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vonqkilla
11-13-2011, 02:49 PM
I am stoked we won, and thrilled TT stopped playing 500 and finally threw an accurate pass. The wr screen got him going I guess.

Anyway, bring on the jets. I still think we beat them if Elvis was healthy for just one play vs them last year.

Sanchez is garbage, its a home game, and Dennis Allen has the D balling. We have a great shot at beating them. Are they better than last year? No. Rex has gone back to ground and pound. If we continue our great rush d, and let loose the ends, blitzes, we can win. Jets oline will test our DTs, but I am confident.

The biggest question, obviously is our offense and 15. Gonna need 24+ pts I think.

Hopefully McGahee is ok.

Bottomline, we are in this!!! Feels great! Bring on slow ass plax, champ on holmes, Woodyard and dj vs Keller.

You want ground and pound, we are gonna bring it.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 02:51 PM
I kinda wanna see Tim scramble for a first down, get knocked out of bounds, and straight into Rex.

Broncoman13
11-13-2011, 02:53 PM
I am stoked we won, and thrilled TT stopped playing 500 and finally threw an accurate pass. The wr screen got him going I guess.

Anyway, bring on the jets. I still think we beat them if Elvis was healthy for just one play vs them last year.

Sanchez is garbage, its a home game, and Dennis Allen has the D balling. We have a great shot at beating them. Are they better than last year? No. Rex has gone back to ground and pound. If we continue our great rush d, and let loose the ends, blitzes, we can win. Jets oline will test our DTs, but I am confident.

The biggest question, obviously is our offense and 15. Gonna need 24+ pts I think.

Hopefully McGahee is ok.

Bottomline, we are in this!!! Feels great! Bring on slow ass plax, champ on holmes, Woodyard and dj vs Keller.

You want ground and pound, we are gonna bring it.

I thought we were going to lose today Mr. Drama???

Que
11-13-2011, 02:53 PM
Brave prediction: We throw 7 out of our 10 first plays on Thursday and the second one is deep.

Jetmeck
11-13-2011, 02:55 PM
gROUND AND POUND REX ? wE will show you how ?

TDmvp
11-13-2011, 02:56 PM
GET out your FEET JOKES !!! ... Cause Rex love him some feet.

TDmvp
11-13-2011, 03:03 PM
http://www.thecampussocialite.com/wp-content/uploads/rex-ryan-feet.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 03:17 PM
We have the players to pressure Sanchez into turnovers.

This could be a massive win for the Broncos.

beardedwonder
11-13-2011, 03:22 PM
How do u avoid the jets secondary?

Run the ball 50 times.. Lets hope we have someone to run the ball

Hamrob
11-13-2011, 03:24 PM
This is a huge game...that we will be the under-dog in.

We will need to play better than we did today. Sanchez isn't Tom Brady, but he's a lot better than cassell. And the Jet's WR's can at least catch the ball.

Plus, the Jets have a much better Defense than do the Chiefs.

We need to be more balanced on offense
We need to get pressure on Sanchez
We need to hope that our RB's get healthy quick
We need Prater to start capitalizing on easy fg's

elsid13
11-13-2011, 03:34 PM
This is going to be a tough game because the Jets have two corners they can leave in man all game and put the rest in the box to stop the run. The good news it is a short week and a home game for Denver.

cutthemdown
11-13-2011, 03:55 PM
This is going to be a tough game because the Jets have two corners they can leave in man all game and put the rest in the box to stop the run. The good news it is a short week and a home game for Denver.

But also we don't throw much anyways so it sort of makes 2 of their best players not as big of a factor as say in a NE game. All these teams with tons of dbacks, we spread it out, they have to cover them, it makes them at a disadvantage when we go big on the oline.

Besides even today our WR had 1 on 1 all day deep. Not sure what your point is.

Jesterhole
11-13-2011, 03:57 PM
I am stoked we won, and thrilled TT stopped playing 500 and finally threw an accurate pass. The wr screen got him going I guess.


If you're going to start a freakin' thread, at least don't be wrong. Most of his passes were accurate today. He had 4 drops...four...and one pass that was well defended. In fact, he only threw one bad pass today.

But hey, why actually be correct about anything? It might take away from your 'awesome' thread...

vonqkilla
11-13-2011, 04:00 PM
Fox said he wanted 30 runs, 20 passes.

Hopefully we saves a lot.

I saw the same play 3 or 4 times.

Jet sweep right w/ royal twice? A nice play off that is a reverse and maybe a toss back for a pass.

Regardless, we showed almost nothing today.

Broncoman13
11-13-2011, 04:10 PM
Fox said he wanted 30 runs, 20 passes.

Hopefully we saves a lot.

I saw the same play 3 or 4 times.

Jet sweep right w/ royal twice? A nice play off that is a reverse and maybe a toss back for a pass.

Regardless, we showed almost nothing today.

You still sad that we won? Go back and watch the game and tell me Tebow was inaccurate all game. The only poor throw he had was the quick out that he threw in the dirt... And I'm not sure that he saw there was nothing open and dirted it. Tebow isn't turning the ball over, that is important to note and something you Tebow haters conveniently leave out of your "assessments".

vonqkilla
11-13-2011, 04:15 PM
If you're going to start a freakin' thread, at least don't be wrong. Most of his passes were accurate today. He had 4 drops...four...and one pass that was well defended. In fact, he only threw one bad pass today.

But hey, why actually be correct about anything? It might take away from your 'awesome' thread...

Lol. Some of the lack of basic football acumen here is ridiculous. From Carter shying away from a big hit, to this, cmon.

One on one jump balls do not = accurate.

Accurate = leading your reciever to the open green in the endzone. Not playing 500...

oubronco
11-13-2011, 04:17 PM
You still sad that we won? Go back and watch the game and tell me Tebow was inaccurate all game. The only poor throw he had was the quick out that he threw in the dirt... And I'm not sure that he saw there was nothing open and dirted it. Tebow isn't turning the ball over, that is important to note and something you Tebow haters conveniently leave out of your "assessments".

What about the throw when Decker was behind the Queefs defense and Tim underthrew it, Decker had to slow up and their defender knocked it out. Was that a good pass?

vonqkilla
11-13-2011, 04:24 PM
You still sad that we won? Go back and watch the game and tell me Tebow was inaccurate all game. The only poor throw he had was the quick out that he threw in the dirt... And I'm not sure that he saw there was nothing open and dirted it. Tebow isn't turning the ball over, that is important to note and something you Tebow haters conveniently leave out of your "assessments".

You got me all wrong. I rock a #15 every week. Love Tebow. Doesnt mean I wont call him out for underthrowing and not leading Decker 3 times.

Again, just because in one on one coverage, a wr gets hands on it does not equal accurate. NFL qbs kill cover one and one on one coverage with accuarate passes only the reciever can catch.

Jumpballs like playing 500 are 50/50 balls.

Thats why Deck caught the one....

IT WAS ACCURATE!!!!

Shouldn't have to explain that.

Jesterhole
11-13-2011, 04:24 PM
Lol. Some of the lack of basic football acumen here is ridiculous. From Carter shying away from a big hit, to this, cmon.

One on one jump balls do not = accurate.

Accurate = leading your reciever to the open green in the endzone. Not playing 500...

Oooohhh...you're a moron. OK, thanks.

OrangeSe7en
11-13-2011, 04:26 PM
What about the throw when Decker was behind the Queefs defense and Tim underthrew it, Decker had to slow up and their defender knocked it out. Was that a good pass?

Florida beat Oklahoma. Get over it already.

GreatBronco16
11-13-2011, 04:27 PM
What about the throw when Decker was behind the Queefs defense and Tim underthrew it, Decker had to slow up and their defender knocked it out. Was that a good pass?

You talking about the first deep ball thrown in the game by Tebow?

Then yes, it was a good throw, not great, but he made a good throw. Lloyd comes down with that ball 10 out of 10 times.

That is one of our problems with the pass. We don't have a threat at WR. Tebow has to damn near make 'perfect' passes for these guys to catch them.

oubronco
11-13-2011, 04:27 PM
You talking about the first deep ball thrown in the game by Tebow?

Then yes, it was a good throw, not great, but he made a good throw. Lloyd comes down with that ball 10 out of 10 times.

That is one of our problems with the pass. We don't have a threat at WR. Tebow has to damn near make 'perfect' passes for these guys to catch them.

No the one where he had an easy TD but underthrew it

Archer81
11-13-2011, 04:28 PM
What about the throw when Decker was behind the Queefs defense and Tim underthrew it, Decker had to slow up and their defender knocked it out. Was that a good pass?


Did Decker still have a shot to make the catch?

He did?

Convo over.

:Broncos:

oubronco
11-13-2011, 04:29 PM
Did Decker still have a shot to make the catch?

He did?

Convo over.

:Broncos:

Not really but he did make a helluva attempt though

Archer81
11-13-2011, 04:34 PM
Not really but he did make a helluva attempt though


Hit him in the hands.

:Broncos:

GreatBronco16
11-13-2011, 04:34 PM
No the one where he had an easy TD but underthrew it

No I didn't get to see that one. The stream was freezing up. I've heard different things about what happend, so until I see that play, I can't comment on it.

GreatBronco16
11-13-2011, 04:36 PM
So Decker had two long passes that he put his hands on the ball and couldn't catch them?

I saw the first one......someone have a video of the second?

vonqkilla
11-13-2011, 04:36 PM
Did Decker still have a shot to make the catch?

He did?

Convo over.

:Broncos:

Lol @ the goalpost moving.

I thought Decker could have come down with it.

1. He had a step and the ball was underthrown. So it wasnt accurate. You dont throw short when your rec has him beat. Watch the one that WAS CAUGHT!!!

2. Decker anticipated a hit and didnt time a jump. He also failed to extend his arms and catch the ball with his hands at its highest pt.

3. I can see why he went to catch vs body because it was underthrown and he felt catching with hands would fail with the hit coming.

Bad pass, bad attempted catch.

Fyi, im talking the one skinny post, not the wild jump ball to left endzone tipped around.

srphoenix
11-13-2011, 04:37 PM
Fox said in his presser that McGahee could've gone back in if it was an emergency, he'll start against the Jets I would imagine.

oubronco
11-13-2011, 04:38 PM
Fox said in his presser that McGahee could've gone back in if it was an emergency, he'll start against the Jets I would imagine.

:strong: Hell Yea great news

OrangeSe7en
11-13-2011, 04:38 PM
So Decker had two long passes that he put his hands on the ball and couldn't catch them?

I saw the first one......someone have a video of the second?

You shouldn't even be taking him seriously. The guy is still bent out of shape because Florida beat Oklahoma in the NC game when Tebow was Florida's QB. The guy hates Tebow and tries to pretend like he doesn't.

Jetmeck
11-13-2011, 04:45 PM
What about the throw when Decker was behind the Queefs defense and Tim underthrew it, Decker had to slow up and their defender knocked it out. Was that a good pass?

No but he threw it what 50 yards and was a couple of yards from being perfectly thrown ? So I'd say pretty damn good for a guy that some say couldn't hit the side of the barn ? What you say ?

Archer81
11-13-2011, 04:45 PM
Lol @ the goalpost moving.

I thought Decker could have come down with it.

1. He had a step and the ball was underthrown. So it wasnt accurate. You dont throw short when your rec has him beat. Watch the one that WAS CAUGHT!!!

2. Decker anticipated a hit and didnt time a jump. He also failed to extend his arms and catch the ball with his hands at its highest pt.

3. I can see why he went to catch vs body because it was underthrown and he felt catching with hands would fail with the hit coming.

Bad pass, bad attempted catch.

Fyi, im talking the one skinny post, not the wild jump ball to left endzone tipped around.


In either case, Decker had a shot to catch the ball. A month ago that pass is probably overthrown by 5 yards. And its not "goalpost moving" if I never stated what the original parameters of the argument were. OU said the ball was underthrown(which I agree with) but Decker still had a chance to come down with it. At some point the receivers have to make those catches, especially when the team only throws it 8 times all game.

:Broncos:

GreatBronco16
11-13-2011, 05:00 PM
Ok, just saw the throw Tebow made to Decker on the left side of the field where the ball got tipped around.

1. Decker was expecting the ball on the inside.
2. Tebow threw the ball on the outside.
3. Tebow did throw it about 5 yards too short.
4. Lloyd goes up and makes that catch too.


We have a problem at WR now. Without Lloyd, or a true #1 goto guy, we are seeing just how average our WRs really are. DT is doing absolutely nothing out there. Decker and Royal are dropping or just not coming down with balls that they really should be getting.

Last couple games, Tebow was overthrowing Decker on those long passes. Today, Tebow was right on it, or just a bit underthrown. I think by next week, or the week after, he'll be hitting those just fine.

The underneath stuff though. Wow, I can't believe non of our guys are getting open. But with only 8 pass attempts in this game, it's hard for me to see what the problem is there. I don't have access to any film to take a closer look at that.

elsid13
11-13-2011, 05:02 PM
They were catch-able balls, but they weren't very accurate. If Tebow had lead Decker a little inside both times and not put so much air under them it would be far easier catch to make. Those are the type of passes (one on one), no pressure at his feet that Tebow is going to have to put in good spot for his receivers to make easier plays. Denver left points on the field today.

GreatBronco16
11-13-2011, 05:04 PM
They were catch-able balls, but they weren't very accurate. If Tebow had lead Decker a little inside both times and not put so much air under them it would be far easier catch to make. Those are the type of passes (one on one), no pressure at his feet that Tebow is going to have to put in good spot for his receivers to make easier plays. Denver left points on the field today.

I agree with what you are saying, BUT, those WRs are getting paid a good sum of money too, and they need to learn how to grab those types of passes instead of needing the throw to be perfect every time for them to make a catch.

Garcia Bronco
11-13-2011, 05:10 PM
Damn...Hokies and Broncos playing on the same night. And on the day my mom died. Gonna have to take off Friday too.

vonqkilla
11-13-2011, 05:11 PM
They were catch-able balls, but they weren't very accurate. If Tebow had lead Decker a little inside both times and not put so much air under them it would be far easier catch to make. Those are the type of passes (one on one), no pressure at his feet that Tebow is going to have to put in good spot for his receivers to make easier plays. Denver left points on the field today.

Xactly, those are huge opportunities the running game provided, cant let those get away. Gotta connect on those, at least one off the play action.

The fact we won anyway is a statement on how great

1. Dennis Allen has the D playing

2. How dominant the line was today.

3. How Tebow converted in the red zone on a play that had no right to punch in, he slithered in there, great run.

4. Throwing a great pass late. Disrespect his erratic arm at your own peril.

Great win.

MagicHef
11-13-2011, 06:15 PM
I think the run-heavy gameplan was due to the short week we have coming up. Keep our defense off the field, don't let Tebow get hit, shorten the game. Hopefully the Jets will have a tough game against the Patriots and we'll have an advantage.

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 07:40 PM
Boy we're going to be the exact opposite of what the Jets are seeing against the Pats this week.

The Pats have no running game.

cutthemdown
11-13-2011, 08:23 PM
On the long pass royal missed a big strong WR would have had it. The ball came in, their was some contact, then royal just could not get up off the ground and the ball went off one of his hands. For sure though put in a spot where the WR could have made a big play.

Broncos when they do throw they go deep, i like it.

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 08:34 PM
On the long pass royal missed a big strong WR would have had it. The ball came in, their was some contact, then royal just could not get up off the ground and the ball went off one of his hands. For sure though put in a spot where the WR could have made a big play.

Broncos when they do throw they go deep, i like it.

Lloyd or Gaffney would have snagged it.

Trading Gaffney for peanuts was a mistake.

barryr
11-13-2011, 08:34 PM
Forget results and that he is playing like crap, Sanchez throws a prettier ball than Tebow and looks more like a QB.

broncogary
11-13-2011, 08:44 PM
Forget results and that he is playing like crap, Sanchez throws a prettier ball than Tebow and looks more like a QB.

Yeah, he looks a lot like Brady, Quinn, that is.:)

Popps
11-13-2011, 08:53 PM
Yea, this isn't good. I was hoping the Jets would win tonight and come into Denver even more full of themselves than usual. Now they'll be pissed.

OrangeSe7en
11-13-2011, 08:58 PM
Yea, this isn't good. I was hoping the Jets would win tonight and come into Denver even more full of themselves than usual. Now they'll be pissed.

Well, at least now people can't say the Jets were looking past us, simply because they can't afford to look past us. I'd kind of like to see how the Broncos compete against a team like the Jets.

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 09:30 PM
Yea, this isn't good. I was hoping the Jets would win tonight and come into Denver even more full of themselves than usual. Now they'll be pissed.

The TV crew talked about how this was supposed to be a Jets statement game where they finally moved the Pats aside. It was a monumental failure.

Now they don't have time to practice for the Broncos.

This could be an upset.

Bronx33
11-13-2011, 09:33 PM
I kinda wanna see Tim scramble for a first down, get knocked out of bounds, and straight into Rex.



I like the way you think

vonqkilla
11-13-2011, 09:36 PM
Yea, this isn't good. I was hoping the Jets would win tonight and come into Denver even more full of themselves than usual. Now they'll be pissed.

Psychologically speaking, having Dirty Sanchez throw 2 pick sixes, all that doubt, tonite was great.
Rex put alot into NE, now come get grinded.
I gotta get tix. Gonna be a great fight.

Bronx33
11-13-2011, 09:42 PM
Yea, this isn't good. I was hoping the Jets would win tonight and come into Denver even more full of themselves than usual. Now they'll be pissed.


Thats what i was thinking.

vonqkilla
11-13-2011, 09:57 PM
That stuff is overrated. Its about matchups and execution.

NE killed with no huddle. Id like us to do the same, but pound them. Woodhead was carving. We gotta wear them out, use elevation and grind them.

I noticed we ran basically a youth football offense. Reads, jet sweep, 35s and zone runs.

Passing, no screens besides running wr to willis. Everything was single reads, super simple, deep pass, no decision making.

And we left 14 pts plus on the field.

We didnt call/ show anything, guess what.

Its ready.

Jets 3/4 like Chefs. Better cbs & lbs, more blitzes, but we will dictate to them.

I want DT vs Revis on deep thrown passes.

Bronx33
11-13-2011, 09:59 PM
That stuff is overrated. Its about matchups and execution.

NE killed with no huddle. Id like us to do the same, but pound them. Woodhead was carving. We gotta wear them out, use elevation and grind them.

I noticed we ran basically a youth football offense. Reads, jet sweep, 35s and zone runs.

Passing, no screens besides running wr to willis. Everything was single reads, super simple, deep pass, no decision making.

And we left 14 pts plus on the field.

We didnt call/ show anything, guess what.

Its ready.

Jets 3/4 like Chefs. Better cbs & lbs, more blitzes, but we eill dictate to them.

I want DT vs Revis on deep thrown passes.


what does this mean?

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 10:00 PM
The Jets disguise the hell out of their coverages...gonna be interesting to see how we construct our passing game...that is if we bother to throw one

snowspot66
11-13-2011, 10:04 PM
What about the throw when Decker was behind the Queefs defense and Tim underthrew it, Decker had to slow up and their defender knocked it out. Was that a good pass?

Yes. The receiver had a great shot at the ball and the defender didn't. Now, a great pass, that's altogether different.

vonqkilla
11-13-2011, 10:07 PM
what does this mean?

Well tonite NE went 2 tes, spread, no huddle. Pass, then run with instead of spread, double te left.

Using no huddle, keep their same tired personel on the field, use the elevation to wear them out.

Julius, DT, Decker, Fells, and a Rb would be my personel.

Broncoman13
11-13-2011, 10:18 PM
You got me all wrong. I rock a #15 every week. Love Tebow. Doesnt mean I wont call him out for underthrowing and not leading Decker 3 times.

Again, just because in one on one coverage, a wr gets hands on it does not equal accurate. NFL qbs kill cover one and one on one coverage with accuarate passes only the reciever can catch.

Jumpballs like playing 500 are 50/50 balls.

Thats why Deck caught the one....

IT WAS ACCURATE!!!!

Shouldn't have to explain that.

Food for thought, Philip Rivers lives and dies with the jump ball throw... His receivers come down with the ball... His completion pct. Goes up and he is magically an accurate QB. Not saying Tebow doesn't have his flaws, but he had four drops today. Two of them on deep passes. One that should have had an INT penalty. The difference in you haters, if Tebow throws the ball up where its catchable bit the receiver doesn't make the play, then Tebow isn't accurate. Take a look at Matt Stafford. He throws up a lot of jump balls. I don't get the hate, especially in a win. Are any of you foolish enough to think that Kyle Orton runs the offense better than Tebow. Keep grinding on your axe.

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 10:21 PM
Food for thought, Philip Rivers lives and dies with the jump ball throw... His receivers come down with the ball... His completion pct. Goes up and he is magically an accurate QB. Not saying Tebow doesn't have his flaws, but he had four drops today. Two of them on deep passes. One that should have had an INT penalty. The difference in you haters, if Tebow throws the ball up where its catchable bit the receiver doesn't make the play, then Tebow isn't accurate. Take a look at Matt Stafford. He throws up a lot of jump balls. I don't get the hate, especially in a win. Are any of you foolish enough to think that Kyle Orton runs the offense better than Tebow. Keep grinding on your axe.

One of those incompletions was an Eddie-Royal-dropped shovel pass. Ha!

There is going to be some ear-chewing in that WR film session.

In reality, Tebow should have been 6/8 for about 120 yards.

maher_tyler
11-13-2011, 10:47 PM
Can't you guys agree that Decker should have cought the ball while Tebow could have lead him better? On the deep pass to Royal, I think that'd have been a catch if it's DT due to him being taller.

Rolandftw
11-13-2011, 10:49 PM
Food for thought, Philip Rivers lives and dies with the jump ball throw... His receivers come down with the ball... His completion pct. Goes up and he is magically an accurate QB. Not saying Tebow doesn't have his flaws, but he had four drops today. Two of them on deep passes. One that should have had an INT penalty. The difference in you haters, if Tebow throws the ball up where its catchable bit the receiver doesn't make the play, then Tebow isn't accurate. Take a look at Matt Stafford. He throws up a lot of jump balls. I don't get the hate, especially in a win. Are any of you foolish enough to think that Kyle Orton runs the offense better than Tebow. Keep grinding on your axe.

Jump balls are fine when the receiver is stride for stride with the corner. It's not a jump ball when the receiver has the corner beat by five yards, and the QB underthrows the ball.

The drop by Royal on the shovel pass, and one by Decker on a deep route were drops tho. The wind might have played a part in both teams passing games as well.

As far as the Jets go, they have a very short period to prepare for an offense that is unusual by NFL standards. The last two weeks, the Broncos have left their opponents claiming that they knew what Denver was going to do and couldn't stop it. I dunno if three days of preparation will prepare a team against Denver.

If Denver can just match their offensive production against KC, and force the Jets offense to beat the Broncos defense... odds are Sanchez will not.

With such a short week, preparations probably favor Denver more then New York. Not saying Denver will win, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

MagicHef
11-13-2011, 10:55 PM
On the long pass royal missed a big strong WR would have had it. The ball came in, their was some contact, then royal just could not get up off the ground and the ball went off one of his hands. For sure though put in a spot where the WR could have made a big play.

Broncos when they do throw they go deep, i like it.

Was I imagining things, or did Royal slow up for a few steps right before the ball arrived? It looked like he misjudged it and made himself have to lunge out to get a hand on it when it got there.

Shananahan
11-13-2011, 11:03 PM
On the deep pass to Royal, I think that'd have been a catch if it's DT due to him being taller.
This might have been covered in the game thread, but where was Thomas today? Is he hurt, or did they just decide that he wasn't going to be a part of this nothing-but-running gameplan? I thought that he was supposed to be a great downfield blocker, due to all his time at GT and whatnot, and kept thinking we'd see him catch something huge deep sooner or later.

cutthemdown
11-14-2011, 03:25 AM
Was I imagining things, or did Royal slow up for a few steps right before the ball arrived? It looked like he misjudged it and made himself have to lunge out to get a hand on it when it got there.

To me it looked like there was some incidental contact with the corner, and that Royal just not big and strong enough to elevate after he sort of lost his stride.

peacepipe
11-14-2011, 05:28 AM
Jump balls are fine when the receiver is stride for stride with the corner. It's not a jump ball when the receiver has the corner beat by five yards, and the QB underthrows the ball.

The drop by Royal on the shovel pass, and one by Decker on a deep route were drops tho. The wind might have played a part in both teams passing games as well.

As far as the Jets go, they have a very short period to prepare for an offense that is unusual by NFL standards. The last two weeks, the Broncos have left their opponents claiming that they knew what Denver was going to do and couldn't stop it. I dunno if three days of preparation will prepare a team against Denver.

If Denver can just match their offensive production against KC, and force the Jets offense to beat the Broncos defense... odds are Sanchez will not.

With such a short week, preparations probably favor Denver more then New York. Not saying Denver will win, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.it's been quite usual the last 2 or 3 yrs. eitherway the jets probably like denver installed part of the game plan for thurs. this past week.

jsco70
11-14-2011, 05:39 AM
No the one where he had an easy TD but underthrew it

I was at the game. Wind definitely had an impact on the first throw to Decker.

fontaine
11-14-2011, 05:39 AM
There's a reason why Lloyd routinely made great catches by fighting through the DB and elevating at the right time for the catch while Decker and Royal watched. That's what starting WRs in this league have to do.

Tebow could definitely have thrown a few passes better, but against one on one coverage it was the right call to make. Decker/Royal just have to do a better job.

Especially Royal. He's got poor anticipation and Thomas looks like he's still got a ways to go.

Play2win
11-14-2011, 05:48 AM
Was I imagining things, or did Royal slow up for a few steps right before the ball arrived? It looked like he misjudged it and made himself have to lunge out to get a hand on it when it got there.

Thats what I thought. If anyone needed to rise above a bit, I think it was royal. It would have been an awesome completion, but it fell short just a little, and if anyone needed to bring it just a little bit more, I think it was Royal.

Play2win
11-14-2011, 05:50 AM
There's a reason why Lloyd routinely made great catches by fighting through the DB and elevating at the right time for the catch while Decker and Royal watched. That's what starting WRs in this league have to do.

Tebow could definitely have thrown a few passes better, but against one on one coverage it was the right call to make. Decker/Royal just have to do a better job.

Especially Royal. He's got poor anticipation and Thomas looks like he's still got a ways to go.

Good chance all those were catches if Lloyd was on the receiving end. Just sayin'...

BroncoBeavis
11-14-2011, 05:50 AM
Lol. Some of the lack of basic football acumen here is ridiculous. From Carter shying away from a big hit, to this, cmon.

One on one jump balls do not = accurate.

Accurate = leading your reciever to the open green in the endzone. Not playing 500...

Maybe not "accurate" but thats how half of the deep balls in the nfl look. They need to work the middle more. Hopefully that shows up next week.

jhns
11-14-2011, 08:34 AM
This will be another easy win. Tebow will be 4-1 after taking over a 1-4 team. He will be 5-3 with a team that was 4-14 without him. Haters will continue to hate. The fanchise will still refuse to commit for the season. The rest of us will continue to laugh at Tebow making so many people look like clowns.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-14-2011, 09:06 AM
This will be another easy win. Tebow will be 4-1 after taking over a 1-4 team. He will be 5-3 with a team that was 4-14 without him. Haters will continue to hate. The fanchise will still refuse to commit for the season. The rest of us will continue to laugh at Tebow making so many people look like clowns.

This is one thing that bothers me. For 5 weeks we were fed "orton gives us the best chance to win." Tebow is now 3-1, clearly he's giving us the best chance to win, yet it seems he's still being evaluated on a week by week basis. The guy has earned the year. They found a niche for him, now let him develop out of that so he becomes a more complete QB.

He's improving every game. At least when he drops back now, he looks decisive in his read. Even if he doesnt deliver the ball incredibly accurately. Baby steps.

edog24
11-14-2011, 09:17 AM
This game worries me, the thought of the wobblers that Tim throws and Revis back there gives me some heartburn. I don't see them scoring many points if our D keeps playing at the level that they are playing.

I think a lot of it is going to depend on how well the run game is working.

cutthemdown
11-14-2011, 09:22 AM
Good chance all those were catches if Lloyd was on the receiving end. Just sayin'...

You could be right but Lloyd was going to be a problem. He wasn't happy about Tebow and wasn't going to be quiet about it. Since he was gone next yr anyways it was the right move to trade him.

Rams are perfect for him where they don't expect winners just some good plays now and then. Broncos will need big time team players to make it work with Tebow.

cutthemdown
11-14-2011, 09:24 AM
This game worries me, the thought of the wobblers that Tim throws and Revis back there gives me some heartburn. I don't see them scoring many points if our D keeps playing at the level that they are playing.

I think a lot of it is going to depend on how well the run game is working.

See this is what i don't get. What makes you think Broncos will even throw at Revis. Other teams throw the ball more then us and only target him 2-3 times a game.

Broncos will attack the middle of the field, they will run the option.

At best the Jets will get 15 chances at Tebow throws.

Unless it turns into a blowout by the jets.

cutthemdown
11-14-2011, 09:26 AM
I'm worried more about that big samoan they have in the middle of the defense. He will play a bigger role in the game then Revis. Pauah? something like that, dont know a lot about him but he looked pretty physical last night, even in a loss.

Broncos road map is shut down green and LT, force Sanchez into 3rd and long, then sick Doom and Miller after him. Meanwhile we run the ball and take time off even when we punt.

The plan is to give the other team the least amount of plays as possible.

You get games down to 1 score at the end to decide it and you can win with any style offense.

jhns
11-14-2011, 09:26 AM
You could be right but Lloyd was going to be a problem. He wasn't happy about Tebow and wasn't going to be quiet about it. Since he was gone next yr anyways it was the right move to trade him.

Rams are perfect for him where they don't expect winners just some good plays now and then. Broncos will need big time team players to make it work with Tebow.

McDaniels logic makes me cry. Have you really not payed any attention these past few years? It is obvious that this front office didn't. Also, blaming Lloyds problems on the Tebow thing just shows you haven't been paying attention. He was crying to the media well before Tebow was put in.

Steve Sewell
11-14-2011, 09:36 AM
The TV crew talked about how this was supposed to be a Jets statement game where they finally moved the Pats aside. It was a monumental failure.

Now they don't have time to practice for the Broncos.

This could be an upset.

Could be?

A team with a bad offense coming into Denver on 3 days rest against the top rushing offense in the NFL and a defense that is playing lights out...I'd expect the Broncos to be favored in this one.

Steve Sewell
11-14-2011, 09:39 AM
This might have been covered in the game thread, but where was Thomas today? Is he hurt, or did they just decide that he wasn't going to be a part of this nothing-but-running gameplan? I thought that he was supposed to be a great downfield blocker, due to all his time at GT and whatnot, and kept thinking we'd see him catch something huge deep sooner or later.

He tore his achilles tendon less than a year ago. You don't just come back in top form from that type of injury. If DThomas is going to show anything, its going to be next year at the earliest.

Shananahan
11-14-2011, 10:09 AM
He tore his achilles tendon less than a year ago. You don't just come back in top form from that type of injury. If DThomas is going to show anything, its going to be next year at the earliest.
Oh, I agree. I'm still kinda shocked he's suiting up. It's just that a couple weeks ago they threw at him 9-10 times and the following week he brought one down for 30 yards, etc. Just seemed like his skill set would have been what Denver was looking for on the outside yesterday.

vonqkilla
11-14-2011, 10:27 AM
Generalizations like ” hater” etc do nothing to add to the debate and conversation. Please stop using it. Its not accurate.

Critiquing TTs throws does not make a hater just like jump balls dont equal accurate.

Rivers puts balls high, but in front of V.Jack who boxes out the corner. Tebows passes dont lead the receiver and are 50/50 balls. Like its been said, Decker and Tebow both could do better. Tebow has the easier job, and can make Decks easier, as he did late.

DT vs Cro or Revis, will he go all out is my question?

jhns
11-14-2011, 10:32 AM
Generalizations like ” hater” etc do nothing to add to the debate and conversation. Please stop using it. Its not accurate.

Critiquing TTs throws does not make a hater just like jump balls dont equal accurate.

Rivers puts balls high, but in front of V.Jack who boxes out the corner. Tebows passes dont lead the receiver and are 50/50 balls. Like its been said, Decker and Tebow both could do better. Tebow has the easier job, and can make Decks easier, as he did late.

DT vs Cro or Revis, will he go all out is my question?

Yeah! This guy is clearly just a drama queen that doesn't like Tebow! Stop calling him a hater!

Dude was crying as we led the entire game. The game thread was filled with the ways we were going to lose. Funny stuff.

KO5K
11-14-2011, 10:34 AM
Generalizations like ” hater” etc do nothing to add to the debate and conversation. Please stop using it. Its not accurate.

Critiquing TTs throws does not make a hater just like jump balls dont equal accurate.

Rivers puts balls high, but in front of V.Jack who boxes out the corner. Tebows passes dont lead the receiver and are 50/50 balls. Like its been said, Decker and Tebow both could do better. Tebow has the easier job, and can make Decks easier, as he did late.

Dude, Rivers throws tons of jump balls and his receivers just go up and get them. Seriously, I was watching that Thursday night game and Rivers just looks for a receiver and throws it up there, doesn't matter if it's double or even triple coverage he just lets it rip. And hey, his receivers get them, Brown? caught two ridiculous ones in that game.

I wish Lloyd would've stayed, he would be perfect for Tebow. Did anyone see that catch he made yesterday? Was insane.

vonqkilla
11-14-2011, 10:46 AM
Dude, Rivers throws tons of jump balls and his receivers just go up and get them. Seriously, I was watching that Thursday night game and Rivers just looks for a receiver and throws it up there, doesn't matter if it's double or even triple coverage he just lets it rip. And hey, his receivers get them, Brown? caught two ridiculous ones in that game.

I wish Lloyd would've stayed, he would be perfect for Tebow. Did anyone see that catch he made yesterday? Was insane.

Watch the one to vjack he caught, pretty sure it was a fly corner route, or a post carried al the way accross. Anyway a jump ball thrown to your recievers front with db trailing to a 6-5 rec is one thing, Decker aint vjack. You can call it what you want Vjack is also one of if not the best deep recievers in the nfl, not fair to compare.

Tebow needs to lead his wr, when he did, touchdown!!

We gotta get DT and JT in the game, they come down with them, esp JT.

Rolandftw
11-14-2011, 10:50 AM
it's been quite usual the last 2 or 3 yrs. eitherway the jets probably like denver installed part of the game plan for thurs. this past week.

I think Denver ran a "normal" offense by NFL standards, prior to this season. Wasn't very successful but it wasn't strange by any stretch.

Vine
11-14-2011, 10:52 AM
If the Broncos call simple running plays on 3rd and long and have to punt, the crowd better be booing.

bendog
11-14-2011, 10:59 AM
Watch the one to vjack he caught, pretty sure it was a fly corner route, or a post carried al the way accross. Anyway a jump ball thrown to your recievers front with db trailing to a 6-5 rec is one thing, Decker aint vjack. You can call it what you want Vjack is also one of if not the best deep recievers in the nfl, not fair to compare.

Tebow needs to lead his wr, when he did, touchdown!!

We gotta get DT and JT in the game, they come down with them, esp JT.

Well, Thomas dropped one on him to Detroit and that started the avalanche. I agree that "leading" the wr is something Tebow continues to work on. He's ok/good on deep balls where he just needs to lead a guy to let him try and make a play on a ball, and poor/horrible on realizing where a wr who is not open is going to go and putting the ball on that spot. Thomas' drop in the detroit game was a pass that Tebow read one and one coverage on and got it to Thomas near the sideline.

I think McCoy keeps dialing it back a notch to let Tebow have success. They say he's getting better, and while yesterday wasn't much of a sample, I thought he definitely improved against Det despite the results, and he improved on that against Oak. I think Den will be overachieving to go 3-4 to end the season, but I think they'll win at least 2.

Vine
11-14-2011, 11:02 AM
So Decker had two long passes that he put his hands on the ball and couldn't catch them?

I saw the first one......someone have a video of the second?

GreatBronco here is a quick summary of Tebow's passes to Decker.

Tebow didn't even attempt a pass until early in the 2nd quarter. His 1st pass attempt was a PA pass from about midfield, the ball came down to about the 5. Decker had maybe 1 step on the defender, the ball was slightly underthrown, Decker had to slow a little, and had both hands on the ball, and the Chief defender knocked the ball away. Even though it was a slight underthrow, it still was a decent throw that gave his receiver a chance to make a huge play.

Later on, Tebow tried ANOTHER PA pass from around midfield to the Decker at the goalline, and this time the ball was thrown about 5 yards to Decker's left. Decker had to re-adjust, and the defender was making a play on the ball. The ball was tipped into the air and Decker fell down, and the ball landed right near Decker as he tried to pull it in as he was falling down. This was a pretty bad throw, but still, Decker nearly made the play.

Vine
11-14-2011, 11:04 AM
On the long pass royal missed a big strong WR would have had it. The ball came in, their was some contact, then royal just could not get up off the ground and the ball went off one of his hands. For sure though put in a spot where the WR could have made a big play.

Broncos when they do throw they go deep, i like it.

Brandon Flowers had a hold on Royal's left arm, which explains why Royal "could not get up off the ground". That is more than some contact.

Rolandftw
11-14-2011, 11:26 AM
If the Broncos call simple running plays on 3rd and long and have to punt, the crowd better be booing.

Depends on the situation. Do you really want to see Tebow passing on 3rd and long on the Jets defense? I don't think I do.

Vine
11-14-2011, 11:30 AM
Depends on the situation. Do you really want to see Tebow passing on 3rd and long on the Jets defense? I don't think I do.

I want to see the Broncos run plays that give them the best chance at converting 1st downs. I didn't necessarily say they had to pass. I just don't want to see a stupid hand-off up the middle. Try a bootleg or a rollout.

Rolandftw
11-14-2011, 11:32 AM
I'm okay playing conservative and trusting Sanchez to lose the game for the Jets.

Especially, with the short week.

cutthemdown
11-14-2011, 11:59 AM
Brandon Flowers had a hold on Royal's left arm, which explains why Royal "could not get up off the ground". That is more than some contact.

Well you are nitpicking. Obviously a bigger stronger wr would fight that off better and then get up and fight for the ball. Have you ever heard the term fight for the ball. They use it to describe WR that have the size and hops to get up off the ground, and win the hand fighting for the ball.

Royal is at best a 3rd 4th wr, special teams guy in the NFL.

We need some more WR now that Lloyd is gone IMO. Thomas and Decker won't be enough IMO.

Jetmeck
11-14-2011, 12:05 PM
Yes, until DT shows something we need help at receiver. Royal should be returning punts where he can make a difference...............

cartel
11-14-2011, 12:13 PM
i love the direction the team is going. young qb that needs time to develop with a good running game, defense able to stop the run, and good special teams. it's worked with quite a few teams in the past. i can't stand teams that try to be a prolific passing team, i.e. jets, ravens, falcons, etc. those teams would be better off sticking to what worked for them to begin with, idiots. run it down teams throats all time. i would rather have 200 yds rushing than passing.

vonqkilla
11-14-2011, 12:55 PM
I got retweeted by @ryanclady today. Check out what I sent to him.

Maybe that will work lol.

We owe the jets an L.

Bronco Yoda
11-14-2011, 01:01 PM
This could be the shortest game in decades. Advertisers will not be pleased.

bendog
11-14-2011, 01:02 PM
I just hope Rex doesn't eat a virgin at halftime or something

BroncoBeavis
11-14-2011, 02:30 PM
Why oh why did we ditch Lloyd for peanuts?

I seriously think we'd be favorites to win the division if he was still around.

epicSocialism4tw
11-14-2011, 02:43 PM
Watch the one to vjack he caught, pretty sure it was a fly corner route, or a post carried al the way accross. Anyway a jump ball thrown to your recievers front with db trailing to a 6-5 rec is one thing, Decker aint vjack. You can call it what you want Vjack is also one of if not the best deep recievers in the nfl, not fair to compare.

Tebow needs to lead his wr, when he did, touchdown!!

We gotta get DT and JT in the game, they come down with them, esp JT.

Holding a raw second-year player to a standard you don't hold a pro-bowl veteran to?

Weird.

Shoemaker
11-14-2011, 02:45 PM
Why oh why did we ditch Lloyd for peanuts?

I seriously think we'd be favorites to win the division if he was still around.

I've wondered this about both Lloyd AND Gaffney this season.

Our receiving core right now could be Lloyd, Decker, Gaffney, Royal, Thomas.

Instead we have Decker, Royal, Thomas, Willis, Cosby.

That first group would probably make things a lot easier for Tim, and we didn't even get anything to make the transition to the second group worth it.

budman
11-14-2011, 03:01 PM
the broncos need to run the no huddle you could tire the jets defense out.the altitude could also help

R8R H8R
11-14-2011, 08:43 PM
I'm okay playing conservative and trusting Sanchez to lose the game for the Jets.

Especially, with the short week.

This. The short week favors the Broncos more than the jets, imho. Hopefully, we take advantage of it and force the jets to take all the chances.

Popps
11-14-2011, 09:11 PM
I'm just mentioning in case anyone is interested that I hate the Jets and their traveling fat-boy circus-overrated East-coast bull**** show.

(fyi)

epicSocialism4tw
11-14-2011, 09:16 PM
I'm just mentioning in case anyone is interested that I hate the Jets and their traveling fat-boy circus-overrated East-coast bull**** show.

(fyi)

Thats a great description of the clown parade thats about to ascend on Denver.

I'd love to see the Broncos' offense rush for 300+ yards and win by 14+ points.

Bronco Yoda
11-14-2011, 10:50 PM
GreatBronco here is a quick summary of Tebow's passes to Decker.

Tebow didn't even attempt a pass until early in the 2nd quarter. His 1st pass attempt was a PA pass from about midfield, the ball came down to about the 5. Decker had maybe 1 step on the defender, the ball was slightly underthrown, Decker had to slow a little, and had both hands on the ball, and the Chief defender knocked the ball away. Even though it was a slight underthrow, it still was a decent throw that gave his receiver a chance to make a huge play.

Later on, Tebow tried ANOTHER PA pass from around midfield to the Decker at the goalline, and this time the ball was thrown about 5 yards to Decker's left. Decker had to re-adjust, and the defender was making a play on the ball. The ball was tipped into the air and Decker fell down, and the ball landed right near Decker as he tried to pull it in as he was falling down. This was a pretty bad throw, but still, Decker nearly made the play.

Had that been Lloyd he'd probably came down with both of those. Imagine how the national talking head chatter would change. Play calling as well

Archer81
11-14-2011, 11:50 PM
Had that been Lloyd he'd probably came down with both of those. Imagine how the national talking head chatter would change. Play calling as well


They would pick on the passes themselves then. "Maybe he should lead the receiver more...that ball wobbled too much, why did he underthrow it?"...always something. Vick overthrows a wide open WR against AZ and all the geniuses can say is well that happens...

No kidding. Its whatever. Tebow is improving every game, that will eventually show itself in the metric espn created and all will be right with the world...


:Broncos:

vonqkilla
11-15-2011, 11:08 AM
the broncos need to run the no huddle you could tire the jets defense out.the altitude could also help

Lol, where did I hear that before?

I agree, its what NE did.

Bronco Yoda
11-16-2011, 04:53 AM
Rex Ryan’s 1999 book, “Coaching Football’s 46 Defense,” includes a 20-page section on defending the option.

Chapter 8 is about defending the option. Has anyone read the book?
http://www.amazon.com/Coaching-Footballs-Defense-Rex-Ryan/dp/B00077BOTC

Rex wrote the book on how to stop Tebow
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/exploring_option_P7hWRlPQ8ZYTH4eFKWMR4Msports/P7hWRlPQ8ZYTH4eFKWMR4MP7hWRlPQ8ZYTH4eFKWMR4M

snowspot66
11-16-2011, 05:18 AM
Rex Ryan’s 1999 book, “Coaching Football’s 46 Defense,” includes a 20-page section on defending the option.

Chapter 8 is about defending the option. Has anyone read the book?
http://www.amazon.com/Coaching-Footballs-Defense-Rex-Ryan/dp/B00077BOTC

Rex wrote the book on how to stop Tebow
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/exploring_option_P7hWRlPQ8ZYTH4eFKWMR4Msports/P7hWRlPQ8ZYTH4eFKWMR4MP7hWRlPQ8ZYTH4eFKWMR4M

That's nice. Good thing Rex doesn't actually step onto the field.