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titan
11-23-2011, 02:10 PM
Orton claimed by the Chiefs, according to Shefter

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7274326/kansas-city-chiefs-claim-kyle-orton-waivers-source-says

Doggcow
11-23-2011, 02:11 PM
THIS IS ALL A PLAN FOR ORTON TO BEAT TEBOWWWW SO ELWAY CAN TRADE TEBOWWWW (He has 4 w's at the end of his name, like our record)

srphoenix
11-23-2011, 02:12 PM
lulz, this will only get more entertaining

may even have to take boob off of ignore to see him defend this one.

bendog
11-23-2011, 02:12 PM
oh thank you, God. lol

That One Guy
11-23-2011, 02:12 PM
Hmm... it just got interesting.

SimonFletcher73
11-23-2011, 02:13 PM
Doubt he makes it to week 17.

TheReverend
11-23-2011, 02:14 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

BroncoBeavis
11-23-2011, 02:14 PM
Pure awesomeness

srphoenix
11-23-2011, 02:14 PM
Doubt he makes it to week 17.

if he does, he won't make it past it

Dedhed
11-23-2011, 02:14 PM
Lulz.

vonqkilla
11-23-2011, 02:15 PM
Hopefully he stays there. Perfect landing spot.

Carmelo15
11-23-2011, 02:15 PM
Bwahhahahahaha!!!!!!

Endy
11-23-2011, 02:15 PM
As bad as Orton is, he is still better than Cassel. And he's much better than Palko.

Dedhed
11-23-2011, 02:16 PM
Hopefully he stays there. Perfect landing spot.

QBOTF! Best Chance to Win!

crush17
11-23-2011, 02:16 PM
Duh.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-23-2011, 02:17 PM
I'm pleased. We need a stopgap.

cmhargrove
11-23-2011, 02:17 PM
Dwayne Bowe just got a boner...

SimonFletcher73
11-23-2011, 02:18 PM
We better go out and get a player or two with that $2.5 in savings.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-23-2011, 02:18 PM
I was really hoping to see Orton play behind that Chicago line in the Martz offense, just to watch the hilarity... but this is the second best scenario.

tsiguy96
11-23-2011, 02:19 PM
the cowboys and bears made a claim as well

Turd_Ferguson
11-23-2011, 02:21 PM
Best Day EVER!

Gort
11-23-2011, 02:23 PM
Pure awesomeness

:)

Bob's your Information Minister
11-23-2011, 02:24 PM
"Yes Josh...we have BOTH Matt Cassel and Kyle Orton...COME ON OVER!!"

http://www.nflpassers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/joshmcdaniels4.jpg

Turd_Ferguson
11-23-2011, 02:24 PM
I'm pleased. We need a stopgap.

You and every Bronco Raider and Charger fan you retard.

Jason in LA
11-23-2011, 02:25 PM
So... Does Orton give the Chiefs the best chance to win? ;D

bendog
11-23-2011, 02:25 PM
Imagine the noise here if the chorfs win at the diaphram.

DenverBroncosJM
11-23-2011, 02:26 PM
So the Cheefs are now in last place and they are out 2.5 million.

Sounds like a really bad vegas trip

Gort
11-23-2011, 02:26 PM
"Yes Josh...we have BOTH Matt Cassel and Kyle Orton...COME ON OVER!!"

http://www.nflpassers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/joshmcdaniels4.jpg

most days you suck. some days you suck alot. today you suck at a level heretofore only Raiders fans have known.

the Chefs claimed Orton. Orton won't go to KC. you can't even get our garbage when you ask politely!

:D

DenverBroncosJM
11-23-2011, 02:27 PM
Im sure with the strong rushing attack KC has Orton will do fine....



HAHHAHAHA

Gort
11-23-2011, 02:28 PM
I was really hoping to see Orton play behind that Chicago line in the Martz offense, just to watch the hilarity... but this is the second best scenario.

curiously, i had a premonition this morning of Orton in a Chefs uniform with the name "Orton" clearly on the back, even though everyone was saying the Bears were going to take him.

what's really funny is that he said yesterday he won't go to KC and they still pulled him off waivers.

R8R H8R
11-23-2011, 02:28 PM
I'm pleased. We need a stopgap.

You need more than that.

Williams
11-23-2011, 02:28 PM
Poor Kyle. :(

On the bright side though, the neckbeard and mullet together will be legendary.

Rohirrim
11-23-2011, 02:29 PM
All part of Elway's master plan...

Gort
11-23-2011, 02:29 PM
Poor Kyle. :(

On the bright side though, the neckbeard and mullet together will be legendary.

mulletbeard?

necklet?

???

bendog
11-23-2011, 02:29 PM
I'm pleased. We need a stopgap.

He's more of a doorstop, but enjoy

vonqkilla
11-23-2011, 02:30 PM
Kyle in a camaro, a sixer of prb riding shotgun, hellya, swording time.

Ronnie Tsunami
11-23-2011, 02:36 PM
Can you imagine? Von breaking the rookie sack record against Pocket Sloth?

http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/small/000/103/740/Me%20Gusta.png?1318992465

And then celebrating by reviving the dymeboogie?

broncocalijohn
11-23-2011, 02:39 PM
We better go out and get a player or two with that $2.5 in savings.

I beleive the new CBA states teams have to spend that money in that season or in our case, next season. Broncos save $2.5 million is good and hope it doesn't matter if Orton goes to KC and Quinn can handle backup duties.

DomCasual
11-23-2011, 02:42 PM
They're saying on ChesPlanet that 610AM in KC is reporting that the Chiefs are working on extending Orton's contract.

Please, let that be right!

Ronnie Tsunami
11-23-2011, 02:44 PM
I'm pleased. We need a stopgap.

Stop gaps do not cost $2.6 million dollars.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-23-2011, 02:45 PM
Stop gaps do not cost $2.6 million dollars.

Who cares. We have more cap space than god.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-23-2011, 02:45 PM
They're saying on ChesPlanet that 610AM in KC is reporting that the Chiefs are working on extending Orton's contract.

Please, let that be right!

You do realize he's not going to be a starter in KC, right?

They're not signing this guy to lead us to the Super Bowl.

DomCasual
11-23-2011, 02:46 PM
More ChefsPlanet fun:

Best part of this is that we just stuck it to the Donkos. They could have kept him and gotten a compensatory pick for him in the draft. Instead, they don't get squat, we will get an extra pick. Why all the hate on this move. It means nothing after this season.

LOL

broncosteven
11-23-2011, 02:47 PM
I'm pleased. We need a stopgap.

I find it fitting that the 2 QB's who F'ed up our franchise over the last 2 years are on the same team and SUCKING.

DomCasual
11-23-2011, 02:49 PM
You do realize he's not going to be a starter in KC, right?

They're not signing this guy to lead us to the Super Bowl.

There's no way he signs an extension if he doesn't have assurances that he will at least compete for the job. In his mind, he's a starter.

BroncoBeavis
11-23-2011, 02:52 PM
So I wonder why the Pokes put a claim on him. Was that an attempt at a Bears c0ckblock? (for the wildcard?)

Liquid Courage
11-23-2011, 02:53 PM
VonDoom have to be just giddy with this news...this would be like fish in a barrel with his mobility (or lack thereof)

Popps
11-23-2011, 02:53 PM
http://www.searchamelia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/vince-lombardi-trophy.jpg

gyldenlove
11-23-2011, 02:54 PM
So I wonder why the Pokes put a claim on him. Was that an attempt at a Bears c0ckblock? (for the wildcard?)

I think Haley knows he might not survive a 4-12 season and the rate Palko was throwing picks at that was a real possibility, he had to at least try something.

Liquid Courage
11-23-2011, 02:54 PM
Can you imagine? Von breaking the rookie sack record against Pocket Sloth?

http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/small/000/103/740/Me%20Gusta.png?1318992465

And then celebrating by reviving the dymeboogie?

"Pocket Sloth" . . . . LOVE it!! :spit:

BroncoBeavis
11-23-2011, 02:55 PM
I think Haley knows he might not survive a 4-12 season and the rate Palko was throwing picks at that was a real possibility, he had to at least try something.

Sorry, probably got too cute, but I meant the Cowboys putting in a claim.

Popps
11-23-2011, 02:57 PM
"Well good for him. Congratulations to him," Tebow said after being told Orton was claimed by Kansas City. "That'll be fun to play him the last game of the year."

Pony Boy
11-23-2011, 02:57 PM
"Yes Josh...we have BOTH Matt Cassel and Kyle Orton...COME ON OVER!!"

http://www.nflpassers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/joshmcdaniels4.jpg

Bob made a funny ........

jhns
11-23-2011, 02:59 PM
So we gave KC our backup QB for nothing? Well played front office...

TheReverend
11-23-2011, 03:01 PM
Posted this in the other thread:

In hindsight, this move scares me if they put DJ in on offense.

Orton does have significant experience throwing TDs to him.

Gort
11-23-2011, 03:03 PM
http://mahou.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/sloth.jpg

+

http://www.mapkernow.com/nfl-football-helmets/kansas-city-chiefs-authentic-pro-line-full-size-riddell-helmet.jpg

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http://s2.hubimg.com/u/1800357_f260.jpg

gyldenlove
11-23-2011, 03:04 PM
Sorry, probably got too cute, but I meant the Cowboys putting in a claim.

Why not? they have no backup and we all know Romo can get a little weird.

RMT
11-23-2011, 03:04 PM
curiously, i had a premonition this morning of Orton in a Chefs uniform with the name "Orton" clearly on the back, even though everyone was saying the Bears were going to take him.

what's really funny is that he said yesterday he won't go to KC and they still pulled him off waivers.

And if Orton does not report within 5 days, the Chiefs can put him on the non-injury/failure to report list and he forfeits the rest of his 2011 salary and may have to return a prorated portion of his signing bonus. Do you think he's that stupid?

Ronnie Tsunami
11-23-2011, 03:04 PM
So we gave KC our backup QB for nothing? Well played front office...

1. He wouldn't have played another snap this year

2. We are way past the trade deadline

3. He wouldn't have re-signed in FA

4. We just saved $2.6 million dollars.

I think you need to be patting the front office on the back.

Rulon Velvet Jones
11-23-2011, 03:05 PM
Lulz.

Gort
11-23-2011, 03:06 PM
And if Orton does not report within 5 days, the Chiefs can put him on the non-injury/failure to report list and he forfeits the rest of his 2011 salary and may have to return a prorated portion of his signing bonus. Do you think he's that stupid?

who knows? Plummer was that stupid.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-23-2011, 03:07 PM
There's no way he signs an extension if he doesn't have assurances that he will at least compete for the job. In his mind, he's a starter.

Perhaps next year, as a stop gap.

He's not a long-term starter.

DomCasual
11-23-2011, 03:08 PM
So, can anyone clarify? If we would have kept Orton, would we have gotten a compensatory pick when he signed somewhere in the offseason?

ICON
11-23-2011, 03:08 PM
.I hope the Chiefs see this as a fix. I hope they dont draft a QB in Rd. 1.

oubronco
11-23-2011, 03:09 PM
They pick him up even after he said he wouldn't report if they did? This is classic LOL

DomCasual
11-23-2011, 03:10 PM
Perhaps next year, as a stop gap.

He's not a long-term starter.

Yeah - well, good luck with that.

22 games with Orton on your roster is like 154 games without him. Orton makes fans age in dog years.

jhns
11-23-2011, 03:10 PM
1. He wouldn't have played another snap this year

2. We are way past the trade deadline

3. He wouldn't have re-signed in FA

4. We just saved $2.6 million dollars.

I think you need to be patting the front office on the back.

For giving a division rival a QB? No thanks.

Many backups won't play this year. Weird that we aren't seeing giant roster purges...

bendog
11-23-2011, 03:12 PM
So, can anyone clarify? If we would have kept Orton, would we have gotten a compensatory pick when he signed somewhere in the offseason?

It's not totally knowable because the NFL has never completely given out how they decide, but salary, playing time, post-season awards all play a part, and there's some component of a team having a net loss, or net gain, in FA's lost/signed.

cmhargrove
11-23-2011, 03:16 PM
Perhaps next year, as a stop gap.

He's not a long-term starter.

Yep, KC needs to start searching for the next Brodie Croyle...

Mile High Mojoe
11-23-2011, 03:18 PM
You can't make this stuff up. Unbelievable!:militia:

oubronco
11-23-2011, 03:19 PM
Yep, KC needs to start searching for the next Brodie Croyle...

Well they do have Cassel and now Orton..............LOL..........sorry............. no really LOL

Broncomutt
11-23-2011, 03:20 PM
So we gave KC our backup QB for nothing? Well played front office...

As hard as you ragged on him, you thought we were going back to Orton if Tebow goes down?

With 6 games left it's gonna be Quinn and Weber before Orton took another snap. As evident by waiving him, Orton is worthless to us, at least they can save some coin. You can't rape another team with a limp dick.

gyldenlove
11-23-2011, 03:21 PM
So, can anyone clarify? If we would have kept Orton, would we have gotten a compensatory pick when he signed somewhere in the offseason?

Doubtful, while the rules for compensatory picks are shrouded in mystery and secrecy, it seems pretty clear that in order to get a compensation pick the team must have lost more value in free agency than they gained, the contract value of a player signed must be at least 1.5 million per year and the player must start most of the games in the first season.

Lloyd would have probably landed a comp pick as he is a WR and therefore has good chances of starting since 2-3 WRs start per game, he would also be in line for a contract in the region of 3-4 million per year to a WR desperate team. Orton will unless he dominates with the Chiefs not get a big contract, the QB draft is very deep and talented and there is not a lot of market for someone with his skills as a starter and he most likely won't start a lot of games.

Rulon Velvet Jones
11-23-2011, 03:22 PM
Um, stop gap to what, Bob?

jhns
11-23-2011, 03:22 PM
As hard as you ragged on him, you thought we were going back to Orton if Tebow goes down?

With 6 games left it's gonna be Quinn and Weber before Orton took another snap. As evident by waiving him, Orton is worthless to us, at least they can save some coin. You can't rape another team with a limp dick.

No, I didn't think he would play again. I also think he sucks. I also think he was by far our second best QB and is far better than what KC was going to be starting.

We just helped a division rival...

Mile High Mojoe
11-23-2011, 03:22 PM
All part of Elway's master plan...

Itís a good plan, infiltrate and annihilate the Chiefs from the inside out, sounds like a plan.

Steve Prefontaine
11-23-2011, 03:22 PM
Orton is the qb of future for KC. Dreams do come true!

Dedhed
11-23-2011, 03:25 PM
For giving a division rival a QB.
No. We gave them Kyle Orton.

bendog
11-23-2011, 03:26 PM
But he knows our entire playbook .... that we don't use anymore.

jhns
11-23-2011, 03:26 PM
No. We gave them Kyle Orton.

LOL

Still better than what they had. He will also be pretty motivated week 17.

Tombstone RJ
11-23-2011, 03:28 PM
LOL

Still better than what they had. He will also be pretty motivated week 17.

yah, 'cause you know Orton gets pumped up for games. I mean, that guy just knows how to turn it on in the big games. Yep...

:D

Smilin Assassin
11-23-2011, 03:30 PM
But he knows our entire playbook .... that we don't use anymore.


He does know our Blitz Pick-up calls though:

The Mike blitzes: Knees to chest, deep breaths, wait for the whistle

The Sam blitzes: Head between knees, wait for the whistle

The Will blitzes: Stop, Drop, Tuck, wait for the whistle

ludo21
11-23-2011, 03:30 PM
Haley has to be fearing for his job if he brings in Orton this year

jhns
11-23-2011, 03:31 PM
He does know our Blitz Pick-up calls though:

The Mike blitzes: Knees to chest, deep breaths, wait for the whistle

The Sam blitzes: Head between knees, wait for the whistle

The Will blitzes: Stop, Drop, Tuck, wait for the whistle

Where it will really benefit him is KC runs a similar offense. That will help him a lot more than trying to guess what we are doing.

Mile High Mojoe
11-23-2011, 03:33 PM
I wonder...when they start Orton at QB maybe they'll put him the option since he can't complete a pass to anyone not named Lloyd. Man, this is so great, the craziness of this is so freaking classic. It made my day and I can't stop grinning. It's perfectly awesome.

enjolras
11-23-2011, 03:37 PM
I guess I'm the only one who thinks that handing the Chiefs a better QB option in the midst of a playoff run is absolutely insane?

HooptyHoops
11-23-2011, 03:38 PM
I have talked to a couple die hard Chief fans about this......and, they all seem A OK with Orton.......yes, it blows my mind!

Armchair Bronco
11-23-2011, 03:40 PM
"Well good for him. Congratulations to him," Tebow said after being told Orton was claimed by Kansas City. "That'll be fun to play him the last game of the year."

See. Tebow is the master of the PR spin. This is the perfect thing to say. Elway can seriously learn a thing or two from this kid.

RMT
11-23-2011, 03:40 PM
who knows? Plummer was that stupid.

Yeah, and Plummer wasn't angling for a contract extension either and he didn't ask for his release or to be traded - comparing the 2 is ludicrous.

BroncoBeavis
11-23-2011, 03:42 PM
I guess I'm the only one who thinks that handing the Chiefs a better QB option in the midst of a playoff run is absolutely insane?

The Cheaps have a meat-grinder schedule coming up. If they still catch us after the losses they're destined to take, there's no chance we'll be catching the Raiders or a Wild Card spot.

vonqkilla
11-23-2011, 03:42 PM
I guess I'm the only one who thinks that handing the Chiefs a better QB option in the midst of a playoff run is absolutely insane?

I think it was stupid as hell, but with the holidays coming, bowlen needed the $ for the grandkids bugattis.

RMT
11-23-2011, 03:42 PM
So, can anyone clarify? If we would have kept Orton, would we have gotten a compensatory pick when he signed somewhere in the offseason?

Possibly - but would keeping him on the roster for the rest of 2011 for $2.6 million be worth a compensatory pick in rounds 3 or lower?

OBF1
11-23-2011, 03:43 PM
I guess I'm the only one who thinks that handing the Chiefs a better QB option in the midst of a playoff run is absolutely insane?

Yep.... You are insane. orton and "midst of a playoff run" is an oxymoron.

jhns
11-23-2011, 03:43 PM
The Cheaps have a meat-grinder schedule coming up. If they still catch us after the losses they're destined to take, there's no chance we'll be catching the Raiders or a Wild Card spot.

I would be more worried about them playing spoiler. They don't have to win the West to ruin it for us. Making them better at QB doesn't help us avoid that.

bendog
11-23-2011, 03:44 PM
I guess I'm the only one who thinks that handing the Chiefs a better QB option in the midst of a playoff run is absolutely insane?

No, others have said the same. I just think this is a lousy team. The Mia win was pure luck that their coach laid a mental turd, and the Jests .... man Sanchez actually put up more points for his offense than ours put up ... but he threw the pick. Seeing Den get plowed in the first playoff game does less for me than a top 15 pick. Of course, I'm in NOLA viewing area, and really don't mind watching the giants and eli at all.

bendog
11-23-2011, 03:45 PM
Yep.... You are insane. orton and "midst of a playoff run" is an oxymoron.

I think he meant that Den is in the playoff hunt.

DaFace
11-23-2011, 03:46 PM
I would be more worried about them playing spoiler. They don't have to win the West to ruin it for us. Making them better at QB doesn't help us avoid that.

That's how I view it. The Chiefs aren't making the playoffs this year, but a gimme game for the Broncos at the end of the season just became a 50/50 game.

Mile High Mojoe
11-23-2011, 03:46 PM
I would be more worried about them playing spoiler. They don't have to win the West to ruin it for us. Making them better at QB doesn't help us avoid that.

When you say making them better at QB, I'm thinking...what the hell are you thinking? Orton isn't going to make any team better.

jhns
11-23-2011, 03:46 PM
No, others have said the same. I just think this is a lousy team. The Mia win was pure luck that their coach laid a mental turd, and the Jests .... man Sanchez actually put up more points for his offense than ours put up ... but he threw the pick. Seeing Den get plowed in the first playoff game does less for me than a top 15 pick. Of course, I'm in NOLA viewing area, and really don't mind watching the giants and eli at all.

What a great fan!

jhns
11-23-2011, 03:47 PM
When you say making them better at QB, I'm thinking...what the hell are you thinking? Orton isn't going to make any team better.

As hard as it is to believe, there is worse than Orton out there. Lets hope it is us two for the division. That way they stand no chance with him.

cmhargrove
11-23-2011, 03:49 PM
I have talked to a couple die hard Chief fans about this......and, they all seem A OK with Orton.......yes, it blows my mind!

Let's be serious here.

Orton can do well with some good pass blocking and a solid run game. He has a true #1 receiver in Bowe, and he has shown he can send Bowe to the next level (in passing yards at least).

If KC hadn't had their injury issues this year, they might look a lot better with Orton at the helm, but I still don't know about their pass pro at this point. They got pummeled by the Pats, but the Pats d-line has done pretty well lately in passing situations.

I believe Orton can be a significant upgrade over Cassel if used properly, and if I was a Chorfs fan, I would be relatively optimistic (especially after seeing Palko).

Dagmar
11-23-2011, 03:49 PM
I have no idea why jhns, the biggest Orton hater on here is upset about this move??

BroncoBeavis
11-23-2011, 03:51 PM
I would be more worried about them playing spoiler. They don't have to win the West to ruin it for us. Making them better at QB doesn't help us avoid that.

Eh. It's a wash to me. If Orton does improve their game (choking as I type that) it might help them eek out a win for us against the Raiders. Who knows. If we end up playing Orton for a deciding week 17 game on New Years' Day, I'll be happy we got there.

jhns
11-23-2011, 03:51 PM
I have no idea why jhns, the biggest Orton hater on here is upset about this move??

Because I'm smarter than you?

Tombstone RJ
11-23-2011, 03:52 PM
All this does for KC is insure they won't be drafting Luck. Orton may help them win a few more games and that may be enough to keep Faley as the HC.

This is just a very, very questionable move by the chefs front office. Orton is not good enough to get the chefs into the playoffs. He is just not that kind of a QB.

If I was the chefs front office I'd give Palko another game or two and then insert Stanzi and see what he brings to the table. Then at the end of the year I clean house and kick Faley to the curb and draft a new QB and hire Bill Cowher to coach the team.

damn, I bet you're glad I'm not the chef's front office because I'd have them in the playoffs in 2 years.

Mile High Mojoe
11-23-2011, 03:53 PM
As hard as it is to believe, there is worse than Orton out there. Lets hope it is us two for the division. That way they stand no chance with him.

I guess one could say Cassel hits 10 on the suck-o-meter Orton only a 9. Not really getting much of improvement but okay.

Dutch
11-23-2011, 03:53 PM
LOL

Still better than what they had. He will also be pretty motivated week 17.

Steelers
Bears
Jets
Packers
Raiders

Please, we are talking about a mid season QB change to a guy who hasn't been in the offense for a single snap. What in the hell makes you think (I know, a stretch) that he's even going to be playing by then? I will be suprised if he isn't on IR by the Packers game. Your incessant whining about every move our front office makes is only as tiresome as your lack of football IQ. Go back to ruling your fagasy football league....please

Dagmar
11-23-2011, 03:53 PM
No, others have said the same. I just think this is a lousy team. The Mia win was pure luck that their coach laid a mental turd, and the Jests .... man Sanchez actually put up more points for his offense than ours put up ... but he threw the pick. Seeing Den get plowed in the first playoff game does less for me than a top 15 pick. Of course, I'm in NOLA viewing area, and really don't mind watching the giants and eli at all.

Win the West, nah, I want a higher draft pick!!

****ing hell.

Dagmar
11-23-2011, 03:54 PM
Because I'm smarter than you?

You're a delight. Did you have ribs removed for it or are you just limber?

cmhargrove
11-23-2011, 03:55 PM
No, others have said the same. I just think this is a lousy team. The Mia win was pure luck that their coach laid a mental turd, and the Jests .... man Sanchez actually put up more points for his offense than ours put up ... but he threw the pick. Seeing Den get plowed in the first playoff game does less for me than a top 15 pick. Of course, I'm in NOLA viewing area, and really don't mind watching the giants and eli at all.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but the Jets scored points on two field goals, then a lucky TD by their offensive lineman (which is a turnover about 8 out of 10 times it is fumbled at the goal line). Sanchez wasn't actually involved in any scoring play (for his team).

bendog
11-23-2011, 03:56 PM
I'm not trying to be argumentative, but the Jets scored points on two field goals, then a lucky TD by their offensive lineman (which is a turnover about 8 out of 10 times it is fumbled at the goal line). Sanchez wasn't actually involved in any scoring play (for his team).

That's true. And Cinny might be a wildcard team, and obviously Den can compete with them. But, I still think Fox and Elway didn't expect a .500 season with this roster.

DaFace
11-23-2011, 03:59 PM
All this does for KC is insure they won't be drafting Luck. Orton may help them win a few more games and that may be enough to keep Faley as the HC.

This is just a very, very questionable move by the chefs front office. Orton is not good enough to get the chefs into the playoffs. He is just not that kind of a QB.

If I was the chefs front office I'd give Palko another game or two and then insert Stanzi and see what he brings to the table. Then at the end of the year I clean house and kick Faley to the curb and draft a new QB and hire Bill Cowher to coach the team.

damn, I bet you're glad I'm not the chef's front office because I'd have them in the playoffs in 2 years.

Are you seriously implying that there's any possibility of the Chiefs 1) making the playoffs or 2) being in a position to draft Luck no matter what happens at this point?

Mile High Mojoe
11-23-2011, 04:00 PM
Because I'm smarter than you?

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The Devil went down to KC, cause I think I'm bettter than you.

Tombstone RJ
11-23-2011, 04:02 PM
Are you seriously implying that there's any possibility of the Chiefs 1) making the playoffs or 2) being in a position to draft Luck no matter what happens at this point?

No, I'm saying it makes no sense to bring in Orton. They suck and they might as well suck for Luck and then bring in a new coaching staff. Now they have to pay Orton $2.5m to do what exactly, be a back up to Cassel?

bendog
11-23-2011, 04:03 PM
No, I'm saying it makes no sense to bring in Orton. They suck and they might as well suck for Luck and then bring in a new coaching staff. Now they have to pay Orton $2.5m to do what exactly, be a back up to Cassel?

They might cut Cassell next year after signing Orton to a cheaper contract extension AND draft someone.

Ronnie Tsunami
11-23-2011, 04:04 PM
No, I'm saying it makes no sense to bring in Orton. They suck and they might as well suck for Luck and then bring in a new coaching staff. Now they have to pay Orton $2.5m to do what exactly, be a back up to Cassel?

And also, Scott Pioli and Haley have jobs to keep, families to feed. As much as it ultimately will set the team back in the long run, you cannot blame the guys for trying to win football games. Every single player on that team, every single coach is fighting to keep a job. Sucking for Luck might seem easy and the best way to go, but that's not how it works in a league where the average player lifespan is 3 years.

Winning = job security. Plain and simple.

Tombstone RJ
11-23-2011, 04:05 PM
They might cut Cassell next year after signing Orton to a cheaper contract extension AND draft someone.

yah, maybe. They must have no confidence in Stanzi.

Armchair Bronco
11-23-2011, 04:05 PM
I dunno. Celebrating when a division rival has just upgraded their QB doesn't sit right with me. We still have to play KC one more time and Orton knows a lot about our offense even if he didn't run it.

Dutch
11-23-2011, 04:05 PM
I'm surprised that KC went ahead with this move after Orton's camp put out the word to the Squaws to stay away this morning. They must have offered him the opportunity to challenge for a starting job next year. Otherwise, they just signed a guy who was looking at going home to Chicago to play for a playoff contender (close enough, his wife is from there), in time for the holidays, with a newborn baby (bet she had her hopes up for that one).

canadianbroncosfan
11-23-2011, 04:06 PM
I really don't understand this move by the Chiefs. $2.5M for a QB that still doesn't give them a chance to win any, maybe one, of their remaining six games?

TonyR
11-23-2011, 04:07 PM
So we gave KC our backup QB for nothing? Well played front office...

Oh look who's whining again...

canadianbroncosfan
11-23-2011, 04:09 PM
I dunno. Celebrating when a division rival has just upgraded their QB doesn't sit right with me. We still have to play KC one more time and Orton knows a lot about our offense even if he didn't run it.

After going 0-5, or 1-4 at best by the time we play New Years Day, I think Orton will be a non issue. We however may be in the hunt for a playoff spot, will be playing at home, and they will take every liberty to show why they waived Orton.

canadianbroncosfan
11-23-2011, 04:10 PM
So we gave KC our backup QB for nothing? Well played front office...

Or to save $2.5M

DaFace
11-23-2011, 04:10 PM
No, I'm saying it makes no sense to bring in Orton. They suck and they might as well suck for Luck and then bring in a new coaching staff. Now they have to pay Orton $2.5m to do what exactly, be a back up to Cassel?

1. We're not bad enough to Suck for Luck unless you think Indy's going to suddenly win 5 of their last 6 games. Not to mention the Vikings, Dolphins, Panthers, Rams, Redskins...
2. Cassel is out for the season, so they are paying Orton $2.5m to start, not be a backup. He's clearly an upgrade over Palko.

Look, I know some people in the world are all for tanking games for draft position, but I've always thought that is bull****. Orton gives us a better chance to win for 6 games, and we can just let him walk in the offseason (and most likely pick up a draft pick for him anyway).

Tombstone RJ
11-23-2011, 04:11 PM
And also, Scott Pioli and Haley have jobs to keep, families to feed. As much as it ultimately will set the team back in the long run, you cannot blame the guys for trying to win football games. Every single player on that team, every single coach is fighting to keep a job. Sucking for Luck might seem easy and the best way to go, but that's not how it works in a league where the average player lifespan is 3 years.

Winning = job security. Plain and simple.

yah ok but is Orton the guy that will help them win games now?

Atwater His Ass
11-23-2011, 04:12 PM
Doesn't make sense to me that Denver released Orton at all, unless he was just becoming a distraction, and if that's the case, I applaud the move. Who cares about his salary? If this team really does challenge for the division, what happens if Tebow goes down? Really bad move to me from that standpoint.

Also sits wrong with me since we basically gave away a starting QB to a division rival for nothing. And I would never count out a professional athelete with some personal motivation. No matter how badly he's played or will play in the future, you can all but gaurentee that if he plays against Denver, he will show up.

edog24
11-23-2011, 04:12 PM
From what I saw against NE, I think Palko is better.

Gort
11-23-2011, 04:12 PM
Yeah, and Plummer wasn't angling for a contract extension either and he didn't ask for his release or to be traded - comparing the 2 is ludicrous.

yeah, and Orton doesn't want to go to KC, he wants to go to CHI. he's the one who got this ball rolling expecting to end up in CHI. he doesn't want to move his wife and newborn to KC for just a few weeks or be apart from the for just a few weeks... so we'll see what happens.

calling my comparison ludicrous is ludicrous.

checkmate.

Tombstone RJ
11-23-2011, 04:13 PM
1. We're not bad enough to Suck for Luck unless you think Indy's going to suddenly win 5 of their last 6 games. Not to mention the Vikings, Dolphins, Panthers, Rams, Redskins...
2. Cassel is out for the season, so they are paying Orton $2.5m to start, not be a backup. He's clearly an upgrade over Palko.

Look, I know some people in the world are all for tanking games for draft position, but I've always thought that is bull****. Orton gives us a better chance to win for 6 games, and we can just let him walk in the offseason (and most likely pick up a draft pick for him anyway).

yah ok but Orton is not going to help this team win games with the schedule you are facing. You may not be in the Luck sweepstakes as of now but you are definitely in the Barkley, RG3 type of sweepstakes.

canadianbroncosfan
11-23-2011, 04:13 PM
yah ok but is Orton the guy that will help them win games now?

Compared to Palko yes, but going from no chance of winning to an extremely low chance of winning isn't worth $2.5M and going 0-6 with a QB not named Palko won't help anyone keep their job.

Atwater His Ass
11-23-2011, 04:14 PM
Or to save $2.5M

So what? This move puts us at a competitive disadvantage in more ways than one. And you want to justify it by saving money?

I guess you're new, but anyone subscribing to this theory after how Bowlen has been absolutely ripped for being a tight wad is ****ing amazing.

TonyR
11-23-2011, 04:17 PM
Because I'm smarter than you?

You're clearly brilliant. Mensa level genius. Whine, moan, and complain about how awful Orton is for over a year and then whine, moan, and complain when we cut him and the Chiefs pick him up. If Orton is even remotely as awful as you've been saying so adamantly (and annoyingly) for so long then why would you possibly care? I've got a good blog post for you:

http://www.endingthegrind.com/7-habits-highly-miserable-people/

Mile High Mojoe
11-23-2011, 04:18 PM
Doesn't make sense to me that Denver released Orton at all, unless he was just becoming a distraction, and if that's the case, I applaud the move. Who cares about his salary? If this team really does challenge for the division, what happens if Tebow goes down? Really bad move to me from that standpoint.

Also sits wrong with me since we basically gave away a starting QB to a division rival for nothing. And I would never count out a professional athelete with some personal motivation. No matter how badly he's played or will play in the future, you can all but gaurentee that if he plays against Denver, he will show up.

Please, please pretty please let him show up.

oubronco
11-23-2011, 04:18 PM
I have no idea why jhns, the biggest Orton hater on here is upset about this move??

Idiot comes to mind

errand
11-23-2011, 04:18 PM
I find it fitting that the 2 QB's who F'ed up our franchise over the last 2 years are on the same team and SUCKING.

how is it kyle's fault he was a Bronco?

He was traded here...and i don't care who you are...if they offer you $9 million for a one year extension and you turn it down, well....then i guess you would be stupid.

thanks for your service Kyle...hope you get your ass beat when you come back here.

Ronnie Tsunami
11-23-2011, 04:19 PM
yah ok but is Orton the guy that will help them win games now?

You're Haley. You get approached and told that you need to win x more games to keep your job.

Maybe you don't get approached. Maybe you just have a bit of common sense and realize you need to win more games, period.

Do you feel more comfortable starting Kyle Orton at QB, or do you feel more comfortable with Tyler Palko? If the Chiefs win 2 games or more in their remaining BRUTAL schedule, it is because of Kyle.

You say Orton isn't gonna help the team win games with the schedule... Then who is?

canadianbroncosfan
11-23-2011, 04:19 PM
So what? This move puts us at a competitive disadvantage in more ways than one. And you want to justify it by saving money?

I guess you're new, but anyone subscribing to this theory after how Bowlen has been absolutely ripped for being a tight wad is ****ing amazing.

Okay but what does keeping Orton offer? You ask what if Tebow gets injured, what Orton would come in a magically help us win? After being benched to a rookie, he would come in and some how perform above expectations? The reality is the FO didn't trade him to KC and I don't really care that they got him. He couldn't win here, and given their schedule he won't win their either. Maybe saving the money with encourage Pat to spend it elsewhere.

DaFace
11-23-2011, 04:20 PM
yah ok but Orton is not going to help this team win games with the schedule you are facing. You may not be in the Luck sweepstakes as of now but you are definitely in the Barkley, RG3 type of sweepstakes.

Eh, probably not. But at least we might score from time to time.

errand
11-23-2011, 04:21 PM
So we gave KC our backup QB for nothing? Well played front office...

...perhaps you should dust off your resume'?

edog24
11-23-2011, 04:21 PM
The whole thing seems odd, it would be nice to know the rationale behind the timing of it.

Turd_Ferguson
11-23-2011, 04:22 PM
I dunno. Celebrating when a division rival has just upgraded their QB doesn't sit right with me. We still have to play KC one more time and Orton knows a lot about our offense even if he didn't run it.

For starters, who says Orton is an upgrade? Cassel is and athlete and can run well. Secondly last I checked we are running some kinda high bred option attack? We threw the ball 8 times against KC and beat them. It doesn't matter what he tells them.

I think we just dumped a terrible QB on a division rival... one that they think is good enough to sign him and keep him around awhile god willing.

cutthemdown
11-23-2011, 04:24 PM
It is odd to let your bkup qb go to a division rival when you play them still again. Whatever though if we can hurt Cassel we can hurt Orton also. Broncos need to show Chargers its not Tebow you need to worry about. It's your RT and LT. Chargers LT is out for the yr so I see a huge problem double teaming Miller when Doom will licking his chops for that bkup scrub.

Tombstone RJ
11-23-2011, 04:24 PM
You're Haley. You get approached and told that you need to win x more games to keep your job.

Maybe you don't get approached. Maybe you just have a bit of common sense and realize you need to win more games, period.

Do you feel more comfortable starting Kyle Orton at QB, or do you feel more comfortable with Tyler Palko? If the Chiefs win 2 games or more in their remaining BRUTAL schedule, it is because of Kyle.

You say Orton isn't gonna help the team win games with the schedule... Then who is?

My understanding is that Pioli makes the player personell decisions. For all we know Haley likes Palko just fine or perhaps he thinks Stanzi should get a shot.

I remember hearing somewhere (maybe on this board) that haley and pioli don't always see eye-to-eye but that might just be bs...

Agamemnon
11-23-2011, 04:25 PM
Eh, probably not. But at least we might score from time to time.

Err...have you watched Orton play? Scoring is not exactly his forte...

DaFace
11-23-2011, 04:25 PM
For starters, who says Orton is an upgrade? Cassel is and athlete and can run well. Secondly last I checked we are running some kinda high bred option attack? We threw the ball 8 times against KC and beat them. It doesn't matter what he tells them.

I think we just dumped a terrible QB on a division rival... one that they think is good enough to sign him and keep him around awhile god willing.

C'mon people, try and keep up. Cassel is done for the season. If the Chiefs decide to sign Orton to a new deal (which I personally DON'T want to happen), you can start comparing the two. Right now, the only valid comparison is Orton vs. Palko. Tough choice.

errand
11-23-2011, 04:29 PM
But he knows our entire playbook .... that we don't use anymore.

We would use it...if our current starter could run it.

Right now he can't and the new O is helping us get back to respectability right now. Imagine the buzz on here if we get to week 17 and the chiefs and Broncos are tied (however unlikely) and winner makes playoffs....


If the Broncos win on an Orton INT, it would be funny reading a Denver Post headline of "Orton leads Broncos to win over KC"

Tombstone RJ
11-23-2011, 04:31 PM
We would use it...if our current starter could run it.

Right now he can't and the new O is helping us get back to respectability right now. Imagine the buzz on here if we get to week 17 and the chiefs and Broncos are tied (however unlikely) and winner makes playoffs....


If the Broncos win on an Orton INT, it would be funny reading a Denver Post headline of "Orton leads Broncos to win over KC"

LOL

RMT
11-23-2011, 04:32 PM
yeah, and Orton doesn't want to go to KC, he wants to go to CHI. he's the one who got this ball rolling expecting to end up in CHI. he doesn't want to move his wife and newborn to KC for just a few weeks or be apart from the for just a few weeks... so we'll see what happens.

calling my comparison ludicrous is ludicrous.

checkmate.

just because orton doesn't want to go to kc is moot - unless he wants to forfeit the rest of his salary & prorated signing bonus ... as far as bringing up not wanting to move his wife & newborn to KC for a few weeks, how does going to KC instead of CHI make a difference there?

you need to learn how to play chess ...

Bob's your Information Minister
11-23-2011, 04:37 PM
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OBF1
11-23-2011, 04:41 PM
Doesn't make sense to me that Denver released Orton at all, unless he was just becoming a distraction, and if that's the case, I applaud the move. Who cares about his salary? If this team really does challenge for the division, what happens if Tebow goes down? Really bad move to me from that standpoint.

Also sits wrong with me since we basically gave away a starting QB to a division rival for nothing. And I would never count out a professional athelete with some personal motivation. No matter how badly he's played or will play in the future, you can all but gaurentee that if he plays against Denver, he will show up.


You are joking right??? Thinking you are funny???

Not a single person that actully watches NFL football would ever confuse kyle orton with a winner since his days in Denver started. Did you not watch our "Best chances to win now" QB play in his 5 games this season. Let me remind you, Total suckage and a record of 1-4

Serious, he helps our playoff chances most by being as far away from Denver as possible.

bendog
11-23-2011, 04:42 PM
We would use it...if our current starter could run it.

Right now he can't and the new O is helping us get back to respectability right now. Imagine the buzz on here if we get to week 17 and the chiefs and Broncos are tied (however unlikely) and winner makes playoffs....


If the Broncos win on an Orton INT, it would be funny reading a Denver Post headline of "Orton leads Broncos to win over KC"

True. This entire bronco season is a head scratcher. Fox tried a conventional offense, and we were in the Luck sweepstakes. The fans revolt. Fox puts in Tebow, who was hopelessly lost in a conventional nfl offense. They put in the read option and even triple option, and Tebow's personality and competitiveness light a fire, and they climb up to .500.

As for Orton, we should wish him the best. He never griped even though McIdiot put him in no win situations with the fans first by shipping Lambchop for him and then drafting Tebow. He led the team in the lockout workouts. If the team played like it did when he started, no qb is going to look good.

As for hypothetical big games, if Den and Tebow can't beat the chorfs with Orton in Den, people don't need to blame EFX for not making the playoffs. Den didn't belong in them.

Steve Sewell
11-23-2011, 04:47 PM
I have talked to a couple die hard Chief fans about this......and, they all seem A OK with Orton.......yes, it blows my mind!

Anything is better than Cassel or Palko. If I were a Chump fan I'd be thrilled.

DaFace
11-23-2011, 04:48 PM
Anything is better than Cassel or Palko. If I were a Chump fan I'd be thrilled.

Thrilled is a bit much. But certainly not revolting.

Paladin
11-23-2011, 04:48 PM
All the self-congratulatory BS rampant on this thread is worth nothing if the Broncos do not beat Sandy Eggo next sunday, a task that is not guaranteed. Further, I would not be surprised if the Broncos lost the KC game for a varity of reasons. Orton can throw the effing footbal while TEBOW is clearly challenged to hit the broadside of a barn on any given throw.

Meltdonw city.

Turd_Ferguson
11-23-2011, 04:53 PM
Thrilled is a bit much. But certainly not revolting.

Signing Orton is saying that the QBs on the roster are total $hit, and they are not going to do anything to change it.

bendog
11-23-2011, 04:54 PM
All the self-congratulatory BS rampant on this thread is worth nothing if the Broncos do not beat Sandy Eggo next sunday, a task that is not guaranteed. Further, I would not be surprised if the Broncos lost the KC game for a varity of reasons. Orton can throw the effing footbal while TEBOW is clearly challenged to hit the broadside of a barn on any given throw.

Meltdonw city.

Agreed, but remember Franklin owned his side of the line and the entire KC front 7 was on roller skates going backwards. Ironically the read option may be the best way to get the chorfs. SD is going to be harder than the Jests, imo

Mile High Mojoe
11-23-2011, 05:09 PM
All the self-congratulatory BS rampant on this thread is worth nothing if the Broncos do not beat Sandy Eggo next sunday, a task that is not guaranteed. Further, I would not be surprised if the Broncos lost the KC game for a varity of reasons. Orton can throw the effing footbal while TEBOW is clearly challenged to hit the broadside of a barn on any given throw.

Meltdonw city.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/gomilehigh/negative-people1.jpg

Rigs11
11-23-2011, 05:11 PM
Better hope Denver beats kc or this place is gonna go into epic meltdown!

Bob's your Information Minister
11-23-2011, 05:15 PM
http://i44.tinypic.com/14wr1w0.jpg

McDman
11-23-2011, 05:26 PM
I'm hoping for the best for Orton. He wasn't a douche while he was here, he didn't go out drinking the night before games, always a good teammate. Just because he wasn't good doesn't mean we should hate him.

Rigs11
11-23-2011, 05:49 PM
I'm hoping for the best for Orton. He wasn't a douche while he was here, he didn't go out drinking the night before games, always a good teammate. Just because he wasn't good doesn't mean we should hate him.

Dude everyone knows that to be a true broncos fan you have to be classless and hate on everyone.the gm,the coach,players,ex players,the media.get wit the programHa!

Dutch
11-23-2011, 05:52 PM
Dude everyone knows that to be a true broncos fan you have to be classless and hate on everyone.the gm,the coach,players,ex players,the media.get wit the programHa!

Only on the Mane (the last couple of years now, anyway).

Bronx33
11-23-2011, 05:52 PM
Bob is going to score a orton poster to go next to his elvis grbac poster.

Ratboy
11-23-2011, 05:53 PM
"Yes Josh...we have BOTH Matt Cassel and Kyle Orton...COME ON OVER!!"

http://www.nflpassers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/joshmcdaniels4.jpg

OH PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN. :spit:

titan
11-23-2011, 05:54 PM
Orton: "“I am happy to be a part of the Kansas City Chiefs. I got claimed today. I am excited about the last few days and I am looking forward to getting to know my teammates with the Chiefs.”

link: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/23/orton-excited-about-recent-events-happy-to-be-a-chief/

Good! No worries about Orton not reporting to KC.

errand
11-23-2011, 05:59 PM
yah ok but is Orton the guy that will help them win games now?

Everyone laughed when the Steelers signed Tommy Maddox...he came in a performed better than expected.

Everyone laughed when the Cards signed Warner, he led them to SB, almost winning it, and is the only Cardinal QB to win more than one playoff game in our lifetime.

Doesn't mean that Chiefs will win division or even another game...but stranger things have happened before. If you know for sure that they'll not win another game the rest of the season, then don't tell us...tell your bookie

Ronnie Tsunami
11-23-2011, 06:00 PM
Orton: "ďI am happy to be a part of the Kansas City Chiefs. I got claimed today. I am excited about the last few days and I am looking forward to getting to know my teammates with the Chiefs.Ē

link: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/23/orton-excited-about-recent-events-happy-to-be-a-chief/

Good! No worries about Orton not reporting to KC.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lum9ogp9BR1qm4no6.gif

errand
11-23-2011, 06:02 PM
OH PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN. :spit:

Well he's 1-0 lifetime vs former teams....careful what you wish for.

Bronx33
11-23-2011, 06:02 PM
KC you now own the pocket sloth install chicken wire in front of your tv sets ( carry on).

errand
11-23-2011, 06:07 PM
I'm hoping for the best for Orton. He wasn't a douche while he was here, he didn't go out drinking the night before games, always a good teammate. Just because he wasn't good doesn't mean we should hate him.

Exactly....he wasn't a problem child at all. He was a stand up guy and for all we know he probably told/asked Fox to waive him because he figured Tebow shouldn't have to worry about all the rumors swirling about whether or not FO thought he was the Broncos guy or not.

Removing Orton is a vote of confidence for Tebow if you ask me...i mean afterall didn't he finish as the division's 2nd best starting QB behind Rivers in that poll a few months ago? Amazing how now he'll never win another game according to these same clowns that said he was better than Cassell, and Campbell, etc...

campocorto
11-23-2011, 06:16 PM
Orton is a stiff, but I am not looking forward to facing him in week 17. He's going to approach it like its the "game of his life".

Denver could have been facing a favorable match up in Tyler Palko/Ricky Stanzi, but it's going to be a much tougher game to win now.

All for $2.5 million. That's a drop in the bucket. A win has more value than that sum.

Denver should have let him rot on the bench.

broncosteven
11-23-2011, 06:18 PM
Bob is going to score a orton poster to go next to his elvis grbac poster.

You forgot that Steve Bono is his favorite KFC QB.

Now KFC has the smart version of Steve Bono, too bad he is slower than Steve Bono ever was.

errand
11-23-2011, 06:20 PM
Orton is a stiff, but I am not looking to facing him in week 17. He's going to approach it like its the "game of his life".

Denver could have been facing a favorable match up in Tyler Palko/Ricky Stanzi, but it's going to be a much tougher game to win now.

All for $2.5 million. That's a drop in the bucket. A win has more value than that sum.

.

Especially if it costs us the division or a wild card spot....man, talk about heads exploding.

Bronx33
11-23-2011, 06:32 PM
Chefs planet loves him..

View Poll Results: Do you approve or disapprove of the Chiefs claiming Kyle Orton?
Strongly approve 26 15.03%
Approve 66 38.15%
Gaz 11 6.36%
Disapprove 33 19.08%
Strongly disapprove 37 21.39%

Tim
11-23-2011, 06:38 PM
Welcome to the 53 Adam Weber..

Kyle hop in your prius and beat it.:welcome:

Tombstone RJ
11-23-2011, 06:54 PM
Everyone laughed when the Steelers signed Tommy Maddox...he came in a performed better than expected.

Everyone laughed when the Cards signed Warner, he led them to SB, almost winning it, and is the only Cardinal QB to win more than one playoff game in our lifetime.

Doesn't mean that Chiefs will win division or even another game...but stranger things have happened before. If you know for sure that they'll not win another game the rest of the season, then don't tell us...tell your bookie

I think the Orton situation is different but we shall see...

Bronx33
11-23-2011, 06:56 PM
Matt Cassel, Career: Completion Rate of 59%, TD/INT ratio of 1.69:1 (76 TDs, 45 INTs), and a Career QB rating of 82.5.

Kyle Orton, Career: Completion Rate of 58%, TD/INT ratio of 1.44:1 (79 TDs, 55 INTs), and a Career QB rating of 79


They brought in matt cassel for matt cassell.

Br0nc0Buster
11-23-2011, 07:00 PM
Orton is quite a bit more accurate than Cassel

Cassel's stats are a farce, most of his completions are dink dunks to RBs and TEs

As much as people get on Orton for dinking and dunking, he actually throws the ball much better down the field than Cassel

Cassel is more athletic and mobile though

Not sure what happened with Kyle this year though, if they are getting the same guy we started for 4.5 games then he isnt really an upgrade over Cassel

Bob's your Information Minister
11-23-2011, 07:05 PM
Matt Cassel, Career: Completion Rate of 59%, TD/INT ratio of 1.69:1 (76 TDs, 45 INTs), and a Career QB rating of 82.5.

Kyle Orton, Career: Completion Rate of 58%, TD/INT ratio of 1.44:1 (79 TDs, 55 INTs), and a Career QB rating of 79


They brought in matt cassel for matt cassell.

You can't really include Orton's stats with Chicago.

Different player.

cabronco
11-23-2011, 07:06 PM
Orton is a stiff, but I am not looking forward to facing him in week 17. He's going to approach it like its the "game of his life".

Denver could have been facing a favorable match up in Tyler Palko/Ricky Stanzi, but it's going to be a much tougher game to win now.

All for $2.5 million. That's a drop in the bucket. A win has more value than that sum.

Denver should have let him rot on the bench.


It's actually $1.58 mil that Chefs have to pay. And if Orton bails to a new team from free agency next year, chefs would get a comp. pick out of it.

epicSocialism4tw
11-23-2011, 07:06 PM
EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bronx33
11-23-2011, 07:18 PM
You can't really include Orton's stats with Chicago.

Different player.


Yes bob its like night and day kinda like family dollar stores per square mile in KC.

ZONA
11-23-2011, 07:24 PM
THIS IS ALL A PLAN FOR ORTON TO BEAT TEBOWWWW SO ELWAY CAN TRADE TEBOWWWW (He has 4 w's at the end of his name, like our record)

I'm hoping your only being silly because if you're not, you've got to be one of the most ignorant dudes on here.

Paladin
11-23-2011, 07:32 PM
I'm hoping your only being silly because if you're not, you've got to be one of the most ignorant dudes on here.

And that's saying something.........

Bob's your Information Minister
11-23-2011, 07:48 PM
Even cheaper!

Clearing the air on Ortonís contract

Posted by Mike Florio on November 23, 2011, 8:35 PM EST

After the Broncos abruptly cut quarterback Kyle Orton on Tuesday, numerous reports emerged that Orton has a remaining salary of $2.5 million, which translates to a full-season base salary of $7 million in 2011.

But that number simply isnít accurate.

Per NFLPA records, as confirmed by a league source, Ortonís base salary for 2011 was $4.5 million. With 11 checks paid and six to go, Orton is due to earn an additional $1.588 million.

Orton also received a roster bonus from the Broncos of $1.5 million after the lockout ended.

Since the Chiefs claimed Ortonís contract via waivers, the Broncos wonít have to pay him another dime. For the Chiefs, who as of Sunday had $27.4 million in cap space, $1.588 million represents a small price to pay for an upgrade over Tyler Palko. Then, if/when Orton leaves via free agency in March 2012, the Chiefs could end up with a compensatory draft pick in 2013.

Some have dismissed that motivation, pointing out that the convoluted formula for determining compensatory picks would translate to a mere sixth-round selection.

You know, like Tom Brady was.
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Tim
11-23-2011, 08:00 PM
I wish I got payed 264,666 a week

broncosteven
11-23-2011, 08:11 PM
You can't really include Orton's stats with Chicago.

Different player.

Not at all, different support cast maybe but Orton had everything in Chicago he used in Denver. Not able to move out of his own way in the pocket, nice touch on the deep ball, dink and dunk check downs all were the staple of his play in Chicago, I know I watched the games since I live in the area.

Face it Boob, you know your OL is a joke and when Orton does line up behind it he is going to get pummelled. Cassell was on the run most of the year and it was getting worse in his last couple games. He had to pull it down and scramble to try to make something out of nothing. Orton is not going to be able to do what Cassell did and throw in not knowing his WR's tendencies he is going to get creamed.

KipCorrington25
11-23-2011, 08:15 PM
After going 0-5, or 1-4 at best by the time we play New Years Day, I think Orton will be a non issue. We however may be in the hunt for a playoff spot, will be playing at home, and they will take every liberty to show why they waived Orton.

Exactly and if Orton comes in here and beats us and knocks us out of the playoffs then we in no way, shape, or form deserved to be in them.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-23-2011, 08:21 PM
@KingNeckbeard: Id like to thank all the sluts of Denver for being skanky enough to always let me hit it rawdog, yet clean enough to never give me hepatitis

broncosteven
11-23-2011, 08:21 PM
Exactly and if Orton comes in here and beats us and knocks us out of the playoffs then we in no way, shape, or form deserved to be in them.

In 3 games from now we are 8-5 then I think we can start thinking about the playoffs. I do think our schedule looks a lot easier with SD and the bills struggling and the other 3 teams starting their 2nd string QB's.

McDman
11-23-2011, 08:24 PM
Orton is a middle of the road QB, except this year he blew bc of the pressure, but Cassel is just garbage.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
11-23-2011, 08:30 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/BillSchulz (https://twitter.com/#%21/BillSchulz)
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Truly my Orton "beard" has failed me as he is in KC rather than Chi. Off to find a girl beard, I guess.
lol

Bronx33
11-23-2011, 08:31 PM
Orton is a middle of the road QB, except this year he blew bc of the pressure, but Cassel is just garbage.


Hes sucked cause his brain wasn't attached to his legs.

cutthemdown
11-23-2011, 08:38 PM
Orton will probably play well in KC, then throw a pick 6 and lose.

broncosteven
11-23-2011, 08:40 PM
The positive thing KFC fans can take from all this is that they won't have to watch the mass exodus of Camero's leaving Analhead in the 3rd Quarter, the fans that can afford tickets will just rather stay at their Uncles trailer with their sister/wives to watch the ass wooping rather than waste valuable gas money driving out to watch the game for 35 minutes.

cutthemdown
11-23-2011, 08:40 PM
Besides it shows what utter disarray the whole division is in. Raiders qb out had to make a desperate trade for Palmer. Broncos ship out Orton and start Tebow. Chiefs lose starting QB have to take Broncos trash. The fact SD can't rise above this garbage when they supposedly have the franchise QB everyone wants is a joke.

Chargers are a joke and even if they beat Denver this week Turner still should be fired.

Dagmar
11-23-2011, 08:40 PM
Orton will probably play well in KC between the 20's, then throw a pick 6 and lose.

;)

cutthemdown
11-23-2011, 08:46 PM
I find it funny 3 of the 4 starting afc west qbs failed to make it through yr with their teams. I guess Orton has a shot as finishing up a starter though.

They can't protect him though and the running game is average and pedestrian.

Bronx33
11-23-2011, 09:56 PM
Update on the consensus at cheaps planet

View Poll Results: Do you approve or disapprove of the Chiefs claiming Kyle Orton?

Strongly approve 33 14.80%
Approve 87 39.01%
Gaz 15 6.73%
Disapprove 42 18.83%
Strongly disapprove 46 20.63%

KCStud
11-23-2011, 09:59 PM
You mean we sign a starting QB this year and if/when? he leaves for FA in 6 weeks we get a comp draft pick? Wow that's a win-win if I've ever seen it.

Bronx33
11-23-2011, 10:12 PM
You mean we sign a starting QB this year and if/when? he leaves for FA in 6 weeks we get a comp draft pick? Wow that's a win-win if I've ever seen it.


Tell us again how great your GM is.

KCStud
11-23-2011, 10:16 PM
Tell us again how great your GM is.

Better than Elway. That's definitely fo sho!

cutthemdown
11-23-2011, 10:41 PM
You mean we sign a starting QB this year and if/when? he leaves for FA in 6 weeks we get a comp draft pick? Wow that's a win-win if I've ever seen it.

You might get a 6th for him if he starts for you. It's not a bad move by Chiefs, when you are desperate is any move for a qb a bad move? no way its a good move because they are so desperate.

Not sure if Orton is good enough to just come in and start though. If they have a killer running game still, some good TE, a better oline then maybe. It's going to be tough on him to play well and win IMO.

KCStud
11-23-2011, 10:44 PM
You might get a 6th for him if he starts for you. It's not a bad move by Chiefs, when you are desperate is any move for a qb a bad move? no way its a good move because they are so desperate.

Not sure if Orton is good enough to just come in and start though. If they have a killer running game still, some good TE, a better oline then maybe. It's going to be tough on him to play well and win IMO.

That's why they signed him. He was the best available. We needed a QB with experience because KC has the toughest schedule left of any team. No losing teams on the schedule from here on out (as of now).

RMT
11-23-2011, 10:44 PM
You mean we sign a starting QB this year and if/when? he leaves for FA in 6 weeks we get a comp draft pick? Wow that's a win-win if I've ever seen it.

and in return we stop paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to a 3rd stringer

jhns
11-23-2011, 10:53 PM
I guess one could say Cassel hits 10 on the suck-o-meter Orton only a 9. Not really getting much of improvement but okay.

Cassel is out for the year. If he wasn't, I the move wouldn't matter.

jhns
11-23-2011, 11:01 PM
You're clearly brilliant. Mensa level genius. Whine, moan, and complain about how awful Orton is for over a year and then whine, moan, and complain when we cut him and the Chiefs pick him up. If Orton is even remotely as awful as you've been saying so adamantly (and annoyingly) for so long then why would you possibly care? I've got a good blog post for you:

http://www.endingthegrind.com/7-habits-highly-miserable-people/

You cry and claim conspiracy. I state facts.

Atwater His Ass
11-23-2011, 11:12 PM
Orton, as horrible as he's been, is better than Quinn. If Tebow got hurt, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to go back to the offense that Orton runs, since obviously he can't run Tebow's offense.

How anyone can see this as a win for the Broncos is beyond me. Should have let him rot on the roster, ready for spot duty, then to improve a divisional team that is competing with us for a playoff spot. Makes zero sense. If $2 million and change makes or breaks Bowlen, we got a lot bigger problems to deal with...

It's just embarassing how the FO has dealt with this. How many teams have ever let their starting QB of the season leave for no compensation? Just cut them? Incredible.

Rolandftw
11-23-2011, 11:25 PM
You mean we sign a starting QB this year and if/when? he leaves for FA in 6 weeks we get a comp draft pick? Wow that's a win-win if I've ever seen it.

There's no guarantee KC even gets a comp pick. There'e only 32 of them I think, and it's based on his first season with the new team that he signs with (assuming KC doesn't lock Orton up to a 6 year $60 million extension of course).

What if he doesn't fare particularly well, and only gets an offer to be another teams backup? He hypothetically never gets a start. You really think the Chiefs will be awarded one of the 32 compensatory picks? I highly doubt it.

Of course, Orton could sign in Seattle and start all 16 games and lead them to an 8-8 record or something... and KC would probably get a decent compensatory pick, but it certainly isn't a given and isn't the only possibility.

cutthemdown
11-23-2011, 11:31 PM
That's why they signed him. He was the best available. We needed a QB with experience because KC has the toughest schedule left of any team. No losing teams on the schedule from here on out (as of now).

Broncos win by showing players they won't hold on to you when you have a chance to start and keep career going. When they are done with you they move one without playing games like Bengals etc etc.

Still though Orton vs the Broncos is going to be classic. We though we were getting a showdown with Cutler, now its Orton lol.

Whatever the real story is Chiefs not on the upswing any longer, the yr a bust, not going to playoffs, coach could be fired, best offensive player out for yr and will have to try and make a comeback.

canadianbroncosfan
11-24-2011, 12:06 AM
Orton, as horrible as he's been, is better than Quinn. If Tebow got hurt, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to go back to the offense that Orton runs, since obviously he can't run Tebow's offense.

How anyone can see this as a win for the Broncos is beyond me. Should have let him rot on the roster, ready for spot duty, then to improve a divisional team that is competing with us for a playoff spot. Makes zero sense. If $2 million and change makes or breaks Bowlen, we got a lot bigger problems to deal with...

It's just embarassing how the FO has dealt with this. How many teams have ever let their starting QB of the season leave for no compensation? Just cut them? Incredible.

Oh they'd have to change back to his offense, but even with that he wasn't winning. If Tebow goes down, that would likely end our season anyways because neither can win. I am almost wondering what motivation, other than money, there was. I'm certain there has to be something, maybe he's a cancer, maybe he's just generally a whiney bitch. I look at everytime Orton was starting and was meeting with either McCoy or Gase, both Tebow and Quinn were in there trying to learn and see what's going on. I haven't really seen Orton show any interest in what's going on at all. I don't buy that WE improved a divisional rival, yeah he was put on waivers however everyone thought this guy was going to make it all the way to Chicago which was third last in waiver order. I still don't think this move makes sense for KC to pick, he may help them win one more game than Palko however they still won't win the division, make the playoffs, and they'll end up picking later in the draft.

KCStud
11-24-2011, 12:23 AM
There's no guarantee KC even gets a comp pick. There'e only 32 of them I think, and it's based on his first season with the new team that he signs with (assuming KC doesn't lock Orton up to a 6 year $60 million extension of course).

What if he doesn't fare particularly well, and only gets an offer to be another teams backup? He hypothetically never gets a start. You really think the Chiefs will be awarded one of the 32 compensatory picks? I highly doubt it.

Of course, Orton could sign in Seattle and start all 16 games and lead them to an 8-8 record or something... and KC would probably get a decent compensatory pick, but it certainly isn't a given and isn't the only possibility.

That may be true, but Orton is the best QB available right now to give the team the best chance of winning. He's an average QB, but he's a huge upgrade over Palko and Stanzi who have 1 game starting experience combined.

Orton would be a good backup next year. I don't see Cassel staying because he's due 5.25 million next season.
I think Pioli is gonna draft a QB. I wouldn't mind Orton starting until a rookie takes over.

Shananahan
11-24-2011, 12:29 AM
You mean we sign a starting QB this year and if/when? he leaves for FA in 6 weeks we get a comp draft pick? Wow that's a win-win if I've ever seen it.
Explain to me, based on how the comp. system works, why you would be expecting to receive one if/when Orton leaves KC.

Rolandftw
11-24-2011, 12:46 AM
That may be true, but Orton is the best QB available right now to give the team the best chance of winning. He's an average QB, but he's a huge upgrade over Palko and Stanzi who have 1 game starting experience combined.

Orton would be a good backup next year. I don't see Cassel staying because he's due 5.25 million next season.
I think Pioli is gonna draft a QB. I wouldn't mind Orton starting until a rookie takes over.

Oh, I agree it's a good move for KC. And potentially, it could be a disaster for Denver. Can't think of a worse scenario then Denver having a playoff spot on the line, and getting beat by KC in Denver. Opens the front office to heavy criticism as well.

Orton could stay next year in KC if he's the starter, if the price is right. I don't know if he'd want to deal with another QB controversy for the next season or two (if KC takes a QB that isn't ready to contribute yet).

With all that said, don't think it really impacts the Chiefs record too much this season. It's probably as likely that it helps Denver (KC beating Oakland) as it is it hurts them (KC winning in Denver).

As far as compensation picks go, a lot of the media thinks that it's a guarantee that a compensation pick is coming (similar situation with Lloyd getting traded as well), and that is just not the case.

DBroncos4life
11-24-2011, 02:56 AM
Better than Elway. That's definitely fo sho!

Which GM is in last place?

TailgateNut
11-24-2011, 06:03 AM
Orton, as horrible as he's been, is better than Quinn. If Tebow got hurt, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to go back to the offense that Orton runs, since obviously he can't run Tebow's offense.

How anyone can see this as a win for the Broncos is beyond me. Should have let him rot on the roster, ready for spot duty, then to improve a divisional team that is competing with us for a playoff spot. Makes zero sense. If $2 million and change makes or breaks Bowlen, we got a lot bigger problems to deal with...

It's just embarassing how the FO has dealt with this. How many teams have ever let their starting QB of the season leave for no compensation? Just cut them? Incredible.


...and the Tebonites celebrate this move. ****ing morons from the very start. I curse the day we drafted him and I curse his congregation.

55CrushEm
11-24-2011, 07:03 AM
...and the Tebonites celebrate this move. ****ing morons from the very start. I curse the day we drafted him and I curse his congregation.

And the Christian-hating communist continues to spew venom at the hardest worker on the team....simply because he says he loves Jesus.

Shocker. ****ing moron.....from the very start.

DaFace
11-24-2011, 07:15 AM
As far as compensation picks go, a lot of the media thinks that it's a guarantee that a compensation pick is coming (similar situation with Lloyd getting traded as well), and that is just not the case.

While true, I do think it's fairly likely that a compensatory pick will be given for him IF he starts somewhere.

The formula is based on salary, playing time, and post-season honors. I doubt Orton will be going to the Pro Bowl any time soon, but QBs are paid more than any other position, so if he 1) gets a modest QB salary somewhere and 2) starts, it's pretty much a lock that there will be a compensatory pick for him - probably a sixth or fifth rounder.

The only reason why it wouldn't is if he doesn't start (and isn't paid like a starter), which is possible, but there are a lot of really bad QBs in the league right now.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-24-2011, 08:02 AM
...and the Tebonites celebrate this move. ****ing morons from the very start. I curse the day we drafted him and I curse his congregation.

You'll get over it.

Gort
11-24-2011, 08:53 AM
And the Christian-hating communist continues to spew venom at the hardest worker on the team....simply because he says he loves Jesus.

Shocker. ****ing moron.....from the very start.

can you imagine having that guy as your neighbor?

ugh!

Dr. Broncenstein
11-24-2011, 08:58 AM
can you imagine having that guy as your neighbor?

ugh!

http://crossfitconfluence.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/twitter_full_cousin_eddie.jpg

Artist rendering of what that might look like.

/shiatter's full

Mile High Mojoe
11-24-2011, 09:00 AM
Orton, as horrible as he's been, is better than Quinn. If Tebow got hurt, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to go back to the offense that Orton runs, since obviously he can't run Tebow's offense.

How anyone can see this as a win for the Broncos is beyond me. Should have let him rot on the roster, ready for spot duty, then to improve a divisional team that is competing with us for a playoff spot. Makes zero sense. If $2 million and change makes or breaks Bowlen, we got a lot bigger problems to deal with...

It's just embarassing how the FO has dealt with this. How many teams have ever let their starting QB of the season leave for no compensation? Just cut them? Incredible.

You keep hammering this home but I just don't believe even had Orton stayed or even came back in and played that he would have brought any compensation regardless. Not at the beginning of the season, not mid-season or the end of it. My guess is the FO made every possible attempt behind closed doors to make a trade with someone throughout and not a sole was biting on the sucker meat.

Why? Because at best heís a back-up on most teams and just doesnít have the skills to make even a crappy team like Miami better. Both the Dolphins and the Chiefs have horrible OLís and without great protection Orton is a sack, fumble or INT away from happening. Iím amazed how quickly every Orton supporter forgets how horrible of a fraud he was and still is. One the biggest flaws in his game are as soon as someone lays a fingernail on him he goes into the ground hog mode and goes the turf. Joe Namath, even Craig Morton both with horrible knees had better feet that Orton.

The only reason he had any success in Chicago is because he had a better than average OL protecting him. The Bears also had a descent running game that gave him some opportunities to make plays but he was not and still is not a QB that should be a starter for any NFL team. Iíve been playing fantasy football for 16 years and Orton even in Chicago was no starter with his numbers.

Iím glad heís gone, he had zero value sitting on the bench with a uniform on collecting a biggest paycheck ever given to a guy who was lucky to even by drafted into the NFL. Quinn or even Weber at this point are worth a look should Tebow falter. Iím of the opinion he wonít.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-24-2011, 09:09 AM
The only thing dumber than paying seven million dollars for an non-productive loser with his foot out the door: paying nine million dollars for the exact same thing. Bonus points for sending a Trojan horse to a division rival.

Rolandftw
11-24-2011, 10:37 AM
While true, I do think it's fairly likely that a compensatory pick will be given for him IF he starts somewhere.

The formula is based on salary, playing time, and post-season honors. I doubt Orton will be going to the Pro Bowl any time soon, but QBs are paid more than any other position, so if he 1) gets a modest QB salary somewhere and 2) starts, it's pretty much a lock that there will be a compensatory pick for him - probably a sixth or fifth rounder.

The only reason why it wouldn't is if he doesn't start (and isn't paid like a starter), which is possible, but there are a lot of really bad QBs in the league right now.

Seattle and Washington are the only teams I could see adding Orton being the likely starter. And that's only if either team avoid taking a QB early in the draft.

Cleveland and Miami could bring him in to compete with their current starter.

Personally, I see Orton signing with a better team in a backup role. Can't imagine him wanting to deal with a QB controversy going to a team with a young QB. Think he's going to want to go to a team that has more talent around it, so he has a better chance of success (if and when he ever starts). Don't think he'd mind being in one city for three years in a backup capacity honestly.

Course if he plays well for KC the last 5 games, then there's a decent chance KC signs him to a deal and cuts bait with Cassel.

broncswin
11-24-2011, 10:38 AM
...and the Tebonites celebrate this move. ****ing morons from the very start. I curse the day we drafted him and I curse his congregation.

wow...just wow TGN...dude you need to calm down a little bit, your a better poster than this. This guy work his balls off, give him a chance...I am not a tebonite, but I sure as hell would love to see Tebow become a stud for us. I don't want to start all over with another QB...I know you don't like his belief system, but dude it is football...not like you have to live with him everyday...just sayin

Pick Six
11-24-2011, 10:40 AM
He's a Chief, so I must now wish him ill will. I wish I didn't have to do that. Thanks, EFX...:nutkick

barryr
11-24-2011, 10:40 AM
You keep hammering this home but I just don't believe even had Orton stayed or even came back in and played that he would have brought any compensation regardless. Not at the beginning of the season, not mid-season or the end of it. My guess is the FO made every possible attempt behind closed doors to make a trade with someone throughout and not a sole was biting on the sucker meat.

Why? Because at best heís a back-up on most teams and just doesnít have the skills to make even a crappy team like Miami better. Both the Dolphins and the Chiefs have horrible OLís and without great protection Orton is a sack, fumble or INT away from happening. Iím amazed how quickly every Orton supporter forgets how horrible of a fraud he was and still is. One the biggest flaws in his game are as soon as someone lays a fingernail on him he goes into the ground hog mode and goes the turf. Joe Namath, even Craig Morton both with horrible knees had better feet that Orton.

The only reason he had any success in Chicago is because he had a better than average OL protecting him. The Bears also had a descent running game that gave him some opportunities to make plays but he was not and still is not a QB that should be a starter for any NFL team. Iíve been playing fantasy football for 16 years and Orton even in Chicago was no starter with his numbers.

Iím glad heís gone, he had zero value sitting on the bench with a uniform on collecting a biggest paycheck ever given to a guy who was lucky to even by drafted into the NFL. Quinn or even Weber at this point are worth a look should Tebow falter. Iím of the opinion he wonít.

I agree. Orton knew his career with the Broncos was short after they tried trading him before the season and he played like it. He was of no value with the poor way he played and the way the team was lifeless with him starting. The rest of the team knew his time was short, as did Lloyd and they dealt him too.

Meck77
11-24-2011, 10:45 AM
It's a perfect match. Crappy town, crappy team, crap QB.

broncswin
11-24-2011, 10:46 AM
It's a perfect match. Crappy town, crappy team, crap QB.

should have been the first post in this thread...:strong: ^5

KCStud
11-24-2011, 11:17 AM
Which GM is in last place?

The GM that has his top 2 draft picks on IR like the rest of his core players.

DBroncos4life
11-24-2011, 11:19 AM
The GM that has his top 2 draft picks on IR like the rest of his core players.

Oh so ours is better. Thanks for letting me know.

Gort
11-24-2011, 11:39 AM
http://crossfitconfluence.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/twitter_full_cousin_eddie.jpg

Artist rendering of what that might look like.

/shiatter's full

there is only one rational thing for TGN's neighbors to do...

http://www.jrdkirk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Home-For-Sale-Sign.jpg

Shananahan
11-24-2011, 11:47 AM
wow...just wow TGN...dyour a better poster than this.
Prove it.

eddie mac
11-24-2011, 11:55 AM
You mean we sign a starting QB this year and if/when? he leaves for FA in 6 weeks we get a comp draft pick? Wow that's a win-win if I've ever seen it.

The comp pick as always depends on FA's in and out, contract and play. You may well get a pick in 2013 but if history is anything to go by you'll get better/even more picks via trade with Orton playing in your remaining 6 games cos you'll lose every one of them and draft in the top 10.Hilarious!

Agamemnon
11-24-2011, 12:11 PM
The GM that has his top 2 draft picks on IR like the rest of his core players.

You guys were getting embarrassed regularly before those guys went out. C'mon now.

Bronx33
11-24-2011, 12:21 PM
The only thing dumber than paying seven million dollars for an non-productive loser with his foot out the door: paying nine million dollars for the exact same thing. Bonus points for sending a Trojan horse to a division rival.



We learned this from belicheat.

KCStud
11-24-2011, 12:30 PM
Oh so ours is better. Thanks for letting me know.

Oh do explain. This should be good.

KCStud
11-24-2011, 12:32 PM
You guys were getting embarrassed regularly before those guys went out. C'mon now.

Berry got injured on the 4th play of the season opener. Moeaki got injured in the 3rd preseason game. Charles got injured in the opening series of the 2nd game of the season.

Hard to replace two All-Pro's and the guy with the best hands on the team.

Bronx33
11-24-2011, 12:34 PM
Berry got injured on the 4th play of the season opener. Moeaki got injured in the 3rd preseason game. Charles got injured in the opening series of the 2nd game of the season.

Losing Eric Berry is like the Broncos losing Von Miller. Huge impact.


A team has to move on and adjust or you just start mailing it in.

eddie mac
11-24-2011, 12:37 PM
Berry got injured on the 4th play of the season opener. Moeaki got injured in the 3rd preseason game. Charles got injured in the opening series of the 2nd game of the season.

Hard to replace two All-Pro's and the guy with the best hands on the team.

All pro's??? Decent players but do me a favour, they are not the best at their respective positions in the league.

KCStud
11-24-2011, 12:38 PM
A team has to move on and adjust or you just start mailing it in.

I agree, though I don't think Pioli or Haley especially should be receiving the amount of heat for this that they are getting.
I think Pioli has done a great job so far. He is slowly building a good team.
You look at the roster now compared to when he got here and it's miles better.

Tombstone RJ
11-24-2011, 12:41 PM
You mean we sign a starting QB this year and if/when? he leaves for FA in 6 weeks we get a comp draft pick? Wow that's a win-win if I've ever seen it.

:yayaya:

KCStud
11-24-2011, 12:42 PM
All pro's??? Decent players but do me a favour, they are not the best at their respective positions in the league.

A rookie pro bowl safety that most people think was the third best behind Reed and Polamalu and a RB that got 6.4 YPC and was considered the most electric RB of the year are tough pieces to lose from a team.
I think most people thought their play last year was top 5 at their respective positions.

Agamemnon
11-24-2011, 02:42 PM
So when you guys keep sucking with those guys back what will your excuse be then?

Gort
11-24-2011, 02:52 PM
A rookie pro bowl safety that most people think was the third best behind Reed and Polamalu and a RB that got 6.4 YPC and was considered the most electric RB of the year are tough pieces to lose from a team.
I think most people thought their play last year was top 5 at their respective positions.

shouldn't you be on a Chefs board today talking with other Chefs fans on either a) how to get oil stains out of your concrete driveway, or b) where's a good place to sleep tonight after accidentally burning down your mobile home trying to deep fry a turkey?

DBroncos4life
11-24-2011, 02:59 PM
Oh do explain. This should be good.

Did you forget how to check the standings?

Rolandftw
11-24-2011, 03:04 PM
A rookie pro bowl safety that most people think was the third best behind Reed and Polamalu and a RB that got 6.4 YPC and was considered the most electric RB of the year are tough pieces to lose from a team.
I think most people thought their play last year was top 5 at their respective positions.

They were big injuries, but overall don't think they really would have changed KC's overall record much. KC's been blown out in 4 of their 6 losses anyways.

Charles is a good back, but not an every down back (10-15 carries max imo) and he definitely benefited from KC's soft schedule last year as well.

Agamemnon
11-24-2011, 06:23 PM
shouldn't you be on a Chefs board today talking with other Chefs fans on either a) how to get oil stains out of your concrete driveway, or b) where's a good place to sleep tonight after accidentally burning down your mobile home trying to deep fry a turkey?

Hilarious!

Dagmar
11-24-2011, 06:25 PM
...and the Tebonites celebrate this move. ****ing morons from the very start. I curse the day we drafted him and I curse his congregation.

What a delight.

broncosteven
11-24-2011, 06:53 PM
Did anyone cover why Miami or even St. Louis passed on Orton? I am not reading through the whole thread.