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smoke4815162342
11-22-2011, 12:59 PM
Adam Schefter tweets:

Filed to ESPN: Denver Broncos waived quarterback Kyle Orton today.

https://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 01:01 PM
O.M.G.

go_broncos
11-22-2011, 01:02 PM
so much for the package..

tebowisdabomb
11-22-2011, 01:02 PM
Wow.... Chiefs would be stupid not to pick him up...

CEH
11-22-2011, 01:02 PM
They will let him go to CHI and come back and beat Denver.

What about the Comeback Package?

Stagger Lee
11-22-2011, 01:03 PM
Does this help them financially at all? aren't they still on the hook for his full salary this year?

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 01:03 PM
I wonder if it has anything to do with wanting to evaluate Weber, or keeping other teams from signing him off the practice squad? Also, holy balls.

JJG
11-22-2011, 01:03 PM
or the bears

Simple Jake
11-22-2011, 01:03 PM
He will be in Chicago or KFC.. calling it now

Houshyamama
11-22-2011, 01:03 PM
So long neckbeard, may your travels be filled with whiskey.

DBroncos4life
11-22-2011, 01:03 PM
Why waive a guy when TWO teams we have to face need a QB and another one in a playoff race needs a QB (Texans). Poor timing IMO.

Lolad
11-22-2011, 01:03 PM
I guess this is so he can find a job

epicSocialism4tw
11-22-2011, 01:03 PM
There goes the Bill Cowher package.

SureShot
11-22-2011, 01:03 PM
Wow.... Chiefs would be stupid not to pick him up...


Oh yes please. Von vs the Sloth would be awesome.

vonqkilla
11-22-2011, 01:03 PM
That was stupid. Now chi will beat us with him. Wtf

DomCasual
11-22-2011, 01:03 PM
Man, I just ordered my Orton jersey.

Seriously, I wonder why this happened now.

Ray Finkle
11-22-2011, 01:03 PM
Wow...

Too bad this team doesn't support Tebow and was working on the Mighty Orton Flying Wing package.

Stagger Lee
11-22-2011, 01:03 PM
Wouldn't be surprised at either the chiefs or the bears. Seems like strange timing to release him.

WolfpackGuy
11-22-2011, 01:04 PM
What a great trade that was!!!

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 01:04 PM
Best chance to win.

BabyTO
11-22-2011, 01:05 PM
haha. **** you kyle.

epicSocialism4tw
11-22-2011, 01:05 PM
Is this Bowlen stepping in and putting the final word in on Tebow?

Ray Finkle
11-22-2011, 01:05 PM
wonder if some team wanted Weber....

Jesterhole
11-22-2011, 01:05 PM
WTF for? Was having him on the team still a distraction? What if Tebow gets hurt, who backs up Quinn?

AAAAnd, the front office continues to fail, fail, fail. I'm more sure about Tebow's future in this league than Elways...

broncolife
11-22-2011, 01:05 PM
Why waive a guy when TWO teams we have to face need a QB and another one in a playoff race needs a QB (Texans). Poor timing IMO.

ditto

CEH
11-22-2011, 01:06 PM
Orton to CHI book it. Orton asked to be waived

Elway letting CHI help them beat Denver so he can keep Tebow down

WolfpackGuy
11-22-2011, 01:06 PM
Waive Quinn too.

Decker throws better than he does!

SureShot
11-22-2011, 01:06 PM
I hope Chi or KC picks him up. This makes for a great story line.

Gort
11-22-2011, 01:07 PM
Adam Schefter tweets:

Filed to ESPN: Denver Broncos waived quarterback Kyle Orton today.

https://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter

is this real life?

http://static.lifeislocal.com.au/multimedia/images/large/1298812.jpg

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 01:07 PM
I heard that the recent quarterback injuries have forced teams to try out the likes of Jeff Garcia and Brodie Croyle. Maybe someone came sniffing around Weber?

SureShot
11-22-2011, 01:07 PM
The question is will anyone pay him $2.5 mill for the rest of the year?

broncocalijohn
11-22-2011, 01:08 PM
I dont like it. Keep him on the roster just so Chiefs don't nab him or a team we are playing like Chicago. Many might not like him but he is better than what teams already have. Must be the "If he doesn't want to be here, let him go" philosophy.

What will TheElusiveKyleOrton do now? Maybe have a cry and hug meeting with Ferrottethenextelway.

Anyone guess those that play 99% in the Political Forums won't be commenting on this imporant news?

ludo21
11-22-2011, 01:08 PM
has to be money involved. Or else its just stupid to release him at this point in the year.

To finkle, you really think a team wants Weber this time of year?

Lolad
11-22-2011, 01:08 PM
I hope Chi or KC picks him up. This makes for a great story line.

This only adds fuel to the conspiracy fires. There is no way he should Have been released

broncolife
11-22-2011, 01:08 PM
Now that we are in the playoff hunt I dont like the idea of Quinn being our backup. I never really been a fan of Orton but he would have gave us the best chance to win :) if Tebow went down

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 01:08 PM
Dear Santa,

Please send Orton to Chicago. I've been a good boy.

Your pal

Doc B.

epicSocialism4tw
11-22-2011, 01:08 PM
The question is will anyone pay him $2.5 mill for the rest of the year?

I think that Chicago might; not sure about KC though.

frerottenextelway
11-22-2011, 01:08 PM
Smells like Bowlen. WTG!

RunSilentRunDeep
11-22-2011, 01:09 PM
WTF for? Was having him on the team still a distraction? What if Tebow gets hurt, who backs up Quinn?

AAAAnd, the front office continues to fail, fail, fail. I'm more sure about Tebow's future in this league than Elways...

If any team eases the pain of his salary, it's a big win.

DBroncos4life
11-22-2011, 01:09 PM
Wouldn't the Texans have first claim due to last years record? I think they would sign him first if they have the chance.

DrFate
11-22-2011, 01:09 PM
O.M.G.

this

frerottenextelway
11-22-2011, 01:09 PM
If Orton goes to Chi, who will start there when Cutler gets healthy?

Gort
11-22-2011, 01:10 PM
Dear Santa,

Please send Orton to Chicago. I've been a good boy.

Your pal

Doc B.

anybody else think that maybe Xanders and Elway have broken into Bowlen's liquor cabinet today?

tebowisdabomb
11-22-2011, 01:10 PM
Waived the only QB on your roster

epicSocialism4tw
11-22-2011, 01:10 PM
Houston is another option.

Gort
11-22-2011, 01:10 PM
Wouldn't the Texans have first claim due to last years record? I think they would sign him first if they have the chance.

i'd be ok if this was a move to help Kubes hold onto his 1st place spot.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 01:11 PM
If Orton goes to Chi, who will start there when Cutler gets healthy?

Who cares? How awesomely awkward will those quarterback meetings be? Also, I can't wait to pencil in a win against the Orton led Bears.

broncolife
11-22-2011, 01:11 PM
Imagine the heat the broncos are going to take from the media if Orton does good with his new team.

WolfpackGuy
11-22-2011, 01:11 PM
Orton would die behind that line and playcalling in Chicago.

Peoples Champ
11-22-2011, 01:11 PM
im so glad they didnt take the 3rd round pick from Miami at the beginning of the year (sarcastic)

oubronco
11-22-2011, 01:12 PM
Do you guys really think anybody wants Orton after seeing him shyt the bed time after time

SureShot
11-22-2011, 01:12 PM
Smart move. High QB demand and why pay that much for a QB that wont play again for you this year?

CEH
11-22-2011, 01:12 PM
Thanks Elway you just gave KC or CHI another coach to help gameplan against Denver. Yah I know it 's not that hard to gameplan for 8 passes a game but damn we are right in the playoff hunt.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 01:12 PM
Imagine the heat the broncos are going to take from the media if Orton does good with his new team.

Imagine a flock of monkeys flying out of your ass.

theStifmeister
11-22-2011, 01:12 PM
don't care, I've seen him play, he isn't winning ****

epicSocialism4tw
11-22-2011, 01:13 PM
Orton would die behind that line and playcalling in Chicago.

This is why I hope that he gets his first start in Chicago against Denver.

razorwire77
11-22-2011, 01:13 PM
Please go back to the Bears, please go back to the Bears. How awkwardly hilarious and awesome would Tebow vs. Kyle Orton be?

crush17
11-22-2011, 01:13 PM
Ok so even if he DOES go to Chi, he wont be starting. Its just insurance. KC is more likely.

gyldenlove
11-22-2011, 01:13 PM
Who cares? How awesomely awkward will those quarterback meetings be? Also, I can't wait to pencil in a win against the Orton led Bears.

**** penciling, we need to put that sucker down in permanent marker.

beardedwonder
11-22-2011, 01:13 PM
Yea chi isn't a good fit.. if he goes there our pass rush will single handedly win that game

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-22-2011, 01:13 PM
Man, I just ordered my Orton jersey.

Seriously, I wonder why this happened now.

He probably asked for a trade. He knows he's not going to be their first option, even if Tim gets hurt, and there are a few teams in need of a veteran, game-manager QB.

I think he'll be hired on somewhere by the weekend, possibly starting by next week.

So long, Kyle. Glad your nightmare of this fanbase is over.

Bronco Yoda
11-22-2011, 01:13 PM
Glad to see we got our usual kick ass compensation. Well played...

Gort
11-22-2011, 01:14 PM
Who cares? How awesomely awkward will those quarterback meetings be? Also, I can't wait to pencil in a win against the Orton led Bears.

Orton gives the Bears opponents the best chance to win.

mkporter
11-22-2011, 01:14 PM
has to be money involved. Or else its just stupid to release him at this point in the year.



Agreed. I wonder if Orton agreed to settle his contract to be released?

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 01:14 PM
Thanks Elway you just gave KC or CHI another coach to help gameplan against Denver. Yah I know it 's not that hard to gameplan for 8 passes a game but damn we are right in the playoff hunt.

We run a high school scheme. You think they need Orton to point out the intricacies?

SureShot
11-22-2011, 01:14 PM
Thanks Elway you just gave KC or CHI another coach to help gameplan against Denver. Yah I know it 's not that hard to gameplan for 8 passes a game but damn we are right in the playoff hunt.

True. Orton holds all the secrets to the zone read offense.

broncocalijohn
11-22-2011, 01:14 PM
Who cares? How awesomely awkward will those quarterback meetings be? Also, I can't wait to pencil in a win against the Orton led Bears.

Why Leinart brings the chicks and beer bong and Orton brings the Whiskey and Scotch. Match made in heaven.

Lolad
11-22-2011, 01:14 PM
im so glad they didnt take the 3rd round pick from Miami at the beginning of the year (sarcastic)

Idk. This FO just paid millions and stunted Tebows growth and waived the player that could have given them a draft pick

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-22-2011, 01:14 PM
This is why I hope that he gets his first start in Chicago against Denver.

Because you want him to die?

Keep it classy, epicFAILUREasachristianandaperson

broncolife
11-22-2011, 01:15 PM
Imagine a flock of monkeys flying out of your ass.

Do I get lube?

Gort
11-22-2011, 01:15 PM
He probably asked for a trade. He knows he's not going to be their first option, even if Tim gets hurt, and there are a few teams in need of a veteran, game-manager QB.

I think he'll be hired on somewhere by the weekend, possibly starting by next week.

So long, Kyle. Glad your nightmare of this fanbase is over.

you could leave too, and end our nightmare.

just sayin'.

oubronco
11-22-2011, 01:15 PM
We run a high school scheme. You think they need Orton to point out the intricacies?

LOL So true

bendog
11-22-2011, 01:15 PM
yeah right. If Tebow is so good, it's really detrimental to Den's chances to win games by cutting the third string qb. Classy move to let the guy find a job and possibly enhance his contract status for 2012

Kaylore
11-22-2011, 01:15 PM
Wow. Well we know what the front office thinks of him now...

conrad7120
11-22-2011, 01:15 PM
Would we not have recieved a compensatory draft pick if he left via free agency????

SouthStndJunkie
11-22-2011, 01:16 PM
My guess is that a team was ready to sign Adam Weber off Denver's practice squad.

I think Denver is intrigued by his potential.

DrFate
11-22-2011, 01:16 PM
What happened to the rumors that once his kid was born he wanted to play out the season in Denver and would 'play nice' and mentor Tebow?

epicSocialism4tw
11-22-2011, 01:16 PM
True. Orton holds all the secrets to the zone read offense.

LOL

Well, he definitely knows how to stop it. ;D

SouthStndJunkie
11-22-2011, 01:16 PM
I hope Kansas City signs his sorry slow sloth ass.

broncolife
11-22-2011, 01:17 PM
If he went to bears it would open some new topics

Orton vs Cutler with the same team

Orton vs Tebow

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 01:17 PM
http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/files/2010/12/mcdaniels.jpg

Gort
11-22-2011, 01:17 PM
Do you guys really think anybody wants Orton after seeing him shyt the bed time after time

somebody wanted McNabb.

so, yes.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-22-2011, 01:17 PM
you could leave too, and end our nightmare.

just sayin'.

And you could grow a brain. Neither is likely to happen.

Rigs11
11-22-2011, 01:17 PM
Wow, not a smart move. Why would you get rid of the only competent backup we have?mcdaniels like move

Bronco Yoda
11-22-2011, 01:17 PM
is this real life?

http://static.lifeislocal.com.au/multimedia/images/large/1298812.jpg

...I stopped asking this when we let Lloyd walk. I would have rather sat his pouty ass on the bench for spite. See how that would have increase his value next year.

oubronco
11-22-2011, 01:18 PM
Ridding themselves of yet another McDumbass player

SureShot
11-22-2011, 01:18 PM
http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/files/2010/12/mcdaniels.jpg


Is that Orton laying in the fetal position in the back seat? Nice of McD to come get the rest of his ****.

Gort
11-22-2011, 01:18 PM
What happened to the rumors that once his kid was born he wanted to play out the season in Denver and would 'play nice' and mentor Tebow?

it was a misunderstanding.

by mentor, he meant stay away from him and ignore him and not make eye contact.

DrFate
11-22-2011, 01:19 PM
It makes sense that he would ask for this, with Schaub and Cutler and Vick on the bench with injuries.

broncocalijohn
11-22-2011, 01:19 PM
He probably asked for a trade. He knows he's not going to be their first option, even if Tim gets hurt, and there are a few teams in need of a veteran, game-manager QB.

I think he'll be hired on somewhere by the weekend, possibly starting by next week.

So long, Kyle. Glad your nightmare of this fanbase is over.

Can someone get the number for our former member Cutlerfan right now? I think Elusive needs some help transforming on to his next forum.

Paladin
11-22-2011, 01:19 PM
It is possible that Orton asked to be waived, so he may have negotiated a settlement on his guaranteed money. The man wants to play ball, but he is a millionaire now, some of which he brought with him from Chicago. It is certain that he is not coming back to Denver next year. So, it makes sense for him to want out now. Whether he signs with any other club is his business. If the hecklers around here did not think he was good for Denver, then I don't understand why anyone would give a crap what he does.

For my part, I think Orton did the best he could with a difficult situation. He did not begt to come here although he did seem to think the Denver gig would be better than the Chicago pits. He had no D support, no RB support, a difficult O to learn, spolied and unruly insesistive and insultive butt-hurt fans, a new Oline, and a very unsettled organizational situation to deal with along with injuries. I don't believe he was the right guy for this team going forward, because the butt-hurt Cutler fanatics and McD haters would not have allowed him a decent chance to do it. Further, I think Orton has every right to think very bad thoughts about the Denver fans and the organization. Good luck Kyle, and thanks for your efforts.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 01:19 PM
Teams are desperate with the recent injuries. I believe I heard that Houston pulled Jeff Garcia out of an actual shuffleboard game to see if he had anything left in the tank. Someone will snatch up Orton. For the lulz, I hope it's Chicago.

oubronco
11-22-2011, 01:19 PM
Well we did have to get better in the passing game according to Elway

HILife
11-22-2011, 01:20 PM
smokescreen.

EDIT: Seriously, why?

Gort
11-22-2011, 01:20 PM
And you could grow a brain. Neither is likely to happen.

brains are overrated.

especially yours.

BroncoBeavis
11-22-2011, 01:21 PM
Oh no. What if Orton gives another team useful insight into the Broncos' option offe.... oh, wait WTF am I saying :D

Popps
11-22-2011, 01:22 PM
http://www.footiewallpapers.com/pics/v/i/vince-lombardi-trophy-405x337px.jpg

Drunk Monkey
11-22-2011, 01:23 PM
You clowns crack me up. You bitch about pocket sloth to no end, slow, fetal all around crap. You now bitch that someone we play may enlist the fetal crap. I am sticking with my original assessment that the dude sucks. Palko, Orton what ever. We got this. And of course it is about money. If someone else picks up the 2.5 still owed to sloth then our FO is all over it.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-22-2011, 01:23 PM
Can someone get the number for our former member Cutlerfan right now? I think Elusive needs some help transforming on to his next forum.

Since you've apparently been living under a rock, I'll explain this for your stupid ass.

I'm not going anywhere. The Broncos are my team. I root for the uniform, and by extension, the players IN the uniform, not the other way around.

I know you're a stupid ****. I know this. You have the intellect of that bowling ball you used to have in your picture. But try to wrap your head around the fact that I'm not going anywhere.

Rigs11
11-22-2011, 01:23 PM
Oh no. What if Orton gives another team useful insight into the Broncos' option offe.... oh, wait WTF am I saying :D

Ha!

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-22-2011, 01:24 PM
brains are overrated.

especially yours.

How would you know?

DrFate
11-22-2011, 01:24 PM
But try to wrap your head around the fact that I'm not going anywhere.

Wrong - you are going on the ignore list.

epicSocialism4tw
11-22-2011, 01:24 PM
It is possible that Orton asked to be waived, so he may have negotiated a settlement on his guaranteed money. The man wants to play ball, but he is a millionaire now, some of which he brought with him from Chicago. It is certain that he is not coming back to Denver next year. So, it makes sense for him to want out now. Whether he signs with any other club is his business. If the hecklers around here did not think he was good for Denver, then I don't understand why anyone would give a crap what he does.

For my part, I think Orton did the best he could with a difficult situation. He did not begt to come here although he did seem to think the Denver gig would be better than the Chicago pits. He had no D support, no RB support, a difficult O to learn, spolied and unruly insesistive and insultive butt-hurt fans, a new Oline, and a very unsettled organizational situation to deal with along with injuries. I don't believe he was the right guy for this team going forward, because the butt-hurt Cutler fanatics and McD haters would not have allowed him a decent chance to do it. Further, I think Orton has every right to think very bad thoughts about the Denver fans and the organization. Good luck Kyle, and thanks for your efforts.

Thanks for losing, Kyle. Don't forget to take your 200 yards of passing after we're down 20 points with you on your way out.

DenverBroncosJM
11-22-2011, 01:25 PM
From trade to Miami to starting and best chance to win, to being benched and finally to being released.

Is it poetic that the Screw all the fans that are not Elway fans thread is started on the same day?

We will not even get a Comp pick now will we?

Durango
11-22-2011, 01:25 PM
has to be money involved. Or else its just stupid to release him at this point in the year.

To finkle, you really think a team wants Weber this time of year?

Almost without question, although there is absolutely no way Orton could realistically run this weird option-style-wildcat-flavored offense . I'm not really sure Quinn could either, but he's not pulling down 9 million bucks in salary.

I was wondering when and if this might happen, although I thought Ortons departure would be through a trade of some kind before the deadline.

epicSocialism4tw
11-22-2011, 01:26 PM
smokescreen.

EDIT: Seriously, why?

2.5 million dollars ain't pennies.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-22-2011, 01:26 PM
Wrong - you are going on the ignore list.

GASP.

/doesn't care

Rolandftw
11-22-2011, 01:26 PM
Good move by the Broncos. Gives Orton a chance to start somewhere else, and it's an audition for Orton's free agency. Team like the Chiefs could pick him up.

beardedwonder
11-22-2011, 01:26 PM
Texans are knocking on his door already

WolfpackGuy
11-22-2011, 01:26 PM
All kidding aside, unless he was chittin in Tebow's locker daily, I don't understand the move.

Why let someone else pick him up, and why not hang onto him for the compensation pick?

vonqkilla
11-22-2011, 01:27 PM
So effin dumb, que up conspiracy threads....

Wtf is going on in dove valley.

epicSocialism4tw
11-22-2011, 01:27 PM
Wrong - you are going on the ignore list.

It will make your experience much better here. Believe me.

Gort
11-22-2011, 01:27 PM
How would you know?

all they want is brains. look what it's done for them.

http://chud.com/articles/content_images/0NICK2/friendship3.jpg

DrFate
11-22-2011, 01:27 PM
I don't understand the move.

I'd guess he requested it due to the injuries to other starters looking to make the playoffs. The Broncos see a way for someone else to pick up a couple $Mil of salary.

win-win

BroncoBeavis
11-22-2011, 01:27 PM
I don't believe he was the right guy for this team going forward, because the butt-hurt Cutler fanatics and McD haters would not have allowed him a decent chance to do it.

I'd say for the draft compensation the Bears gave us for Cutler, in addition to Orton, they regarded Orton as loose change. He hasn't done much in Denver to improve on that take. He's not a #1 QB. Could be a good backup somewhere

He was a stopgap when he was brought in. Unfortunately, our organization sold a different story. But I don't blame Orton for any of it.

DBroncos4life
11-22-2011, 01:27 PM
Does this count for the FO backing Tebow at all?

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 01:28 PM
If he's starting for the Bears when they come to town, he really does give the Broncos the best chance to win.

broncolife
11-22-2011, 01:28 PM
I really dont see how this benifits this team. You dont get rid of Veteran qb that was your first stringer at the begining of the season to see what you got in a practice squad player while your in a playoff hunt.If they did this when we were 1-4 I wouldnt question it at all but this is wierd timing. If he asked to be released, tell him a simple no and thats it.

DrFate
11-22-2011, 01:28 PM
It will make your experience much better here. Believe me.

It's better already :welcome:

DenverBroncosJM
11-22-2011, 01:28 PM
Good move by the Broncos. Gives Orton a chance to start somewhere else, and it's an audition for Orton's free agency. Team like the Chiefs could pick him up.

Could you explain how this is a good move for the broncos? Im curious to hear?

Blueflame
11-22-2011, 01:29 PM
Another McDaniels acquisition out the door. Oh well.

WolfpackGuy
11-22-2011, 01:29 PM
So will this be the move that launches a 1000 threads?

And again, what a great trade that was!!!

DrFate
11-22-2011, 01:29 PM
Could you explain how this is a good move for the broncos? Im curious to hear?

You let a guy go who isn't going to play, save some money, and he gets the chance to catch on with Houston or Chicago and maybe make a playoff run (to improve his value for 2012)

theAPAOps5
11-22-2011, 01:30 PM
Take that Cowher! IN YOUR FACE

broncocalijohn
11-22-2011, 01:30 PM
Since you've apparently been living under a rock, I'll explain this for your stupid ass.

I'm not going anywhere. The Broncos are my team. I root for the uniform, and by extension, the players IN the uniform, not the other way around.

I know you're a stupid ****. I know this. You have the intellect of that bowling ball you used to have in your picture. But try to wrap your head around the fact that I'm not going anywhere.

Look who is sooo angry. Surprised you didnt use caps. I know all of this. You need to just chill and take the ribbing. After all, you have "Kyle Orton" in your handle here! More you bitch about us ripping you, the more it will keep piling on.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 01:30 PM
Could you explain how this is a good move for the broncos? Im curious to hear?

Orton could wind up being the starter for the Bears. The Bears that have to come to Denver to play the Broncos in the near future. Moves don't get any better than that.

bronco0608
11-22-2011, 01:30 PM
Probably a backroom deal with the bears. Broncos waive him and the bears claim him picking up the rest
of his salary.

brom66an6
11-22-2011, 01:31 PM
All kidding aside, unless he was chittin in Tebow's locker daily, I don't understand the move.

Why let someone else pick him up, and why not hang onto him for the compensation pick?

That was my first thought about it is that we would have probably still received a comp pick after next year.

Paladin
11-22-2011, 01:31 PM
It will make your experience much better here. Believe me.

I know I enjoy it since I put you on ignore, including all your manifestations......

TheReverend
11-22-2011, 01:31 PM
http://instntrply.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/flynnbelt.gif

epicSocialism4tw
11-22-2011, 01:31 PM
If he's starting for the Bears when they come to town, he really does give the Broncos the best chance to win.

...and we've come full circle. Ha!

Bronco Vixen
11-22-2011, 01:31 PM
Someone or ones must have indicated to the FO that they'd pick him up off waivers and thus his remaining 2.5 mil. Hell that alone will cover our lucrative offer to a top FA next year!

jhns
11-22-2011, 01:31 PM
If he's starting for the Bears when they come to town, he really does give the Broncos the best chance to win.

LOL

Elway should use this spin.

oubronco
11-22-2011, 01:31 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfefunCXtn1qd2ktw.gif

HooptyHoops
11-22-2011, 01:32 PM
Just saw this.....wow, crazy! I am blown away!

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-22-2011, 01:32 PM
Look who is sooo angry. Surprised you didnt use caps. I know all of this. You need to just chill and take the ribbing. After all, you have "Kyle Orton" in your handle here! More you b**** about us ripping you, the more it will keep piling on.

Fair enough.

I expected this day, just not so soon. Glad it'll save the team a bit of cash.

epicSocialism4tw
11-22-2011, 01:32 PM
I know I enjoy it since I put you on ignore, including all your manifestations......

? Ha!

Gort
11-22-2011, 01:32 PM
Take that Cowher! IN YOUR FACE

medically speaking, Cowher doesn't have a face. he has a jaw. just 1 giant jaw. it's a condition known as Mandiblous Pompous Assus.

TheReverend
11-22-2011, 01:33 PM
Wouldn't the Texans have first claim due to last years record? I think they would sign him first if they have the chance.

No, at this point the waiver goes off current record.

Texans would be one of the last to take a shot.

BroncoBeavis
11-22-2011, 01:33 PM
Probably a backroom deal with the bears. Broncos waive him and the bears claim him picking up the rest
of his salary.

The Bears have to be towards the back end of the waiver wire though, so not sure what good any backroom deal would do.

My guess is the Broncos saw that a few teams suddenly need QB's, which made it more likely someone would pick up Orton's salary.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-22-2011, 01:33 PM
Probably a backroom deal with the bears. Broncos waive him and the bears claim him picking up the rest
of his salary.

What does the waiver list look like? Bears have 3 losses, same as Houston right ?

HILife
11-22-2011, 01:33 PM
http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/files/2010/12/mcdaniels.jpg

LMAO! I never get tired of this pic.

jhns
11-22-2011, 01:34 PM
Someone or ones must have indicated to the FO that they'd pick him up off waivers and thus his remaining 2.5 mil. Hell that alone will cover our lucrative offer to a top FA next year!

Does it even work like that after we cut him? Isn't that only if he is traded? I'm thinking a new team has to come up with their own contract.

DenverBroncosJM
11-22-2011, 01:34 PM
You let a guy go who isn't going to play, save some money, and he gets the chance to catch on with Houston or Chicago and maybe make a playoff run (to improve his value for 2012)

And lose out on a hmm 3rd or 4th round comp pick? If teams could buy comp picks dont you think they would line up to pay if it was 2.5 mill?

TheReverend
11-22-2011, 01:35 PM
Watch Miami pick him up LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

jonny1
11-22-2011, 01:35 PM
First of all, Miami and Orton killed the trade, so saying the front office gave away a draft pick is ridiculous.

Second, Orton's contract is over after this year, my understanding is that there would be no compensation picks for someone no longer under contract.

Mogulseeker
11-22-2011, 01:35 PM
I won't miss him, but frankly, I hope Orton doesn't end up on the Chiefs or Bears.... we play both teams, and Orton is a good QB. Better than Cassel... if he ends up on the Chiefs we'll have to face him twice a year.

TheReverend
11-22-2011, 01:36 PM
What does the waiver list look like? Bears have 3 losses, same as Houston right ?

Indy all the way down to GB.

KC will have a shot before Houston or Chicago. But Indy and Miami will have one before KC.

I bet no one even bothers.

Bronco Vixen
11-22-2011, 01:36 PM
Does it even work like that after we cut him? Isn't that only if he is traded? I'm thinking a new team has to come up with their own contract.

My understanding is that if someone picks him up off of waivers they are responsible for his remaining salary. If he clears, then a new contract is drawn and we'd still be stuck with his remaining salary.

Dagmar
11-22-2011, 01:36 PM
He probably asked for a trade. He knows he's not going to be their first option, even if Tim gets hurt, and there are a few teams in need of a veteran, game-manager QB.

I think he'll be hired on somewhere by the weekend, possibly starting by next week.

So long, Kyle. Glad your nightmare of this fanbase is over.

He asked for a trade after the deadline when he is a free agent at the end of the year??

Page 7, you've probably long answered this...

Hercules Rockefeller
11-22-2011, 01:36 PM
Probably a backroom deal with the bears. Broncos waive him and the bears claim him picking up the rest
of his salary.

How is that a backroom deal when whoever claims him off of waivers must pay the rest of his salary?

DenverBroncosJM
11-22-2011, 01:36 PM
First of all, Miami and Orton killed the trade, so saying the front office gave away a draft pick is ridiculous.

Second, Orton's contract is over after this year, my understanding is that there would be no compensation picks for someone no longer under contract.

He is a FA..meaning we would not sign him and someone else would. How do you get comp picks for people under contract?

DBroncos4life
11-22-2011, 01:37 PM
What does the waiver list look like? Bears have 3 losses, same as Houston right ?

I thought it went by last years record till you made a claim. I thought Texans would have first dibs on him. I could be wrong cause of the new rules.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-22-2011, 01:37 PM
He asked for a trade after the deadline when he is a free agent at the end of the year??

Page 7, you've probably long answered this...

Sorry. Typo.

Probably asked to be released. I'd guess his agent has something cooking for him. Nothing set in stone, just some "We'd like to get a look at Kyle/man I wish the trade deadline hadn't passed"-type stuff.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 01:37 PM
I won't miss him, but frankly, I hope Orton doesn't end up on the Chiefs or Bears.... we play both teams, and Orton is a good QB. Better than Cassel... if he ends up on the Chiefs we'll have to face him twice a year.

In my wildest dreams, we face any team with Orton at the helm twice per year.

ludo21
11-22-2011, 01:38 PM
Take that Cowher! IN YOUR FACE

LOL

Gort
11-22-2011, 01:38 PM
can somebody tell me if this move means it's MORE likely or LESS likely that the government has anti-gravity technology? or does this mean that Orton was an alien afterall? i'm confused.

http://blog.franciscocosta.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/tin-foil-hat.jpg

Hercules Rockefeller
11-22-2011, 01:38 PM
I thought it went by last years record till you made a claim. I thought Texans would have first dibs on him. I could be wrong cause of the new rules.

This isn't fantasy football.

It goes by current record right now.

DrFate
11-22-2011, 01:39 PM
And lose out on a hmm 3rd or 4th round comp pick? If teams could buy comp picks dont you think they would line up to pay if it was 2.5 mill?

We've seen a pattern where money means more than picks/players (or so the conspiracy theory goes)

There is also the idea of 'treating a player right' - if Orton went to the front office and said 'these guys are hurt, I can help CHI or HOU make the playoffs and help myself for next year', I can see a club letting him loose.

oubronco
11-22-2011, 01:39 PM
Watch Miami pick him up LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Exactly what I was thinking

TheReverend
11-22-2011, 01:39 PM
First of all, Miami and Orton killed the trade, so saying the front office gave away a draft pick is ridiculous.

Second, Orton's contract is over after this year, my understanding is that there would be no compensation picks for someone no longer under contract.

Poor understanding. That's exactly how you get compensatory picks.

That being said, Orton probably wouldn't have netted one in neither contract size nor performance.

Rolandftw
11-22-2011, 01:40 PM
Could you explain how this is a good move for the broncos? Im curious to hear?

It makes them look good to other players. Refusing to let a player go, that they didn't have any intent to use doesn't look good. Don't think Orton will make a huge difference on another team.

He'd be better in KC then Palko, but if we can't beat an Orton led Chiefs team at Mile High... probably don't deserve to be in the playoff conversation.

Lets them evaluate Weber a little more as well.

And it potentially saves $2.5 million or so. Not against the cap next year or anything but it's still money available to Bowlen that might make him more likely to spend more in free agency if a talented player is available and fits.

epicSocialism4tw
11-22-2011, 01:40 PM
I won't miss him, but frankly, I hope Orton doesn't end up on the Chiefs or Bears.... we play both teams, and Orton is a good QB. Better than Cassel... if he ends up on the Chiefs we'll have to face him twice a year.

It would be fantastic if the Broncos had to face the ruse known as Kyle Orton twice a year.

srphoenix
11-22-2011, 01:40 PM
It's ESPN but I'm guessing its info from Schefter:

With the emergence of Tim Tebow, Denver felt it wouldn't play Orton for the remainder of the season. Thus it decided to waive him now to see if another team would claim the $2.5 million remaining on his contract.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7270010/denver-broncos-waive-former-qb-starter-kyle-orton-source-says

Makes sense to me, glad he's gone. There was never a QB in the history of this team that made me less excited to watch the Broncos.

DBroncos4life
11-22-2011, 01:40 PM
This isn't fantasy football.

It goes by current record right now.

Then it's up till the season starts for last years record then right?

DrFate
11-22-2011, 01:40 PM
Kyle Orton > Caleb Hanie ?

IHaveALight
11-22-2011, 01:41 PM
Does this mean Tebow get's to call the coin tosses now? ???

Shotgun Willie
11-22-2011, 01:41 PM
it's still money available to Bowlen that might make him more likely to spend more in free agency if a talented player is available and fits.

Thanks for that. I needed the laugh.

jhns
11-22-2011, 01:41 PM
My understanding is that if someone picks him up off of waivers they are responsible for his remaining salary. If he clears, then a new contract is drawn and we'd still be stuck with his remaining salary.

Good for Bowlen if that is true. They have stated Quin is next in line anyways.

Blueflame
11-22-2011, 01:41 PM
The true question is: Can we maybe... possibly... stop talking about Orton now? ;D

TheReverend
11-22-2011, 01:42 PM
I thought it went by last years record till you made a claim. I thought Texans would have first dibs on him. I could be wrong cause of the new rules.

Again:

No, at this point the waiver goes off current record.

Texans would be one of the last to take a shot.

It INITIALLY starts with the previous years worst records, but a few weeks into the season it resets to current standings.

Hercules Rockefeller
11-22-2011, 01:42 PM
Then it's up till the season starts for last years record then right?

They use last season's record for the first 6 (I think) weeks of the season, then it moves to current season record to figure out waiver order.

jhns
11-22-2011, 01:43 PM
Does this mean Tebow get's to call the coin tosses now? ???

That is a good point. How will the new captain be selected? A new locker room poll?

Dedhed
11-22-2011, 01:43 PM
Does this put to rest the "Orton Package" discussion?

Rohirrim
11-22-2011, 01:43 PM
Salary dump. Bowlen wants a new fur. ;D

24champ
11-22-2011, 01:43 PM
There goes that comp pick...

Shotgun Willie
11-22-2011, 01:44 PM
KingNeckbeard (http://twitter.com/#!/KingNeckbeard) Kyle Orton



It's 2:30 on a Tuesday... I just got fired... I ain't got **** to do... Time to get ****ing crazy!! Let's see what you're made of Denver!

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 01:45 PM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GRaD5HTkn_c/TswXglxgAlI/AAAAAAAAAB0/X4z3zE87zJ8/s495/mcdaniels.jpg

DBroncos4life
11-22-2011, 01:45 PM
They use last season's record for the first 6 (I think) weeks of the season, then it moves to current season record to figure out waiver order.

I see that clears it up now :)

Again:



It INITIALLY starts with the previous years worst records, but a few weeks into the season it resets to current standings.

Sorry Rev didn't see it posted this thread is moving fast.

TheReverend
11-22-2011, 01:45 PM
They use last season's record for the first 6 (I think) weeks of the season, then it moves to current season record to figure out waiver order.

3-4 def not 6. Usually happens in late Sept.

oubronco
11-22-2011, 01:45 PM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GRaD5HTkn_c/TswXglxgAlI/AAAAAAAAAB0/X4z3zE87zJ8/s495/mcdaniels.jpg

LOL :notworthy LOL

broncocalijohn
11-22-2011, 01:46 PM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GRaD5HTkn_c/TswXglxgAlI/AAAAAAAAAB0/X4z3zE87zJ8/s495/mcdaniels.jpg

Am I supposed to laugh because it is funny or the "hurry up and crop up the picture" is soooo bad?

Bronco Vixen
11-22-2011, 01:47 PM
Does this put to rest the "Orton Package" discussion?

Not among the skanks https://twitter.com/#!/KingNeckbeard

Blart
11-22-2011, 01:47 PM
Honorable move by the team, Orton doesn't deserve the bench. Or it was just about money, but I bet they also felt for the guy.

Mogulseeker
11-22-2011, 01:47 PM
Does this mean Tebow get's to call the coin tosses now? ???

Good question dude.

Rohirrim
11-22-2011, 01:48 PM
Days before Orton starts dumping on the Broncos FO to the media...


tick, tick, tick

Bronco Yoda
11-22-2011, 01:51 PM
Let the 'Start Weber' threads begin!

http://i10.tinypic.com/4vqyxlh.gif

Dedhed
11-22-2011, 01:51 PM
Orton doesn't deserve the bench.
Rev, quick, I need a Bert stare!

Broncos4me
11-22-2011, 01:52 PM
Not among the skanks https://twitter.com/#!/KingNeckbeard

KingNeckbeard Kyle Orton
1st order of business... I need a handle of Jack, 3 PBR's, a bottle of robitussin, a diet Sprite, and a beer bong. It's about to get weird


Indeed the ladies of Denver might want to watch out for the very inebriated King Neckbeard.

DrFate
11-22-2011, 01:52 PM
Orton doesn't deserve the bench.

What Orton didn't deserve was $9mil for being a bum

Smilin Assassin
11-22-2011, 01:52 PM
Does this mean Tebow get's to call the coin tosses now? ???

I'm guessing the coaches flipped coins throughout the weeks leading up to last couple of games.

Kyle kept calling "Heads" and showed no signs of progress, thus leading to the team's decision to release him.

Mat'hir Uth Gan
11-22-2011, 01:53 PM
Major head scratcher for me.


No comp pick opportunity now, and this could put us in a bind if one of the teams we are going to play claims him. One, he's likely much better than Hanie and Palko, and two, he knows an awful lot about our plays and play calling preferences.

I get giving the guy the chance to latch on elsewhere with another team and rebound some of his value heading into free agency. And I understand that his value had deflated to the point where we were likely looking at a 6th-7th round comp pick at best. But still....we're in a playoff push where every win is a must, and we likley made at least one of those harder than it needed to be.

Confusing decision by the front office. In retrospect, any trade opportunity in the offseason or at the deadline, even for minimal compensation, looks like a far preferable option than what we ended up with, which was nothing at best.

Bronco Yoda
11-22-2011, 01:54 PM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GRaD5HTkn_c/TswXglxgAlI/AAAAAAAAAB0/X4z3zE87zJ8/s495/mcdaniels.jpg

:spit:

oubronco
11-22-2011, 01:54 PM
What Orton didn't deserve was $9mil for being a bum

You can thank McDumbass for that

Gort
11-22-2011, 01:55 PM
Major head scratcher for me.


No comp pick opportunity now, and this could put us in a bind if one of the teams we are going to play claims him. One, he's likely much better than Hanie and Palko, and two, he knows an awful lot about our plays and play calling preferences.

I get giving the guy the chance to latch on elsewhere with another team and rebound some of his value heading into free agency. And I understand that his value had deflated to the point where we were likely looking at a 6th-7th round comp pick at best. But still....we're in a playoff push where every win is a must, and we likley made at least one of those harder than it needed to be.

Confusing decision by the front office. In retrospect, any trade opportunity in the offseason or at the deadline, even for minimal compensation, looks like a far preferable option than what we ended up with, which was nothing at best.

we've entered the realm of the surreal.

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001873069/3924310854_130192564882_answer_4_xlarge.jpeg

BMF Bronco
11-22-2011, 01:57 PM
Waived the only QB on your roster

yeah that 6-26 record was awesome, shame he's not our best option to win anymore

Rohirrim
11-22-2011, 01:58 PM
Major head scratcher for me.


No comp pick opportunity now, and this could put us in a bind if one of the teams we are going to play claims him. One, he's likely much better than Hanie and Palko, and two, he knows an awful lot about our plays and play calling preferences.

I get giving the guy the chance to latch on elsewhere with another team and rebound some of his value heading into free agency. And I understand that his value had deflated to the point where we were likely looking at a 6th-7th round comp pick at best. But still....we're in a playoff push where every win is a must, and we likley made at least one of those harder than it needed to be.

Confusing decision by the front office. In retrospect, any trade opportunity in the offseason or at the deadline, even for minimal compensation, looks like a far preferable option than what we ended up with, which was nothing at best.

Don't worry. We'll just set Doom and Gloom loose on his ass. ;D

BroncoInferno
11-22-2011, 01:58 PM
With all the QB injuries, my guess is EFX did this in hopes that someone will panic and take Orton off waivers, thus assuming the responsibility for the remainder of his contract. If he clears waivers, I think we owe him the money anyway.

gyldenlove
11-22-2011, 01:59 PM
Major head scratcher for me.


No comp pick opportunity now, and this could put us in a bind if one of the teams we are going to play claims him. One, he's likely much better than Hanie and Palko, and two, he knows an awful lot about our plays and play calling preferences.

I get giving the guy the chance to latch on elsewhere with another team and rebound some of his value heading into free agency. And I understand that his value had deflated to the point where we were likely looking at a 6th-7th round comp pick at best. But still....we're in a playoff push where every win is a must, and we likley made at least one of those harder than it needed to be.

Confusing decision by the front office. In retrospect, any trade opportunity in the offseason or at the deadline, even for minimal compensation, looks like a far preferable option than what we ended up with, which was nothing at best.

I can only see one possible explanation - money. They put him out there knowing the chance that some other team picks up his contract is substantial, getting us off the hook for whatever the balance of his salary is.

Had we put him out there and no team would pick him up he would be entitled to the balance of this years salary (the rest of his contract) as severance pay, and he would be a free agent who could sign for minimum contract anywhere living off the money we would pay him.

If he is claimed the team that claims him will pay the rest of his wages - and I think the judgement was that he would not be rewarded a big enough contract in the offseason to get a comp pick.

GoHAM
11-22-2011, 01:59 PM
I'm guessing the coaches flipped coins throughout the weeks leading up to last couple of games.

Kyle kept calling "Heads" and showed no signs of progress, thus leading to the team's decision to release him.

LOL

"Tails never fails"!

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 02:02 PM
Just think of how shiatty and bleak things must be in offices that are discussing the possibility of signing Orton.

/shudder....

ant1999e
11-22-2011, 02:02 PM
TEKO is on suicide watch.

Dedhed
11-22-2011, 02:02 PM
Why waive a guy when TWO teams we have to face need a QB and another one in a playoff race needs a QB (Texans). Poor timing IMO.

Probably because they stand a 80% chance that QB will lead a team to a loss. Just guessing though.

Dedhed
11-22-2011, 02:03 PM
TEKO is on suicide watch.
I'm sure he'll come up with some really intelligent reason how this is a vote of no confidence for Tebow.

t-diddy
11-22-2011, 02:04 PM
When was the last time a team cut a "Captain" mid-season??? Ever happen?

Gort
11-22-2011, 02:05 PM
LOL

"Tails never fails"!

by "never" you mean "50% of the time", right?

eddie mac
11-22-2011, 02:05 PM
Getting rid of Orton doesn't bother me in the slightest. Dumping him in an attempt to save $2.5m this year worries me far more for our future financial competitiveness.

BroncoMan4ever
11-22-2011, 02:06 PM
Good luck in the future Kyle. Hope a team with a fan base that will appreciate you picks you up.

i feel sorry for the guy, he never got any kind of love from the fans. 1st he got here and he wasn't Cutler, and then a year later he wasn't Tebow and a season later he was preventing Tebow from becoming a star by outplaying him after the Dolphins ****ed him and the Broncos in a trade. i hope he does well somewhere.

Gort
11-22-2011, 02:06 PM
When was the last time a team cut a "Captain" mid-season??? Ever happen?

Chmura? maybe.

AZorange1
11-22-2011, 02:06 PM
see post #31 from yesterday that is "Young is Tebow except the ability to throw". Never thought about the trade deadline BUT, smelled this one coming. Just how much goes on "behind the scenes" discussion between teams, etc, off the record type thing. Bet you they let him go as a service to him so he can hook up quickly now.

Dedhed
11-22-2011, 02:06 PM
Getting rid of Orton doesn't bother me in the slightest. Dumping him in an attempt to save $2.5m this year worries me far more for our future financial competitiveness.

Why wouldn't the team want to save $2.5 million if they could. They've clearly made the decision that he's not going to contribute in any way for the rest of the year, so why not put him out there.

eddie mac
11-22-2011, 02:10 PM
Why wouldn't the team want to save $2.5 million if they could. They've clearly made the decision that he's not going to contribute in any way for the rest of the year, so why not put him out there.

I think it's more the need to save $2.5m than they want to save $2.5m if you catch my drift. This team's as broke as the back mountain.

Crushaholic
11-22-2011, 02:10 PM
The guy wants to play. I get that. It's probably not the best deal for the Broncos, though. We lose a very competent backup, AND we don't get any compensation for it...

crawdad
11-22-2011, 02:11 PM
Getting rid of Orton doesn't bother me in the slightest. Dumping him in an attempt to save $2.5m this year worries me far more for our future financial competitiveness.

It isn't about money, it is about future value! If he can hook up with one of these QBless teams and do well, it speaks volumes for his value moving forward. According to reports he and his agent immediately starting talking to Broncos mgmt. after Cutler was hurt!

oubronco
11-22-2011, 02:13 PM
It isn't about money, it is about future value! If he can hook up with one of these QBless teams and do well, it speaks volumes for his value moving forward. According to reports he and his agent immediately starting talking to Broncos mgmt. after Cutler was hurt!

so his preference is Chicago will Lovie want him back though

eddie mac
11-22-2011, 02:14 PM
It isn't about money, it is about future value! If he can hook up with one of these QBless teams and do well, it speaks volumes for his value moving forward. According to reports he and his agent immediately starting talking to Broncos mgmt. after Cutler was hurt!

Value??? Value to whom, we released him, he has no value to Denver anymore. The only thing Denver get is his $2.5m portion of his salary paid if he gets picked up off waivers. Denver are saving the money now before the CBA states they cant save it and have to spend to a limit.

kane0730
11-22-2011, 02:14 PM
I so hope he ends up with the Bears. Playing behind that OL in the Martz system will be comical.

Dagmar
11-22-2011, 02:14 PM
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg861/scaled.php?tn=0&server=861&filename=wviah.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

t-diddy
11-22-2011, 02:15 PM
Chmura? maybe.

Wow... lol. Hadn't thought of him.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-22-2011, 02:16 PM
TEKO is on suicide watch.

Afraid not.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 02:17 PM
Good luck in the future Kyle. Hope a team with a fan base that will appreciate you picks you up.

i feel sorry for the guy, he never got any kind of love from the fans. 1st he got here and he wasn't Cutler, and then a year later he wasn't Tebow and a season later he was preventing Tebow from becoming a star by outplaying him after the Dolphins ****ed him and the Broncos in a trade. i hope he does well somewhere.

http://images.wikia.com/southpark/images/e/e9/ScottTenormanMustDie30.gif

JCMElway
11-22-2011, 02:18 PM
I think that Chicago might; not sure about KC though.

Nah. From what I saw of the playoff game, I like Hanie better than Orton at this point. And if you're KFC, why bother? You're not going anywhere. Why pay 2.5 mil to go firmly nowhere.

And to think, we could have had a third or fourth for him at the start of the season....

crawdad
11-22-2011, 02:20 PM
Value??? Value to whom, we released him, he has no value to Denver anymore. The only thing Denver get is his $2.5m portion of his salary paid if he gets picked up off waivers. Denver are saving the money now before the CBA states they cant save it and have to spend to a limit.

Orton's value to another team! He and his agent want him to be able to play now. Denver's 2.5 mil. mean very little, he asked to be released.

Gort
11-22-2011, 02:21 PM
I so hope he ends up with the Bears. Playing behind that OL in the Martz system will be comical.

just for fun, in his press conference he could announce that Tebow is a 9 and Cutler's a 6.

see what i did there?

jhns
11-22-2011, 02:25 PM
just for fun, in his press conference he could announce that Tebow is a 9 and Cutler's a 6.

see what i did there?

No. Tebow is a 15.

schaaf
11-22-2011, 02:27 PM
haha. **** you kyle.

This haha

Dedhed
11-22-2011, 02:29 PM
I think it's more the need to save $2.5m than they want to save $2.5m if you catch my drift. This team's as broke as the back mountain.

Where are you getting the idea that they "need" to save that money? If the "needed" to lose his contract they would have offered him up for a 7th rounder prior to the deadline and saved even more than $2.5M.

He has $0 value to the franchise by being on the team at this point. He stands a chance of being of some value by being waived.

BroncoBeavis
11-22-2011, 02:29 PM
Nah. From what I saw of the playoff game, I like Hanie better than Orton at this point. And if you're KFC, why bother? You're not going anywhere. Why pay 2.5 mil to go firmly nowhere.

And to think, we could have had a third or fourth for him at the start of the season....

Not sure about the Hanie thing, but like you say, I can't see KFC happening. With their schedule, stick a fork in 'em. No need to pay extra on those losses.

Rashomon
11-22-2011, 02:30 PM
Nah. From what I saw of the playoff game, I like Hanie better than Orton at this point. And if you're KFC, why bother? You're not going anywhere. Why pay 2.5 mil to go firmly nowhere.

And to think, we could have had a third or fourth for him at the start of the season....

Right now, Chicago is one play away from Nathan Enderle as their starting QB. If you are in the thick of the playoff race, which Chicago is, $2.5 M to upgrade the most important position on your team is not too bad. However, Chicago is as cheap as Denver appears to be.

bowtown
11-22-2011, 02:32 PM
Could you explain how this is a good move for the broncos? Im curious to hear?

1. Orton was not going to see the field the rest of the year. Check
2. Orton could not be traded. Check
3. Orton was not in Tebow's corner. Check
4. Cutting Orton saves the team millions of dollars. Check
5. Cutting Orton takes care of any left over locker room division.
6. Cutting players that don't have a chance to compete on your squad, so that they have a chance to go compete somewhere else buys you fairness and loyalty points. It makes your franchise more attractive to players.

What are your reasons that it is a bad move?

bronco militia
11-22-2011, 02:34 PM
maybe Shanny is interested....

bendog
11-22-2011, 02:37 PM
maybe Shanny is interested....

I was thinking that too. I wonder if the Redskins are before the Texans in waiver order.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-22-2011, 02:38 PM
I was thinking that too. I wonder if the Redskins are before the Texans in waiver order.

They should be. They have a far worse record.

I don't see the point of getting Orton on the Skins, honestly.

jhns
11-22-2011, 02:40 PM
maybe Shanny is interested....

Doubt it. That team is missing far too many players to make any noise this season. There is the chance that he sees Orton as a better option than their current QBs though.

Play2win
11-22-2011, 02:42 PM
Wow. Well we know what the front office thinks of him now...

Kyle Orton gives us the best chance to win-- if he's OFF our Team...

ColoradoDarin
11-22-2011, 02:42 PM
http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/files/2010/12/mcdaniels.jpg

Someone please (badly) photoshop Orton riding shotgun instead of driving.

bendog
11-22-2011, 02:44 PM
They should be. They have a far worse record.

I don't see the point of getting Orton on the Skins, honestly.

Don't interpret this as Love for Orton. However, Orton does play best in a multi-read offense where his job is really to deal off the ball quickly in 3 and 5 step drops. He's SOB redeaux in some ways. Nicer guy and better teammate though

ludo21
11-22-2011, 02:47 PM
Skins do have the first chance for Orton between Texans, Bears, Chiefs.

should be interesting

bendog
11-22-2011, 02:49 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/30725/nfl-waiver-claim-order

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-22-2011, 02:50 PM
Don't interpret this as Love for Orton. However, Orton does play best in a multi-read offense where his job is really to deal off the ball quickly in 3 and 5 step drops. He's SOB redeaux in some ways. Nicer guy and better teammate though

I hate to break this to you, but anything even mildly complimenting Orton is seen here as "Love for Orton."

ColoradoDarin
11-22-2011, 02:50 PM
maybe Shanny is interested....

It would really help the Redskins suck for Luck.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-22-2011, 02:50 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/30725/nfl-waiver-claim-order

That's from 11/1/10.

Tombstone RJ
11-22-2011, 02:51 PM
Thanks Elway you just gave KC or CHI another coach to help gameplan against Denver. Yah I know it 's not that hard to gameplan for 8 passes a game but damn we are right in the playoff hunt.

It's a classy move by the Broncos and shows that the Broncos actually do care about players. The Broncos waived Orton and now he has a chance with another team.

So what? Do you really think the Broncos are scared of Orton if he should land on a team that the Broncos might possibly play in the future?

nah.

HooptyHoops
11-22-2011, 02:52 PM
Just think of how shiatty and bleak things must be in offices that are discussing the possibility of signing Orton.

/shudder....

No kidding....I loved the NFL network guys saying, "Wow, the Bears have to be licking their chops, as your QB goes down and then all of a sudden a guy of Orton's talent is available." Jerry Rice says, "Yeah, if he went there he would command respect in the locker room, as he is a starting QB who has won games in the NFL."

Obviously, I'm paraphrasing from my memory(which isn't great).

Fricking cracks me up!!

IHaveALight
11-22-2011, 02:53 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/30725/nfl-waiver-claim-order

I wish we would have cut him in November 2010...

BroncoBeavis
11-22-2011, 02:54 PM
That's from 11/1/10.

True. But it still makes me wonder... where is Randy Moss?

Shotgun Willie
11-22-2011, 02:56 PM
I wish we would have cut him in November 2010...

A trade one year earlier when he was 6-0 in 2009 would've been better. Probably could've gotten a late first or second rounder for him at that point.

ColoradoDarin
11-22-2011, 02:56 PM
I hope someone picks him up and saves us the money, not like a 6th or 7th comp pick is all that different from UDFA (especially if we get another Chris Harris).

Play2win
11-22-2011, 02:58 PM
Its cool, he'll go do his handball thang he's got going... oops, wrong guy, but whatever...

Jay3
11-22-2011, 03:07 PM
I hate to break this to you, but anything even mildly complimenting Orton is seen here as "Love for Orton."

The snide tone of this post reveals you to be an Orton-lover.