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Vine
11-13-2011, 01:20 PM
Got to be the most lopsided run/pass ration of playcalling in NFL history.

8 passes has got to be the fewest passes thrown by 1 team in a game in NFL history.

2 completions has got to be the fewest pass completions by a qb in any game in NFL history.

Not at all a diss on Tebow. He did have 4 drops afterall.

Still, I cannot believe this gameplan was executed to a Broncos victory.

snowspot66
11-13-2011, 01:25 PM
Got to be the most lopsided run/pass ration of playcalling in NFL history.

8 passes has got to be the fewest passes thrown by 1 team in a game in NFL history.

2 completions has got to be the fewest pass completions by a qb in any game in NFL history.

Not at all a diss on Tebow. He did have 4 drops afterall.

Still, I cannot believe this gameplan was executed to a Broncos victory.

On one side its hard to criticize when you run so well on first and second down. On the other, in the second half it would have been nice to see some throws on those longer third downs instead of the predictable QB run up the middle. McCoy really drives me nuts with those ones.

Jesterhole
11-13-2011, 01:26 PM
I don't understand how they expect the kid to develop if they won't give him a chance to.

Pendejo
11-13-2011, 01:26 PM
102.6 quarterback rating.

Rohirrim
11-13-2011, 01:26 PM
Got to be the most lopsided run/pass ration of playcalling in NFL history.

8 passes has got to be the fewest passes thrown by 1 team in a game in NFL history.

2 completions has got to be the fewest pass completions by a qb in any game in NFL history.

Not at all a diss on Tebow. He did have 4 drops afterall.

Still, I cannot believe this gameplan was executed to a Broncos victory.

Don't want to be a buzz kill, but it was the Chiefs. ;D

Popps
11-13-2011, 01:26 PM
I love it. To me, there's nothing better than gashing a division opponent with the run... in their own house.

Sure, a few more passes would have been nice, but who cares? It's about execution. That's what people need to understand about play-calling. Yes, there are better calls to make at certain times... but it boils down to execution. The staff put us in a position to win this week, and the guys played great. (Particularly the O-line, including the TE's who blocked very well today.)

Props all around. I'm enjoying the hell out of this one.

Raiders and Cheifs back to back... on the road? That alone almost makes this season worthwhile.

BroncoInferno
11-13-2011, 01:27 PM
Got to be the most lopsided run/pass ration of playcalling in NFL history.

8 passes has got to be the fewest passes thrown by 1 team in a game in NFL history.

2 completions has got to be the fewest pass completions by a qb in any game in NFL history.

Not at all a diss on Tebow. He did have 4 drops afterall.

Still, I cannot believe this gameplan was executed to a Broncos victory.

They showed during the game that the Jets played a game in 1974 where their QB was 0-2 passing. That was when Tebow had yet to complete a pass, and that was the last game where a team did not complete a pass for an entire game. I knew Tebow was going to hit one of those deep ones eventually.

MacGruder
11-13-2011, 01:27 PM
I think it's smart.. you give no chance for bad turnovers AND you have this incredibly efficient offense.

It's nearly impossible for the other team to win. Imagine if the Broncos D had even more talent. I think they could dominate this way. Other teams cannot match this style of play. maybe Carolina with Cam but he is too soft IMO. I think Tebow is more efficient than Cam too.

barryr
11-13-2011, 01:27 PM
The optimist would say having Tebow run so many draws up the middle will make teams worry about it and occupy the MLB and or safety to expect that, leaving more passing lanes open across the middle and the Broncos will take advantage of that. That is what worked for Florida at least.

Tombstone RJ
11-13-2011, 01:29 PM
Got to be the most lopsided run/pass ration of playcalling in NFL history.

8 passes has got to be the fewest passes thrown by 1 team in a game in NFL history.

2 completions has got to be the fewest pass completions by a qb in any game in NFL history.

Not at all a diss on Tebow. He did have 4 drops afterall.

Still, I cannot believe this gameplan was executed to a Broncos victory.

Tebow had 68 yards passing... Cassel had 77 yards passing.

MacGruder
11-13-2011, 01:29 PM
I don't understand how they expect the kid to develop if they won't give him a chance to.

He can develop in practice getting starter reps which he couldn't do on the bench.

Plus this dominant running game will take pressure off him as a passer... WINNING takes pressure off him as a passer. That's the best thing about this..

TDmvp
11-13-2011, 01:30 PM
I'm starting to think God put Tim Tebow on earth to make football talking heads explode.

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 01:31 PM
I love it. To me, there's nothing better than gashing a division opponent with the run... in their own house.

Sure, a few more passes would have been nice, but who cares? It's about execution. That's what people need to understand about play-calling. Yes, there are better calls to make at certain times... but it boils down to execution. The staff put us in a position to win this week, and the guys played great. (Particularly the O-line, including the TE's who blocked very well today.)

Props all around. I'm enjoying the hell out of this one.

Raiders and Cheifs back to back... on the road? That alone almost makes this season worthwhile.

Heck yes.

For those of us who have pined for years for a ball control offense and a defense that can get to the QB and plug the run...this is turning out to be a lot of fun.

We have something here. The OL have an opportunity to be part of something special, and they are taking the bull by the horns.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 01:32 PM
Well, im glad it worked today, but I'd really like to see us come out with some playaction next week. Like first drive. Like first play. It worked today, but lets not pretend that was great offense

BroncoInferno
11-13-2011, 01:32 PM
He can develop in practice getting starter reps which he couldn't do on the bench.

During the game, the announcers quoted Fox as saying exactly that. With most young QBs, you just have to take your lumps in the passing game while they develop. With Tebow, you can have a gameplan like today and let him develop as a passer in practice. Still, I'd like to see higher percentage attempts to give him some confidence building completions. I think 5 of the 8 pass were low percentage bombs.

Meck77
11-13-2011, 01:34 PM
A win is a win. Won't please the ugly win crowd of the mane though.

snowspot66
11-13-2011, 01:35 PM
Well, im glad it worked today, but I'd really like to see us come out with some playaction next week. Like first drive. Like first play. It worked today, but lets not pretend that was great offense

I desperately want some bootlegs. We haven't run any with Tebow that I can remember.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 01:36 PM
A win is a win. Won't please the ugly win crowd of the mane though.

A win is a win, but the whole game felt like a novelty to me.

barryr
11-13-2011, 01:36 PM
A win is a win. Won't please the ugly win crowd of the mane though.

They would rather have prettier looking losses.

Gcver2ver3
11-13-2011, 01:36 PM
we earned a quick lead and we were on the road...

Fox was protecting the lead, not the prettiest thing to watch and i'm not 100% convinced i agree with it....but on the road in arrowhead with a young guy playing only his 7th ever start...

didnt want to take a chance unless he absolutely had to...

Popps
11-13-2011, 01:37 PM
Tebow had 68 yards passing... Cassel had 77 yards passing.

Ouch. Hilarious!

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 01:38 PM
we earned a quick lead and we were on the road...

Fox was protecting the lead, not the prettiest thing to watch and i'm not 100% convinced i agree with it....but on the road in arrowhead with a young guy playing only his 7th ever start...

didnt want to take a chance unless he absolutely had to...

So now dropping back for a pass is a chance? We've set the bar low. That game wasn't pretty, tim is capable of more. In two games of using heavy read option, we play action'd out of the formation ONCE

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 01:38 PM
we earned a quick lead and we were on the road...

Fox was protecting the lead, not the prettiest thing to watch and i'm not 100% convinced i agree with it....but on the road in arrowhead with a young guy playing only his 7th ever start...

didnt want to take a chance unless he absolutely had to...

It was conservative, which was the intelligent way to go about it.

The Broncos' staff sucked the life out of the Chiefs with their methodical, insistent running game.

Elway 4 Life
11-13-2011, 01:39 PM
I love it. To me, there's nothing better than gashing a division opponent with the run... in their own house.

Sure, a few more passes would have been nice, but who cares? It's about execution. That's what people need to understand about play-calling. Yes, there are better calls to make at certain times... but it boils down to execution. The staff put us in a position to win this week, and the guys played great. (Particularly the O-line, including the TE's who blocked very well today.)

Props all around. I'm enjoying the hell out of this one.

Raiders and Cheifs back to back... on the road? That alone almost makes this season worthwhile.

My thoughts exactly. All this Tebow talk (inaacurate, cant play at this level, ect.) and yet he has beaten two big division rivals on the road. Great team effort. To be in the division hunt to boot. This season hasnt been pretty but its a hell of a ride so far.

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 01:39 PM
So now dropping back for a pass is a chance? We've set the bar low. That game wasn't pretty, tim is capable of more. In two games of using heavy read option, we play action'd out of the formation ONCE

When you're averaging 5 yards a carry, running the ball is the smart thing to do.

MacGruder
11-13-2011, 01:39 PM
During the game, the announcers quoted Fox as saying exactly that. With most young QBs, you just have to take your lumps in the passing game while they develop. With Tebow, you can have a gameplan like today and let him develop as a passer in practice. Still, I'd like to see higher percentage attempts to give him some confidence building completions. I think 5 of the 8 pass were low percentage bombs.

Exactly. One good thing about the low percentage bombs is that even if they were intercepted it's kind of like a punt and unlikely you give up points on a turnover and you don't put your D in a bad position.

It's all about efficiency.. this is what Tebow's abilities provides and others can't match.

Lombardi said Football is primarily a run game.. the teams that run the best will win.. that is what Tebow provides that can't be matched. Vick might be more explosive as a runner but Tebow is more reliable and makes his runners better.. and he's more durable.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 01:40 PM
When you're averaging 5 yards a carry, running the ball is the smart thing to do.

We won, so it looks ok...but this is HARDLY the makings of something good, and our offense was virtually inept in the 2nd half outside of a drive. We should have mixed it up more.

MacGruder
11-13-2011, 01:42 PM
A win is a win, but the whole game felt like a novelty to me.


This is the incredible irony.. football today is so backwards.. passing is actually the novelty. If the refs didn't help passers so much in this era Tebow would be even MORE dominant.

But also don't be so reactionary.. this is just something that will help take pressure off Tebow as a passer at the worst...

vonqkilla
11-13-2011, 01:42 PM
You want polarized, Ill show you polarized.

2 straight wins, first time since 09.

Ill take it. I was sure we were gonna blow it, then Tebow connects.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 01:45 PM
This is the incredible irony.. football today is so backwards.. passing is actually the novelty. If the refs didn't help passers so much in this era Tebow would be even MORE dominant.

But also don't be so reactionary.. this is just something that will help take pressure off Tebow as a passer at the worst...

Passing is a novelty in today's game? WTF are you talking about.

I'm not being a reactionary. What I am being is critical on 3rd and 7 option plays. No passes on first down. Where is the play action off the option. He can throw the ball, let him throw it. Our D won this game for us, and yes, we controlled the ball which helped keep them fresh.. i dunno..i just want to see a more balanced attack. We could have scored a lot more than 17 points today.

barryr
11-13-2011, 01:46 PM
The Broncos lost to bad teams last year, so beating bad teams is an improvement.

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 01:48 PM
We won, so it looks ok...but this is HARDLY the makings of something good, and our offense was virtually inept in the 2nd half outside of a drive. We should have mixed it up more.

It was not "inept". It continued to posess the ball and eat the clock. That keeps the other defense on the field and keeps our defense fresh.

It was fantastic over the course of the game....then Big Play Tebow steps up and delivers a back-breaker late in the fourth. Awesome stuff. It was clinical.

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 01:48 PM
Passing is a novelty in today's game? WTF are you talking about.

I'm not being a reactionary. What I am being is critical on 3rd and 7 option plays. No passes on first down. Where is the play action off the option. He can throw the ball, let him throw it. Our D won this game for us, and yes, we controlled the ball which helped keep them fresh.. i dunno..i just want to see a more balanced attack. We could have scored a lot more than 17 points today.

Yeah, we would have scored 20 had Prater done his job.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 01:49 PM
It was not "inept". It continued to posess the ball and eat the clock. That keeps the other defense on the field and keeps our defense fresh.

It was fantastic over the course of the game....then Big Play Tebow steps up and delivers a back-breaker late in the fourth. Awesome stuff. It was clinical.

I'm speaking as a believer in Timmy. I just think this encourages McCoy to further be a conservative a-hole. My GOD where was playaction out of these creative options we were running. He's a QB that needs some rhythm

jhns
11-13-2011, 01:49 PM
The Broncos lost to bad teams last year, so beating bad teams is an improvement.

Tebow also beat a team we lost to at home earlier in the season. Beating bad teams is where it starts. The entire team is starting to play better. That is all we should really hope for this season. Did people see what McDaniels did here?

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 01:50 PM
I'm speaking as a believer in Timmy. I just think this encourages McCoy to further be a conservative a-hole. My GOD where was playaction out of these creative options we were running. He's a QB that needs some rhythm

The game plan was excellent. It completely sapped the life out of the Chiefs on both sides of the ball.

You keep it up until someone stops it.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 01:51 PM
The game plan was excellent.

I choose to disagree. Our D won us that game and the offense did a good job with ball control. It was hardly "excellent." Obviously it wasnt bad, we won, but i have no doubt we left points and yards on the field.

broncobum6162
11-13-2011, 01:51 PM
Tried to start a thread but Omane won't let me. It would have read: Pretty? "NO", Unorthodox? "YES" But........Will I take It "YES". On the stats, Tebow didn't do well again but IMHO all his passes were right on target and either our receivers didn't make the play or KC made a great defensive play. Comments welcome of course.

Mogulseeker
11-13-2011, 01:53 PM
102.6 quarterback rating.

That's what happens when 12.5 percent of your passes are TDs.

R8R H8R
11-13-2011, 01:53 PM
I desperately want some bootlegs. We haven't run any with Tebow that I can remember.

This. I think we did run a couple in the Miami game, but, I agree, I would love to see many more a game. Heck, if the WR is covered, Tebow can run it.

Another thing, I know bubble screens are a dirty word around here, but I would like to see more of those with DT. He is big & strong and can run after the catch.

TheDave
11-13-2011, 01:58 PM
I love it. To me, there's nothing better than gashing a division opponent with the run... in their own house.

Sure, a few more passes would have been nice, but who cares? It's about execution. That's what people need to understand about play-calling. Yes, there are better calls to make at certain times... but it boils down to execution. The staff put us in a position to win this week, and the guys played great. (Particularly the O-line, including the TE's who blocked very well today.)

Props all around. I'm enjoying the hell out of this one.

Raiders and Cheifs back to back... on the road? That alone almost makes this season worthwhile.

This^

As much as I'm dumbfounded by what I'm watching... It's working.

TonyR
11-13-2011, 02:01 PM
Our D won us that game and the offense did a good job with ball control. It was hardly "excellent."

Exactly. Can't complain about a win, particularly on the road against a division rival, but we're going to have to be considerably better against good teams.

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 02:02 PM
Exactly. Can't complain about a win, particularly on the road against a division rival, but we're going to have to be considerably better against good teams.

Yeah, instead of 5 yards a carry and 250 yards on the ground, we'll need 10 yards a carry and 500 yards on the ground.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 02:03 PM
Yeah, instead of 5 yards a carry and 250 yards on the ground, we'll need 10 yards a carry and 500 yards on the ground.

I obviously love the running game, but im still concerned with the play calling. I doubt this works against the jets next week. Plus, it'd be nice to have some healthy running backs...as much as I like watching Larson take handoffs as a tailback

MABroncoFan
11-13-2011, 02:04 PM
Got to be the most lopsided run/pass ration of playcalling in NFL history.

8 passes has got to be the fewest passes thrown by 1 team in a game in NFL history.

2 completions has got to be the fewest pass completions by a qb in any game in NFL history.

Not at all a diss on Tebow. He did have 4 drops afterall.

Still, I cannot believe this gameplan was executed to a Broncos victory.


CBS had a stat that the last team to go a complete game w/o completing a pass was the Bills in '74 (Joe Ferguson).

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 02:05 PM
I obviously love the running game, but im still concerned with the play calling. I doubt this works against the jets next week. Plus, it'd be nice to have some healthy running backs...as much as I like watching Larson take handoffs as a tailback

Believe.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 02:07 PM
Believe.

I'm a rationalist. I wanna see some passing early next week.

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 02:08 PM
I'm a rationalist. I wanna see some passing early next week.

I'll take 5 yards a carry and broken jaws all along the other teams' line.

You can keep your Orton offense.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 02:09 PM
I'll take 5 yards a carry and broken jaws all along the other teams' line.

You can keep your Orton offense.

I don't want an orton offense. But i dont want an offense that makes Air Force look like a passing team either.

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 02:10 PM
I don't want an orton offense. But i dont want an offense that makes Air Force look like a passing team either.

It doesn't matter what you want.

TonyR
11-13-2011, 02:10 PM
I'm a rationalist. I wanna see some passing early next week.

What people like epic fail to understand it that mixing in the pass will make both the running game and the offense better.

MacGruder
11-13-2011, 02:10 PM
I'm a rationalist. I wanna see some passing early next week.


Why though? You don't even know if this run game could work.. there has never been a player quite like Tebow in this era. No one knows what this style is capable of.. the payoff could be huge. So far it has been...

snowspot66
11-13-2011, 02:10 PM
I'm a rationalist. I wanna see some passing early next week.

I think we'll get some. Maybe even the first play a huge throw down field. Who would predict that based on our play calling so far?

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 02:11 PM
What people like epic fail to understand it that mixing in the pass will make both the running game and the offense better.

No...I understand it just fine: 56-yard game-winning TD on 3rd and 10.

Gort
11-13-2011, 02:11 PM
this team is rebuilding. they have a new coaching staff. they have a roster that has turned over considerably from 3 years ago. to be rebuilding and winning at the same time is a bonus. Broncos fans should relax and smile and enjoy it.

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 02:12 PM
Why though? You don't even know if this run game could work.. there has never been a player quite like Tebow in this era. No one knows what this style is capable of.. the payoff could be huge. So far it has been...

It has turned the Broncos around.

Tebow is 3-1 as a starter this year.

fontaine
11-13-2011, 02:12 PM
Two straight road game wins.

When was the last time that happened for Denver and we beat the snot out of defenses doing it.

Awesome.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 02:12 PM
Why though? You don't even know if this run game could work.. there has never been a player quite like Tebow in this era. No one knows what this style is capable of.. the payoff could be huge. So far it has been...

Because this is not going to ****ing work every week. It didnt even really work in the second half. We scored 17 points today...with some play action and boots, we could have scored more. We need to mix this in because our D won't hold teams like this every week.

Gort
11-13-2011, 02:14 PM
I'll take 5 yards a carry and broken jaws all along the other teams' line.

You can keep your Orton offense.

didn't you get the memo? don't you know it's better to look marvelous than to feel marvelous?

http://www.therealstevegray.com/wp-content/uploads/FernandoMahvelous230x225.jpg

Popps
11-13-2011, 02:17 PM
Because this is not going to ****ing work every week. It didnt even really work in the second half. We scored 17 points today...with some play action and boots, we could have scored more. We need to mix this in because our D won't hold teams like this every week.

And do you have it on word from the staff that we won't pass more next week?

Would you like to place a side bet? Name the amount.

I'll take the over. I'll spot you 2 passes. You can take the under. What's the bet?

anon
11-13-2011, 02:18 PM
The rush-heavy offense worked today so we stuck with it. If the dynamic of the game was different or if it wasn't working and we didn't adjust, then the playcalling would merit some criticism. But when the D is playing relatively well and you are consistently chewing up clock while sitting on a lead, what we did was right on. This was, to use a McD-ism, "complementary football".

We're still a crappy team and won't be beating really good teams on a regular basis anyway, so to nitpick seems... uh, nitpicky?

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 02:20 PM
And do you have it on word from the staff that we won't pass more next week?

Would you like to place a side bet? Name the amount.

I'll take the over. I'll spot you 2 passes. You can take the under. What's the bet?

Well, of course we're gonna pass more than EIGHT times next week. We thought his first start against the raiders was conservative! I'll bet we'll do it out of necessity in the first half alone because, chances are, we won't be able to run AS effectively against the jets (not saying we wont be able to run, but not like this)

The reason I don't think we will open it up...is because we haven't to this point. We're still seeing QB draws on 3rd and long, we are exclusively running on first down, we still aren't bootlegging, we never PA out of the read option (aside from one time). They clearly do not trust tim throwing the ball unless the pass is deep or a screen.

Jetmeck
11-13-2011, 02:27 PM
BETTER PLAYCALLING AND MIXING IT UP. tE CROSSES ? sCREEN PASSES ?

tHEN LONG THROWS, BUT YES MIX IT UP MORE

cutthemdown
11-13-2011, 02:29 PM
Meh the WR had chances to make some more big plays and didn't do it. Bronco fans complain even when they team wins. Tebow may be changing the game. Teams keep so many dback because everyone throws so much. No one is geared to stop this big mauling run game. Once we get some passing to go with it, which is already showing it could be there deep downfeild, broncos wont be fun to play.

Sassy
11-13-2011, 02:31 PM
Meh the WR had chances to make some more big plays and didn't do it. Bronco fans complain even when they team wins. Tebow may be changing the game. Teams keep so many dback because everyone throws so much. No one is geared to stop this big mauling run game. Once we get some passing to go with it, which is already showing it could be there deep downfeild, broncos wont be fun to play.
Two out of 3 of those passes to Decker were awful...Deck could have had 3 TD's today.

Gcver2ver3
11-13-2011, 02:32 PM
So now dropping back for a pass is a chance? We've set the bar low. That game wasn't pretty, tim is capable of more. In two games of using heavy read option, we play action'd out of the formation ONCE

yes...he has less than 50% completion percent....

like i said, not sure i agree with it, but we won the game...

hopefully we'll incorporate more aggressive offensive gameplan moving forward, but the win we earned was a big one...

snowspot66
11-13-2011, 02:33 PM
We need Thomas to step up. He's the only huge WR we have. **** the routes just send him deep. He can do that.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 02:33 PM
Two out of 3 of those passes to Decker were awful...Deck could have had 3 TD's today.

ONe of them was awful (down the left sideline). The other was a bit behind him, but Deck shoulda caught it.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 02:34 PM
yes...he has less than 50% completion percent....

like i said, not sure i agree with it, but we won the game...

hopefully we'll incorporate more aggressive offensive gameplan moving forward, but the win we earned was a big one...

The bar is low. He's not really an interception thrower. he has one this year? 3 last year? Come on, let him pass a little.

Gcver2ver3
11-13-2011, 02:35 PM
The Broncos lost to bad teams last year, so beating bad teams is an improvement.

excellent post...

lod01
11-13-2011, 02:37 PM
Teblow is pure garbage. This type of football will get you nowhere. Creampuff schedule is over.

Gcver2ver3
11-13-2011, 02:38 PM
The bar is low. He's not really an interception thrower. he has one this year? 3 last year? Come on, let him pass a little.

i guess you're missing my point...

besides, i already told you twice (now thrice) that i dont necessarily agree with doing it that way, but i do understand it...

and besides, we won...try and enjoy it...

lostknight
11-13-2011, 02:38 PM
The fact that it still worked after loosing your first and second running back is nothing short of staggering.

lostknight
11-13-2011, 02:40 PM
Witness Todd Hailey's post-game:
"We had a plan A, B & C on how we were going to try to stop the run...no plans ended up working the way we needed."

Jetmeck
11-13-2011, 02:41 PM
Two out of 3 of those passes to Decker were awful...Deck could have had 3 TD's today.

dammit. knock off the hatred. He hit Decker right in the hands and KC made a play but Decker damn sure coulda caught it...........come on. Whos to say why Decker got turned around on the other ????

elsid13
11-13-2011, 02:41 PM
We need Thomas to step up. He's the only huge WR we have. **** the routes just send him deep. He can do that.

To step up, he needs to be targeted. The only way that happens is that Tebow shows the coaching staff he can throw the ball, until that time they will continue to have a super conservative offense.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 02:42 PM
i guess you're missing my point...

besides, i already told you twice (now thrice) that i dont necessarily agree with doing it that way, but i do understand it...

and besides, we won...try and enjoy it...

I am enjoying it, i love having a running game, but I'm also trying to figure out the long term look for the broncos. Why does every ****ing thing have to be a zero sum game on this board? Can't I enjoy the win, yet be skeptical of the game plan and how the coaching staff has handled the offense?

I'm a believer in Timmy, i think he's a gamer, I actually trust him with the ball in his hands throwing or passing. I think we left yards on the field today, that's all.

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 02:43 PM
dammit. knock off the hatred. He hit Decker right in the hands and KC made a play but Decker damn sure coulda caught it...........come on. Whos to say why Decker got turned around on the other ????

The other one he def missed him:) But not every throw is gonna be good. The only head shaker today was the out to Rosario...i wont kill him for the deep balls.

Jetmeck
11-13-2011, 02:43 PM
I know this. Champ Bailey was shown congrats to Tim afer the Td throw and he said " SWEET". i AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

Sassy
11-13-2011, 02:43 PM
dammit. knock off the hatred. He hit Decker right in the hands and KC made a play but Decker damn sure coulda caught it...........come on. Whos to say why Decker got turned around on the other ????

Not hate...cautiously optimistic...he doesn't have enough games under his belt to sway me either direction.

Jetmeck
11-13-2011, 02:44 PM
The other one he def missed him:) But not every throw is gonna be good. The only head shaker today was the out to Rosario...i wont kill him for the deep balls.

eXACTLY RIGHT................

Sassy
11-13-2011, 02:44 PM
I know this. Champ Bailey was shown congrats to Tim afer the Td throw and he said " SWEET". i AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

Actually...I said SWEET as well on FB...no hatred there like there is here! LOL...

snowspot66
11-13-2011, 02:44 PM
To step up, he needs to be targeted. The only way that happens is that Tebow shows the coaching staff he can throw the ball, until that time they will continue to have a super conservative offense.

At least four deep throws in that game and all were catchable. Even the poorly thrown one. I'm not sure what more you could want on that. It's not like we were playing in a dome.

Gcver2ver3
11-13-2011, 02:45 PM
I am enjoying it, i love having a running game, but I'm also trying to figure out the long term look for the broncos. Why does every ****ing thing have to be a zero sum game on this board? Can't I enjoy the win, yet be skeptical of the game plan and how the coaching staff has handled the offense?

I'm a believer in Timmy, i think he's a gamer, I actually trust him with the ball in his hands throwing or passing. I think we left yards on the field today, that's all.

sure we left yards on the field, but we won the game...

i said at the beginning of this season that i will evaluate the coaching on one aspect...winning the game...

we've won back to back games for the 1st time in 28 games and both being divisional road games...we lost our two top RB options in the 1st q and still ran for 245yds....

so yeah, count me in as the guy thats going to give the coaching staff the day off on criticism...

SonOfLe-loLang
11-13-2011, 02:46 PM
sure we left yards on the field, but we won the game...

i said at the beginning of this season that i will evaluate the coaching on one aspect...winning the game...

we've won back to back games for the 1st time in 28 games and both being divisional road games...we lost our two top RB options in the 1st q and still ran for 245yds....

so yeah, count me in as the guy thats going to give the coaching staff the day off on criticism...

Fair enough, I'm just saying the conservatism is a disturbing trend for me. I'm all for a run heavy offense, but I'd like a more complete offense.

Hats off to the D today. Talk about shuttin em down.

Gcver2ver3
11-13-2011, 02:51 PM
Fair enough, I'm just saying the conservatism is a disturbing trend for me. I'm all for a run heavy offense, but I'd like a more complete offense.



yep, me too...and hopefully we'll get there...

elsid13
11-13-2011, 02:54 PM
At least four deep throws in that game and all were catchable. Even the poorly thrown one. I'm not sure what more you could want on that. It's not like we were playing in a dome.

I want the team to hit on the intermediate passing game. Right now that missing and until that develops we are going to struggle against teams that can score.

Jetmeck
11-13-2011, 02:58 PM
I want the team to hit on the intermediate passing game. Right now that missing and until that develops we are going to struggle against teams that can score.

I hear ya but I'd settle for several short ones right now........too

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 02:59 PM
Meh the WR had chances to make some more big plays and didn't do it. Bronco fans complain even when they team wins. Tebow may be changing the game. Teams keep so many dback because everyone throws so much. No one is geared to stop this big mauling run game. Once we get some passing to go with it, which is already showing it could be there deep downfeild, broncos wont be fun to play.

The cool thing about this offense is that it allows for us to win games and get Tebow up to game speed, so that his passing game has time to develop alongside everything else.

It really is a wise and good approach by the staff, and its having excellent results. Its similar to how the Steelers developed Benburger.

Its 3-1. Who woulda thunk it?

elsid13
11-13-2011, 03:10 PM
A game plan like this, makes me wonder how Tebow looked in practice last week. No OC goes into a game like this trying to limit the number of throws he going to let his QB make unless he is concerned about something.

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 03:11 PM
A game plan like this, makes me wonder how Tebow looked in practice last week. No OC goes into a game like this trying to limit the number of throws he going to let his QB make unless he is concerned about something.

The rushing game producde 300 yards last week. I'm pretty sure that they wanted to build strength on strength. That's what they have been talking about all season...finding the strengths of the team and building on them.

lod01
11-13-2011, 03:12 PM
3-1 vs some creampuffs. Not bad. Good thing this team has a defense becasue it's QB is garbage.

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 03:13 PM
3-1 vs some creampuffs. Not bad. Good thing this team has a defense becasue it's QB is garbage.

Go to the raiders forum for some comfort, troll.

lod01
11-13-2011, 03:16 PM
Go to the raiders forum for some comfort, troll.

Hilarious! You make me laugh. This dude sucks balls. Thursday night he takes a ****ing beatdown against a real d.

TotallyScrewed
11-13-2011, 03:17 PM
I love it. To me, there's nothing better than gashing a division opponent with the run... in their own house.

Sure, a few more passes would have been nice, but who cares? It's about execution. That's what people need to understand about play-calling. Yes, there are better calls to make at certain times... but it boils down to execution. The staff put us in a position to win this week, and the guys played great. (Particularly the O-line, including the TE's who blocked very well today.)

Props all around. I'm enjoying the hell out of this one.

Raiders and Cheifs back to back... on the road? That alone almost makes this QB worthwhile.

FYP.


I'm just giving ya ****! This was a fun game in KC for a change. It wasn't as cold as a witch's tit there and KC looked totally befuddled...they couldn't stop it if Fox broadcast the play into their headset. Their best play of the year (decade??) wiped out by an Illegal Formation penalty...Worthwhile?..., hell yeah!

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 03:18 PM
You make me laugh. This dude sucks balls. Thursday night he takes a ****ing beatdown against a real d.

Scoreboard.

TotallyScrewed
11-13-2011, 03:22 PM
Tebow had 68 yards passing... Cassel had 77 yards passing.

In late so my bad if this has been posted:

Cassel = 66.5 passer rating
Tebow = 102.6 (Eat your heart out, Aaron Rodgers!!!)

TotallyScrewed
11-13-2011, 03:49 PM
I am enjoying it, i love having a running game, but I'm also trying to figure out the long term look for the broncos. Why does every ****ing thing have to be a zero sum game on this board? Can't I enjoy the win, yet be skeptical of the game plan and how the coaching staff has handled the offense?

I'm a believer in Timmy, i think he's a gamer, I actually trust him with the ball in his hands throwing or passing. I think we left yards on the field today, that's all.

I know you're a big believer in Tim, as am I. Here's what I think I saw in this game (and the Oakland game).

1) Denver is going to be run dominant, even running Tebow a bunch of times. He's damn near unstoppable in the red zone!

2) The announcers said that Denver has the second youngest Oline in the NFL. I don't know if that's true but I want to believe it based on what we've seen all season...and that is a rough start (okay, god-awful!) to the year, getting better.

3) Running the ball is the easiest, most enjoyable part of the Oline play (again, according to the announcers). Today, Fox and Co. said go learn to be a unit. Win the battles even when KC knows what is coming. And by golly, they did! Excellent job, Oline!!

4) There is no way that the staff thought...what if we lose McGahee and Moreno early??? And what they did was say...doesn't matter: Ball and Larson are going to get enough to keep us going. Hat on a hat and win that line of scrimmage! I think this would have been an embarrassment of the ages (for the Chefs), had McGahee and Moreno stayed healthy.

cutthemdown
11-13-2011, 03:51 PM
You could see how frustrated the queef players were. They wanted to bad to force Tebow into a big mistake but none were there.

fontaine
11-13-2011, 03:54 PM
Oh no.

we won battle but lost the style points war!

AlphaSeirra
11-13-2011, 04:20 PM
Got to be the most lopsided run/pass ration of playcalling in NFL history.

8 passes has got to be the fewest passes thrown by 1 team in a game in NFL history.

2 completions has got to be the fewest pass completions by a qb in any game in NFL history.

Not at all a diss on Tebow. He did have 4 drops afterall.

Still, I cannot believe this gameplan was executed to a Broncos victory.

Man do I HEAR YA on that. :wave:

The Bronco HBC/FO pulled the genius of trading away their Top 2 2010 WR's, which included their ONLY Pro Bowler. (Gaffney & Lloyd)

Fox is the offensive genius that drafted and played Jimmy 'da Pickle' Clausen.
The QB was benched after throwing for 3 TD's to 9 Int's.

And then that genius HBC was FREAKIN' FIRED at season's end.

So Denver's genius FO/Owner stepped right in and hired that genius.
He then started 4-14 Orton 104 PER over 4-3 Tebow 108 PER.

Psssst! Without the 4 drops, Tebow would have been 6 of 8 for 75%, but that's ALL on Tebow's weak/inaccurate arm, right? :~ohyah!:

Maybe they just need to train Tim to throw the ball real high up and then run down field and catch it too... :yayaya:

errand
11-13-2011, 04:45 PM
On one side its hard to criticize when you run so well on first and second down. On the other, in the second half it would have been nice to see some throws on those longer third downs instead of the predictable QB run up the middle. McCoy really drives me nuts with those ones.

We won, should it matter how? again hate to quote Al...but "Just win, baby!"


Not sure about him having four passes dropped...I only recall Decker dropping that first deep one....the one to royal down the sideline was a bad pass, as was the other to Decker down the opposite sideline...

he still struggles with his accuracy which is probably why we're seeing more runs than passes...but blame the OC for calling what works.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-13-2011, 04:53 PM
Hilarious! You make me laugh. This dude sucks balls. Thursday night he takes a ****ing beatdown against a real d.

Broncos won. You'll get over it.

ScottXray
11-13-2011, 04:56 PM
Two out of 3 of those passes to Decker were awful...Deck could have had 3 TD's today.

Now your'e projecting.

One was PERFECT, and of the other two , one was catcheable but slightly underthrown, and one was about 2 yards left of Deckers position...Deck made a good play on it even then and probably prevented a pick. The other deep throw to Royal was also well thrown and I'm almost positive the defender was holding Royals left arm and keeping him from extending to the right sideline....which was why Royal thought he should have had a PI call. That ball was also Perfect as only Royal could have got to it and he still got a hand on it.

Ball dropped a pass cleanly in his hands and Royal dropped a shovel pass also.

Tebow through ONE bad ball today, to the right side for Thomas I believe ( in the dirt). Other than that he played well.

Sassy
11-13-2011, 05:03 PM
Not talking about Royal...talking about the other two that Deck had going into the endzone.
Not projecting there...watch the replay...
Not sold on Tebow yet...and no, I don't hate the guy...give him time...he needs to throw more passes though...


and all I want is for the Broncos to win:~ohyah!:

Rolandftw
11-13-2011, 05:14 PM
Well, im glad it worked today, but I'd really like to see us come out with some playaction next week. Like first drive. Like first play. It worked today, but lets not pretend that was great offense

No way. Not against the Jets. Today's play calling was stupid at times but if there was ever a time I'd be okay with it--it'd be against NYJ. Don't want to take too many chances on that secondary.

Their offense is bad enough, that a conservative game would give Denver a better chance of victory then taking a lot of chances in the passing game.

But great win today. Nothing like enduring trash talk from Chief fans all game, only for that to turn into whining and crying about how the refs gave the game away at the end. Tebow didn't pass much, but the long pass to Decker was a thing of beauty.

Hope our RB's are ok.

ScottXray
11-13-2011, 05:21 PM
Not talking about Royal...talking about the other two that Deck had going into the endzone.
Not projecting there...watch the replay...
Not sold on Tebow yet...and no, I don't hate the guy...give him time...he needs to throw more passes though...


and all I want is for the Broncos to win:~ohyah!:

It's Hard to be perfect or develope a feel for the throw when you get to throw ONCE every series ( on average) and the call is a deep throw, 4 out of 8 times.

I don't fault the play calling because we won ( YES) , and they were protecting the lead... but when KC pulled within 3 they called the deep pass again and Tebow hit that Perfect throw to Decker to kill their comeback.

Eventually they will have to let him throw more, because someone is going to stop that run game eventually , or the O-line won't do as well.
So far, except for one game, he has come up clutch when he needed to. That says a lot to me about what he CAN do.,

errand
11-13-2011, 05:23 PM
Did people see what McDaniels did here?

well, let's see...

He drafted the guy that helped us win back to back games for the first time in two seasons, that has 8 TD's vs 1 INT, and is 4-3 as a starter, (3-1 this year)...BTW, this is the same guy who's poster or fathead you jizz all over as you engage in the throes of self-motivated ectasy while doing your "private hero-worshipping"

He drafted 2 of our OL starters that have started to develop into the maulers he thought they would as the Broncos have started to become the smash-mouth team he wanted to build.

He drafted the guy that caught the 56 yard TD pass which is like his 7th TD of the year, and who basically has been our most consistent WR this year.

He drafted the RB that leaped over a defender en route to a 24 yard gain that set up our first TD...

He traded for the guy that is one of our D's leading tackler in Joe Mays...

Sure he was in over his head as HC...but what cannot be denied is he tried to infuse this old tired team with some speed and youth..and while he's not around to see it come to light, the bottom line is we're winning now with guys he drafted or traded for.

edog24
11-13-2011, 05:27 PM
I liked the playcalling. How does a team stand a chance against us when we control the ball running for repeated first downs. I would like to see more mid range passing in the future.

errand
11-13-2011, 05:28 PM
I choose to disagree. Our D won us that game and the offense did a good job with ball control. It was hardly "excellent." Obviously it wasnt bad, we won, but i have no doubt we left points and yards on the field.

Colquitt also deserves props because he kept those red and white bastards pinned deep in their end of the field with his punts....

Sassy
11-13-2011, 05:29 PM
Just saw a post saying Knowshon's knee is a mild sprain....didn't say how bad of a hammy pull Magahee had though.

errand
11-13-2011, 05:33 PM
the miami dolphins in the early 70's won two SB's (including their record 17-0 season) by throwing the ball a combined 18-19 times in both of them.....just saying that running the ball and playing solid D can get r done just as well as throwing 40 times a game does.

Fedaykin
11-13-2011, 05:34 PM
7:1 run:pass ain't gonna cut it against real teams.

Man-Goblin
11-13-2011, 05:42 PM
we earned a quick lead and we were on the road...

Fox was protecting the lead, not the prettiest thing to watch and i'm not 100% convinced i agree with it....but on the road in arrowhead with a young guy playing only his 7th ever start...

didnt want to take a chance unless he absolutely had to...

I agree to an extent. You've got to keep this thing dumbed down right now and keep running if it is working for you.

But what exactly are we protecting from? It's not like Tebow's out there throwing it to the other team all the time. They need to open this thing up a little bit.

They need to dust off Shanahan's 2005 Jake Plummer playbook. Come out with a game plan that's 1/2 what they did today, 1/2 of the keep Jake Plummer under control offense. Getting the stretch play going would just add to the effectiveness of the run game, and Tebow on those boots would be a good way to get him into a rhythm.

errand
11-13-2011, 05:43 PM
dammit. knock off the hatred.

It's not hatred fool...it's just constructive criticism. People want him to improve on his accuracy

He hit Decker right in the hands and KC made a play but Decker damn sure coulda caught it...........come on.

The first one, yes, Decker should have caught that pass...the other one on the sideline? You're nuts if you didn't see the ball go outside when it shoulda been thrown inside

Whos to say why Decker got turned around on the other ????

See above...that was just a bad pass...period

in bold

errand
11-13-2011, 05:46 PM
To step up, he needs to be targeted. The only way that happens is that Tebow shows the coaching staff he can throw the ball, until that time they will continue to have a super conservative offense.

Exactly...none of his nuthugging legion will ever say the truth...that cuz he hasn't thrown the ball with even average accuracy, let alone good accuracy is why we run the ball so much more than they like.

errand
11-13-2011, 05:51 PM
A game plan like this, makes me wonder how Tebow looked in practice last week. No OC goes into a game like this trying to limit the number of throws he going to let his QB make unless he is concerned about something.

well to hear Tebowites, practice doesn't mean a hill of beans....

But you do pose an interesting question...what are they seeing in practice that makes them say "We gotta run it 50 times and throw it only 8"

Mile High Mojoe
11-13-2011, 05:54 PM
Got to be the most lopsided run/pass ration of playcalling in NFL history.

8 passes has got to be the fewest passes thrown by 1 team in a game in NFL history.

2 completions has got to be the fewest pass completions by a qb in any game in NFL history.

Not at all a diss on Tebow. He did have 4 drops afterall.

Still, I cannot believe this gameplan was executed to a Broncos victory.

http://broncoplanet.com/2011/11/elway-tebow-and-a-tale-of-2-games-in-kc/

elsid13
11-13-2011, 06:04 PM
well to hear Tebowites, practice doesn't mean a hill of beans....

But you do pose an interesting question...what are they seeing in practice that makes them say "We gotta run it 50 times and throw it only 8"

Now that I thought about it pretty easy to guess what they are seeing:

a.) Two young wide receivers(Thomas and Decker) that have trouble getting off the bump and lack experience/timing playing with Tebow
b.) A right tackle that so-so in pass protect
c.) A left tackle that is still struggling with a knee issue and not moving his feet enough when dealing with speed rushers
d.) A young middle of the line that not doesn't always use good techinque when comes to engaging defense tackles.
e.) A QB that is inconstant and has accuracy issues.
f.) A head coach that wants to run the ball and is not very aggressive

I would run the ball to if I was McCoy if that what I was dealing with.

barryr
11-13-2011, 06:07 PM
Now that I thought about it pretty easy to guess what they are seeing:

a.) Two young wide receivers(Thomas and Decker) that have trouble getting off the bump and lack experience/timing playing with Tebow
b.) A right tackle that so-so in pass protect
c.) A left tackle that is still struggling with a knee issue and not moving his feet enough when dealing with speed rushers
d.) A young middle of the line that not doesn't always use good techinque when comes to engaging defense tackles.
e.) A QB that is inconstant and has accuracy issues.
f.) A head coach that wants to run the ball and is not very aggressive

I would run the ball to if I was McCoy if that what I was dealing with.

And not only that, but a loud stadium as well, so the OL can be slower off the snap, not to mention harder to audible. But why should the Broncos throw it 20-25 times if the running game is working so well? I just don't get what people want here. It isn't like they have won that many games in KC over the years, so isn't that more important than Tebow having nice stats?

myMind
11-13-2011, 06:12 PM
7:1 run:pass ain't gonna cut it against real teams.

Why?
Why do we have to look like every other team.
If we can be productive playing a different style, Im all for it.

elsid13
11-13-2011, 06:12 PM
And not only that, but a loud stadium as well, so the OL can be slower off the snap, not to mention harder to audible. But why should the Broncos throw it 20-25 times if the running game is working so well? I just don't get what people want here. It isn't like they have won that many games in KC over the years, so isn't that more important than Tebow having nice stats?

Just because I understand McCoy/Fox logic system doesn't mean I agree with it. Throwing in a couple of PA, rollouts and Screens would have put this game away a lot sooner then we did. At some point Tebow and this offense are going have to execute a professional passing attack if they want to win against a good NFL team.

Dedhed
11-13-2011, 06:33 PM
That game wasn't pretty, tim is capable of more.

Tim is capable of more, but 230+ yards rushing and a win in Arrowhead is damn pretty.

Dedhed
11-13-2011, 06:36 PM
7:1 run:pass ain't gonna cut it against real teams.
There's been a lot of this mantra floating around since Tebow got the job. This isn't going to work, that isn't going to cut it, you can't win games attempting 8 passes, etc.

So far it's working at a .750 clip. Keep whining, though, it's fun to watch.

barryr
11-13-2011, 06:36 PM
Just because I understand McCoy/Fox logic system doesn't mean I agree with it. Throwing in a couple of PA, rollouts and Screens would have put this game away a lot sooner then we did. At some point Tebow and this offense are going have to execute a professional passing attack if they want to win against a good NFL team.

I have had issues with the play calling as well, but today was a day to win a game and worry about developing a QB later. Some games you can not do both and it was decided to play it conservative, especially with the ground game that worked and a defense that was playing great. I think all of us, including the Broncos are well aware they need to improve the passing attack. That is hardly news.

barryr
11-13-2011, 06:37 PM
There's been a lot of this mantra floating around since Tebow got the job. This isn't going to work, that isn't going to cut it, you can't win games attempting 8 passes, etc.

So far it's working at a .750 clip. Keep whining, though, it's fun to watch.

True, then they come back with "they won against bad teams" like this team has just been piling up a ton of wins lately against anybody.

snowspot66
11-13-2011, 06:39 PM
A game plan like this, makes me wonder how Tebow looked in practice last week. No OC goes into a game like this trying to limit the number of throws he going to let his QB make unless he is concerned about something.

They said Fox wanted about 35 runs and 20 passes if they had 55 plays. I don't think they anticipated the running game working so well and thus the imbalance.

Sassy
11-13-2011, 06:40 PM
fox said in his post game interview...that the run was working well, so he went with it..."If its not broke don't fix it" type of mentality.

Dedhed
11-13-2011, 06:41 PM
Not talking about Royal...talking about the other two that Deck had going into the endzone.
Not projecting there...watch the replay...
Not sold on Tebow yet...and no, I don't hate the guy...give him time...he needs to throw more passes though...


and all I want is for the Broncos to win:~ohyah!:

Keep whining and trolling while the rest of us enjoy our first winning streak in 2 years.

barryr
11-13-2011, 06:44 PM
fox said in his post game interview...that the run was working well, so he went with it..."If its not broke don't fix it" type of mentality.

Exactly and they had the lead and the defense was playing great. But bozos around here think they should have started throwing the ball all around with a young QB, on the road, a place they have rarely won, with only one WR who has shown any ability to get open. If they were coaching, the Broncos likely lose this game. But seems Tebow looking better at QB is more important than winning games. Whatever.

maher_tyler
11-13-2011, 06:49 PM
Don't want to be a buzz kill, but it was the Chiefs. ;D

How embarrassed would you be if a team did that to us?? Haley will be gone after this year maybe even at some point this season.

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 07:27 PM
There's been a lot of this mantra floating around since Tebow got the job. This isn't going to work, that isn't going to cut it, you can't win games attempting 8 passes, etc.

So far it's working at a .750 clip. Keep whining, though, it's fun to watch.

You'd think that people would enjoy winning.

TonyR
11-13-2011, 08:14 PM
Its similar to how the Steelers developed Benburger.

Fyi...
Roethlisberger's rookie year he averaged 187 ypg passing, had a 66.4% completion percentage, and a 98.1 rating.
Tebow's numbers are 114, 46.4%, 80.1.

yerner
11-13-2011, 08:37 PM
Fyi...
Roethlisberger's rookie year he averaged 187 ypg passing, had a 66.4% completion percentage, and a 98.1 rating.
Tebow's numbers are 114, 46.4%, 80.1.

hater.

Dedhed
11-13-2011, 08:39 PM
Fyi...
Roethlisberger's rookie year he averaged 187 ypg passing, had a 66.4% completion percentage, and a 98.1 rating.

On the best team in football.

snowspot66
11-13-2011, 08:52 PM
Fyi...
Roethlisberger's rookie year he averaged 187 ypg passing, had a 66.4% completion percentage, and a 98.1 rating.
Tebow's numbers are 114, 46.4%, 80.1.

One team nearly went to the Super Bowl.

Just saying.

Sassy
11-13-2011, 09:27 PM
Keep whining and trolling while the rest of us enjoy our first winning streak in 2 years.

Some of you are just worthless...talk about trolling Hilarious!
BTW...I am enjoying the win! LOL Very much.

HAT
11-13-2011, 09:36 PM
You'd think that people would enjoy winning.

We do...We just hate you as a poster.

OABB
11-13-2011, 09:37 PM
hater.

3-1....how does tebows ass taste?

Sassy
11-13-2011, 09:37 PM
Ha! LOL...our local news guy just said Tim Tebow 2 for 8 and NO that is not a typo. ;D

epicSocialism4tw
11-13-2011, 09:42 PM
We do...We just hate you as a poster.

I guess it feels sad to be so perpetually pwned, eh?

Bronco Yoda
11-13-2011, 11:04 PM
We ran it up their ass.

Loved it!

AlphaSeirra
11-14-2011, 10:08 AM
Ha! LOL...our local news guy just said Tim Tebow 2 for 8 and NO that is not a typo. ;D

That's just more Biased Opinion, not news.

Had he included that the receivers had 4 drops, then that would be news.

Or that Tebow would have had 75% completions without the drops, that would have been news too.

But Biased Opinions seems to sell better these days....

Is NO ONE smart enough to understand what these stats say and mean?

Orton 58.7% ---- 8 TD's to 7 Ints - PER 75.7 W/L 1-4

Tebow 44.8% --- 7 TD's to 1 Int --- PER 81.6 - W/L 3-1

You choose.... ;)

maven
11-14-2011, 10:09 AM
Passing will go up as Tebow becomes more comfortable with the offense. Right now running the ball is a great asset to Tebow to help him learn the game.

AlphaSeirra
11-14-2011, 10:16 AM
I liked the playcalling. How does a team stand a chance against us when we control the ball running for repeated first downs. I would like to see more mid range passing in the future.

Then call the next opposing team and ask them to leave the middle open.

And then tell the Bronco receivers to run good routs, get open, and then CATCH the damn ball when it hits their hands.... ;)

No Prob-blem-mo! ;D

yerner
11-14-2011, 10:56 AM
3-1....how does tebows ass taste?

Awesome. I like the broncos to win. But don't cry when Tebow's not here next year, ******.

OABB
11-14-2011, 11:02 AM
Awesome. I like the broncos to win. But don't cry when Tebow's not here next year, ******.

I wont cry. Ill be dead from a self inflicted gunshot wound.

TonyR
11-14-2011, 11:10 AM
On the best team in football.

I'm not sure how that's relevant. In fact, on a bad team you'd expect more passing yards, not less. Bad teams are playing from behind more often and are therefore throwing more often. And vice versa for good teams. The unpopular truth is that Roethlisberger was a much better passer early in his career than Tebow is, while Tebow is a far, far superior runner.

Sassy
11-14-2011, 11:14 AM
That's just more Biased Opinion, not news.

Had he included that the receivers had 4 drops, then that would be news.

Or that Tebow would have had 75% completions without the drops, that would have been news too.

But Biased Opinions seems to sell better these days....

Is NO ONE smart enough to understand what these stats say and mean?

Orton 58.7% ---- 8 TD's to 7 Ints - PER 75.7 W/L 1-4

Tebow 44.8% --- 7 TD's to 1 Int --- PER 81.6 - W/L 3-1

You choose.... ;)

Biased opinion? They had the stats on the board. Tebow was 2/8 that was a fact. I was laughing at the fact that he said it wasn't a typo. He didn't have an opinion one way or another. All he was doing was reporting the game scores. Love how you guys read stuff into posts around here and get a little on the HOT side when it comes to Tebow.

cutthemdown
11-14-2011, 11:42 AM
Awesome. I like the broncos to win. But don't cry when Tebow's not here next year, ******.

I don't see why he wouldn't be. He's going to be a great QB.

AlphaSeirra
11-14-2011, 11:53 AM
Biased opinion? They had the stats on the board. Tebow was 2/8 that was a fact. I was laughing at the fact that he said it wasn't a typo. He didn't have an opinion one way or another. All he was doing was reporting the game scores. Love how you guys read stuff into posts around here and get a little on the HOT side when it comes to Tebow.

Nope, incorrect, not hot in the least, just chatting.

Actually, Tebow was 6 of 8 passing.

It was the receivers that went 2 of 8 on the day. :welcome:

And it's the entire rest of the offense that determined how many passes could be thrown.

;)

Sassy
11-14-2011, 12:04 PM
Nope, incorrect, not hot in the least, just chatting.

Actually, Tebow was 6 of 8 passing.

It was the receivers that went 2 of 8 on the day. :welcome:

And it's the entire rest of the offense that determined how many passes could be thrown.

;)

LOL
Everything can be interpreted in numerous ways! ;D