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TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-22-2011, 04:13 PM
The snide tone of this post reveals you to be an Orton-lover.

Thanks for proving my point, Jay3.

USAFBronco
11-22-2011, 04:22 PM
So I think this is right but, we ultimately traded Cutler for Robert Ayers?

http://img.theplatform.info/rssimage/63810-0

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-22-2011, 04:27 PM
So I think this is right but, we ultimately traded Cutler for Robert Ayers?

http://img.theplatform.info/rssimage/63810-0

And part of Tim Tebow, I think.

ETA: Which part? Hopefully the legs, and not the arm.

KO5K
11-22-2011, 04:30 PM
So I think this is right but, we ultimately traded Cutler for Robert Ayers?

I think Decker is in there as well.

Shotgun Willie
11-22-2011, 04:32 PM
Minus Johnny Knox

ol#7
11-22-2011, 04:36 PM
Gobsmacked by the news. Fine with the move, guess Elway got slapped for not backing Teebs. Odd timing.

If anyone is a friend of TEKO, go to him now, he needs you more than ever! What am I saying, TEKO has no friends!

Shananahan
11-22-2011, 04:37 PM
A trade one year earlier when he was 6-0 in 2009 would've been better. Probably could've gotten a late first or second rounder for him at that point.
This is hilarious.

Shananahan
11-22-2011, 04:38 PM
Also why is everybody crying about 'lost' comp picks? If you really thought Denver had a third or fourth round pick coming to them simply for letting Orton walk away then you're clueless as to how the system works.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-22-2011, 04:41 PM
Gobsmacked by the news. Fine with the move, guess Elway got slapped for not backing Teebs. Odd timing.

If anyone is a friend of TEKO, go to him now, he needs you more than ever! What am I saying, TEKO has no friends!

Again, I hate to break it to mouth-breathers like ol#7 here, but I'm not upset in the slightest about the news.

But you keep on ****in' that chicken, buddy.

errand
11-22-2011, 04:48 PM
Who cares? How awesomely awkward will those quarterback meetings be? Also, I can't wait to pencil in a win against the Orton led Bears.


Yeah it would be kind of awkward.

i can hear the sideline reporters before the game

Broncos sideline - "The Bronco coaches here think the best way to beat the Bears is to rush Orton, forcing him to try and make plays while being flushed from the pocket"

Bears sideline - "The Bear coaches here think the best way to beat the Broncos is to not rush Tebow, and force him to make plays from the pocket"

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 04:54 PM
Yeah it would be kind of awkward.

i can hear the sideline reporters before the game

Broncos sideline - "The Bronco coaches here think the best way to beat the Bears is to rush Orton, forcing him to try and make plays while being flushed from the pocket"

Bears sideline - "The Bear coaches here think the best way to beat the Broncos is to not rush Tebow, and force him to make plays from the pocket"

Bears: Try to keep Tebow from doing what he does.

Broncos: Let Orton do what he does.

errand
11-22-2011, 04:57 PM
It is possible that Orton asked to be waived, so he may have negotiated a settlement on his guaranteed money. The man wants to play ball, but he is a millionaire now, some of which he brought with him from Chicago. It is certain that he is not coming back to Denver next year. So, it makes sense for him to want out now. Whether he signs with any other club is his business. If the hecklers around here did not think he was good for Denver, then I don't understand why anyone would give a crap what he does.

For my part, I think Orton did the best he could with a difficult situation. He did not begt to come here although he did seem to think the Denver gig would be better than the Chicago pits. He had no D support, no RB support, a difficult O to learn, spolied and unruly insesistive and insultive butt-hurt fans, a new Oline, and a very unsettled organizational situation to deal with along with injuries. I don't believe he was the right guy for this team going forward, because the butt-hurt Cutler fanatics and McD haters would not have allowed him a decent chance to do it. Further, I think Orton has every right to think very bad thoughts about the Denver fans and the organization. Good luck Kyle, and thanks for your efforts.

Exactly...

I find it amazing how many of these aforementioned clowns that clamored for him to be gone are now bitching about what they wished all season for. They obviously have idea how stupid they sound now complaining about the team getting rid of the one guy they claimed kept this team down


Kyle's gone....bye bye...thanks for your service, time to move on now.

HAT
11-22-2011, 05:00 PM
I'm way lay late to this thread but this is a great move by EFX. Comes off as the classy thing to do to let a vet try to hook on with a QB needy team and more importantly...Gets Weber on the active roster.

****ing lockout can still suck balls though.

Shananahan
11-22-2011, 05:01 PM
Kyle's gone....bye bye...thanks for your service, time to move on now.
Technically it was time to move on before the season even started.

I'm really not sure why anybody would be too upset over this, especially if somebody claims him off waivers.

Broncoman13
11-22-2011, 05:02 PM
Bears: Try to keep Tebow from doing what he does.

Broncos: Let Orton do what he does.

Hey, at least Orton will be able to complete some passes to Broncos players!!!

Broncobiv
11-22-2011, 05:04 PM
The true question is: Can we maybe... possibly... stop talking about Orton now? ;D

Kinda like how we stopped talking about Cutler after he left? Ha!

55CrushEm
11-22-2011, 05:13 PM
Bears: Try to keep Tebow from doing what he does.

Broncos: Let Orton do what he does.

LOL

TheReverend
11-22-2011, 05:16 PM
Again, I hate to break it to mouth-breathers like ol#7 here, but I'm not upset in the slightest about the news.

But you keep on ****in' that chicken, buddy.

And I don't really have sex with lobsters, but we reap what we sow :)

errand
11-22-2011, 05:17 PM
yeah that 6-26 record was awesome, shame he's not our best option to win anymore

Why does every idiot on here keep saying Orton's record as our starter is something other than it is? You morons keep acting like the first 6 games of '09 weren't played.

Hate him if you want, but at least speak truthfully.

He went 8-7 in '09 3-10 in '10 and 1-4 in '11....total W-L with Broncos is 12-21, the exact opposite he was with Bears. He's 32-32 overall as NFL starter.

errand
11-22-2011, 05:19 PM
If he clears waivers he becomes an unrestricted FA if I'm not mistaken, and the Broncos are on hook for his full '11 salary. So the best scenario for Kyle would be to clear waivers, collect his full salary from Denver, and then sign with whoever he wants (or wants him for highest $)

Shananahan
11-22-2011, 05:20 PM
Why would anybody care about the best scenario for Kyle Orton?

ScottXray
11-22-2011, 05:21 PM
Technically it was time to move on before the season even started.

I'm really not sure why anybody would be too upset over this, especially if somebody claims him off waivers.

The problem I see is that if he CLEARS waivers then we are still on the hook for his salary the rest of the year. He can wait until he clears and then renegotiate a new contract with whomever wants to sign him and he STILL gets paid by us. Hell , he might sign for the equivalent of the league minimum...Sticks it to us! Unless someone was sniffing around Weber on the PS there was NO reason to waive Orton at this time. And while the compensatory pick might not have been much it is better than nothing at all and seeing him sign with a team we still might face this year, while WE are paying for him to stick it to us.

This is a real headscratcher, and pretty stupid by the FO, if Weber wasn't being sniffed around.

errand
11-22-2011, 05:22 PM
I'm sure he'll come up with some really intelligent reason how this is a vote of no confidence for Tebow.

Only Tebow's fans think the front office doesn't have confidence in him and are trying to keep him down.

The rest of us figured they evidently believed in the kid as the 2nd half KO was happening vs san diego

Shananahan
11-22-2011, 05:24 PM
The problem I see is that if he CLEARS waivers then we are still on the hook for his salary the rest of the year. He can wait until he clears and then renegotiate a new contract with whomever wants to sign him and he STILL gets paid by us. Hell , he might sign for the equivalent of the league minimum...Sticks it to us! Unless someone was sniffing around Weber on the PS there was NO reason to waive Orton at this time. And while the compensatory pick might not have been much it is better than nothing at all and seeing him sign with a team we still might face this year, while WE are paying for him to stick it to us.

This is a real headscratcher, and pretty stupid by the FO, if Weber wasn't being sniffed around.
Yeah, but he was going to be the very last option at QB from here on out and most likely would not have taken a single snap, even if Tebow was injured.

It's really a win-no loss move. They win if somebody claims him, and if he hits the free agent market oh well.

errand
11-22-2011, 05:33 PM
Technically it was time to move on before the season even started.

I'm really not sure why anybody would be too upset over this, especially if somebody claims him off waivers.

What's really funny is that the ones bitching about his being waived are the ones who hated his guts....

I guess careful what you wish for huh?

edog24
11-22-2011, 05:37 PM
Did Xanders just bitch slap Elway with a large pizza? I am so stoked to hear this news! That fugger gave me some of the worst games I have had as a Broncos fan. Laying down when the pocket collapses, playing like a vag when the game was on the line. Eff him, get the hell out of Denver tonight.

broncolife
11-22-2011, 05:37 PM
Yeah, but he was going to be the very last option at QB from here on out and most likely would not have taken a single snap, even if Tebow was injured.

.

Which is a problem. Our front office is still acting like we are a 1-4 team whose trying to evaluate players for the future .We are in the playoff hunt and I dont like us losing depth at the qb positon. I didnt like Orton but I thought he would be a way better #2 option then Quinn.

errand
11-22-2011, 05:41 PM
Why would anybody care about the best scenario for Kyle Orton?

Personally I don't care, he's no longer a Bronco.....just giving an opinion. Would have said the same thing if it were any other player we waived.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 05:43 PM
Did Xanders just b**** slap Elway with a large pizza? I am so stoked to hear this news! That fugger gave me some of the worst games I have had as a Broncos fan. Laying down when the pocket collapses, playing like a vag when the game was on the line. Eff him, get the hell out of Denver tonight.


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TonyR
11-22-2011, 05:48 PM
Hey jhns, look how they're supporting Orton but not Tebow. You're right again!!!

Dedhed
11-22-2011, 05:50 PM
The rest of us figured they evidently believed in the kid as the 2nd half KO was happening vs san diego
Yeah, that's exactly when the FO got on board.:welcome:

schaaf
11-22-2011, 05:58 PM
My theory is that Orton saw all these teams have their quarterback go down, Orton sees this as a chance to resurrect his career asks to be released

Old Dude
11-22-2011, 06:26 PM
They had no intention of playing him again this year. If someone picks up his contract on waivers they save money. It's a money move, nothing more or less.

cutthemdown
11-22-2011, 06:27 PM
My theory is that Orton saw all these teams have their quarterback go down, Orton sees this as a chance to resurrect his career asks to be released

Yep. Not a bad move because other vet players will say Broncos do it right, they will let you move on asap to try and keep your career going. Bengals, well not so much. It could make a small difference at some point in FA in our FO takes the high road.

Armchair Bronco
11-22-2011, 06:40 PM
If you start with the assumption that the front office doesn't really want to make a playoff run (and never intended for Tebow to go 4-1 after benching Orton), then this move makes perfect sense.

Use Occam's razor to cut away the fluff, and what's left must be the plain and simple truth.

Rigs11
11-22-2011, 06:46 PM
Might have been posted already.Looks like the bears are claiming him already.

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=7269812

Shananahan
11-22-2011, 06:46 PM
If you start with the assumption that the front office doesn't really want to make a playoff run (and never intended for Tebow to go 4-1 after benching Orton), then this move makes perfect sense.

Use Occam's razor to cut away the fluff, and what's left must be the plain and simple truth.
Ah yes, the best way to find the plain and simple truth: start with an assumption.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 06:48 PM
Might have been posted already.Looks like the bears are claiming him already.

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=7269812

o please o please o please o please.......

HAT
11-22-2011, 06:49 PM
o please o please o please o please.......

This...... x1000

Rigs11
11-22-2011, 06:50 PM
o please o please o please o please.......

You would rather face orton than Haney?Really?

Armchair Bronco
11-22-2011, 06:50 PM
Ah yes, the best way to find the plain and simple truth: start with an assumption.

Hey, it's the foundation of modern science. Start with a hypothesis. Then do some repeatable tests and carefully record the results. Attempt to interpret results using hypothesis as a reference point. If everything looks cool, hypothesis *may* be correct. If not, make new hypothesis, then rinse and repeat.

epicSocialism4tw
11-22-2011, 06:52 PM
o please o please o please o please.......

Pat Bowlen rejoices, Von Miller, Champ Bailey, and Dumervil are heard cheering in the hallway.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 06:53 PM
You would rather face orton than Haney?Really?

In a hot minute. Are you f--king kidding me?

Archer81
11-22-2011, 06:54 PM
You would rather face orton than Haney?Really?


You wouldnt?


:Broncos:

Dr. Broncenstein
11-22-2011, 06:56 PM
Orton starting for the Bears = instawin for the Broncos when they come to town. I mean, as long as Miller doesn't do something crazy like knock Orton out of the game.

Que
11-22-2011, 06:57 PM
Crap! No more @KingNeckBeard. Perhaps there is a place in this world for @TheEvilTimTebow?

teknic
11-22-2011, 06:58 PM
Crap! No more @KingNeckBeard. Perhaps there is a place in this world for @TheEvilTimTebow?

What's wrong with @JimElbow?

DBroncos4life
11-22-2011, 06:58 PM
You wouldnt?


:Broncos:

He's a better QB there then he ever was here. 21 and 12 there as a starter. Really with the running game they have and how well they have been playing D they will be tough to beat with or without Orton.

epicSocialism4tw
11-22-2011, 07:00 PM
What's wrong with @JimElbow?

@JimElbow has potential.

Right now it could be all about a schizophrenic dialogue regarding self-loathing and the projection of an inner witch hunt.

Rigs11
11-22-2011, 07:00 PM
You wouldnt?


:Broncos:

Hell no.I know you guys have a vile hatred for orton,but he is a much more polished qb than haley.Caleb hasnt done shet with the bears

ward63
11-22-2011, 07:04 PM
The only reason I would have liked to of kept him is to possibly get a compensation pick for him in the offseason, but it makes sense also to save the money. Plus, it does show some character of the Broncos to allow a veteran to move on with his career.

Bronx33
11-22-2011, 07:08 PM
The only reason I would have liked to of kept him is to possibly get a compensation pick for him in the offseason, but it makes sense also to save the money. Plus, it does show some character of the Broncos to allow a veteran to move on with his career.


The zoo wasn't willing to part with a loved sloth so kyle had to hit the bricks.

TotallyScrewed
11-22-2011, 07:26 PM
Wow. Well we know what the front office thinks of him now...

This is beautiful...one less team in Suck for Luck mode!!

TotallyScrewed
11-22-2011, 07:33 PM
Might have been posted already.Looks like the bears are claiming him already.

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=7269812

The trade deadline has TotallyScrewed the Broncos in this case! I hope that the league addresses the timing of the trade deadline in light of the QB injuries this year.

Bronx33
11-22-2011, 07:35 PM
Hes alll yours bears ohhhhh wait you already kicked him down the road once? geeeeee i wonder why?

broncocalijohn
11-22-2011, 08:08 PM
Hey, it's the foundation of modern science. Start with a hypothesis. Then do some repeatable tests and carefully record the results. Attempt to interpret results using hypothesis as a reference point. If everything looks cool, hypothesis *may* be correct. If not, make new hypothesis, then rinse and repeat.

Well, if your ASSUMPTION is correct, why would the Broncos then trade Tebow and keep Orton to start? If the FO really didnt want to make the playoffs, wouldnt that be the best scenario? How does waiving our backup QB give us a worse chance of making the playoffs? You also know that to assume, you make an ass of u and me. I personally are not part of your assumption.

alkemical
11-22-2011, 08:18 PM
:lombardi:

DrFate
11-22-2011, 08:20 PM
He's a better QB there then he ever was here. 21 and 12 there as a starter. Really with the running game they have and how well they have been playing D they will be tough to beat with or without Orton.

Chicago is a tough matchup, regardless

Bronx33
11-22-2011, 08:22 PM
say goodbye to the pocket sloth..

Broncos4tw
11-22-2011, 08:22 PM
Who cares where he goes? He is a choke-a-matic. He cannot scramble, and collapses if you touch him. Are you seriously worried if we have to play against him? Personally, I hope he goes to the Chefs. Von Doom will have a field day with him.

Bronx33
11-22-2011, 08:25 PM
Question is will orton fair better behind the bears OL?? cutler had the ability to move left and right backwards and forwards orton possesses none of these directions in his eluded the pass rush package.

ZONA
11-22-2011, 08:53 PM
Why does every idiot on here keep saying Orton's record as our starter is something other than it is? You morons keep acting like the first 6 games of '09 weren't played.

Hate him if you want, but at least speak truthfully.

He went 8-7 in '09 3-10 in '10 and 1-4 in '11....total W-L with Broncos is 12-21, the exact opposite he was with Bears. He's 32-32 overall as NFL starter.

That about sums Orton up right there (32-32). He is the definition of average.

Tim
11-22-2011, 09:39 PM
I can't think of any team desperate enough to take on his 2 million dollar contract for the rest of the season. He might be in a camp in july but his days of being #1 on a depth chart are done.

Armchair Bronco
11-22-2011, 09:42 PM
My prediktion is that Chicago will claim him.

ICON
11-22-2011, 09:42 PM
Since Orton leaves the team would we be in line for a comp pick?

probably a fairly good one if Orton got a starting gig

teknic
11-22-2011, 10:09 PM
@JimElbow has potential.

Right now it could be all about a schizophrenic dialogue regarding self-loathing and the projection of an inner witch hunt.

Don't forget the misspelling of every name and random bible quotes.

Dagmar
11-22-2011, 10:23 PM
My prediktion is that Chicago will claim him.

There is little doubt of that, however the point is will he make it past the 29 teams in the way.

Shananahan
11-22-2011, 11:22 PM
There is little doubt of that, however the point is will he make it past the 29 teams in the way.
Does it matter?

Armchair Bronco
11-23-2011, 12:04 AM
There is little doubt of that, however the point is will he make it past the 29 teams in the way.

Yes, he will. The $2.5 million price tag is high enough to prevent gamesmanship and shenanigans from other teams with worse records.

I doubt any other team is willing to spend $2.5 million just to keep Orton away from Chicago.

Dagmar
11-23-2011, 12:37 AM
Does it matter?

It's a thread discussing Kyle Orton dude being waived.

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jhns
11-23-2011, 07:14 AM
Yes, he will. The $2.5 million price tag is high enough to prevent gamesmanship and shenanigans from other teams with worse records.

I doubt any other team is willing to spend $2.5 million just to keep Orton away from Chicago.

The Texans could. They are still playing for something.

Broncomutt
11-23-2011, 07:28 AM
Wow, just read this. So happy this guy will never take another Bronco snap.

Lloyd gone. Moreno out. Orton gone.

Purging the weak and the selfish.

Love it!

Lev Vyvanse
11-23-2011, 08:52 AM
Did we just give away a compensatory draft pick?

Mile High Mojoe
11-23-2011, 09:05 AM
I'm glad he's gone it just stinks that that the FO didn't get him traded before the season started so they could get something of value. At the same time I completely understand why no one in their right freaking mind wanted to pay this flufftard’s $8.9 million salary.

It’s looking like the Bears will make a waiver claim on this bum and pick up the $2.5 million still left on his contract. I can’t wait to see the Broncos play the Bears if he goes there and have the pleasure of watching the Broncos D sack him 7 times and leave him a bloody whimpering lump lying on the turf. Thanks for wasting $9 million of my teams money on your sorry ass. Goodbye and see ya in Denver next month you worthless sloth. Oh…and thanks again McGenius for the nice gift that keeps on giving.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-23-2011, 09:06 AM
There is little doubt of that, however the point is will he make it past the 29 teams in the way.

There's a rumor coming out of Chicago that his agent has told other teams he's prepared to sit out the rest of the season rather than go somewhere other than the Bears. Don't know how true it is, as I'm getting this third hand, but...

According to this source, Orton's agent has been talking to Chicago since the benching about possibly bringing him back, and the injury to Cutler finally got the train moving.

Again, just a rumor. That seems like tampering to me, so I don't really believe it, but... that's what's out there.

ColoradoDarin
11-23-2011, 09:19 AM
Did we just give away a compensatory draft pick?

Not really. Compensatory picks are given based on several things, one of which is how much the F/A leaving signs for. It's not likely that Orton receives starter's $$$$. They also depend on F/A signed vs lost, we sign one mid-tier guy (like a bunch of WRs that are F/As this year) and that wipes out the compensatory pick. Additionally they are at the end of the round in the following year (2013 for Orton), so even if we got a 6th or a 7th round comp pick, it's not much better than some UDFA.

Saving $2.5 million for this organization seems a better decision.

Mile High Mojoe
11-23-2011, 09:38 AM
Not really. Compensatory picks are given based on several things, one of which is how much the F/A leaving signs for. It's not likely that Orton receives starter's $$$$. They also depend on F/A signed vs lost, we sign one mid-tier guy (like a bunch of WRs that are F/As this year) and that wipes out the compensatory pick. Additionally they are at the end of the round in the following year (2013 for Orton), so even if we got a 6th or a 7th round comp pick, it's not much better than some UDFA.

Saving $2.5 million for this organization seems a better decision.

True but Hey... we only lost $7.4 million and got one lousy victory from him, what a bargain. Everything possible should have been done to get rid him at the beginning of the season to get something of value. He's going out just like he came in, totally worthless.

We really lost our collective asses on the whole 2 ½ Orton experiment. Thanks again McD.