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Lolad
11-15-2011, 12:51 PM
This past Sunday vs the chiefs they played cover 1 on several plays. I believe vs. The jets they will play a lot of cover 1 and cover zero with little time to prepare for the game. How do we beat it? Can we beat it? Will McCoy trust Tebow to throw the ball?

epicSocialism4tw
11-15-2011, 12:54 PM
Bust 'em in the chops.

When they get up, bust 'em again.

TheReverend
11-15-2011, 01:00 PM
Same way we've been doing it.

Throw deep enough to shake them up and abuse them with the running game.

People can call us a "one dimensional offense" all day. It doesn't change the fact that even without the passing game it's a 2 dimensional rushing attack game.

Inkana7
11-15-2011, 01:04 PM
Run the hurry-up and do what we've been doing.

Lolad
11-15-2011, 01:05 PM
Does it really need to be deep throws, I think Tebow throws an accurate 20-25 yard pass if a receiver is streaking across the middle. I know we need to keep them honest but ill take a high percentage 25 yard gain over a missed deep bomb

epicSocialism4tw
11-15-2011, 01:08 PM
Same way we've been doing it.

Throw deep enough to shake them up and abuse them with the running game.

People can call us a "one dimensional offense" all day. It doesn't change the fact that even without the passing game it's a 2 dimensional rushing attack game.

It will be interesting to see if a pattern emerges where the Broncos offense begins to break down the LOS in the fourth quarter of home games.

Fox has implemented ZBS, triple option, and read option among other plays to the rushing game. The players making the defensive calls are not used to recognizing such a varied run game with two punishing ball carriers on the option...one of which is a threat to throw downfield.

If you get those fat fatties moving east and west all over the place and unable to see the blocking scheme headed their way...they'll potentially be gassed by the fourth quarter. Then you just plow a way and rub their noses in the dirt.

I imagine that there are alot of coaches who would like to be able to run this kind of offense, but the QB's in the NFL are generally so concerned about their own statistics (like their counterparts at WR) that they would pout all day if they only threw the ball 10-20 times a game.

Jetmeck
11-15-2011, 01:13 PM
As many have said, do what you do . Running the ball right at them will play AWAY from strengths on defense. Were gonna win !

jhns
11-15-2011, 01:16 PM
If it wee me, I would come out and pass around five straight times. I doubt they would expect it. Aftef that, go back to what we have been doing.

Rohirrim
11-15-2011, 01:17 PM
Do what Tom Brady did; Take them apart with your passing attack...





wait a minute. ;D

TheReverend
11-15-2011, 01:20 PM
It will be interesting to see if a pattern emerges where the Broncos offense begins to break down the LOS in the fourth quarter of home games.

Fox has implemented ZBS, triple option, and read option among other plays to the rushing game. The players making the defensive calls are not used to recognizing such a varied run game with two punishing ball carriers on the option...one of which is a threat to throw downfield.

If you get those fat fatties moving east and west all over the place and unable to see the blocking scheme headed their way...they'll potentially be gassed by the fourth quarter. Then you just plow a way and rub their noses in the dirt.

I imagine that there are alot of coaches who would like to be able to run this kind of offense, but the QB's in the NFL are generally so concerned about their own statistics (like their counterparts at WR) that they would pout all day if they only threw the ball 10-20 times a game.

It is a LOT to react to.

I expect Rex to try and take that away and attempt to dictate the tempo of the game himself by putting coverage on his secondary and attacking Tebow and ____ (insert RB) relentlessly with the front seven.

I expect the NT and ILBs play inside out and I expect the DEs to crash C gaps with the OLBs playing contain. All of this with a very regular basis.

Hopefully McCoy implements some quick hits to the TE over the middle in the same look of the zone read. Would go for good gains this week, imo.

Rohirrim
11-15-2011, 01:23 PM
Belichick beat them by lining up a bunch of four and five receiver sets (incl. Grownkowski, of course) with an empty backfield and Brady in the shotgun. Do we even have five receivers? And would Tebow be able to handle that many routes?


I say we stick with the run and occasionally throw a bomb. ;D

TheReverend
11-15-2011, 01:24 PM
Belichick beat them by lining up a bunch of four and five receiver sets (incl. Grownkowski, of course) with an empty backfield and Brady in the shotgun. Do we even have five receivers? And would Tebow be able to handle that many routes?


I say we stick with the run and occasionally throw a bomb. ;D

Yeah. Tebow would be really uncomfortable in the shotgun wouldn't he?!

::)

epicSocialism4tw
11-15-2011, 01:24 PM
It is a LOT to react to.

I expect Rex to try and take that away and attempt to dictate the tempo of the game himself by putting coverage on his secondary and attacking Tebow and ____ (insert RB) relentlessly with the front seven.

I expect the NT and ILBs play inside out and I expect the DEs to crash C gaps with the OLBs playing contain. All of this with a very regular basis.

Hopefully McCoy implements some quick hits to the TE over the middle in the same look of the zone read. Would go for good gains this week, imo.

I betcha we'll see the jump pass or a play like it this week.

That One Guy
11-15-2011, 01:29 PM
Run the hurry-up and do what we've been doing.

This is interesting. I wasn't able to actually see most of last week's game but did they do a lot of hurry up? It seems if they're just gonna run variants of the same play with a read built in, why worry about huddling?

edog24
11-15-2011, 01:30 PM
So do I play Tebow or Flacco for my fantasy team? I just lost Schaub for the season so I am stuck between these two. I also picked up Dalton as well just for good measure.

RaiderH8r
11-15-2011, 01:33 PM
Belichick beat them by lining up a bunch of four and five receiver sets (incl. Grownkowski, of course) with an empty backfield and Brady in the shotgun. Do we even have five receivers? And would Tebow be able to handle that many routes?


I say we stick with the run and occasionally throw a bomb. ;D

We did but then we shipped Gaffney for garbage and Lloyd for a 6th rounder (keep chucking him the ball though).

I watch Rodgers and the plays his receivers make on the ball, going up and getting jump balls and making tough grabs in traffic and I look at our guys who...well...don't.

I'm still waiting for DT to go up and make the grabs, take the top off of D's, take the swing pass for a 5-15 yd gain. Anything from the guy really.

At this point, would you be willing to give Tebow a pass on throwing a pick or two if it meant getting the ball into more tight spots and relying on our guys to go get it?

It seems to me that when Tebow does throw to receivers (and when they catch it) they tend to be WIDE open. He throws with a hesitancy that seems to me that he either doesn't have the faith his guys will go get the ball or the leash to allow himself to put the ball into a dangerous spot and risk a pick in the hopes our WRs make a big play.

I really want to see DT blossom. I want a big, strong WR that we can just heave the ball to when he's in single coverage and know he's going to grab that sumbitch for a big gain and really DT is the only guy on our roster that fits that bill. Decker and Royal are posession guys. Well Decker is. Royal is too busy keeping defenders company to really be a threat. ;D

Doggcow
11-15-2011, 01:34 PM
Throw one bomb a quarter. See if they can guess which one it is XD

That One Guy
11-15-2011, 01:35 PM
So do I play Tebow or Flacco for my fantasy team? I just lost Schaub for the season so I am stuck between these two. I also picked up Dalton as well just for good measure.

Oh God... I'd take a shot with the Ginger. Tebow will have you some running yards but I could see that game being one of FGs. If we start getting blown out and he has to start throwing a lot, it could get rough, as well. Ginger is the most consistent. Tebow is the boom/bust candidate. I don't like Flacco.

peacepipe
11-15-2011, 01:37 PM
We did but then we shipped Gaffney for garbage and Lloyd for a 6th rounder (keep chucking him the ball though).

I watch Rodgers and the plays his receivers make on the ball, going up and getting jump balls and making tough grabs in traffic and I look at our guys who...well...don't.

I'm still waiting for DT to go up and make the grabs, take the top off of D's, take the swing pass for a 5-15 yd gain. Anything from the guy really.

At this point, would you be willing to give Tebow a pass on throwing a pick or two if it meant getting the ball into more tight spots and relying on our guys to go get it?

It seems to me that when Tebow does throw to receivers (and when they catch it) they tend to be WIDE open. He throws with a hesitancy that seems to me that he either doesn't have the faith his guys will go get the ball or the leash to allow himself to put the ball into a dangerous spot and risk a pick in the hopes our WRs make a big play.

I really want to see DT blossom. I want a big, strong WR that we can just heave the ball to when he's in single coverage and know he's going to grab that sumb**** for a big gain and really DT is the only guy on our roster that fits that bill. Decker and Royal are posession guys. Well Decker is. Royal is too busy keeping defenders company to really be a threat. ;Dare you kidding me, are you trying to say tebow is on the same level as rodgers but because he doesn't have good recievers he doesn't look as good?

Doggcow
11-15-2011, 01:38 PM
So do I play Tebow or Flacco for my fantasy team? I just lost Schaub for the season so I am stuck between these two. I also picked up Dalton as well just for good measure.

I'd go Tebow this week cuz of those rushing yards. Those are 3 rough matchups.

bendog
11-15-2011, 01:39 PM
I suggest prayer. (ok it's lame but dang just leave one hanging there for me.)

WolfpackGuy
11-15-2011, 01:40 PM
The offense won't have to do anything other than not turn it over.

Put the game in Sanchez' hands and watch the implosion.

epicSocialism4tw
11-15-2011, 01:41 PM
are you kidding me, are you trying to say tebow is on the same level as rodgers but because he doesn't have good recievers he doesn't look as good?

That's obviously not what he's saying.

epicSocialism4tw
11-15-2011, 01:42 PM
The offense won't have to do anything other than not turn it over.

Put the game in Sanchez' hands and watch the implosion.

Yep.

I'm pretty well convinced that Tebow is already a better pro QB than Sanchez.

HorseHead
11-15-2011, 01:44 PM
sounds crazy...but throw at Kyle Wilson...the kid from Boise St...

yes, I said "throw"...

beardedwonder
11-15-2011, 01:47 PM
Pound it up the middle 3 times and let warden Bailey and the D keep plexico and the jets in the slammer

bronco militia
11-15-2011, 01:48 PM
What should the O do vs a Rex Ryan defense?

as Rex Ryan wood say, "run it up their ****ing asses"

http://static.hypervocal.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/rex-ryan.jpg

bendog
11-15-2011, 01:50 PM
What should the O do vs a Rex Ryan defense?

as Rex Ryan wood say, "run it up their ****ing asses"

http://static.hypervocal.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/rex-ryan.jpg

Run it UP my ****ing ass ... hard and dry, baby!

fixed it

Play2win
11-15-2011, 01:50 PM
Run the hurry-up and do what we've been doing.

Running the No-Huddle + Read-Option really might be a winner in NFL nowdays. NFL defense are geared for the pass so much, and would cut down on all the mass-substitutions NFL defenses do. Maybe it would limit the D-coordinator's playbook.

TheReverend
11-15-2011, 01:52 PM
What should the O do vs a Rex Ryan defense?

as Rex Ryan wood say, "run it up their ****ing asses"

http://static.hypervocal.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/rex-ryan.jpg

...nice.

broncosteven
11-15-2011, 02:26 PM
I feel a HB(WR?) option pass coming this week, just hope we have a back or WR who can throw the ball.

ludo21
11-15-2011, 02:48 PM
I feel a HB(WR?) option pass coming this week, just hope we have a back or WR who can throw the ball.

ive seen mcgahee throw once in Baltimore, it could work...

Question should be, whats a Jets D going to do against a Broncos O!? ;D

cutthemdown
11-15-2011, 02:52 PM
It will be interesting to see if a pattern emerges where the Broncos offense begins to break down the LOS in the fourth quarter of home games.

Fox has implemented ZBS, triple option, and read option among other plays to the rushing game. The players making the defensive calls are not used to recognizing such a varied run game with two punishing ball carriers on the option...one of which is a threat to throw downfield.

If you get those fat fatties moving east and west all over the place and unable to see the blocking scheme headed their way...they'll potentially be gassed by the fourth quarter. Then you just plow a way and rub their noses in the dirt.

I imagine that there are alot of coaches who would like to be able to run this kind of offense, but the QB's in the NFL are generally so concerned about their own statistics (like their counterparts at WR) that they would pout all day if they only threw the ball 10-20 times a game.

Thats what I have seen. These big DT and DE are great at shedding blocks and being stout, even rushing the passer, but really you need to be quick and agile to defend the option. It's like once they choose wrong we get a big play because they can't react fast enough, then our oline has the advantage and smacks them in the mouth.

Once they are flat footed, going one way, trying to come back the other way these big players fall apart.

I do think a team like Pitt with crazy linebackers and safetys could stop us cold though. Just my opinion.

TheChamp24
11-15-2011, 02:53 PM
I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see the Jets trot out 5 DL, 3 LB, 1 Safety and 2 CB's on defense playing with an 8 man front all game.
I really don't know why they wouldn't. I mean seriously, we've been crap passing the ball. Try as much as possible to take the run away by beefing up the front.

That said, IMO the key would be to see what kind of defense they come out in, and then either use a heavy set ground and pound run game, or spread them out.

cutthemdown
11-15-2011, 02:54 PM
ive seen mcgahee throw once in Baltimore, it could work...

Question should be, whats a Jets D going to do against a Broncos O!? ;D

I think they go small, and try and run blitz to disrupt the option. They will put a shadow on Tebow and tell that player to just go for him on every run play etc etc. The thing is Tebow can win a 1-1 battle a lot of times.

Will be hard for a defense to stop the Broncos inside running with macgahee if they commit too much to stopping Tebow from taking it outside. Really it sucks as a d coord to know the QB is a threat to run it. It throws off everything they like to do.

cutthemdown
11-15-2011, 02:55 PM
I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see the Jets trot out 5 DL, 3 LB, 1 Safety and 2 CB's on defense playing with an 8 man front all game.
I really don't know why they wouldn't. I mean seriously, we've been crap passing the ball. Try as much as possible to take the run away by beefing up the front.

That said, IMO the key would be to see what kind of defense they come out in, and then either use a heavy set ground and pound run game, or spread them out.

I think it would be more like 3 dlineman, 5 backers, 2 cb and a safety.

razorwire77
11-15-2011, 02:55 PM
Footboy's defense is going to get really aggressive with trying to overload the LOS. I think you work in a couple of hard bootlegs and take some shots down the field. Get Tebow out of the pocket with one safety valve read underneath, and one deep read to try to get Royal or Thomas deep on the outside in one on one situations with Cromartie. If nether are there, let Timmy take off with the ball and get 4 or 5 yards with his feet.

cutthemdown
11-15-2011, 02:56 PM
But if ryan cant come up with something and Tebow runs all over them, people are going to start asking questions about whether he is changing the game.

cutthemdown
11-15-2011, 02:57 PM
Footboy's defense is going to get really aggressive with trying to overload the LOS. I think you work in a couple of hard bootlegs and take some shots down the field. Get Tebow out of the pocket with one safety valve read underneath, one deep read to try to get Royal or Thomas deep on the outside in one on one situations with Cromartie. If nether are there, let Timmy take off with the ball and get 4 or 5 yards with his feet.

I like the idea of moving the pocket then flooding every zone on that side with an option for Tebow. We used to do that for Plummer a lot. Made field easier for him to read.

Rohirrim
11-15-2011, 02:58 PM
Yeah. Tebow would be really uncomfortable in the shotgun wouldn't he?!

::)

Yeah, that was my point. :oyvey:

Tebow does great out of the shotgun, as long he's running the option from it. Reading down through five receivers? Ain't gonna happen.

Like Fox said, "If we were trying to run a regular offense, he'd be screwed."

bendog
11-15-2011, 03:04 PM
I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see the Jets trot out 5 DL, 3 LB, 1 Safety and 2 CB's on defense playing with an 8 man front all game.
I really don't know why they wouldn't. I mean seriously, we've been crap passing the ball. Try as much as possible to take the run away by beefing up the front.

That said, IMO the key would be to see what kind of defense they come out in, and then either use a heavy set ground and pound run game, or spread them out.

yeah, they'll have to spread them out. Options and even triple option to Royal. Couple of ways of looking at this: negative - since it's a lot of cover 1 or even no safety help (I haven't seen that myself) just running in going against the defense strength; positive - the corners are probably two of their best four defenders, and aside from being run contain, they're taken out of the game, and if D.Thomas can get on the field, Den has two WR's who can block those guys

I guess the biggest question before the game is whether Fox will pass. If I'm him, I don't do it except to change it up. If Rex makes me by bringing both safties up, and just going man with no safety help, then I'd take a shot with Decker or Fells deep. Royals? I'd almost rather see him in the slot as a triple option/reverse threat and put Willis out there since Tebow was throwing to him with the third group.

TheReverend
11-15-2011, 03:06 PM
Yeah, that was my point. :oyvey:

Tebow does great out of the shotgun, as long he's running the option from it. Reading down through five receivers? Ain't gonna happen.

Like Fox said, "If we were trying to run a regular offense, he'd be screwed."

I think you missed a couple things.

1. Sarcasm

2. That Tebow's base offense since HS has been throwing from a spread...

Dedhed
11-15-2011, 03:08 PM
are you kidding me, are you trying to say tebow is on the same level as rodgers but because he doesn't have good recievers he doesn't look as good?

Only a troll like you could read that and then come to this conclusion. Dork.

Dedhed
11-15-2011, 03:12 PM
I think we'll have to throw more to beat the Jets, and I'm looking forward to seeing it. I think the Coaches are intrigued by building a Tebow offense, and if they can add some pass plays that he's comfortable with on top of the read option it will be interesting to see whether his comfort level throwing the ball improves.

edog24
11-15-2011, 03:20 PM
I'd go Tebow this week cuz of those rushing yards. Those are 3 rough matchups.

The homer in me wants to go with Tebow, just because I can.

Turd_Ferguson
11-15-2011, 03:22 PM
2. That Tebow's base offense since HS has been throwing from a spread...

I would argue that Tebow's base offense since HS has been designed to avoid him having to throw the ball. I think the best hope this week is for them to run run run punt and hope the Defense comes up big.

Sunday night the Patriots loaded up with lots 4 and 5 wide out sets to keep the Jets in Nickle and Dime, which kept guys like Bart Scott off the field, and made their safety smith come up and play linebacker... That would be our best chance for tebow and the run game. If the offense does a lot of passing i see big games for Revis, Cromartie, Wilson, and Leonard.

KO5K
11-15-2011, 03:27 PM
I would argue that Tebow's base offense since HS has been designed to avoid him having to throw the ball. I think the best hope this week is for them to run run run punt and hope the Defense comes up big.

Awful post.

Powderaddict
11-15-2011, 03:29 PM
One thing I love is how exciting and new this all is.

I love that Fox is not afraid to do something so unconventional at this level. So much for being a conservative coach.

I love the idea of wearing out opponents and playing a physical, tough game.

I love the idea that the Broncos are relevant for what they are doing on the field, and not JUST becuase of #15 being on the sidelines.

I love we are only 1 game out of first. I love that everyone seems to be "against us". I love being the weird kid on the block.

I love that we have matched our win total from last year and have 7 to go.

Good job Fox & Co!!

mkporter
11-15-2011, 03:43 PM
So do I play Tebow or Flacco for my fantasy team? I just lost Schaub for the season so I am stuck between these two. I also picked up Dalton as well just for good measure.

Tebow is actually a pretty safe fantasy play most weeks because he usually gets his running yards, and always scores at least one TD either throwing or running. In his 7 starts, he has scored less than 20 pts (6pts/passing TD) only twice: 15 or so pts against Detroit, and 18-19 against the chorfs last weekend. Think about how bad the Detroit game was, and he still got decent points.

I think this week might be a tough matchup for him, but I'd still be surprised if he doesn't get at least 15 pts. Flacco and Dalton play each other, and they both have pretty good defenses, so I'm not super positive on either.

TheReverend
11-15-2011, 03:48 PM
I would argue that Tebow's base offense since HS has been designed to avoid him having to throw the ball. I think the best hope this week is for them to run run run punt and hope the Defense comes up big.

Sunday night the Patriots loaded up with lots 4 and 5 wide out sets to keep the Jets in Nickle and Dime, which kept guys like Bart Scott off the field, and made their safety smith come up and play linebacker... That would be our best chance for tebow and the run game. If the offense does a lot of passing i see big games for Revis, Cromartie, Wilson, and Leonard.

If only there were SOME way we could check statistically.......................























TIM TEBOW STATS Passing Rushing
Statistics Att Comp Pct Yds TD Int Rating Att Yds Avg TD
2009 314 213 67.8 2,895 21 5 164.2 217 910 4.2 14
2008 298 192 64.4 2,746 30 4 172.4 176 673 3.8 12
2007 350 234 66.9 3,286 32 6 172.5 210 895 4.3 23

3/5th of his dropbacks as a collegiate starter were to throw the ball, not to run it.

mkporter
11-15-2011, 03:48 PM
I would argue that Tebow's base offense since HS has been designed to avoid him having to throw the ball. I think the best hope this week is for them to run run run punt and hope the Defense comes up big.


Why exactly would you argue that?

29522

mkporter
11-15-2011, 03:56 PM
If only there were SOME way we could check statistically.......................


TIM TEBOW STATS Passing Rushing
Statistics Att Comp Pct Yds TD Int Rating Att Yds Avg TD
2009 314 213 67.8 2,895 21 5 164.2 217 910 4.2 14
2008 298 192 64.4 2,746 30 4 172.4 176 673 3.8 12
2007 350 234 66.9 3,286 32 6 172.5 210 895 4.3 23

3/5th of his dropbacks as a collegiate starter were to throw the ball, not to run it.


Beat me to it. Although to be fair, Florida did have some non-Tebow running plays, so the 3/5 number is high. The point still holds that if you didn't look at his rushing stats, you'd still have to be impressed.

bendog
11-15-2011, 03:56 PM
Why exactly would you argue that?

29522

Look I saw so many SEC Fla games back then, but that offense was not about passing. In many ways, Tebow was picking the guy before the snap to carry the ball with five possible runners. I'm not dissing him, but saying Tebow threw at Fla is a long way from saying Fox should trust him to throw deep against Cromarte and Revis with single coverage and win the game that way. McCoy's got him dealing the ball off to guys similar to what he did in college, but it doesn't compare to how Payton has Brees dealing balls off to five different guys.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-15-2011, 04:10 PM
Look I saw so many SEC Fla games back then, but that offense was not about passing. In many ways, Tebow was picking the guy before the snap to carry the ball with five possible runners. I'm not dissing him, but saying Tebow threw at Fla is a long way from saying Fox should trust him to throw deep against Cromarte and Revis with single coverage and win the game that way. McCoy's got him dealing the ball off to guys similar to what he did in college, but it doesn't compare to how Payton has Brees dealing balls off to five different guys.

I dont think its a secret that he's a better runner than thrower...its this belief that he's completely incapable of doing it that is puzzling.

TheReverend
11-15-2011, 04:11 PM
Beat me to it. Although to be fair, Florida did have some non-Tebow running plays, so the 3/5 number is high. The point still holds that if you didn't look at his rushing stats, you'd still have to be impressed.

Dropbacks, sir :)

Turd_Ferguson
11-15-2011, 04:12 PM
Why exactly would you argue that?

29522

Well probably the same things that make John Fox say this.....

“We decided if Tim [Tebow] is going to be our guy, we can’t do that other crap,” told Jeff Darlington of NFL.com. “We had to tweak it.”

And by that other crap, he means run anything approaching a conventional NFL offense. You know, one that includes completing a few passes.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/15/john-fox-on-broncos-offense-we-cant-do-that-other-crap/

mkporter
11-15-2011, 04:12 PM
Look I saw so many SEC Fla games back then, but that offense was not about passing. In many ways, Tebow was picking the guy before the snap to carry the ball with five possible runners. I'm not dissing him, but saying Tebow threw at Fla is a long way from saying Fox should trust him to throw deep against Cromarte and Revis with single coverage and win the game that way. McCoy's got him dealing the ball off to guys similar to what he did in college, but it doesn't compare to how Payton has Brees dealing balls off to five different guys.

Wasn't really disagreeing with you. Tebow, like a lot of young QBs, benefits from having easier reads. Although, just because you have 4-5 WRs in the formation doesn't mean that they all are involved in the play. Tebow may only have a two stage read with a formation like that. My point was more directed at the comment that coaches have always tried to keep Tebow from throwing the ball.

teknic
11-15-2011, 04:15 PM
Yep.

I'm pretty well convinced that Tebow is already a better pro QB than Sanchez.

Sanchez is a little better as a passer. As I noted in another thread, he's very similar to Kyle Orton.

broncolife
11-15-2011, 06:04 PM
All Rex has to do is put a girl to spy on Tebow and he will never score :) jk

TheReverend
11-15-2011, 06:10 PM
All Rex has to do is put a girl to spy on Tebow and he will never score :) jk

http://anomalouspropagation.com/files/page0_blog_entry34-mj-laughing.gif

oubronco
11-15-2011, 06:14 PM
CiDtD

Bronx33
11-15-2011, 06:20 PM
pass every down ( they will never see it coming)

RaiderH8r
11-15-2011, 06:22 PM
are you kidding me, are you trying to say tebow is on the same level as rodgers but because he doesn't have good recievers he doesn't look as good?

No. I am saying our WRs don't make plays on tough balls, jump balls etc. they don't make plays in traffic and have difficulty pulling down catches with defenders nearby.

I am also saying that Tebow seems so timid in his delivery because he is afraid of throwing the pick (his "week to week" status doesn't exactly scream confidence) and rather than risk putting the ball in a tight space and trusting his WRs to make a play he pulls it down and runs.

In short, our WR corps does not seem to have many play makers in it since Lloyd and Gaffney left. Certainly Decker is doing well and growing but if DT grows into the WR he should be we could be a dangerous team once we add a passing game to this offense. It is waiting DT to be a big play guy with his size. A guy who can jump up and come down with the 40 yd. pass down field with a CB on his back.

RaiderH8r
11-15-2011, 06:23 PM
What should the O do vs a Rex Ryan defense?

as Rex Ryan wood say, "run it up their ****ing asses"

http://static.hypervocal.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/rex-ryan.jpg

Or, as he would say, "Let's go get a god damned snack"

Or

"yeah, sniff them feet."

mkporter
11-15-2011, 06:31 PM
Well probably the same things that make John Fox say this.....

“We decided if Tim [Tebow] is going to be our guy, we can’t do that other crap,” told Jeff Darlington of NFL.com. “We had to tweak it.”

And by that other crap, he means run anything approaching a conventional NFL offense. You know, one that includes completing a few passes.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/15/john-fox-on-broncos-offense-we-cant-do-that-other-crap/

So the fact the Florida offense was not designed to keep him from throwing the football, does not alter your argument that, "Tebow's base offense since HS has been designed to avoid him having to throw the ball"? Curious.

lod01
11-15-2011, 06:33 PM
**** their pants.

vonqkilla
11-15-2011, 07:43 PM
DT is strong enough to get open vs the physical cbs. Royal can beat Kyle Wilson in slot just like branch did. Not sure Decker is gonna much, Id move him around, maybe put JT outside of Decker who comes in motion, creating a mismatch for one of them.

Use Playaction alot, and no huddle.

Target JT and Fells at least 4 times combined esp if they play cover 1, Gronkowski exposed them.

Id also like to see a jetsweep reverse flicker, or a fake jet sweep screen back to the side of motion wr, or a fade to that side.

First play Id go play action and get a quick pass just to set the tone that we will be balanced.

Garcia Bronco
11-15-2011, 08:00 PM
As we run more and if we are successful, other teams playing us will have run more.

errand
11-15-2011, 08:31 PM
I think what will hurt the Jets more is our defense getting to Sanchez early and often...they had 7 trying to block 3 or 4 and he was sacked 4.5 times by Rubin Carter's son Andre alone...and he toss two picks one for a TD.

Tomlinson is out supposedly...if we can stop their run game and get to Sanchez, we should prevail at home...crowd needs to be very loud and hostile too.

cutthemdown
11-15-2011, 08:40 PM
Since the Jets have a big run stuffing DT I think Broncos will run the duck option some. Not sure if that is the right term exactly but that is how I remember it. Basically you use a FB and a RB. The FB dives straight at the NT and the first option, makes the DT commit, then you have the rb option outside or the qb off the dend.

RaiderH8r
11-15-2011, 08:41 PM
I think what will hurt the Jets more is our defense getting to Sanchez early and often...they had 7 trying to block 3 or 4 and he was sacked 4.5 times by Rubin Carter's son Andre alone...and he toss two picks one for a TD.

Tomlinson is out supposedly...if we can stop their run game and get to Sanchez, we should prevail at home...crowd needs to be very loud and hostile too.

And if a Jets player jumps into the stands after a TD they need to throw that clown out on his head.

strafen
11-15-2011, 08:42 PM
I dont think its a secret that he's a better runner than thrower...its this belief that he's completely incapable of doing it that is puzzling.I agree. The only way Tebow is going to master the passing game is working it on Sundays.
Having a game plan that truncates the passing game is not the way to go about, especially with Tebow needing so much work and confidence.
Once he starts throwing the ball and getting some completions he will start to get into a groove.
The way they're bringing Tebow up is just retarded...