Lee Harvey Oswald's girl friend tells all...

[mhgaffney]

The real story you've never been told about how Lee Harvey Oswald was set up to take the blame for the JFK asassination

Me & Lee: How I Came to Know, Love and Lose Lee Harvey Oswald [Paperback]
Judyth Vary Baker (Author), Jim Marrs (Afterword)

Judyth Vary was once a promising science student who dreamed of finding a cure for cancer; this exposé is her account of how she strayed from a path of mainstream scholarship at the University of Florida to a life of espionage in New Orleans with Lee Harvey Oswald. In her narrative she offers extensive documentation on how she came to be a cancer expert at such a young age, the personalities who urged her to relocate to New Orleans, and what led to her involvement in the development of a biological weapon that Oswald was to smuggle into Cuba to eliminate Fidel Castro. Details on what she knew of Kennedy’s impending assassination, her conversations with Oswald as late as two days before the killing, and her belief that Oswald was a deep-cover intelligence agent who was framed for an assassination he was actually trying to prevent, are also revealed.

Here is one of 41 five-star reviews -- this one by scholar James Fetzer:

As it happens, I have been privileged to know Judyth Vary Baker for several years now. I have interviewed her at least fifteen times on YouTube and featured her in blogs (which are archived at JamesFetzerNews and [...]). I also initiated a thread about her on The Education Forum, which had thousands of posts and became the longest thread in the history of the forum. I am convinced that she is "the real deal", which is also the name of my radio show, which is archived at [...]. But all fifteen can be found at [...].

I have done extensive research on the death of JFK, including editing ASSASSINATION SCIENCE (1998), MURDER IN DEALEY PLAZA (2000), and THE GREAT ZAPRUDER HOAX (2003). My recent publications on JFK include "JFK and RFK: The Plots that Killed Them, The Patsies that Didn't", "The Dartmouth JFK-Photo Fiasco" with Jim Marrs, and "RFK: Outing the CIA at the Ambassador", which has just appeared. (Just google "John F. Kennedy: History, Memory, Legacy", and download Chapter 30, "Revisiting Dealey Plaza: What Happened to JFK?" for an overview.) I am familiar with the twists and turns of assassination research and of the extent of the effort to keep Judyth's story from the American public, which have even forced her to live in exile.

In my opinion, there are three major reasons for these attempts to silence her. The first is that she humanizes the alleged assassin, which makes it more difficult for the government to continue with its charade that he was "a lone, demented gunman". The second is that it exposes methods and techniques employed by the agency to keep its covert activities in the background and away from public scrutiny. The third is that she exposes research to develop a bio-weapon to murder Fidel Castro and make it appear to have been due to "natural causes" under the direction of Alton Ochsner, M.D., Dr. Mary Sherman, David Ferrie, Lee Oswald, and herself. Lee was working for the very agencies that would ultimately frame him.

This is a gripping and absolutely compelling story told with emotional intensity and stunning candor. We already knew that the weapon he was alleged to have used cannot have fired the bullets that killed JFK. We also knew that he was on the 2nd floor in the lunchroom at the time of the shooting. We also know that he admired JFK and bore him no malice. Which means the man who was fingered by the Warren Commission for murdering JFK had neither the means, the motive, or the opportunity to have killed him. Now we know what was happening during the crucial months that Lee was in New Orleans prior to 22 November 1963 through this book, which brings the character and personality of the man who would be cast as "the patsy" to life.

This book ranks among the very best ever written on the assassination, including BLOODY TREASON by Noel Twyman, JFK AND THE UNSPEAKABLE by James Douglass, INSIDE THE ARRB by Douglas Horne, and LBJ: THE MASTERMIND BEHIND JFK'S ASSASSINATION by Phillip Nelson, most of whom I have also interviewed. (See, for example, [...]) ME & LEE belongs in this illustrious collection. Judyth Vary Baker has demonstrated her courage, integrity, and dedication to the truth and has made a major contribution to understanding the plot to kill our 35th president and has earned our admiration.

[mhgaffney]

For more about the book -- go to:

http://www.amazon.com/Me-Lee-Came-Harvey-Oswald/dp/1936296373/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1321903511&sr=1-1

[Garcia Bronco]

They just proved the Oswald was the only one that fired the shots And he fired all three of them with HD mastered video of all the home movie films that day.

It's over consipracy nuts. A lone gunman named Lee Oswald shot President Kennedy and the Texas Governor. It's over.

the special is airing on national geo this week. It's called JFK: The lost Bullet.

Their investigation also concluded that the 3 shots were fired over 11 seconds. Not 3 shots in 6 seconds. The investigation concluded that all 3 shoots came from the Book Depository. Since they found Lee's gun with his finger prints and the 3 casings at that scene where he fired them and had been


Stop the nonsense. Your girlfriends book is more FOS than yours.

[Arkie]

So why did Jack Ruby kill Oswald?

[Garcia Bronco]

So why did Jack Ruby kill Oswald?

We'd have to ask him. I would imagine that Jack was upset that Oswald killed the President. Just like I don't agree with Obama's idealogy, but if someone were to hurt him or his family...I'd be very upset.

[Arkie]

Don't be naive. Jack had connections to the mafia.

[Garcia Bronco]

Don't be naive. Jack had connections to the mafia.

Yeah..he was also a drug addict and had mental problems. The facts we know are that he killed Oswald. No one knows why. We do know that Oswald fired 3 shots from the TSBD and killed Kennedy.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Don't be naive. Jack had connections to the mafia.

Oswald was yet another far left loon (communist) on a mission.

Kennedy wasn't far left enough.

What Ruby's role was, nobody knows. We know for sure that Oswald delivered the shots and we know his motivation.

We have had 4 presidential assassinations in this country. 3 of them were carried out by communists or anarchists.

Even Roosevelt's attempted assassin was a far left loon who didn't beleive that Roosevelt was far enough left.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

The real story
LOL

Considering there isn't anything real in your world, that's some funny shyt.

[mhgaffney]

They just proved the Oswald was the only one that fired the shots And he fired all three of them with HD mastered video of all the home movie films that day.

It's over consipracy nuts. A lone gunman named Lee Oswald shot President Kennedy and the Texas Governor. It's over.

the special is airing on national geo this week. It's called JFK: The lost Bullet.

Their investigation also concluded that the 3 shots were fired over 11 seconds. Not 3 shots in 6 seconds. The investigation concluded that all 3 shoots came from the Book Depository. Since they found Lee's gun with his finger prints and the 3 casings at that scene where he fired them and had been

Stop the nonsense. Your girlfriends book is more FOS than yours.

What's over is US democracy.

Killed by Wall Street and their CIA foot soldiers.

Money rules.

[mhgaffney]

LOL

Considering there isn't anything real in your world, that's some funny shyt.

Read the book, dufus.

Oh I keep forgetting. Knee jerks like you don't read books -- you ridicule 'em-- and burn 'em.

The march of the lemmings.

[Garcia Bronco]

What's over is US democracy.

Killed by Wall Street and their CIA foot soldiers.

Money rules.

oy veh.

[barryr]

I have read like a handful of books on this(and there are many more it seems) and the only real consensus it seems, for the most part, is that Oswald did the shooting. But the why and who if anyone else is involved has a wide range. Oswald's actions are indeed very odd if he was acting alone and just the Ruby actions make this story very strange if you believe he did that on his own just because he liked Kennedy. The Kennedy family not wanting to release records and such adds to the strangeness of it all.

My personal feeling is that there was some sort of spying and double crossing going on, but who and how, and why, I just don't know. But I do think Oswald thought he was working for someone or something and he did not do this just for himself since his getaway plan was hardly sophisticated, which wreaks of expecting some sort of help that didn't come.

[Garcia Bronco]

I have read like a handful of books on this(and there are many more it seems) and the only real consensus it seems, for the most part, is that Oswald did the shooting. But the why and who if anyone else is involved has a wide range. Oswald's actions are indeed very odd if he was acting alone and just the Ruby actions make this story very strange if you believe he did that on his own just because he liked Kennedy. The Kennedy family not wanting to release records and such adds to the strangeness of it all.

My personal feeling is that there was some sort of spying and double crossing going on, but who and how, and why, I just don't know. But I do think Oswald thought he was working for someone or something and he did not do this just for himself since his getaway plan was hardly sophisticated, which wreaks of expecting some sort of help that didn't come.

I agree that all those things seem strange. Oswald started working at the book depsitory roughly a month before Kennedy even visited Dallas. There is no way he could have known Kennedy would be driving by.

[Garcia Bronco]

Read the book, dufus.

Oh I keep forgetting. Knee jerks like you don't read books -- you ridicule 'em-- and burn 'em.

The march of the lemmings.

Any person can write anything in a book. A person like yourself for example.

To put it another way

I could take a **** in a box are marked guaranteed on it. That does not indicate that I have a quality product.

[NUB]

I've been in the room he shot from and... well, Oswald must have been a stupidly good shooter to pull off those shots.

JFK had more enemies than the rest of the 20th century Presidents combined. If you were to put a gun to my head and ask me if I thought others were involved -- shooting or not -- I would hedge my bets and say yes.

[barryr]

I agree that all those things seem strange. Oswald started working at the book depsitory roughly a month before Kennedy even visited Dallas. There is no way he could have known Kennedy would be driving by.

If I had to guess, Cuban exiles were involved, upset at the botched Bay of Pigs fiasco and feeling Kennedy decided against any more action and deserting them, though from what I have read, there was so much intermingling of them and the mob, the CIA, FBI, etc. So hard to say, assuming there was others involved, just who was and who knew, but said nothing since didn't mind the results.

But it never made sense to me that Oswald could travel to Russia, get a job all by himself, marry, then travel to Mexico, meeting all these different people, and then shoots JFK, all planned by him with no help, and then has such an amateur escape plan.

[BroncoLifer]

I've been in the room he shot from and... well, Oswald must have been a stupidly good shooter to pull off those shots.

JFK had more enemies than the rest of the 20th century Presidents combined. If you were to put a gun to my head and ask me if I thought others were involved -- shooting or not -- I would hedge my bets and say yes.

I've also been to the room Oswald fired from and my main impression was of how small Dealey Plaza actually is and how much closer he was to JFK's limo than I realized. In person and with the naked eye, the whole area seems much smaller and close-in and helped me to realize that it did NOT require any stupidly good shooting, especially as he was USMC trained and had a telescopic sight on the rifle.

[Tombstone RJ]

For more about the book -- go to:

http://www.amazon.com/Me-Lee-Came-Harvey-Oswald/dp/1936296373/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1321903511&sr=1-1

the book title should be "Lee and Me" to be grammatically correct. Why even open the book if they can't even get the title right?

:wiggle:

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Read the book, dufus.
Oh I keep forgetting. Knee jerks like you don't read books -- you ridicule 'em-- and burn 'em. The march of the lemmings.
Trash like this, you got half of it right but I'd never buy it so no burning required.

When is the girlfriends' dog's book on Jack K. coming out?

[mhgaffney]

I've also been to the room Oswald fired from and my main impression was of how small Dealey Plaza actually is and how much closer he was to JFK's limo than I realized. In person and with the naked eye, the whole area seems much smaller and close-in and helped me to realize that it did NOT require any stupidly good shooting, especially as he was USMC trained and had a telescopic sight on the rifle.

The angle from the book depository was wrong -- to blow the back of JFK's head off. You can see this easily if you watch the Zapruder film. The kill shot was fired from the side -- the grassy knoll.

JFK was hit from at least three angles -- first the back shot just below his right shoulder. Then he was hit from the front -- in the neck. You can see his arms flail up to his throat in the Zapruder film. Then finally the kill shot that blew out the back of his head. But the bullet entered from the right from side of his head. No way someone in the book depository could have done it.

There was a fourth shot also -- that hit the curb. Four shots a lone gunman cannot make.

You clowns have forgotten (or maybe you never knew) that the last official investigation of the JFK murder -- by Congress in 1979 -- concluded that his death was a conspiracy. That conclusion should have sparked public outrage and a new criminal investigation. But America has been very effectively put to sleep.

ZZZ--ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[mhgaffney]

I forgot to mention that Judy Vary's new book Me and Lee includes an afterword by Jim Marrs, who wrote one of the best books about the JFK killing -- CROSSFIRE --

[Bronco_Beerslug]

You clowns have forgotten (or maybe you never knew) that the last official investigation of the JFK murder -- by Congress in 1979 -- concluded that his death was a conspiracy.
The only "clown" here is your paranoid arse. There has never been any proof that all the "conspirators" running around in your head killed Jack. There never will be.

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The sole acoustic evidence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Assassinat ions#Conclusions_regarding_the_JFK_assassination) relied on by the committee's experts to support its theory of a fourth gunshot (and a gunman on the grassy knoll) in the JFK assassination, was a Dictabelt recording alleged to be from a stuck transmitter on a police motorcycle in Dealey Plaza during the assassination. After the committee finished its work, however, an amateur researcher listened to the recording and discovered faint crosstalk of transmissions from another police radio channel known to have been made a minute after the assassination. This was supported by the National Academy of Science article.

Further, the Dallas motorcycle policeman thought to be the source of the sounds followed the motorcade to the hospital at high speed, his siren blaring, immediately after the shots were fired. Yet the recording is of a mostly idling motorcycle, eventually determined to have been at JFK's destination, the Trade Mart, miles from Dealey Plaza.

In 2001, this criticism of the Committee's acoustic evidence was rebutted in a Science and Justice article written by D.B. Thomas, a government scientist and JFK assassination researcher. He concluded the HSCA finding of a second shooter was correct and that the NAS panel's study was flawed. Thomas surmises that the Dictaphone needle jumped and created an overdub on Channel One.[3]

The 1981 Committee on Ballistic Acoustics was charged with reviewing the HSCA’s acoustic evidence , they concluded that the acoustic evidence of conspiracy was invalid. Donald Thomas who reportedly performed the first independent peer review of the HSCA’s work and who people think was “an expert on acoustic testing” never read Thomas’ own report on his work with the acoustic evidence in which he acknowledges that "he is not an acoustic expert." [4]

In 2003, computer animator Dale Myers used various films from the day of the shooting to plot the locations and speeds of the motorcycle police officers during the assassination, and concluded that no police motorcycles were anywhere near the precise microphone location on Houston Street required by the Committee's acoustic experts.[5] Myers' study confirmed the same misgivings voiced by HSCA photographic consultant Richard E. Sprague in 1978.

A majority of witnesses who testified on the source of the shots said they came from the direction of the Depository. However, many witnesses thought the shots came from the direction of the Knoll. Only five witnesses, from a total of over one hundred, thought the shots came from two directions simultaneously.[6]

[bronco0608]

They just proved the Oswald was the only one that fired the shots And he fired all three of them with HD mastered video of all the home movie films that day.

It's over consipracy nuts. A lone gunman named Lee Oswald shot President Kennedy and the Texas Governor. It's over.

the special is airing on national geo this week. It's called JFK: The lost Bullet.

Their investigation also concluded that the 3 shots were fired over 11 seconds. Not 3 shots in 6 seconds. The investigation concluded that all 3 shoots came from the Book Depository. Since they found Lee's gun with his finger prints and the 3 casings at that scene where he fired them and had been


Stop the nonsense. Your girlfriends book is more FOS than yours.

Well if National Geographic says its true, well garsh darn it, it must be true.

[mhgaffney]

The only "clown" here is your paranoid arse. There has never been any proof that all the "conspirators" running around in your head killed Jack. There never will be.

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The sole acoustic evidence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Assassinat ions#Conclusions_regarding_the_JFK_assassination) relied on by the committee's experts to support its theory of a fourth gunshot (and a gunman on the grassy knoll) in the JFK assassination, was a Dictabelt recording alleged to be from a stuck transmitter on a police motorcycle in Dealey Plaza during the assassination. After the committee finished its work, however, an amateur researcher listened to the recording and discovered faint crosstalk of transmissions from another police radio channel known to have been made a minute after the assassination. This was supported by the National Academy of Science article.

Further, the Dallas motorcycle policeman thought to be the source of the sounds followed the motorcade to the hospital at high speed, his siren blaring, immediately after the shots were fired. Yet the recording is of a mostly idling motorcycle, eventually determined to have been at JFK's destination, the Trade Mart, miles from Dealey Plaza.

In 2001, this criticism of the Committee's acoustic evidence was rebutted in a Science and Justice article written by D.B. Thomas, a government scientist and JFK assassination researcher. He concluded the HSCA finding of a second shooter was correct and that the NAS panel's study was flawed. Thomas surmises that the Dictaphone needle jumped and created an overdub on Channel One.[3]

The 1981 Committee on Ballistic Acoustics was charged with reviewing the HSCA’s acoustic evidence , they concluded that the acoustic evidence of conspiracy was invalid. Donald Thomas who reportedly performed the first independent peer review of the HSCA’s work and who people think was “an expert on acoustic testing” never read Thomas’ own report on his work with the acoustic evidence in which he acknowledges that "he is not an acoustic expert." [4]

In 2003, computer animator Dale Myers used various films from the day of the shooting to plot the locations and speeds of the motorcycle police officers during the assassination, and concluded that no police motorcycles were anywhere near the precise microphone location on Houston Street required by the Committee's acoustic experts.[5] Myers' study confirmed the same misgivings voiced by HSCA photographic consultant Richard E. Sprague in 1978.

A majority of witnesses who testified on the source of the shots said they came from the direction of the Depository. However, many witnesses thought the shots came from the direction of the Knoll. Only five witnesses, from a total of over one hundred, thought the shots came from two directions simultaneously.[6]

The problem is that knee jerks like you refuse to look at the evidence.

I suggest you check out Jim Douglass's 2008 book JFK and the Unspeakable.

[mhgaffney]

People who refuse to read books then make blanket statements like the above. It's silly -- and would be humorous if the times were not so dark.

It was former CIA chief Allen Dulles who famously said (when another member of the Warren Commission worried that the American people would see through the JFK cover up: "Don't worry. Americans don't read reports.."

It was true then. It continues to be true today (after 9/11).

[mhgaffney]

This should be a must read for every American -- esp knee jerks like beerslugger who still believe the lone nut scam.

MHG

JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters [Paperback]
James W. Douglass (Author) 2008

Here's one of 155 five-star reviews:

Quite possibly the most important piece of historical writing ever produced in America. We have deluded ourselves as a nation for far too long to think that this kind of thing cannot happen in our country. But it has. And it has led us to the uncomfortable truth of recognizing the forces that really run the United States and how they have subverted the entire notion of democracy.

by James C. Moore, co-author, "Bush's Brain: How Karl Rove

[NUB]

I've also been to the room Oswald fired from and my main impression was of how small Dealey Plaza actually is and how much closer he was to JFK's limo than I realized. In person and with the naked eye, the whole area seems much smaller and close-in and helped me to realize that it did NOT require any stupidly good shooting, especially as he was USMC trained and had a telescopic sight on the rifle.


Distance and firing the gun isn't really an issue. It's the oblique angle one would have to take trying to aim out of that window, particularly when you compare it to the street that is a simple parallel to the view. There's no way you got a good look at things and thought that was an easy shot to make. This was pulled off from Wikipedia and doesn't surprise me in the least:


Former U.S. Marine sniper Craig Roberts and Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock, who was the senior instructor for the U.S. Marine Corps Sniper Instructor School at Marine Corps Base Quantico in Quantico, Virginia, both said it could not be done as described by the FBI investigators. "Let me tell you what we did at Quantico," Hathcock said. "We reconstructed the whole thing: the angle, the range, the moving target, the time limit, the obstacles, everything. I don’t know how many times we tried it, but we couldn’t duplicate what the Warren Commission said Oswald did. Now if I can’t do it, how in the world could a guy who was a non-qual on the rifle range and later only qualified 'marksman' do it?"

[mhgaffney]

And don't forget the acoustics study -- which concluded there were 4 shots.

Impossible for a lone gunman -- even an ace shooter -- within the time frame.

[Rohirrim]

I think Oswald's gf is Gaffo's cougar.

[mhgaffney]

Ro missed his calling.

[SoCalBronco]

I think Oswald's gf is Gaffo's cougar.

Hilarious!