets are worth writing a newspaper article about, and having a thread about, it's relevant that the answer was thoroughly non-savvy and sort of shocking to say about your quarterback when he's right in the middle of getting it done for you. (And then compounding it by listing faults -- as if that's the reason he hasn't decided yet. Should have just stuck with "it's not time to decide, we want to see more).

Dr. Broncenstein
11-25-2011, 05:46 PM
Another idiotic comment from an idiot. Tebonites are what is turning me away from the OM and from open tailgates. I am sick of you and your ilk.

Do something about it.

Shananahan
11-25-2011, 05:47 PM
Everytime I see TailgateNut has posted in a Tebow-related thread I can't click fast enough to see if it's the final goodbye.

Jay3
11-25-2011, 05:48 PM
Another idiotic comment from an idiot. Tebonites are what is turning me away from the OM and from open tailgates. I am sick of you and your ilk.

Honestly, it's better without you and your caustic cynicism. You have as much right to be here as anyone, but it's certainly no threat to whine about what's "turning you away" as if we care. It's an encouraging thought.

Jay3
11-25-2011, 05:48 PM
Whoops. I sort of piled on unintentionally.

Jay3
11-25-2011, 05:49 PM
To be fair Elway said two things... He said he is not convinced the future at quarterback is on the roster, AND that Tebow is improving. So really we all agree with Elway...

But not all -- there's been quite a bit of Tebow-trashing saying there has been no improvement. When to the careful observer, there clearly has.

vonqkilla
11-25-2011, 05:50 PM
You run Larsen on 3rd and 3, and Teebs fans have every right to be pissed.
3Rd and 9 swing passes to J.J., bubble screens to royal on 3rd and 9 just outside fg range

The playcalling is atrocious in situations like that. All Bronco fans are frustrated with bs calls like that.

Spider
11-25-2011, 05:55 PM
But not all -- there's been quite a bit of Tebow-trashing saying there has been no improvement. When to the careful observer, there clearly has.

I have always said Tebow will be a great one , all he needs is time , everyone is suspect of the play calling , well you can only do so much with tebow right now , I like what McCoy and Fox are doing , building Tebow confidence , introducing him to more a little at a time .I think and this is only my opinion , I think Elway is hoping to see more progression faster then what has been shown so far ........

Dr. Broncenstein
11-25-2011, 05:56 PM
I have always said Tebow will be a great one , all he needs is time , everyone is suspect of the play calling , well you can only do so much with tebow right now , I like what McCoy and Fox are doing , building Tebow confidence , introducing him to more a little at a time .I think and this is only my opinion , I think Elway is hoping to see more progression faster then what has been shown so far ........

Who are you and what have you done with Spider

Blueflame
11-25-2011, 06:00 PM
Do something about it.

He already did. He stopped having "open" tailgates. Now he knows exactly how many people he's feeding/hosting on gamedays.

Rohirrim
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Spider
11-25-2011, 06:02 PM
Who are you and what have you done with Spider

LOL lost my head for a second there , met a reasonable Tebow fan ...didnt know how to act ;D

Dr. Broncenstein
11-25-2011, 06:03 PM
LOL lost my head for a second there , met a reasonable Tebow fan ...didnt know how to act ;D

I was about to call smokey and tell them to look for a hijacker.

Spider
11-25-2011, 06:05 PM
I was about to call smokey and tell them to look for a hijacker.

:~ohyah!:

TailgateNut
11-25-2011, 06:07 PM
He already did. He stopped having "open" tailgates. Now he knows exactly how many people he's feeding/hosting on gamedays.

:yayaya:and life is better without a bunch of delusional Tebonites preaching about his GREATNESS for hours on end

TailgateNut
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Yup, and THEY wonder why we are sick of them and due to them him. Aside from the fact that he is setting 3 and out records and throws like Stevie Wonder with a bad case of tennis elbow.

gyldenlove
11-25-2011, 06:20 PM
I can't decide if the more obnoxious segment of the Tebow fans is more or less annoying the worst of the Mcdaniels fans.

Taco John
11-25-2011, 06:25 PM
I gotta agree with Kaylore. I like Tebow a great deal. But the fans that he attracts are pretty vile people when you read what they have to say in Elway's twitter stream. I'm about to the point of holding Tebow accountable for saying something to his fanbase about acting in a manner that represents him better.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-25-2011, 06:27 PM
The most polarizing player in a league full of degenerates, deadbeats, rapists, and murderers.

TailgateNut
11-25-2011, 06:28 PM
....asking a hypocrite to not act like a christian, or is it asking a...........what's the use....

Nwp-Apap
11-25-2011, 06:30 PM
Another idiotic comment from an idiot. Tebonites are what is turning me away from the OM and from open tailgates. I am sick of you and your ilk.

Then leave. :yayaya:

Shananahan
11-25-2011, 06:31 PM
I'm about to the point of holding Tebow accountable for saying something to his fanbase about acting in a manner that represents him better.
Gimme a freakin' break.

Broncos4tw
11-25-2011, 06:32 PM
I'm not sold on Tebow either. People bitch when there is not transparency, and then they bitch when there is. I'm willing for Tebow to have his chance.. and I think Elway is willing to give him a shot as well. Getting rid of Orton is a pretty strong message.

But aside from rallies that probably wouldn't have been necessary with solid play throughout the game, Tebow has done little to make me think he is the QB of our future. A running QB has a huge target on his head. It's not a matter of if he will get hurt, but when, and how bad will it be.

Love his attitude. Love his fire to win. Love his moxy when the going gets tough.. just the opposite of Orton.. but not liking the whole "throws are off by 15+ yards" thing, and his run-first, pass last mentality.

Nwp-Apap
11-25-2011, 06:32 PM
I have always said Tebow will be a great one , all he needs is time , everyone is suspect of the play calling , well you can only do so much with tebow right now , I like what McCoy and Fox are doing , building Tebow confidence , introducing him to more a little at a time .I think and this is only my opinion , I think Elway is hoping to see more progression faster then what has been shown so far ........

Well put, and obviously, I agree.

errand
11-25-2011, 06:35 PM
I don't want to take anything away from Von, but I can't help but think that a lack of turnovers + Colquitt's leg has something to do with our sudden defensive prowess.

In the first 4.5 games defense generated 8 sacks....since halftime of chargers game they generated 19 sacks. Von Miller and the return to health of Dumervil and DJ is the biggest reason why our D is playing better.

Jay3
11-25-2011, 06:38 PM
I gotta agree with Kaylore. I like Tebow a great deal. But the fans that he attracts are pretty vile people when you read what they have to say in Elway's twitter stream. I'm about to the point of holding Tebow accountable for saying something to his fanbase about acting in a manner that represents him better.

I can't believe you draw meaningful conclusions about "the fans he attacts" from a bunch of tweets.

The general public of any stripe is always pretty vile.

TailgateNut
11-25-2011, 06:39 PM
Then leave. :yayaya:


Oh lookee here, another oneHilarious!


It was pretty bad when we found as those new Bronco fans after out B2B SB wins, but the Tebonites take the cake. ****ing gaggle of idiots

Spider
11-25-2011, 06:43 PM
In the first 4.5 games defense generated 8 sacks....since halftime of chargers game they generated 19 sacks. Von Miller and the return to health of Dumervil and DJ is the biggest reason why our D is playing better.

I would hate to be the O cord facing those 2 ..... Obviously Miller is to fast and Nimble to be chipped blocked , you have to double Doom ....

barryr
11-25-2011, 07:20 PM
Tebow needs to tell anonymous people on the internet he doesn't know to behave better? How about fans of this team behaving better in this forum and better representing the Bronco team instead of wanting their QB gone or hoping for failure simply because not liking his fans, which he has no control over? Saying "Tebow fans" are terrible, yet dismissing the daily crap spewed by his detractors is selective to say the least.

Turd_Ferguson
11-25-2011, 07:20 PM
Wow....

Are you shocked that someone would say these have been team wins not Tebow wins?

Inkana7
11-25-2011, 07:24 PM
You must also add that the team has mysteriously played with more intensity and life ever since the change at QB.

Yeah, it's so weird that they're starting to look like every John Fox team ever.

Jay3
11-25-2011, 07:28 PM
Yeah, it's so weird that they're starting to look like every John Fox team ever.

Fail.

Turd_Ferguson
11-25-2011, 08:24 PM
Yeah, it's so weird that they're starting to look like every John Fox team ever.

You mean running the ball and playing good defense? Lots of big hits and quarterback pressure?

MagicHef
11-25-2011, 08:27 PM
In the first 4.5 games defense generated 8 sacks....since halftime of chargers game they generated 19 sacks. Von Miller and the return to health of Dumervil and DJ is the biggest reason why our D is playing better.

Yeah, it's so weird that they're starting to look like every John Fox team ever.

You guys must hate that all these complete coincidinces happened right as Tebow started playing.

cutthemdown
11-25-2011, 08:40 PM
Here is why Tebow wins and Orton did not. Orton threw ball better, but didn't really score a lot of points out of it in relation to the turnovers. Tebow, because he runs, has opened up running lanes for the rbs. What happens is those DE are froze and unable to crash down the backside. Just that little bit has opened up the running, allowing us to control the clock a bit more.

Now we have a punter pinning people because offense not making mistakes. Then, defense gets healthy, pass rush goes off, and because they are in better field position shape they start giving up way less points.

Then overall the special teams just way better. knock on wood.

Let's see what happens. If Tebow added in 100 more yrds and a passing td a game Broncos would be super tough to hang with. You might have to Suh Tebow in the nads to get it done.

theAPAOps5
11-25-2011, 09:06 PM
What the hell happened to you Man? I never pictured you a Hater and a Divisive Fan but you've turned to the dark side.

Nothing happened to HIM and HE hasn't gone to the dark side. So that probably leaves one last common denominator, don't YOU think.......

bombay
11-25-2011, 09:51 PM
I gotta agree with Kaylore. I like Tebow a great deal. But the fans that he attracts are pretty vile people when you read what they have to say in Elway's twitter stream. I'm about to the point of holding Tebow accountable for saying something to his fanbase about acting in a manner that represents him better.

Yep. I don't know how much of it he is aware of, but he can't be happy with a lot of the loonies who are reperesenting themselves as his biggest fans. I feel sorry for him in that respect.

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 10:04 PM
There is nothing wrong with being a Tebow fan or rooting for him, but the retarded logic that some of his fanboys take is what gets annoying

I see a lot of them constantly talking about how Elway, Fox, etc.. are sabotaging him or setting him up to fail, etc...

Look no further than that stupid thread started by one of them about how Orton was only starting for financial reasons

I also remember them saying during the preseason how he went 7-8 in a game so his accuracy is just fine

Instead of having normal conversations about how Tebow can progress as a passer while we run things he is comfortable with, we are stuck arguing about stupid **** like whether or not Elway wants him to fail, or whether or not they are purposely designing an offense to make him look bad

Oh well I block it out, but it does seem like most threads result in some sort of Tebow argument anyways

Well, threads like this one are intended only to whine about other fans, not to talk about the issues.

The original post here reads like a teenager's tantrum about who is cool enough for his favorite cliques. Its juvenile. Posts like that perpetuate the juvenile issues.

People like Kaylore are proof for why Elway needs to just let the team be the story and quit stirring the fanbase.

theAPAOps5
11-25-2011, 10:06 PM
Well, threads like this one are intended only to whine about other fans, not to talk about the issues.

The original post here reads like a teenager's tantrum about who is cool enough for his favorite cliques. Its juvenile. Posts like that perpetuate the juvenile issues.

People like Kaylore are proof for why Elway needs to just let the team be the story and quit stirring the fanbase.

Says the biggest fit throwing child on the board. You go on a tirade anytime your boy Tebow is questioned. I know you are a Broncos fan you were here long before Tebow. But I question if you still will be if Tebow were to get his moving orders.

Blueflame
11-25-2011, 10:08 PM
Well, threads like this one are intended only to whine about other fans, not to talk about the issues.

The original post here reads like a teenager's tantrum about who is cool enough for his favorite cliques. Its juvenile. Posts like that perpetuate the juvenile issues.

People like Kaylore are proof for why Elway needs to just let the team be the story and quit stirring the fanbase.

Actually Kaylore posted an article from the Denver Post. Your issue is with Krieger; not Kaylore.

And it is a valid discussion topic... the amount of abuse and the level of hostility aimed toward John Elway on his twitter page. Broncos fans in general "should" be outraged.

theAPAOps5
11-25-2011, 10:08 PM
Actually Kaylore posted an article from the Denver Post. Your issue is with Krieger; not Kaylore.

His issue is with Tebow and his creepy obsession with him.

Archer81
11-25-2011, 10:08 PM
I gotta agree with Kaylore. I like Tebow a great deal. But the fans that he attracts are pretty vile people when you read what they have to say in Elway's twitter stream. I'm about to the point of holding Tebow accountable for saying something to his fanbase about acting in a manner that represents him better.


So...when people on this board are asshats, we can hold you accountable for their asshattery? Adults should police themselves. An obnoxious asshole bashing Elway for not being completely sold on Tebow is not a reflection of Tebow; it says more about that individual than anything else.


:Broncos:

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 10:09 PM
I gotta agree with Kaylore. I like Tebow a great deal. But the fans that he attracts are pretty vile people when you read what they have to say in Elway's twitter stream. I'm about to the point of holding Tebow accountable for saying something to his fanbase about acting in a manner that represents him better.

All you have in the media are negative stories, takes, and opinions about Tebow on repeat. It shouldn't be any wonder why people who have become fans of his feel the need to reflect the same negativity back at those who generate it.

If Elway wants it to stop, he shouldn't say things that he knows will be controversial. Its simple, really. Elway's a man...he can take the criticism. We shouldn't be feeling sorry for Elway because he is saying unwise things that make people raid his twitter account.

Elway is basically trolling the fanbase.

Elway is the one perpetuating this. He's reaping what he sowed.

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 10:09 PM
Actually Kaylore posted an article from the Denver Post. Your issue is with Krieger; not Kaylore.

No, he had a little juvenile tantrum in the post.

Inkana7
11-25-2011, 10:10 PM
Well, threads like this one are intended only to whine about other fans, not to talk about the issues.

The original post here reads like a teenager's tantrum about who is cool enough for his favorite cliques. Its juvenile. Posts like that perpetuate the juvenile issues.

People like Kaylore are proof for why Elway needs to just let the team be the story and quit stirring the fanbase.

This is rich.

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 10:10 PM
Says the biggest fit throwing child on the board. You go on a tirade anytime your boy Tebow is questioned. I know you are a Broncos fan you were here long before Tebow. But I question if you still will be if Tebow were to get his moving orders.

Do you have a link to any Tebow "tirades" of mine?

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 10:13 PM
This is rich.

It certainly is. Its rich with truth.

Steve Sewell
11-25-2011, 10:16 PM
I miss mock.

Blueflame
11-25-2011, 10:16 PM
No, he had a little juvenile tantrum in the post.

Nonetheless, the debate topic is valid because it's a current newspaper column. And I'd say some of those quoted from John Elway's twitter page... had "juvenile tantrums" too. Very unseemly and offensive.

GreatBronco16
11-25-2011, 10:16 PM
Actually Kaylore posted an article from the Denver Post. Your issue is with Krieger; not Kaylore.

And it is a valid discussion topic... the amount of abuse and the level of hostility aimed toward John Elway on his twitter page. Broncos fans in general "should" be outraged.

Ummm no.

Kay posted this because he feels that one of about three posters here are the ones posting that stuff on Elways twitter account. Now he's nearly at the point where he hopes Tebow is traded just so this board will get rid of a couple posters. I mean seriously? Does the life of someone suck that bad to where what a couple of people say or do on a message board leads you to want a player dumped?

I say maybe it's time for some people to take a break from the world of message boards and twitter pages, and just go back to watching games and enjoying them.

Archer81
11-25-2011, 10:16 PM
I miss mock.


STFU.

:Broncos:

theAPAOps5
11-25-2011, 10:17 PM
Do you have a link to any Tebow "tirades" of mine?

Any thread where Tebow is bashed or looked on negatively or where Elway is mentioned you are there crying for your lover.

I know you are dramatic but now you are lazy. I never really bought into the famous Slap thread. But I think he was dead right.

theAPAOps5
11-25-2011, 10:18 PM
STFU.

:Broncos:

Buy a vowel

Archer81
11-25-2011, 10:19 PM
Buy a vowel


I begged hi. On my knees with tears in my eyes. Dont go down meth alley.


:Broncos:

GreatBronco16
11-25-2011, 10:19 PM
Buy a vowel

Go visit Meth Ally.

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 10:20 PM
Any thread where Tebow is bashed or looked on negatively or where Elway is mentioned you are there crying for your lover.

I know you are dramatic but now you are lazy. I never really bought into the famous Slap thread. But I think he was dead right.

Seriously...find a "tirade".

You're the one who brought it up. Back up your words with some evidence. We'll talk about it. I'll be waiting.

Inkana7
11-25-2011, 10:21 PM
Do you have a link to any Tebow "tirades" of mine?

Cue links to every time you've called someone who supposedly doesn't like Tebow a "bigot."

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 10:22 PM
Nonetheless, the debate topic is valid because it's a current newspaper column. And I'd say some of those quoted from John Elway's twitter page... had "juvenile tantrums" too. Very unseemly and offensive.

The media around Tebow is overwhelmingly negative. Its no surprise that people who like Tebow are responding to negative press with negative posts. It shouldn't be that surprising.

We all know what trolling is.

John Elway is basically trolling right now.

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 10:23 PM
Cue links to every time you've called someone who supposedly doesn't like Tebow a "bigot."

The most recent post of mine that mentioned bigots was the thread inviting all types of people back onto the Broncos bandwagon...bigots included. (ahem...TGN)

theAPAOps5
11-25-2011, 10:24 PM
Cue links to every time you've called someone who supposedly doesn't like Tebow a "bigot."

The Troll wants us to play a game. He doesn't think he throws fits so in his mind there are none to find.

theAPAOps5
11-25-2011, 10:24 PM
The media around Tebow is overwhelmingly negative. Its no surprise that people who like Tebow are responding to negative press with negative posts. It shouldn't be that surprising.

We all know what trolling is.

John Elway is basically trolling right now.

Oh wait a fit, that was easy

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 10:25 PM
Oh wait a fit, that was easy

That was a "fit"?

Goodness, man. That was conversational.

I think its you who has the problem. I'm sure that Blueflame is mature enough to handle that conversation.

theAPAOps5
11-25-2011, 10:28 PM
That was a "fit"?

Goodness, man. That was conversational.

I think its you who has the problem. I'm sure that Blueflame is mature enough to handle that conversation.

A problem! :spit: dude you just accused an executive of a team of trolling because he is being completely honest.

That is a fit.

Maybe you should go take a break and find some reality.

Blueflame
11-25-2011, 10:29 PM
Ummm no.

Kay posted this because he feels that one of about three posters here are the ones posting that stuff on Elways twitter account. Now he's nearly at the point where he hopes Tebow is traded just so this board will get rid of a couple posters. I mean seriously? Does the life of someone suck that bad to where what a couple of people say or do on a message board leads you to want a player dumped?

I say maybe it's time for some people to take a break from the world of message boards and twitter pages, and just go back to watching games and enjoying them.

It is entirely possible that the same people who posted on Elway's twitter page "could" (note: I did not say do) post here on the Mane as well. Clearly someone who uses Twitter is capable of finding an internet message board... and anyone who is that passionate in their defense of Tebow "might" be inclined to seek other avenues ("soapboxes") besides twitter... and/or other "enemies of Tebow" to verbally vanquish.

Yes, there probably are people... on both sides of the "Great Tebow War"... who could stand to take a break from the net. But that's up to each individual to determine.

Blueflame
11-25-2011, 10:32 PM
The media around Tebow is overwhelmingly negative. Its no surprise that people who like Tebow are responding to negative press with negative posts. It shouldn't be that surprising.

We all know what trolling is.

John Elway is basically trolling right now.

No, Epic, he's not trolling. He's telling the truth. They have not decided not to take a QB in next year's draft.

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 10:32 PM
A problem! :spit: dude you just accused an executive of a team of trolling because he is being completely honest.

That is a fit.

Maybe you should go take a break and find some reality.

Atenolol. Its a good thing. Check it out.

Inkana7
11-25-2011, 10:33 PM
The media around Tebow is overwhelmingly negative. Its no surprise that people who like Tebow are responding to negative press with negative posts. It shouldn't be that surprising.

We all know what trolling is.

John Elway is basically trolling right now.

Let's fine some negative press on Tebow.

Step 1: Google: "Tim Tebow News"

Step 2: click on the top 5 articles about Tebow, bypassing game recaps:

http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/statsdriven/2011/11/quantifying_tim_tebows_miracle.html <---This is actually a really cool article.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Tim-Tebow-John-Fox-sabotage-Denver-Broncos-in-loss-to-Detroit-Lions-103011

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/guest-voices/post/what-is-it-about-tim-tebow/2011/10/30/gIQAYrYEZM_blog.html

http://news.yahoo.com/those-close-tim-tebow-hes-real-deal-231349701.html

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-silver_tim_tebow_broncos_jets_christian111811



http://weeklyworldnews.com/sports/20461/tim-tebow-converts-to-judaism/ :~ohyah!:


Where is this venomous media?

Shananahan
11-25-2011, 10:33 PM
Yes, there probably are people... on both sides of the "Great Tebow War"... who could stand to take a break from the net.
Everybody even remotely involved in it at this point should just log off until next season.

theAPAOps5
11-25-2011, 10:34 PM
Atenolol. Its a good thing. Check it out.

Reality, it is awesome. Check it out, loser

Blueflame
11-25-2011, 10:36 PM
Everybody even remotely involved in it at this point should just log off until next season.

Won't happen... when opinions are strong, people are going to find a means of expressing them. The key is making an effort to remain civil while still disagreeing with someone else. And not everyone is willing to make even a token effort toward maintaining civility.

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 10:40 PM
No, Epic, he's not trolling. He's telling the truth. They have not decided not to take a QB in next year's draft.

Sure, but he should understand the results of a person speaking on behalf of team management making those kinds of non-supportive statements about a player who has delivered the most fun Broncos football in years.

Tebow has been a huge part of making Broncos football fun again. Elway's statements undercut that fun and take it away from some people. Aware of the consequences of his words or not, he is trolling those people. Thats not good management.

And like it or not, there are people who unlike you and I didn't get to experience Elway as a player. They arent giving him carte blanche. Imagine that Broncos management constantly talked about trading Elway when he was instilling hope in the fans with his early comeback victories...it would have turned the fanbase off. Heck, I lived in Oklahoma during that time and we got Broncos games from time to time. Elway made me a football fan. He made me a Broncos fan. There are alot of young Tebow fans out there who are experiencing the same thing. Theres absolutely NOTHING wrong with that. Nothing at all. Hopefully they become Broncos fans for life like I did.

Elway needs to swallow his pride here and just be the better man. He needs to rise above his pride and do the best thing for the franchise, and thats being respectful of the players on the field and the team and getting out of their way.

Turd_Ferguson
11-25-2011, 10:41 PM
The media around Tebow is overwhelmingly negative. Its no surprise that people who like Tebow are responding to negative press with negative posts. It shouldn't be that surprising.

We all know what trolling is.

John Elway is basically trolling right now.

Hmm well its too bad that you feel that way. You see John Elway doesn't appear to share your opinion of Tebows greatness. His trolling as you call it, will have much more impact on the team, than yours. You see he is one of the men that will decide Tebows fate, and you are nobody. . . What will you do if they dump Tebow? Or do you refuse to think about a future without your man?

Archer81
11-25-2011, 10:42 PM
If Tebow continues to win...he is the guy. Lot of pressure to put on a raw guy, but such is life.


:Broncos:

Wes Mantooth
11-25-2011, 10:44 PM
I hope Tebow figures out how to throw the ball soon. It would really make the decision making in the front office harder.

Shananahan
11-25-2011, 10:44 PM
Won't happen... when opinions are strong, people are going to find a means of expressing them. The key is making an effort to remain civil while still disagreeing with someone else.
Oh, right. Thanks, mom!

Turd_Ferguson
11-25-2011, 10:44 PM
If Tebow continues to win...he is the guy. Lot of pressure to put on a raw guy, but such is life.


:Broncos:

You mean if the Broncos continue to win with Tebow at QB?

Archer81
11-25-2011, 10:48 PM
You mean if the Broncos continue to win with Tebow at QB?


Wins (wrongly or correctly) are attributed to QB's. And don't correct me for the sole purpose of starting shenanigans. You know what I meant.


:Broncos:

Archer81
11-25-2011, 10:48 PM
I hope Tebow figures out how to throw the ball soon. It would really make the decision making in the front office harder.


It would help if WR's would make a catch once and awhile, too.


:Broncos:

Turd_Ferguson
11-25-2011, 10:51 PM
It would help if WR's would make a catch once and awhile, too.


:Broncos:

Decker is tied for 4th in the league for receiving TDs. Sorry he is so terrible.

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 10:52 PM
Where is this venomous media?

http://www.sportressofblogitude.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/merrill-hoge.jpg

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/129/363/78601332_crop_340x234.jpg?1296961199

http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2009/11/stephenasmith.jpg

http://mediamrs.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Kordell-Stewart.jpg

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2009/09/mark_schlareth_goatee_fraud_phixr2.png

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2010/0816/20100816_083033_broncosmailbag.jpg

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2010/0610/20100610__alfred_williams~p1_200.jpg

Turd_Ferguson
11-25-2011, 10:54 PM
Wins (wrongly or correctly) are attributed to QB's. And don't correct me for the sole purpose of starting shenanigans. You know what I meant.


:Broncos:

Either way... How many games did Cassel win the year Brady was out? Would you want Cassel as your franchise QB? Winning games doesn't mean Tebow is the guy they should stick with.

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 10:54 PM
Hmm well its too bad that you feel that way. You see John Elway doesn't appear to share your opinion of Tebows greatness. His trolling as you call it, will have much more impact on the team, than yours. You see he is one of the men that will decide Tebows fate, and you are nobody. . . What will you do if they dump Tebow? Or do you refuse to think about a future without your man?

Elway is being unwise with the way that he is choosing to play the media.

Unless he's just doing this to drive interest and he and Tebow are having a chuckle in the office, he's making unwise choices.

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 10:56 PM
Decker is tied for 4th in the league for receiving TDs. Sorry he is so terrible.

Decker dropped two third down conversions last week.

We're not sold on him as the starter for next season. He needs to show us that he can convert a third down.

Blueflame
11-25-2011, 10:59 PM
Sure, but he should understand the results of a person speaking on behalf of team management making those kinds of non-supportive statements about a player who has delivered the most fun Broncos football in years.

Tebow has been a huge part of making Broncos football fun again. Elway's statements undercut that fun and take it away from some people. Aware of the consequences of his words or not, he is trolling those people. Thats not good management.

And like it or not, there are people who unlike you and I didn't get to experience Elway as a player. They arent giving him carte blanche. Imagine that Broncos management constantly talked about trading Elway when he was instilling hope in the fans with his early comeback victories...it would have turned the fanbase off. Heck, I lived in Oklahoma during that time and we got Broncos games from time to time. Elway made me a football fan. He made me a Broncos fan. There are alot of young Tebow fans out there who are experiencing the same thing. Theres absolutely NOTHING wrong with that. Nothing at all. Hopefully they become Broncos fans for life like I did.

Elway needs to swallow his pride here and just be the better man. He needs to rise above his pride and do the best thing for the franchise, and thats being respectful of the players on the field and the team and getting out of their way.

Some people are going to complain no matter what Elway says or doesn't say. If he makes any remarks then hidden meanings are searched for... and if he's not "sufficiently positive" or "supportive enough" he's criticized. If he did bend over and lick Tebow's cleats, then they dare not take a QB next April or he'd be reamed for lying. I, for one, respect him for being honest when a lie would make things so much easier for him now.

As for the young fans who might someday gain some loyalty to the Broncos... you don't earn respect or acceptance from other fans by coming into the discussion and crapping on team icons. That tactic is assured to alienate others... and it will result in a backlash against the single player they do support.

bombay
11-25-2011, 11:00 PM
Plenty of examples of what Tebow is dealing with in his followers right here.

It's sad for him.

Turd_Ferguson
11-25-2011, 11:01 PM
Decker dropped two third down conversions last week.

We're not sold on him as the starter for next season. He needs to show us that he can convert a third down.

Well he is 4 - 1 in his last 5 starts, he just wins doesnt matter if its ugly or not. Besides he had like 6 good blocks for Tebow so they just need to change the offense to take advantage of his strengths... Not to mention he inspires the Defense with he acrobatic catches. (sarcasm)

theAPAOps5
11-25-2011, 11:01 PM
Some people are going to complain no matter what Elway says or doesn't say. If he makes any remarks then hidden meanings are searched for... and if he's not "sufficiently positive" or "supportive enough" he's criticized. If he did bend over and lick Tebow's cleats, then they dare not take a QB next April or he'd be reamed for lying. I, for one, respect him for being honest when a lie would make things so much easier for him now.

As for the young fans who might someday gain some loyalty to the Broncos... you don't earn respect or acceptance from other fans by coming into the discussion and crapping on team icons. That tactic is assured to alienate others... and it will result in a backlash against the single player they do support.

Yeah but I wouldn't call EpicTebowFluffer a young fan. He has been around a while and he is crapping all over a team icon.

It is crazy and sad at the same time.

JDB7821
11-25-2011, 11:05 PM
I feel bad for Elway. I didn't follow the Broncos during his run and the only thing I really remember of him is beating us in the Super Bowl when I was 11, but it's ridiculous to see how some "fans" have turned against him. There's no way I would have a single bad thing to say about Elway after doing what he did for my team. Is he well-versed in public relations? He doesn't seem to be. I give him credit for being honest (and obvious) in the media, but it obviously rubs Tebow fans the wrong way. He'd do best to keep a lower profile until the offseason, although it's not really his fault.

I love Tebow and hope he does become a better passer and the quarterback of the Broncos for the next 12 years, but there's no way it's going to happen if he doesn't do exactly like Elway is calling it. These "fans" need to give Elway a break, he knows what he's doing far more than either Tebow or his crazed following.

Blueflame
11-25-2011, 11:05 PM
Yeah but I wouldn't call EpicTebowFluffer a young fan. He has been around a while and he is crapping all over a team icon.

It is crazy and sad at the same time.

Anyone... and I do mean anyone... disses John Elway and they're on my bad side. Sorry but that's how it is. :)

bombay
11-25-2011, 11:06 PM
Yeah but I wouldn't call EpicTebowFluffer a young fan. He has been around a while and he is crapping all over a team icon.

It is crazy and sad at the same time.

It would be nice if people would refrain from quoting it.

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 11:06 PM
Some people are going to complain no matter what Elway says or doesn't say. If he makes any remarks then hidden meanings are searched for... and if he's not "sufficiently positive" or "supportive enough" he's criticized. If he did bend over and lick Tebow's cleats, then they dare not take a QB next April or he'd be reamed for lying. I, for one, respect him for being honest when a lie would make things so much easier for him now.

As for the young fans who might someday gain some loyalty to the Broncos... you don't earn respect or acceptance from other fans by coming into the discussion and crapping on team icons. That tactic is assured to alienate others... and it will result in a backlash against the single player they do support.

Elway is no longer a player. It has been almost 15 years since Elway last laced them up. That means that there are 20-year olds who never really saw the guy play. Those people are college sophomores. That age demographic are exactly the type of people who frequent twitter, facebook, and internet forums. They arent going to care much about who John Elway is. Heck, we havent encouraged the respect of elders in our society since the 1950s. Its only natural that they view Elway's generation as out of touch.

Elway is the guy who needs to win them over, not the other way around. Elway is running a business. The business is to attract patrons.

theAPAOps5
11-25-2011, 11:08 PM
Anyone... and I do mean anyone... disses John Elway and they're on my bad side. Sorry but that's how it is. :)

I don't always agree with you but this I agree 100%. It is pathetic, the crap being said to and about him because he is being honest and diligent in his job.

That said with his new position there can be criticism. There is a difference between being critical and being a douche.

Many of the Tebow fanatics have douche down pat.

theAPAOps5
11-25-2011, 11:09 PM
It would be nice if people would refrain from quoting it.

Duly noted and I will not quote the troll in the future out of respect to the members here who have the troll on ignore.

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 11:10 PM
Many of the Tebow fanatics have douche down pat.

And their counterparts too.

Inkana7
11-25-2011, 11:10 PM
http://www.sportressofblogitude.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/merrill-hoge.jpg

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/129/363/78601332_crop_340x234.jpg?1296961199

http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2009/11/stephenasmith.jpg

http://mediamrs.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Kordell-Stewart.jpg

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2009/09/mark_schlareth_goatee_fraud_phixr2.png

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2010/0816/20100816_083033_broncosmailbag.jpg

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2010/0610/20100610__alfred_williams~p1_200.jpg

7 people, cool. Add that to the 2 here and you can almost fill up your two hands.

theAPAOps5
11-25-2011, 11:11 PM
And their counterparts too.

Just speaking on your simpleton level so you understand.

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 11:13 PM
7 people, cool. Add that to the 2 here and you can almost fill up your two hands.

That's two more than you provided.

Well, your examples could have been more useful given that the fact that you used google to sort through your relevant articles. Google posts the most-clicked articles. So those that you chose were all the most popular...and given the nature of Tebow, they were popular because they were positive.

Turd_Ferguson
11-25-2011, 11:14 PM
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2009/09/mark_schlareth_goatee_fraud_phixr2.png


Its like schlereth is telling you to kiss his a$$

Blueflame
11-25-2011, 11:15 PM
Elway is no longer a player. It has been almost 15 years since Elway last laced them up. That means that there are 20-year olds who never really saw the guy play. Those people are college sophomores. That age demographic are exactly the type of people who frequent twitter, facebook, and internet forums. They arent going to care much about who John Elway is. Heck, we havent encouraged the respect of elders in our society since the 1950s. Its only natural that they view Elway's generation as out of touch.

Elway is the guy who needs to win them over, not the other way around. Elway is running a business. The business is to attract patrons.

Doesn't matter. He was doing what he thought was best for the Broncos back then and he's doing what he thinks is best for the Broncos now.

When I first became a Bronco fan, one of the first things I wanted to do was learn more about the team's history. Those who don't have enough respect for the team's history to do that... or at least enough respect to refrain from saying stuff like what was posted on Elway's twitter page... don't really want to be a part of the Broncos fanbase and are not likely to ever truly fit in.

If you meet someone new and are invited to their house for dinner... and the first thing you do is walk into their living room and take a steaming dump on their couch, what do you suppose your odds are of being invited back? Or even continuing the friendship? That's essentially what the "fans" who posted on Elway's twitter page did to the Broncos fanbase.

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 11:15 PM
Just speaking on your simpleton level so you understand.

I'm the simpleton? Hilarious!

Okay, man.

You're doing a bang up job. Keep on raising the level of discussion with personal attacks. Good work. ^5

theAPAOps5
11-25-2011, 11:17 PM
I'm the simpleton? Hilarious!

Okay, man.

You're doing a bang up job. Keep on raising the level of discussion with personal attacks. Good work. ^5

Only to those who deserve it, namely you. If it were a respected poster you might have a point.

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 11:23 PM
Doesn't matter. He was doing what he thought was best for the Broncos back then and he's doing what he thinks is best for the Broncos now

And you don't see the irony in his stance on Tebow given that his own first 8 games were a struggle?

When I first became a Bronco fan, one of the first things I wanted to do was learn more about the team's history. Those who don't have enough respect for the team's history to do that... or at least enough respect to refrain from saying stuff like what was posted on Elway's twitter page... don't really want to be a part of the Broncos fanbase and are not likely to ever truly fit in.

Thats not true, Blueflame. The cultural makeup of any group of people changes. It changes even faster in the case of specialized cultures like NFL team fanbases. It literally turns over with every major change...bad or good. The nature of Broncos fans remained relatively stable during the Elway years. It has changed many times since along with the many small eras that have appeared and passed on.

The Tebow change has brought another cultural shift. It is evidently too big for Elway to handle because he has been unwise in dealing with it. He has taken it on rather than to use it to his and the franchises advantage. Not wise, not good PR.

If you meet someone new and are invited to their house for dinner... and the first thing you do is walk into their living room and take a steaming dump on their couch, what do you suppose your odds are of being invited back? Or even continuing the friendship? That's essentially what the "fans" who posted on Elway's twitter page did to the Broncos fanbase.

Fans arent invited into any fanbase. They choose it. They choose to follow the team. Many of them (like me or anyone outside of Colorado really) choose the Broncos and go against the grain.

Its Elway's job (literally...he gets paid to do this) to welcome them, not to tick them off.

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 11:24 PM
Only to those who deserve it, namely you. If it were a respected poster you might have a point.

Thanks, angrytroll.

Keep on trollin', bro.

theAPAOps5
11-25-2011, 11:31 PM
Thanks, angrytroll.

Keep on trollin', bro.

You speak from experience. Seems to me when you throw your fits you go to the fall back of troll.

Take a look in the mirror.

yerner
11-25-2011, 11:31 PM
What's Tebow's 3rd down percentage?

Blueflame
11-25-2011, 11:32 PM
Where we're disagreeing is identifying the problem. To me the problem is incivility on the part of a few outrageously-rude Tebow fans. So they don't like it that Elway isn't 100% positive and glowing in every single comment he makes about Tebow. That's too bad; it's not justification for posting rude remarks like they chose to do. What they did will negatively... not positively... influence their hero's boss. It's downright stupid on their part.

Elway is not paid to be a "Tebow-butt-kisser" or a cheerleader.

cabronco
11-25-2011, 11:32 PM
Kordell Stewart ? He has a talk show, or just spewing out his take..Why would anyone listen to that guy. Even Romanowski has gave him the face palm, 3 in fact. :)

Rolandftw
11-25-2011, 11:33 PM
::) Agamemon, Alpha Sierra and Macgruder all joined shortly after Tebow was drafted. I suspect one or both wrote the above. They're a bunch of idiots who worship everything Tebow does and blame everything he doesn't on everyone but him. I want Tebow to succeed, he's an easy player to root for, but when I read comments like these, I almost hope we trade him so we don't have to put up with these idiots.

I don't think it's fair to lump Agamemon in with the other two. While I rarely agree with him on anything, he generally supports his views better then the copy and pasting of AS or the inane "I'm the original suffering Tebow fan. everyone else should be exiled from the fanbase via a witchhunt of witches" rants of McGruder.

Don't think there's anything wrong with fans of Tebow and the Gators, to become fans of the Broncos. After all, a lot of fans today became fans because of Elway, or another player that appealed to them for whatever reason.

But fans of Tebow that call out other Bronco fans, because they don't quite believe in the kid are not exactly making friends. Likewise, fans that are bashing Elway via twitter are not representing Tebow particularly well.

I've said before that it's not Tebow as much as the fact that he has the most annoying fanbase in the NFL.

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 11:54 PM
You speak from experience. Seems to me when you throw your fits you go to the fall back of troll.

Take a look in the mirror.

I'm having a conversation here. You are interrupting by trolling with a bunch of namecalling, making you a troll. Pretty simple really.

I don't know if you're trying to make yourself look bad or what, but you're doing a good job at it.

theAPAOps5
11-25-2011, 11:58 PM
I'm having a conversation here. You are interrupting by trolling with a bunch of namecalling, making you a troll. Pretty simple really.

I don't know if you're trying to make yourself look bad or what, but you're doing a good job at it.

Again speaking from experience aren't you.........


Keep throwing these fits little buddy, it is cute.

epicSocialism4tw
11-25-2011, 11:59 PM
Where we're disagreeing is identifying the problem. To me the problem is incivility on the part of a few outrageously-rude Tebow fans. So they don't like it that Elway isn't 100% positive and glowing in every single comment he makes about Tebow. That's too bad; it's not justification for posting rude remarks like they chose to do. What they did will negatively... not positively... influence their hero's boss. It's downright stupid on their part.

Elway is not paid to be a "Tebow-butt-kisser" or a cheerleader.

Elway is interjecting himself into the public conversation. He knows that what he says ends up on TV, in the radio, and in print media.

He shouldn't be so unwise about the way that he goes about it. He is after all the trained professional. He should be above the fray and responsible about what he says...regardless of his opinion.

His opinion isn't the only one that matters in Denver. He's basically Joe Ellis' assistant. Ellis is Bowlen's joystick. Bowlen wants Tebow and he has made that clear. Elway should be smarter than to continue to air their differences in public.

What is striking is that the print media and a contingent of hater Broncos fans continue to blame people for negative reaction to Elway's irresponsible commentary. Elway needs to be above the fray, not the guy who stirs up the fights.

epicSocialism4tw
11-26-2011, 12:00 AM
Again speaking from experience aren't you.........


Keep throwing these fits little buddy, it is cute.

You're really bringin' the heavy-hitters from the 12-year old peanut gallery tonight, man! Mad props. Bieber would be stoked, bro.

theAPAOps5
11-26-2011, 12:03 AM
You're really bringin' the heavy-hitters from the 12-year old peanut gallery tonight, man! Mad props. Bieber would be stoked, bro.

Got you all upset don't I, little Buddy. Here is another fit. I don't even have to search you are just lining them up.

I like the name little buddy, it fits. You are kind of like my puppet.

Blueflame
11-26-2011, 12:10 AM
It isn't Elway who is out of line; it's the "looking for any excuse to be outraged" Tebow fans. And they need to realize that the man they just insulted... is among the small group of people (about 3) who holds their hero's future in his hands. Again... insulting any one of Tebow's bosses.. is stupid beyond belief. If they truly want him to be the QBOTF of the Denver Broncos, then they need to STFU and let him earn the job on the football field.

epicSocialism4tw
11-26-2011, 12:12 AM
It isn't Elway who is out of line; it's the "looking for any excuse to be outraged" Tebow fans. And they need to realize that the man they just insulted... is among the small group of people (about 3) who holds their hero's future in his hands. Again... insulting any one of Tebow's bosses.. is stupid beyond belief. If they truly want him to be the QBOTF of the Denver Broncos, then they need to STFU and let him earn the job on the football field.

He's 4-1 and is having a much better first 8 games than Elway did.

That pretty much speaks for itself.

Elway should be above the fray instead of stirring the pot. Period. He's in a position of management, and he's acting like he's talking in the bar to people in the press. Not very smart.

epicSocialism4tw
11-26-2011, 12:13 AM
Got you all upset don't I, little Buddy. Here is another fit. I don't even have to search you are just lining them up.

I like the name little buddy, it fits. You are kind of like my puppet.

Ooh! I have one!

Check dis, holmes: I pull for Tim Tebow and the Denver Broncos and want them to make the playoffs for the first time since 2005-2006! Crazy, right!

Go!

Fedaykin
11-26-2011, 12:15 AM
You're really bringin' the heavy-hitters from the 12-year old peanut gallery tonight, man! Mad props. Bieber would be stoked, bro.

LMAO.

You presuming to lecture _anyone_ on behaving maturely is about the silliest thing I've seen for weeks.

Blueflame
11-26-2011, 12:21 AM
Blaming a man for being personally attacked for purely-business decisions... is ludicrous.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-26-2011, 12:22 AM
It isn't Elway who is out of line; it's the "looking for any excuse to be outraged" Tebow fans. And they need to realize that the man they just insulted... is among the small group of people (about 3) who holds their hero's future in his hands. Again... insulting any one of Tebow's bosses.. is stupid beyond belief. If they truly want him to be the QBOTF of the Denver Broncos, then they need to STFU and let him earn the job on the football field.

Lol pipe down because they might just make a decision out of spite. Good thing they don't moderate the forum.

epicSocialism4tw
11-26-2011, 12:23 AM
Blaming a man for being personally attacked for purely-business decisions... is ludicrous.

These aren't business decisions...they're media opinions.

His business decisions have been questionable, but his public relations skills have been flat-out noobish.

stopgap
11-26-2011, 12:25 AM
No good can ever come from Twitter.

9 pages of hate.

Blueflame
11-26-2011, 12:28 AM
Right. According to you, then, it's Elway's fault that Tebow's fans decide go online and behave like spoiled brats, personally attacking him. No responsibility can be assigned to the ones who typed those messages. ::)

Here's a clue for both you and Doc Bronc... EFX are gonna do what they're gonna do regardless of what a few malcontents post in cyberspace. And Tebow will either do things EFX's way or they're going to find someone who will.

We're not gonna agree on this. :)

Dr. Broncenstein
11-26-2011, 12:30 AM
These aren't business decisions...they're media opinions.

His business decisions have been questionable, but his public relations skills have been flat-out noobish.

Also he's a businessman not a schoolgirl. Dude played football in places like Oakland and Philadelphia, but some anonymous nut an twitter might influence his decision? Seriously?

Dr. Broncenstein
11-26-2011, 12:32 AM
I'm not on twitter so you can stop fantacising that I'm twittering insults to @ my childhood hero.

theAPAOps5
11-26-2011, 12:34 AM
Ooh! I have one!

Check dis, holmes: I pull for Tim Tebow and the Denver Broncos and want them to make the playoffs for the first time since 2005-2006! Crazy, right!

Go!

Should have said this from the start and stuck with it, little buddy.

Blueflame
11-26-2011, 12:36 AM
I'm not on twitter so you can stop fantacising that I'm twittering insults to @ my childhood hero.

I'm guessing this might be aimed at me? ??? Uh... I never once said or suggested that you even "might have been" the author of any of those personal attacks on Elway, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

epicSocialism4tw
11-26-2011, 12:38 AM
Right. According to you, then, it's Elway's fault that Tebow's fans decide go online and behave like spoiled brats, personally attacking him. No responsibility can be assigned to the ones who typed those messages. ::)

Here's a clue for both you and Doc Bronc... EFX are gonna do what they're gonna do regardless of what a few malcontents post in cyberspace. And Tebow will either do things EFX's way or they're going to find someone who will.

We're not gonna agree on this. :)

Elway could have saved people like Kaylore who whine and flail about because they dont like fan reaction some trouble...he could have simply kept that part of his opinion to himself. This crap never would have been the story. Elway should have turned the focus to trying to win the division. He should have been diplomatic. That is, after all, his job. Is there any other PR job where being diplomatic is not important?

This stuff is Elway's fault. He has to be above the fray. Maybe he should consult with Tebow on how to do that.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-26-2011, 12:39 AM
It's funny how I drew that conclusion after having my handle mixed into the same paragraph with cyberspace malcontent.

epicSocialism4tw
11-26-2011, 12:40 AM
Should have said this from the start and stuck with it, little buddy.

Time Teboow is teh Bronkos QB! Can you beleev it? Hez wurse tehn Jeof Gorege!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!

Blueflame
11-26-2011, 12:41 AM
Well, I'm with Kaylore on this. Nothing Elway's said has justified the rancor that was posted and Tebow's fans are simply way over the top with their remarks. They're not making friends or influencing anyone that way.

Blueflame
11-26-2011, 12:43 AM
It's funny how I drew that conclusion after having my handle mixed into the same paragraph with cyberspace malcontent.

Seems pretty clear that the "malcontents" I was referring to were the ones who reamed Elway a new one on his twitter page. Oh, well. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

epicSocialism4tw
11-26-2011, 12:44 AM
Also he's a businessman not a schoolgirl. Dude played football in places like Oakland and Philadelphia, but some anonymous nut an twitter might influence his decision? Seriously?

We're so concerned about his state of mental health and wellbeing after people raided and criticized him on twitter. We're just being sensitive to the inner soft hearty heart love heart heart of the Duke.

He was never criticized after we got dropped in that superbowl to the left coast marauders 55-10 and he played like he wasn't wearing any pants for the whole game.

He wasn't tough enough to wear that criticism on his sleeve and keep plugging away until he left on top. ;D

Dr. Broncenstein
11-26-2011, 12:45 AM
Well, I'm with Kaylore on this. Nothing Elway's said has justified the rancor that was posted and Tebow's fans are simply way over the top with their remarks. They're not making friends or influencing anyone that way.

Prove those remarks aren't coming from an equally unhinged person who actually wants Tebow gone. Following the logic that nutbar tweets can influence their decision making, wouldn't that be a perfect plan?

epicSocialism4tw
11-26-2011, 12:46 AM
Well, I'm with Kaylore on this. Nothing Elway's said has justified the rancor that was posted and Tebow's fans are simply way over the top with their remarks. They're not making friends or influencing anyone that way.

As it seems by his twitter account, Elway isn't doing much friend-making or influencing either. ;D

theAPAOps5
11-26-2011, 12:47 AM
Time Teboow is teh Bronkos QB! Can you beleev it? Hez wurse tehn Jeof Gorege!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!

Not good at following instructions, are we little buddy?

Is there anything you are good at?

HAT
11-26-2011, 12:48 AM
This stuff is Elway's fault. He has to be above the fray. Maybe he should consult with Tebow on how to do that.

Keep it up Johnny!!!

Broncos are ****ing rollllling since my boy Elwayz starting making fun of the Teebz.

epicSocialism4tw
11-26-2011, 12:49 AM
Prove those remarks aren't coming from an equally unhinged person who actually wants Tebow gone. Following the logic that nutbar tweets can influence their decision making, wouldn't that be a perfect plan?

They're probably all TailgateCrazy and Spider accounts. Hilarious!

theAPAOps5
11-26-2011, 12:50 AM
As it seems by his twitter account, Elway isn't doing much friend-making or influencing either. ;D

Why, because a bunch of your fellow lunatics are attacking him for being honest? You think he isn't making friends?

epicSocialism4tw
11-26-2011, 12:50 AM
Keep it up Johnny!!!

Broncos are ****ing rollllling since my boy Elwayz starting making fun of the Teebz.

Are you the guy who came up with the theory that John is just superstitious and just ritualizing this media spiel?

Blueflame
11-26-2011, 12:50 AM
Prove those remarks aren't coming from an equally unhinged person who actually wants Tebow gone. Following the logic that nutbar tweets can influence their decision making, wouldn't that be a perfect plan?

Huh? I'm supposed to somehow find out the names of the people who made those posts...and investigate them in order to "prove" they're not coming from a nutcase whose true motivation is to accomplish the opposite? ??? That's about as reasonable as Epic's contention that someone who refers to John Elway as a "horse faced ass"... is likely to ever become a real, genuine Broncos fan.

SMH.

epicSocialism4tw
11-26-2011, 12:51 AM
Why, because a bunch of your fellow lunatics are attacking him for being honest? You think he isn't making friends?

"My fellow lunatics"?

Forgive me for rooting for the Broncos to make the playoffs. Hilarious!

theAPAOps5
11-26-2011, 12:52 AM
"My fellow lunatics"?

Forgive me for rooting for the Broncos to make the playoffs. Hilarious!

Oh so trashing Elway is rooting for the playoffs. Man little buddy you are a sick person.

Blueflame
11-26-2011, 12:52 AM
As it seems by his twitter account, Elway isn't doing much friend-making or influencing either. ;D

I'm in John's corner... and highly doubt that I'm the only one. :wave:

Dr. Broncenstein
11-26-2011, 12:52 AM
I'd love to see what Andy Reid's twitter stream would look like. I wonder why he isn't on twitter giving the Eagles fans a cyberspace touchpoint.

HAT
11-26-2011, 12:54 AM
Are you the guy who came up with the theory that John is just superstitious and just ritualizing this media spiel?

Probably not. I have no idea what you just typed......As ****ing always.

All I know is that Elway is doing a masterful job at GM'ing Tebow and the Broncos to wins.

epicSocialism4tw
11-26-2011, 12:55 AM
I'm in John's corner... and highly doubt that I'm the only one. :wave:

Ah, so there are corners? And you choose one?

I like the idea that there are events that you evaluate independently, and that the participants of said events are evaluated based on the events and their roles in them.

If there are corners, then there are walls. I don't like being caged that way.