Cain: Just Another Republican Sexual Offender

[Rohirrim]

What is it with these Right Wingers? I guess they just consider women to be their personal tools. Well, I suppose the Republicans are breathing a sigh of relief about this. At least it was women, eh? ;D

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/30/herman-cain-sexual-harassment-accusations_n_1066487.html

[peacepipe]

LOL

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YURoQHnRhZg/Tck564zcAII/AAAAAAAACrk/vwVwEDIvoxM/s1600/Former_president_Bill_clinton-4.jpg

http://www.topnews.in/files/Monica_Lewinsky.jpg

Yeah.

[bronclvr]

I hope this proves to be right, i don't want Cain-I am torn between voting for Romney or Obama-who is worse?

[W*GS]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Kx2FCi4e5dk/RuAsB0nxvtI/AAAAAAAAAOk/BK7VtOZ-puc/s320/larry_craig_bathroom_stall.jpg

[Smiling Assassin27]

Ever hear of John Edwards? Let's not make this into a partisan thing because I think we can all agree that there are a-holes who view women as sperm catchers in both parties.

As for Cain, he denies it. Too many questions still remain to pass judgement on this matter, but by all means, jump the gun and be proven stupid again, folks.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YURoQHnRhZg/Tck564zcAII/AAAAAAAACrk/vwVwEDIvoxM/s1600/Former_president_Bill_clinton-4.jpg

http://www.topnews.in/files/Monica_Lewinsky.jpg

Yeah.

Swing and a miss.

That was consensual.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Ever hear of John Edwards?

Also consensual. Nice try.

I'm sure ol' Herm appreciates the deflection attempt.

[Tombstone RJ]

I guess Weiner was consensual too... pretty weak smear article by the ultra leftest manifesto huffington...

[Garcia Bronco]

WTF is this thread?

[Pony Boy]

What is it with these Right Wingers? I guess they just consider women to be their personal tools. Well, I suppose the Republicans are breathing a sigh of relief about this. At least it was women, eh?

Yes....... Another high-tech lynching, Clarence Thomas and now Herman Cain

Roh, I never pictured pictured you as the pointed hat type guy but you wear it well.

[ant1999e]

David Wu

Former Rep. Mel Reynolds. The Illinois Democrat was convicted of 12 counts of sexual assault with a 16-year-old. President Bill Clinton pardoned him before leaving office.

Barney Frank admitted in 1990 to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex, subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant, and getting 33 parking tickets dismissed for him; Gobie also used the congressman's apartment for prostitution. A move to expel Frank from the House of Representatives failed on a 38 to 390 vote; a motion to censure him failed 141-287; finally, the House voted to reprimand him by a vote of 408 to 18.

[ant1999e]

If it's true, he's done.

[Blart]

Republicans currently have the lead in sex scandals by about 2 to 1. Social conservatives always have more to hide :)

http://www.nerve.com/news/politics/republican-sex-scandals-outnumber-democrat-sex-scandals-two-to-one

The best are always the anti-gay evangelists caught with rent boys.

http://www.ranker.com/list/top-10-anti-gay-activists-caught-being-gay/joanne

[Pony Boy]

If it's true, he's done.

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[ant1999e]

Republicans currently have the lead in sex scandals by about 2 to 1. Social conservatives always have more to hide :)

http://www.nerve.com/news/politics/republican-sex-scandals-outnumber-democrat-sex-scandals-two-to-one

The best are always the anti-gay evangelists caught with rent boys.

http://www.ranker.com/list/top-10-anti-gay-activists-caught-being-gay/joanne

That's a silly statement. What are the parameters? DOes adultery count? I think it's best just to agree that there are sexual sickos in both parties.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I think it's best just to agree that there are sexual sickos in both parties.

But that would obscure the fact that the number of sickos (especially pedophiles) in the GOP outstrips the Dems exponentially.

(See Spider's thread.)

[Garcia Bronco]

I work with an HR departments in several companies in what I do from an investigation perspective. I would say that near 50 percent of all SH claims are just that...claims. Rarely does it actually happen from a legal perspective.

[ant1999e]

But that would obscure the fact that the number of sickos (especially pedophiles) in the GOP outstrips the Dems exponentially.

(See Spider's thread.)

And the same type of thread can be made for dems. Just because a trucker who was out of work had the time to make such a dumb ass thread really only proves that he had alot of time on his hands.

Does it really matter what political party a sick asshole belongs to? After all, aren't the victims the ones we should be concerned about? Not to LABF and his dipshyt brigade. Let's make everything political. You don't give a shyt about anything but your political agenda.

[Rigs11]

well looks like the righties will have to start looking for new avatar pics around here. hurry!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Does it really matter what political party a sick a-hole belongs to?

It most certainly matters to you and your fellow right-wing jackals.

That's why you are working so hard to deflect here.

[Tombstone RJ]

David Wu

Former Rep. Mel Reynolds. The Illinois Democrat was convicted of 12 counts of sexual assault with a 16-year-old. President Bill Clinton pardoned him before leaving office.

Barney Frank admitted in 1990 to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex, subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant, and getting 33 parking tickets dismissed for him; Gobie also used the congressman's apartment for prostitution. A move to expel Frank from the House of Representatives failed on a 38 to 390 vote; a motion to censure him failed 141-287; finally, the House voted to reprimand him by a vote of 408 to 18.

Let's not forget uncle Ted. He's the life long democratic senator that picked up a girl at a party while he was schit faced drunk, then promptly drove himself and her off a bridge into a river and left her there to drown.

thanks Ted, you're a swell guy. How about we elect you to the senate for life, us democrats are just soooo enlightened, no?

[orinjkrush]

demon-crats and republi-****s are equally loathsome.

its all about power. power corrupts. absolutely.

TERM LIMITS.

[cutthemdown]

It's the liberal handbook in action. If said person is white, you attack with charges of racism. If said person is not white you charge them with sexual harassment. Clarence Thomas anyone!

[Rohirrim]

It's the liberal handbook in action. If said person is white, you attack with charges of racism. If said person is not white you charge them with sexual harassment. Clarence Thomas anyone!

Republican Handbook #101: No matter what it is, it's always somebody else's fault. :-*

[cutthemdown]

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/jon_s_corzine/index.html?inline=nyt-per

There ya go another democratic crook.

[ant1999e]

demon-crats and republi-****s are equally loathsome.

its all about power. power corrupts. absolutely.

TERM LIMITS.

This.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

demon-crats and republi-****s are equally loathsome.

its all about power. power corrupts. absolutely.

TERM LIMITS.

I'll take two please.

[barryr]

Ah, the liberals show their true colors. Cain does not know his place for the liberals, so this is what they need to do. Cain has been in the media for awhile now, but this comes out now? Right. Liberals are never comfortable with black conservatives. Judge Thomas can attest to that. Besides, if Cain was a democrat, even before any evidence came out, racism would be their charge for such a story coming out now. Liberals worry about blacks as long as it helps them politically and they can keep them dependent on the government.

[pricejj]

Swing and a miss.

That was consensual.

Gennifer Flowers and Paula Jones weren't.

[Spider]

LOL you bedwetters should be happy a republican sex scandal that doesnt involve children or same sex .... makes your leaders look almost normal

[Tombstone RJ]

Republican Handbook #101: No matter what it is, it's always somebody else's fault. :-*

that's the Dems handbook rule. See BO for example A.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Gennifer Flowers and Paula Jones weren't.

Their charges were bunk.

News seems to travel slowly to the cave you inhabit - one wonders if you've even heard the word that the Clintons were exonerated in the GOP's Whitewater fishing expedition?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

LOL you bedwetters should be happy a republican sex scandal that doesnt involve children or same sex .... makes your leaders look almost normal

Ha!

Exactly.

This is a rare exception, isn't it?

[cutthemdown]

Their charges were bunk.

News seems to travel slowly to the cave you inhabit - one wonders if you've even heard the word that the Clintons were exonerated in the GOP's Whitewater fishing expedition?

How does cain exonerate himself in a he said she said situation? How does anyone?

[Rohirrim]

How does cain exonerate himself in a he said she said situation? How does anyone?

He pays them off, obviously (which is what he did).

BTW, there were two women. So it's more like he said, they said.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

http://www.politifake.org/image/political/0912/sex-education-fail-bill-clinton-and-monica-lewinsky-political-poster-1260896390.jpg

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

^

False equivalence.

That was consensual.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

^

False equivalence.

That was consensual.

Did you read the the manual. Sexual harassment is not about consent, its about power.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Did you read the the manual. Sexual harassment is not about consent, its about power.

But Clinton didn't force himself on Monica - she entered into the relationship of her own accord.

Unlike the gay pedophiles your party usually elects to higher office, chicks actually dug Clinton.

[Pony Boy]

But Clinton didn't force himself on Monica - she entered into the relationship of her own accord.

Unlike the gay pedophiles your party usually elects to higher office, chicks actually dug Clinton.

29454

[Rohirrim]

Oops! Looks like this isn't going away.

A lawyer for one of the two women who made complaints of sexual harassment against Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain has claimed he is not telling the truth about the allegations
.
The attorney, Joel P. Bennett, told CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 that his client was "very upset" and was considering talking publicly about the case if she was released from a confidentiality clause.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45129156/ns/politics-decision_2012/#.TrFZcxykFDQ


Where's the drama llama, to defend his hero?

[Mile High Mojoe]

Democrats have very short memories remember Slick Willie’s many sexual misconduct cases? Clinton makes Cain look like a celibate Monk.

Bill Clinton's long history of sexual violence against women

(EDITOR'S NOTE: Capitol Hill Blue first published an account of more than a dozen women who have reported being either assaulted or raped by Bill Clinton over the last 30 years. Since that story was first published, Juanita Broaddrick, one of the women mentioned in this story, has gone public with an interview and two other victims have given us permission to use their names. The updated story appears below)

By Daniel J. Harris
& Teresa Hampton
Capitol Hill Blue

Juanita Broaddrick's terrifying story of a violent rape by Bill Clinton is only one of more than a dozen cases of sexual assault by the President that go back 30 years.

Capitol Hill Blue has confirmed that the charge is but one of many allegations of sexual assault by the President.

A five month investigation into the President's questionable sexual history reveal incidents that go back as far as Clinton's college days, with more than a dozen women claiming his sexual appetites leave little room for the word ''no.''

Juanita Broaddrick, an Arkansas woman who worked on Bill Clinton's campaign when he was attorney general, told NBC's Lisa Meyers she was raped by Clinton. NBC, under intense pressure by the White House, shelved the interview. The White House also threatened Fox News Tuesday after it reported the story. Broaddrick finally took her story to The Wall Street Journal, which published her account of the brutal rape at the hands of the future President.

But Broaddrick's story is only one account of many sexual assaults by Clinton. Among the other incidents:

• A 1969 charge by a Eileen Wellstone, 19-year-old English woman who said Clinton assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford University campus where the future President was a student. A retired State Department employee, who asked not to be identified, confirmed this week that he spoke with the family of the girl and filed a report with his superiors. Clinton admitted having sex with the girl, but claimed it was consensual. The victim's family declined to pursue the case;

• In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, who was a law student at the college. No charges were filed, but retired campus policemen contacted by Capitol Hill Blue confirmed the incident;

• In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law professor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. Clinton claimed the student ''came on'' to him and she left the school shortly after the incident. Several former students at the University have confirmed the incident in confidential interviews;

• Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton's attorney general campaign, said he raped her in 1978;

• From 1978-1980, during Clinton's first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor reported seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually. One retired state trooper said in an interview that the common joke among those assigned to protect Clinton was "who's next?";

• Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won her state crown. Last year, Ward, who is now married with the last name of Gracen, told an interviewer she did have sex with Clinton but said it was consensual. She later recanted that interview and said she had been threatened by Clinton supporters into claiming the sex was consensual.

• Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral sex. Clinton settled the case with Jones recently with a cash payment.

• Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation's capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She says she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel suite to bang on the door and ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut if she wanted to keep working. Miss James has since married and left Washington.

• Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993. Willey, who told her story in a 60 Minutes interview, became a target of a White House-directed smear campaign after she went public.

[Rohirrim]

Isn't Clinton a retired politician living in New York while Cain is running for president?

Nice attempt at deflection though.

[TonyR]

The reaction from the righties is oh-so-predictable...


All this may work to Herman Cain’s advantage. I was listening to Rush Limbaugh for a few minutes in a cab this afternoon and the immediate assumption by Limbaugh and several callers was that Cain was being set up by the liberal media. The notion of black man as sexual predator is a particularly toxic stereotype–and it may intensify the self-righteous satisfaction some Republicans are getting from supporting a conservative black man for President.

http://swampland.time.com/2011/11/01/cain-game-why-sexual-harrassment-allegations-wont-sink-hermans-campaign/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+timeblogs%2Fswampland+%28TIME %3A+Swampland%29

[Mile High Mojoe]

Isn't Clinton a retired politician living in New York while Cain is running for president?

Nice attempt at deflection though.

You claim to be so freaking clever and witty and call me an idiot. It's a simple point, but I'll explain so you can understand it. The Dems had no problem whatsoever with his troubles and elected the creep twice but Cain has a 2 sexual harassment cases filed against him and it's time for the hanging. Clinton gets away with multiple rapes, sexual assaults and harassment and that's perfectly fine, Cain settles over 2 sexual harassment cases he's done. Get it now smart guy?

[Mile High Mojoe]

http://www.politifake.org/image/political/0912/sex-education-fail-bill-clinton-and-monica-lewinsky-political-poster-1260896390.jpg

:thanku:

[Rohirrim]

You claim to be so freaking clever and witty and call me an idiot. It's a simple point, but I'll explain so you can understand it. The Dems had no problem whatsoever with his troubles and elected the creep twice but Cain has a 2 sexual harassment cases filed against him and it's time for the hanging. Clinton gets away with multiple rapes, sexual assaults and harassment and that's perfectly fine, Cain settles over 2 sexual harassment cases he's done. Get it now smart guy?

If you take one look at Clinton's policies, it's pretty clear that he was a Republican.

[TonyR]

Cain is executing a business plan. It’s an excellent plan. The plan involves Cain raising his profile as a conservative personality, which he can monetize through motivational speaking, book sales, talk shows, and other media. Cain’s selling point is that he’s a black conservative who can capitalize on the sense of white racial victimization that has mushroomed during the Obama era. Accordingly, Cain assures conservatives that they are not racist, as proven by their support for him. Indeed, it is the liberals who are racist, as evidenced by their opposition to Cain.

If Cain were campaigning to be president, the scandal would hurt him. Since he is instead campaigning to boost his profile, it will help him.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/11/everything_is_working_out_for.html

[Mile High Mojoe]

Cain is executing a business plan. It’s an excellent plan. The plan involves Cain raising his profile as a conservative personality, which he can monetize through motivational speaking, book sales, talk shows, and other media. Cain’s selling point is that he’s a black conservative who can capitalize on the sense of white racial victimization that has mushroomed during the Obama era. Accordingly, Cain assures conservatives that they are not racist, as proven by their support for him. Indeed, it is the liberals who are racist, as evidenced by their opposition to Cain.

If Cain were campaigning to be president, the scandal would hurt him. Since he is instead campaigning to boost his profile, it will help him.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/11/everything_is_working_out_for.html

God this is BS post on so many levels, you've been watching MSLSD for too long.

[Mile High Mojoe]

If you take one look at Clinton's policies, it's pretty clear that he was a Republican.

He got run over by Republicans because they had the majority but he was no Republican. He never had an original thought in his life he just rubber stamped all the agenda the GOP congress purposed that had very wide spread popular support by the American people.

Those policies lead to a huge recover in the economy and the debt. All Clinton did was sign his name and for that he's Hero to the Libs. The problem is the Libs never get the facts right and always try to rewrite history. In this case giving Clinton all the credit when he deserves none. Putting his signature to paper, what a icon, what a leader of men.

[Rohirrim]

Cain is executing a business plan. It’s an excellent plan. The plan involves Cain raising his profile as a conservative personality, which he can monetize through motivational speaking, book sales, talk shows, and other media. Cain’s selling point is that he’s a black conservative who can capitalize on the sense of white racial victimization that has mushroomed during the Obama era. Accordingly, Cain assures conservatives that they are not racist, as proven by their support for him. Indeed, it is the liberals who are racist, as evidenced by their opposition to Cain.

If Cain were campaigning to be president, the scandal would hurt him. Since he is instead campaigning to boost his profile, it will help him.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/11/everything_is_working_out_for.html

This is another fallacious dogma that the Right insists on believing in, that government should be run like a business. That's like saying you should treat your dog like a fish.

[Tombstone RJ]

^

False equivalence.

That was consensual.

Clinton also had women claiming sexual harassment, but you forgot about those, right?

Riiiiight :thumbsup:

[Rohirrim]

Clinton also had women claiming sexual harassment, but you forgot about those, right?

Riiiiight :thumbsup:

Clinton was impeached for his stupidity. Doesn't Cain deserve some kind of equal treatment? Or are you some kind of racist? ;D

[Mile High Mojoe]

Clinton was impeached for his stupidity. Doesn't Cain deserve some kind of equal treatment? Or are you some kind of racist? ;D

You make the best circular arguments, it’s what most of us call a circle jerk or running interference. Keep trying though someday you’ll really believe in your own BS.

[Rohirrim]

You make the best circular arguments, it’s what most of us call a circle jerk or running interference. Keep trying though someday you’ll really believe in your own BS.

So, if Clinton had paid off Paula Jones and Monica and his lawyers had sealed the deal with a non-disclosure agreement, you would have supported that agreement?

[Spider]

So, if Clinton had paid off Paula Jones and Monica and his lawyers had sealed the deal with a non-disclosure agreement, you would have supported that agreement?
:rofl:

[TonyR]

In previous elections, these fringe candidates have never come close to becoming serious contenders. They run to push the ideological debate further to the right or left and to make a name for themselves in the process. If they are lucky, they end up with some notoriety, a new national fundraising base, and perhaps a show on cable TV. These types of fringe candidates don’t truly prepare for the absurdities and difficulties of a Presidential campaign because in their heart of hearts they never believed they would make it very far.

Herman Cain has made it, and the result is akin to a dog catching a car.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/10/the-fringe-frontrunner.html

:rofl:

[Rohirrim]

In previous elections, these fringe candidates have never come close to becoming serious contenders. They run to push the ideological debate further to the right or left and to make a name for themselves in the process. If they are lucky, they end up with some notoriety, a new national fundraising base, and perhaps a show on cable TV. These types of fringe candidates don’t truly prepare for the absurdities and difficulties of a Presidential campaign because in their heart of hearts they never believed they would make it very far.

Herman Cain has made it, and the result is akin to a dog catching a car.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/10/the-fringe-frontrunner.html

:rofl:

Hilarious! So true.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/qq3IfVcKtUKNz2tdURh8EQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTg2O3E9ODU7dz0xMzA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/042cc0aba3585a18fd0e6a7067009995.jpg (http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-third-worker-says-harassed-cain-195748722.html) Third worker claims harassment by Cain (http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-third-worker-says-harassed-cain-195748722.html)

A third former employee says she considered filing a workplace complaint over what she considered aggressive and unwanted behavior by Herman Cain when she worked for the presidential candidate in the 1990s. She says the behavior included a private invitation to his corporate apartment.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Democrats have very short memories remember Slick Willie’s many sexual misconduct cases? Clinton makes Cain look like a celibate Monk.

Bill Clinton's long history of sexual violence against women



This should read "The GOP's Long History of Fishing Expeditions That Led to Dry Holes" (no pun intended.)

[Rohirrim]

I guess the righties can stop blaming the "librul media" for this thing. It seems that the Perry campaign is behind it.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardminiter/2011/11/02/herman-cain-sexual-harassment-leak/

[Tombstone RJ]

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/qq3If***tUKNz2tdURh8EQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTg2O3E9ODU7dz0xMzA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/042cc0aba3585a18fd0e6a7067009995.jpg (http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-third-worker-says-harassed-cain-195748722.html) Third worker claims harassment by Cain (http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-third-worker-says-harassed-cain-195748722.html)

A third former employee says she considered filing a workplace complaint over what she considered aggressive and unwanted behavior by Herman Cain when she worked for the presidential candidate in the 1990s. She says the behavior included a private invitation to his corporate apartment.

I wonder why she's just now coming out with this crap. Could it be because some libby left Obama team is digging this smear campaign up?

[TonyR]

Could it be because some libby left Obama team is digging this smear campaign up?

If you'd use your head and think for a change you'd figure out how stupid this "reasoning" of yours is. Team Obama would love for Cain to win the nomination. They'd destroy him in the election. The GOP, on the other hand, realizes what a poor candidate Cain is and wants nothing to do with him getting the nod. So the GOP, and all of the GOP candidates, have far more motivation to derail Cain than Obama and the evil liberals. As mock would have said, buy a vowel.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I wonder why she's just now coming out with this crap. Could it be because some libby left Obama team is digging this smear campaign up?

No surprise you would jump to that conclusion.

In the meantime, if Cain is innocent, then why all that hush money?

[Spider]

I wonder why she's just now coming out with this crap. Could it be because some libby left Obama team is digging this smear campaign up?

your nuttier then a fricken fruit cake

[pricejj]

Their charges were bunk.

News seems to travel slowly to the cave you inhabit - one wonders if you've even heard the word that the Clintons were exonerated in the GOP's Whitewater fishing expedition?

Wow. It must suck to be you. Keep up your hate train, but count me out.

[W*GS]

I wonder why she's just now coming out with this crap. Could it be because some libby left Obama team is digging this smear campaign up?

It's more likely to be the work of the Perry campaign.

[Mile High Mojoe]

This should read "The GOP's Long History of Fishing Expeditions That Led to Dry Holes" (no pun intended.)

And the Cain hit job isn't a dry hole? Clinton has a long and illustrious career as a serial sexual predator the sure number of cases brought against him prove it. He was low life scum that thought he could get away with whatever he wanted and did.

[Spider]

And the Cain hit job isn't a dry hole? Clinton has a long and illustrious career as a serial sexual predator the sure number of cases brought against him prove it. He was low life scum that thought he could get away with whatever he wanted and did.

well then using this guideline , Ben Rothlissburger is one hellva guy .............

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

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[Mile High Mojoe]

A dress with some semen on it said otherwise.

[bowtown]

I'm confused what the argument is about here. Is it that Cain should be preemptively impeached? If so, I agree with that.

[Requiem]

Godfather's Pizza man never stood a chance.

[Bronco Yoda]

Cain doesn't even know how to really explain the economic plan that the Billionaires handed him to read. Who would have thunk it. He does seem personable enough. I guess thats a fantastic reason to hire him......yes?

I wouldn't doubt Perry was up to digging up Cain's dirt. I get the same really bad vibes from this guy as I did from Edwards. Not very good people.

[DBruleU]

Cain doesn't even know how to really explain the economic plan that the Billionaires handed him to read. Who would have thunk it. He does seem personable enough. I guess thats a fantastic reason to hire him......yes?

I wouldn't doubt Perry was up to digging up Cain's dirt. I get the same really bad vibes from this guy as I did from Edwards. Not very good people.

Got the current POTUS elected.

[DBruleU]

National Poll: Cain 26%, Romney 23%, Gingrich 14%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/election_2012_republican_presidential_primary

Georgia businessman Herman Cain, who continues to battle past allegations of sexual harassment, draws the most support nationally for the Republican nomination.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely GOP Primary voters shows Cain with 26% of the vote over former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney’s 23%. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich draws 14% support, with no other GOP contender reaching double-digits. Thirteen percent (13%) of GOP voters are undecided at this time. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

[TonyR]

[I]t really sickens me that Cain has played the race card by asserting that the harassment story occurred because he is black. I hate it when the Left plays the race card, and I hate it when the right does. No, the story didn't come out because he is black; the story came out because ANY candidate for president who had multiple allegations of harassment against him would eventually need to face the story because somebody in the media would report it.

http://spectator.org/blog/2011/11/02/cain-in-trouble/

[TonyR]

I don’t even care at this point whether the [sexual harassment] charges are accurate; even if we assume that they are not, Cain’s habit of shifting his story in addressing the accusations, his campaign’s treatment of reporters asking questions about the charges, and now, the wild claims that other campaigns are behind the attacks, offered with little supporting evidence, show the Cain campaign in a very bad light, and show that the candidate himself is confused, desperate, and entirely on the defensive. No one should have any confidence whatsoever in Cain’s ability to survive a fall election campaign against a battle-hardened Obama team ...

http://www.chequerboard.org/2011/11/no-he-caint/

[Garcia Bronco]

the GOP does not have a candidate that can win.

[BroncoInferno]

the GOP does not have a candidate that can win.

It looks that way. If Cain actually got the nomination, Obama would win by FDR proportions. Romney seems to have the best shot, but he is not a very inspiring guy. Lots of weaknesses there for a battle hardened Obama team to exploit.

[Rohirrim]

the GOP does not have a candidate that can win.

I think Huntsman would be the toughest candidate for Obama to go up against in a general election. Cain or Romney would be like tossing out a bowl of Purina Obama Chow. ;D

[barryr]

If Cain was a democrat, most of the media would be pulling a Clinton and suppressing this story the best they could or going on attacks of the accusers. And if that didn't work, then try to to dig up dirt on republicans for similar actions. But since Cain is a black republican, he shouldn't expect much help from any civil rights groups since they only worry about democrats. Liberals are only appalled when the race card is used when it is applied to them.

[Spider]

If Cain was a democrat, most of the media would be pulling a Clinton and suppressing this story the best they could or going on attacks of the accusers. And if that didn't work, then try to to dig up dirt on republicans for similar actions. But since Cain is a black republican, he shouldn't expect much help from any civil rights groups since they only worry about democrats. Liberals are only appalled when the race card is used when it is applied to them.

somewhere there is a village missing their idiot ......... For the love of Chickenfried steak , go home you turd

[bowtown]

If Cain was a democrat, most of the media would be pulling a Clinton and suppressing this story the best they could or going on attacks of the accusers. And if that didn't work, then try to to dig up dirt on republicans for similar actions. But since Cain is a black republican, he shouldn't expect much help from any civil rights groups since they only worry about democrats. Liberals are only appalled when the race card is used when it is applied to them.

If Cain was a Democrat, he never would have even made it this far. He would have already been crushed by a tidal wave of feigned rightard outrage.

[barryr]

If Cain was a Democrat, he never would have even made it this far. He would have already been crushed by a tidal wave of feigned rightard outrage.

Oh, so like what happened to Obama when he didn't become president? Thanks for making sense :thumbs:

[bowtown]

Oh, so like what happened to Obama when he didn't become president? Thanks for making sense :thumbs:

I must have missed the part where Obama settled sexual harassment charges with at least two different employees, and then lied about it, and had at least one more accuser ready to step forward. When did that happen?

[Rohirrim]

If Cain was a democrat, most of the media would be pulling a Clinton and suppressing this story the best they could or going on attacks of the accusers. And if that didn't work, then try to to dig up dirt on republicans for similar actions. But since Cain is a black republican, he shouldn't expect much help from any civil rights groups since they only worry about democrats. Liberals are only appalled when the race card is used when it is applied to them.

You're either very young or very stupid. The media tore into Clinton like a pack of pit bulls on a pork chop. Newt would throw them a scrap a week and they'd go rabid on it. What is the deal with the Right always trying to rewrite history to make themselves out to be some kind of victims?

[Spider]

I must have missed the part where Obama settled sexual harassment charges with at least two different employees, and then lied about it, and had at least one more accuser ready to step forward. When did that happen?

it was covered up by the Liberul media dont ya know :rofl: ..........

[DenverBrit]

If Cain was a democrat, most of the media would be pulling a Clinton and suppressing this story the best they could or going on attacks of the accusers. And if that didn't work, then try to to dig up dirt on republicans for similar actions. But since Cain is a black republican, he shouldn't expect much help from any civil rights groups since they only worry about democrats. Liberals are only appalled when the race card is used when it is applied to them.

You don't read much, do you.

Clinton's sexual escapades were front page news and didn't go away until after the $40 million witch hunt.

Cain got the sexual harassment and lying down before even getting the nomination.
As for the race card, you really are an idiot. What do you think the tea party and birthers were doing?

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

Its been 5 days. What have we found out about this case?

[Rohirrim]

Its been 5 days. What have we found out about this case?

Uhh, that non-disclosure agreements prepared by lawyers are difficult to break?

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

Uhh, that non-disclosure agreements prepared by lawyers are difficult to break?

Soooooooo. You don't know anything. Hmmmmmmmm. What does that say? Hmmmmmm.

[Rohirrim]

Soooooooo. You don't know anything. Hmmmmmmmm. What does that say? Hmmmmmm.

It says that if Cain wanted to clear this up, he'd waive the agreement so he could bring these women out into the open and confront their charges?

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

It says that if Cain wanted to clear this up, he'd waive the agreement so he could bring these women out into the open and confront their charges?

Clear what up, exactly?

[Rohirrim]

Clear what up, exactly?

When one woman accuses you of sexual harassment it's he said, she said.

When two accuse you, it's an indictment.

When three accuse you, it's a done deal.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

When one woman accuses you of sexual harassment it's he said, she said.

When two accuse you, it's an indictment.

When three accuse you, it's a done deal.

Prove it.

[TonyR]

Prove it.

Cain is done. The sooner you accept it the better. Even your buddy epicfail has bailed on him. Time to move on.

[bowtown]

Herman Cain... the Global Warming of the Republican Primaries.

[Rohirrim]

Prove it.

Uhh He paid them off?

How many of these quizzes do I need to pass?

[TonyR]

The media treats sexual harassment cases similarly to the way they treat stories about secret mistresses. After all, it’s the sex that sells the story, right? ... But sexual harassment isn’t the same as infidelity. Sexual harassment, at the end of the day, is about the abuse of power. What’s more, it’s about a particularly denigrating and malicious abuse of power. I would go so far as to say that if someone has a pattern of perpetrating sexual harassment, he is the last person you want in power over others – and you should vote accordingly.

http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/blog/2011/11/03/herman-cain-bill-clinton-and-the-myth-of-he-saidshe-said/

[Bronco Yoda]

You're either very young or very stupid. The media tore into Clinton like a pack of pit bulls on a pork chop. Newt would throw them a scrap a week and they'd go rabid on it. What is the deal with the Right always trying to rewrite history to make themselves out to be some kind of victims?

I doubt Barry was even old enough to know the Clinton years.

[Popcorn Sutton]

If Cain was a democrat, most of the media would be pulling a Clinton and suppressing this story the best they could or going on attacks of the accusers. And if that didn't work, then try to to dig up dirt on republicans for similar actions. But since Cain is a black republican, he shouldn't expect much help from any civil rights groups since they only worry about democrats. Liberals are only appalled when the race card is used when it is applied to them.

http://cbsseattle.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/rep-weiner.jpg?w=300g

[Popcorn Sutton]

Its been 5 days. What have we found out about this case?

That Cain still hasn't offered up to have the accusers come forth and share their stories?

[Drek]

the GOP does not have a candidate that can win.

Jon Huntsman would. Obama would need a full on economic turn around and a very strong campaign to beat Huntsman, who would come across as a true centrist with experience running a state economy where he produced significant economic growth. Not to mention being the only candidate with the foreign policy chops to really combat Obama, actually provided to him by Obama making him the ambassador to China.

I mean really, any kind of real mobilization behind Huntsman and the election is a landslide GOP victory if Obama doesn't pull an economic miracle out of his ass or Iran starts firing off nukes. But the GOP is so wound up over if you believe in evolution and global warming that Huntsman is immediately a non-contender.

[barryr]

http://cbsseattle.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/rep-weiner.jpg?w=300g

Ah, but with youtube and the internet, the liberals are having more troubles hiding stories. Which is why they hate Fox and have wanted limits on the internet though quickly saw that was a loser position. Weiner made it impossible to hide what he had done.

[BroncoInferno]

Ah, but with youtube and the internet, the liberals are having more troubles hiding stories. Which is why they hate Fox and have wanted limits on the internet though quickly saw that was a loser position. Weiner made it impossible to hide what he had done.

Goddamn, you are stupid.

[Popcorn Sutton]

Ah, but with youtube and the internet, the liberals are having more troubles hiding stories. Which is why they hate Fox and have wanted limits on the internet though quickly saw that was a loser position. Weiner made it impossible to hide what he had done.

You are trying way too hard here. Weiner was front page, headline, lead story news on every outlet in the country. Clinton, same thing. Sure, there are a lot of liberal members of the media and overwhelmingly a liberal bias but a scandal makes for good news, period. They are all in it to make money and attract viewers.

[barryr]

Goddamn, you are stupid.

Says someone who can only offer that as a comeback. Surprised a genius like you can actually type a sentence.

[BroncoInferno]

Says someone who can only offer that as a comeback. Surprised a genius like you can actually type a sentence.

What have you offered other than retarded liberal straw-men with no basis in reality? You haven't presented one fact to refute.

[DenverBrit]

Says someone who can only offer that as a comeback. Surprised a genius like you can actually type a sentence.

No, he's right. You really are stupid.

[barryr]

You are trying way too hard here. Weiner was front page, headline, lead story news on every outlet in the country. Clinton, same thing. Sure, there are a lot of liberal members of the media and overwhelmingly a liberal bias but a scandal makes for good news, period. They are all in it to make money and attract viewers.

At least you admit the bias, but the bias existed 20 years ago too when there was no internet. Clinton only made front page when someone other than the established liberal media published the story and then when out, and only then, did they rush to try to become famous by reporting the story. It is a known fact Newsweek, among others, knew about the story for awhile but decided not to report it.

[Spider]

Says someone who can only offer that as a comeback. Surprised a genius like you can actually type a sentence.

he is right , you are stupid ....... you have my pity

[DenverBrit]

Hypocrisy will get you extra coverage.

For instance: Homophobic and anti gay politicians and activists who get caught with young boys or male hookers.

They are mostly right wing holier-than-thou hypocrites who deserve the attention.

Top 10 Anti-Gay Activists Caught Being Gay
http://www.ranker.com/list/top-10-anti-gay-activists-caught-being-gay/joanne

[Rohirrim]

Some people don't understand that Maureen Dowd and the NY Times did more to bring down Al Gore than anybody else, including Fox News.

[Spider]

Some people don't understand that Maureen Dowd and the NY Times did more to bring down Al Gore than anybody else, including Fox News.

;D that they didowd was ruthless , she didnt want Gore to be president even if it meant a rep in office ,As for barry... to keep posting the stuff that he does , tells me the boy has a serious deficiency the thinking or memory dept. All the bedwetters down here try and rewrite history to fit thier dogma , but barry is flat out off his rocker ....

[barryr]

The liberals tend to go hard after democrats only when they can see they do more harm than good for "the cause" then they go after them. But if that democrat is still useful, deflection and defend to the end.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Ironic how we clamor for more qualified and transcendent candidates to vote for and yet run them through a wringer mercilessly. Whether you like Cain or not, the result of rabid, slanted, and malicious media coverage is that scores of qualified and well intentioned citizens are not running for office and America's worse for it.

[Rohirrim]

Ironic how we clamor for more qualified and transcendent candidates to vote for and yet run them through a wringer mercilessly. Whether you like Cain or not, the result of rabid, slanted, and malicious media coverage is that scores of qualified and well intentioned citizens are not running for office and America's worse for it.

That's always been true. Read about the election of 1800 between Jefferson and Adams. It makes our modern elections look like a slap fight.

[Rohirrim]

;D that they didowd was ruthless , she didnt want Gore to be president even if it meant a rep in office ,As for barry... to keep posting the stuff that he does , tells me the boy has a serious deficiency the thinking or memory dept. All the bedwetters down here try and rewrite history to fit thier dogma , but barry is flat out off his rocker ....

Remember MSNBC ripping Hillary apart during the primaries that Obama won? And now Chris Matthews comes on and says how much he likes her. The hypocrisy stinks to heaven.

[barryr]

Yes, the outrage for anyone to use the race card. Oh, here is a democrat using it right now and I am sure liberals will be up in arms over the use of it here too. Sure. Cain is a republican, therefore according to liberals, race does not apply since he isn't "black enough" in their racist eyes.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Rep. Laura Richardson charged Friday the House Ethics Committee has singled her out for scrutiny because she's African-American.

Richardson, D-Calif., effectively announced the committee's investigation before the panel revealed it, accusing fellow lawmakers of ignoring wrongdoing by others in order to focus on her.

Richardson also said she would "explore the issue of whether the Ethics Committee has engaged in discriminatory conduct in pursuing two investigations against me while simultaneously failing to apply the same standards to, or take the same actions against, other members - of whom the overwhelming majority are white males."


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_RICHARDSON_ETHICS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-11-04-12-33-52

[Tombstone RJ]

Remember MSNBC ripping Hillary apart during the primaries that Obama won? And now Chris Matthews comes on and says how much he likes her. The hypocrisy stinks to heaven.

The media was incredibly biased towards Obama and msnbc was the leading culprit in the campaign to destroy Clinton and promote BO. Do you remember when Keith Olberman went all ballistic on Hillary and made a complete ass out of himself on TV?

It was after this abusive tirade that I quit watching msnbc totally and pretty much stuck with Fox News because at the very least, Fox News was still following the Clinton campaign and giving her equal coverage.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

Uhh He paid them off?

How many of these quizzes do I need to pass?

No proof!?! I'm shocked. Shocked!

[DenverBrit]

No proof!?! I'm shocked. Shocked!

And if it comes, is Cain still your man??

[Mile High Mojoe]

Obsess much? 90 stories by Politico in 5 days about Cain, I wonder if they have a bias or not? They're doing their very best to do another beat down on a Conservative maybe? Hmmmm....not at all.

Obama has more scandals attached to him at the hip than any other President in American history and where's Politico and the rest of the mainstream media's outrage or reporting on them? Crickets....

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/politico-publishes-90-stories-cain-scandal

[epicSocialism4tw]

Apparently one of the women has decided to keep her story hidden.

This thing is starting to seem sketchy.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

And if it comes, is Cain still your man??

5 days later. Media Begging of the women to come out. On the other hand there are audio tapes of Clinton. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Ironic how we clamor for more qualified and transcendent candidates to vote for and yet run them through a wringer mercilessly. Whether you like Cain or not, the result of rabid, slanted, and malicious media coverage is that scores of qualified and well intentioned citizens are not running for office and America's worse for it.

The establishment won't have Cain or any other guy who doesn't play by their rules.

Cain, Ron Paul, Kusinich, Perot...if you're not bought and paid for long ago, you don't get to reach for the brass ring.

[barryr]

Heck, the liberal media did not want to report about John Edwards either, until they could see he did more damage to the party, so time to go after him. Again, this is game that is played by the liberal media. "Werll, we go hard after democrats too." Sure, when they are deemed expendable and no longer useful, then they do. And only then. But they go after anyone else, no matter the evidence, strong or weak.

Let's be real here. If Cain was still sitting in the 5% range as he once was, this never would have come out. But suddenly this story gets put out there now that Cain rose in the polls. Coincidence? Please. Sure, these women's "horrifying nightmare" and ability to cope with it just got worse as Cain's poll numbers got higher, but they managed just fine when he was sitting below 10. Only idiots buy this story.

[DenverBrit]

5 days later. Media Begging of the women to come out. On the other hand there are audio tapes of Clinton. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.


Soooooo, if the story is true, Cain is still your man??

[Requiem]

Cain is the candidate for the wool over the eyes, uninformed Godfathers Pizza eatin' 'merican!

[DenverBrit]

Heck, the liberal media did not want to report about John Edwards either, until they could see he did more damage to the party, so time to go after him. Again, this is game that is played by the liberal media. "Werll, we go hard after democrats too." Sure, when they are deemed expendable and no longer useful, then they do. And only then. But they go after anyone else, no matter the evidence, strong or weak.

Let's be real here. If Cain was still sitting in the 5% range as he once was, this never would have come out. But suddenly this story gets put out there now that Cain rose in the polls. Coincidence? Please. Sure, these women's "horrifying nightmare" and ability to cope with it just got worse as Cain's poll numbers got higher, but they managed just fine when he was sitting below 10. Only idiots buy this story.

Good grief, the stupidity is strong with this one. 8')

On Wednesday, Cain's top aide accused Perry's campaign of being behind the release of the stories.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/11/03/cain-accusers-both-work-in-government-related-jobs/#ixzz1cqo405OL

[Rohirrim]

I guess Cain thought he could run for president and this wouldn't come out. Ha!

[Play2win]

I guess Cain thought he could run for president and this wouldn't come out. Ha!

Actually, it seem much more well thought out than some other Repubican ideals.

[DenverBrit]

Is this story the beginning of the end for Cain's run at the WH?

Or just another plot by fellow Conservatives to discredit him?



Oklahoma pollster confirms he witnessed incident involving Cain
Posted by
CNN Chief Political Analyst Gloria Borger

Washington (CNN) - Oklahoma Republican political consultant Chris Wilson confirmed to CNN that he witnessed Herman Cain demonstrate inappropriate conduct toward a female employee while he led the National Restaurant Association. Wilson first made this charge Wednesday in an interview with KTOK, an Oklahoma radio station.

In that interview, Wilson-who is doing polling for a political action committee supporting Texas Governor Rick Perry's campaign but is independent of it–described an incident with Cain and a female employee.

"This occurred at a restaurant in Crystal City (Virginia) and everybody was aware of it," said Wilson, who was a consultant for the organization at the time, in the KTOK interview. "It was only a matter of time because so many people were aware of what took place, so many people were aware of her situation, the fact she left-everybody knew with the campaign that this would eventually come up."

Wilson would not elaborate beyond his comments to the radio station. He has dismissed any notion that he commented on this for political reasons. He told CNN "I had nothing to do with leaking this in any way, and I've never discussed or shared this story with any of my clients – period."

In his description of the event to the radio station KTOK, Wilson said "I was the pollster at the National Restaurant Association when Herman Cain was head of it, and I was around a couple of times when this happened and anyone who was involved with the NRA at the time, knew that this was going to come up."

On the radio, he predicted "if she (the alleged victim) comes out and talks about it, like I said, it'll probably be the end of his campaign"
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[Arkie]

Is this story the beginning of the end for Cain's run at the WH?

Or just another plot by fellow Conservatives to discredit him?



Both. I think Perry's campaign sat on the secret until the right time.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Is this story the beginning of the end for Cain's run at the WH?

Or just another plot by fellow Conservatives to discredit him?


Oklahoma pollster confirms he witnessed incident involving Cain
Posted by
CNN Chief Political Analyst Gloria Borger

Washington (CNN) - Oklahoma Republican political consultant Chris Wilson confirmed to CNN that he witnessed Herman Cain demonstrate inappropriate conduct toward a female employee while he led the National Restaurant Association. Wilson first made this charge Wednesday in an interview with KTOK, an Oklahoma radio station.

In that interview, Wilson-who is doing polling for a political action committee supporting Texas Governor Rick Perry's campaign but is independent of it–described an incident with Cain and a female employee.

"This occurred at a restaurant in Crystal City (Virginia) and everybody was aware of it," said Wilson, who was a consultant for the organization at the time, in the KTOK interview. "It was only a matter of time because so many people were aware of what took place, so many people were aware of her situation, the fact she left-everybody knew with the campaign that this would eventually come up."

Wilson would not elaborate beyond his comments to the radio station. He has dismissed any notion that he commented on this for political reasons. He told CNN "I had nothing to do with leaking this in any way, and I've never discussed or shared this story with any of my clients – period."

In his description of the event to the radio station KTOK, Wilson said "I was the pollster at the National Restaurant Association when Herman Cain was head of it, and I was around a couple of times when this happened and anyone who was involved with the NRA at the time, knew that this was going to come up."

On the radio, he predicted "if she (the alleged victim) comes out and talks about it, like I said, it'll probably be the end of his campaign"

Okay...does anyone know what has actually happened with any of these?

Its all hearsay with anonymous witnesses who don't want to come forward.

[Arkie]

The establishment won't have Cain or any other guy who doesn't play by their rules.

Cain, Ron Paul, Kusinich, Perot...if you're not bought and paid for long ago, you don't get to reach for the brass ring.

Cain will play by their rules. He had a hand in making them.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Cain will play by their rules. He had a hand in making them.

They're afraid to death of him.

[TonyR]

Is this story the beginning of the end for Cain's run at the WH?

He was never a serious candidate to begin with.

[BroncoInferno]

They're afraid to death of him.

Please. If Cain actually wins the nomination, Obama will win the election by FDR proprtions. He's a joke.

[epicSocialism4tw]

He was never a serious candidate to begin with.

LOL

Yeah, he's only leading polling for the republican presidential candidacy.

[DenverBrit]

Okay...does anyone know what has actually happened with any of these?

Its all hearsay with anonymous witnesses who don't want to come forward.

There are five figure payments made to two women on condition they never talk about the incidents involving Cain.

Until those confidentiality agreements are set aside, we won't know exactly what happened.

I suspect, those will be set aside and the full story released. In the meantime, his GOP 'opponents' are loving it.

[DenverBrit]

LOL

Yeah, he's only leading polling for the republican presidential candidacy.

Which only shows how ****ed up politics are right now.

[epicSocialism4tw]

There are five figure payments made to two women on condition they never talk about the incidents involving Cain.

Until those confidentiality agreements are set aside, we won't know exactly what happened.

I suspect, those will be set aside and the full story released. In the meantime, his GOP 'opponents' are loving it.

Apparently one of the former NRA chairs said that those payouts are common in severance packages of fired employees.

Its odd that this has been blown up so huge without any substance to the accusations at this point.

Politico has already run 90+ stories on it, not one of them having anything but anonymous sources and hearsay.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Which only shows how ****ed up politics are right now.

It shows you that people who vote in the republican party are fed up with establishment politicians.

We can only hope that the other party wakes up to that too.

[Popcorn Sutton]

Cain will play by their rules. He had a hand in making them.

Exactly.

[Popcorn Sutton]

Cain is a former lobbyist and Fed banker....he may not be "establishment" but he certainly is chummy with the establishment.

[Popcorn Sutton]

Looks like he'll fit right in:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/herman-cain-lavish-spending-national-restaurant-association-drew-160036877.html

[Popcorn Sutton]

Okay...does anyone know what has actually happened with any of these?

Its all hearsay with anonymous witnesses who don't want to come forward.

They aren't anonymous witnesses!! Good lord! They were paid to keep their mouths shut!

[epicSocialism4tw]

They aren't anonymous witnesses!! Good lord! They were paid to keep their mouths shut!

So you're content with anonymous accusations and hearsay?

[Popcorn Sutton]

So you're content with anonymous accusations and hearsay?


What part of they were paid to keep their mouths shut do you not get? What makes you so sure this didn't happen? The NRA confirms the settlements, Cain admits the settlements. If there is nothing to hide and these claims are baseless then ask the NRA to release the nondisclosure and let the woman speak. It's that simple. What do they have to hide?

Bennett has requested that the association free his client, the first woman, from her nondisclosure agreement and let her speak. Bennett suggested that his client would not delve deeply into details, but would push back against the claims by Cain in recent days that her charges were "baseless." The attorney has requested an answer by this afternoon from the association about whether his client will be allowed to issue a statement.

POLITICO reported yesterday that Bennett's client received a payout of about $45,000 in signing the settlement.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67627.html#ixzz1crclRAvW

[Popcorn Sutton]

His flip flopping isn't helping matters:

He acknowledged Monday night that there was a settlement, contradicting a statement earlier in the day in which he said he had no knowledge of a settlement.

[epicSocialism4tw]

What part of they were paid to keep their mouths shut do you not get? What makes you so sure this didn't happen? The NRA confirms the settlements, Cain admits the settlements. If there is nothing to hide and these claims are baseless then ask the NRA to release the nondisclosure and let the woman speak. It's that simple. What do they have to hide?

Nobody knows what happened. Period.

Anonymous accusations of unclear issues.

[Popcorn Sutton]

Nobody knows what happened. Period.

Anonymous accusations of unclear issues.


The only reason it is staying anonymous is Cain and the NRA haven't lifted the nondisclosure they paid for. Why is that?

Cain is not good for the GOP. He flip flops on statements in the same day, his tax plan is a disaster in the making, he refers to Uzbekistan and Uz-beki-beki-stan-stan, and he is a former Fed banker and lobbyist who spent like a king when he was the head of the NRA.

[Popcorn Sutton]

BTW, Mr. Cain, let me help you out a bit.

China developed Nuclear weapons in the sixties.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Cain is not good for the GOP. He flip flops on statements in the same day, his tax plan is a disaster in the making, he refers to Uzbekistan and Uz-beki-beki-stan-stan, and he is a former Fed banker and lobbyist who spent like a king when he was the head of the NRA.

Those are separate from the anonymous harrassment accusations.

Just because you dont agree with those things doesn't make those accusations any more clear.

[Popcorn Sutton]

If Herman Cain was Barack Obama, you'd be shouting from the mountain tops.

It's pretty simple. If the investigation proved the allegations were "baseless" then let the woman speak. Until they do so, it doesn't look good.

[Popcorn Sutton]

Those are separate from the anonymous harrassment accusations.

Just because you dont agree with those things doesn't make those accusations any more clear.

BTW, what is it with you cutting out the first part of my statement that addresses the anonymous accusations?

The only reason it remains anonymous is the NRA and Herman Cain have decided not to lift the nondisclosure. Her attorney has asked them to lift it and they chose not to. Looks bad.

[epicSocialism4tw]

BTW, what is it with you cutting out the first part of my statement that addresses the anonymous accusations?

The only reason it remains anonymous is the NRA and Herman Cain have decided not to lift the nondisclosure. Her attorney has asked them to lift it and they chose not to. Looks bad.

Why would they remove their legal protection?

[DenverBrit]

BTW, what is it with you cutting out the first part of my statement that addresses the anonymous accusations?

The only reason it remains anonymous is the NRA and Herman Cain have decided not to lift the nondisclosure. Her attorney has asked them to lift it and they chose not to. Looks bad.

By acknowledging the confidentiality agreements kept in place by Cain and the NRA, Drama wouldn't be able to harp on endlessly about 'anonymous accusations'.

The NRA should lift the gag and let the story be told.

[DenverBrit]

Why would they remove their legal protection?

LOL

What legal protection??

[Popcorn Sutton]

Why would they remove their legal protection?

You claim she is anonymous....but.....the only problem is she wants to speak.

So, she's not anonymous, she's bound by a nondisclosure. Two different things.

If you are OK with this then good for you. In my opinion, if they deny the request to lift the nondisclosure then they have something to hide.

[Popcorn Sutton]

One woman decides to maintain her privacy, protect her family and not become another Anita Hill and Epic immediately says it sounds fishy.

Another woman wants to speak and has asked to lift the NDA so she can tell her side of the story. The request has fallen on deaf ears. Yet Epic thinks this sounds perfectly normal.

Very honest way of evaluating things.

Look, if there was no settlements paid and these women were just making anonymous claims, I'd call bull****. That's not what is happening here.

[Rohirrim]

So you're content with anonymous accusations and hearsay?

Do you ever get a glimpse of how juvenile you sound?

[Popcorn Sutton]

This will very soon become one of many threads he will conveniently stop posting in.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Do you ever get a glimpse of how juvenile you sound?

It must make you appear all the more juvenile since you follow me around here like a whipped puppy. ^5

[epicSocialism4tw]

This will very soon become one of many threads he will conveniently stop posting in.

You don't think I post here enough? Ha!

[Rohirrim]

It must make you appear all the more juvenile since you follow me around here like a whipped puppy. ^5

I was here before you showed up and I'll still be here when you're gone.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I was here before you showed up and I'll still be here when you're gone.

Well, I'm a good bit younger than you.

[W*GS]

Well, I'm a good bit younger than you.

Indeed.

http://hahnemannkiaawaz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Crying-baby3.jpg

[Requiem]

Well, I'm a good bit younger than you.

Young people die all the time.

[TonyR]

The real lies here are the claims of millions of frivolous suits in which jurors award liars with pots of money and television contracts. The legal standard for proving a hostile work environment is high and usually requires showing a pattern of bad behavior. If anything, experts say that the current system under-punishes as opposed to over-punishes, and that most victims of sexual harassment on the job will never come forward at all...[T]o claim that they must be false because all women lie and all harassers are just joking is a terrifying proposition. Even more than the outright antagonism of so many conservative pundits, what’s worrying to me is the indifference of so many Republican voters: New poll results show that 70 percent of Republicans say the sexual harassment scandal makes no difference in their vote. It’s no longer just a Republican war on women. It’s a war on the idea that any woman might ever tell the truth.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2011/11/herman_cain_s_conservative_defenders_are_going_tot ally_overboard.single.html

[DBruleU]

The real lies here are the claims of millions of frivolous suits in which jurors award liars with pots of money and television contracts. The legal standard for proving a hostile work environment is high and usually requires showing a pattern of bad behavior. If anything, experts say that the current system under-punishes as opposed to over-punishes, and that most victims of sexual harassment on the job will never come forward at all...[T]o claim that they must be false because all women lie and all harassers are just joking is a terrifying proposition. Even more than the outright antagonism of so many conservative pundits, what’s worrying to me is the indifference of so many Republican voters: New poll results show that 70 percent of Republicans say the sexual harassment scandal makes no difference in their vote. It’s no longer just a Republican war on women. It’s a war on the idea that any woman might ever tell the truth.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2011/11/herman_cain_s_conservative_defenders_are_going_tot ally_overboard.single.html

Good. The liberal smear machine isn't working. Too bad.

[Smiling Assassin27]

On the one hand, I agree. The media has once again proven to be despicable and two faced on this issue. But to say their act isn't working might not be entirely true. What this 24 hour coverage does is place a cap on how high Cain can go, IMO. Since his favorability rating is going down, he may top out at 25-27% in primary polls, whereas without this scorched earth policy of the media, he could easily continue to be a legitimate rival for romney.

[DBruleU]

On the one hand, I agree. The media has once again proven to be despicable and two faced on this issue. But to say their act isn't working might not be entirely true. What this 24 hour coverage does is place a cap on how high Cain can go, IMO. Since his favorability rating is going down, he may top out at 25-27% in primary polls, whereas without this scorched earth policy of the media, he could easily continue to be a legitimate rival for romney.

Possibly. I agree he will take a hit in some regard, but probably not as much as they were hoping.

But one thing I do know is this - In my workplace alone, he has picked up support BECAUSE of these allegations and smear tactics. One disenchanted Obama voter (albeit they admit they were duped and where previously Republican primarily) has 100% backed Cain and donated this weekend because as he said, "He is tired of this type of dirty politics."

[Smiling Assassin27]

Possibly. I agree he will take a hit in some regard, but probably not as much as they were hoping.

But one thing I do know is this - In my workplace alone, he has picked up support BECAUSE of these allegations and smear tactics. One disenchanted Obama voter (albeit they admit they were duped and where previously Republican primarily) has 100% backed Cain and donated this weekend because as he said, "He is tired of this type of dirty politics."

Yeah, Cain is still pulling cash in mass quantities.

[TonyR]

The media has once again proven to be despicable and two faced on this issue.

How so? You're not trying to compare the Cain situation with the Clinton situation, are you?

[Smiling Assassin27]

How so? You're not trying to compare the Cain situation with the Clinton situation, are you?

It depends on which Clinton situation you're speaking of, but there's no need to focus on Clinton, as many other non-Republican sex scandals have been comparatively tame in terms of media coverage. Are you saying they are nothing alike?

[Drek]

Good. The liberal smear machine isn't working. Too bad.

Why do you assume its a "liberal" smear machine? Cain himself believes its coming from Rick Perry.

[Drek]

It depends on which Clinton situation you're speaking of, but there's no need to focus on Clinton, as many other non-Republican sex scandals have been comparatively tame in terms of media coverage. Are you saying they are nothing alike?

Its all about how red the meat is. The two different politicians from New York, both dems I believe, with recent sex scandals were the talk of mainstream media for quite some time. One for hiring a high end prostitute, the other for online photos he was sending out trying to bag some poon (while married).

They were off-beat enough to make for sensational headlines so they led and led often. Clinton's issues during his primary run came when he was a nobody dark horse candidate and had very little substantiation. Clinton also snuffed the one accusation out quickly with a capable denial and nothing followed.

In Cain's case this broke when he was the talk of the GOP air waves and he then fed it a steady diet by changing his story. Now its getting more traction as its been kept alive long enough for others to jump on-board.

The media is not liberally biased, they're ratings biased. If you bring ratings you're their boy, no matter what context they need to sell it in. The only stations that ignore ratings in favor of an agenda are Fox News and MSNBC, who aren't really news stations at all.

[Rohirrim]

Man! That Herman is a party animal:

Herman Cain faced a new claim of sexually inappropriate behavior Monday as a Chicago woman told reporters the former head of the National Restaurant Association groped her after a dinner together in 1997.
Sharon Bialek, who worked at the restaurant group's education foundation until shortly before the alleged groping incident, said Cain unexpectedly put his hand on her leg beneath her skirt "toward my genitals." She also said he pushed her head toward his crotch.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/07/politics/cain-allegations/index.html?eref=igoogledmn_topstories

[bowtown]

Man! That Herman is a party animal:

Herman Cain faced a new claim of sexually inappropriate behavior Monday as a Chicago woman told reporters the former head of the National Restaurant Association groped her after a dinner together in 1997.
Sharon Bialek, who worked at the restaurant group's education foundation until shortly before the alleged groping incident, said Cain unexpectedly put his hand on her leg beneath her skirt "toward my genitals." She also said he pushed her head toward his crotch.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/07/politics/cain-allegations/index.html?eref=igoogledmn_topstories

BRB! Have to go blindly write a check to the campaign of a totally unqualified womanizing scumbag, because I don't like when the media vets Republican candidates and says mean things about them.

[DBruleU]

BRB! Have to go blindly write a check to the campaign of a totally unqualified womanizing scumbag, because I don't like when the media vets Republican candidates and says mean things about them.

Just go smoke a bowl and save yourself the strain of having to write something down.

[Smiling Assassin27]

BRB! Have to go blindly write a check to the campaign of a totally unqualified womanizing scumbag, because I don't like when the media rabidly attacks in a partisan way Republican candidates and says mean things about them.

FIFY

[bowtown]

FIFY

So then you do admit he a totally unqualified womanizing scumbag. Glad we are at least on the same page with that.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Its all about how red the meat is. The two different politicians from New York, both dems I believe, with recent sex scandals were the talk of mainstream media for quite some time. One for hiring a high end prostitute, the other for online photos he was sending out trying to bag some poon (while married).

They were off-beat enough to make for sensational headlines so they led and led often. Clinton's issues during his primary run came when he was a nobody dark horse candidate and had very little substantiation. Clinton also snuffed the one accusation out quickly with a capable denial and nothing followed.

In Cain's case this broke when he was the talk of the GOP air waves and he then fed it a steady diet by changing his story. Now its getting more traction as its been kept alive long enough for others to jump on-board.

The media is not liberally biased, they're ratings biased. If you bring ratings you're their boy, no matter what context they need to sell it in. The only stations that ignore ratings in favor of an agenda are Fox News and MSNBC, who aren't really news stations at all.

Clinton's issues during his primary run came when he was a nobody dark horse candidate and had very little substantiation.

You have essentially the same 'substantiation' or less in Cain's case, at this point. Granted, he sure screwed himself with his unprepared reaction and lack of poise.

Clinton also snuffed the one accusation out quickly with a capable denial and nothing followed.



Clinton was a sitting governor, Spitzer was a sitting governor, and Weiner was a sitting congressman. Between Flowers, Jones, Broaddrick, Ward, Willey, and Lewinsky, you'd expect the coverage similar to Cain's coverage--94 stories in the last 4-5 days. Instead, Broaddrick got 3 stories, Willey got 3 stories, and Paula Jones got 1. Cain's accusers (until today) were anonymous.

The media is not liberally biased, they're ratings biased.

Interesting idea, but not entirely true. Do yourself a favor and give this a read, I went in expecting a whine-fest and got something much different:

http://www.amazon.com/Primetime-Propaganda-True-Hollywood-Story/dp/0061934771/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1306873316&sr=1-1

[Smiling Assassin27]

So then you do admit he a totally unqualified womanizing scumbag. Glad we are at least on the same page with that.

He may very well be. If the media would vet him properly, we might actually know sooner. But alas, his position on the issues is something they care nothing about, sadly.

[peacepipe]

He may very well be. If the media would vet him properly, we might actually know sooner. But alas, his position on the issues is something they care nothing about, sadly.
he's been asked alot of questions regarding issues & hasn't come across very well,everythings open game cause it speaks toward his character/credibility.

[DenverBrit]

He may very well be. If the media would vet him properly, we might actually know sooner. But alas, his position on the issues is something they care nothing about, sadly.

You have to admit, 999 was not his idea, it was cobbled together by his campaign accountant, which explains why Cain has appeared not to understand it. His foreign policy knowledge, is by his own admission, non existent.

Yet his 'spokesman' came up with this gem after the fourth woman stepped forward. Interestingly, the Republican supporters attitude is 'we don't care,' the same supporters were like rabid dogs when Clinton was accused of having 'consensual' sex.

Sexual harassment is apparently not a concern to them. Cain accuses Perry of stirring this pot, so it's hardly a 'partisan' issue, it's a political issue and both sides of the aisle are enjoying themselves.

"All allegations of harassment against Mr. Cain are completely false. Mr. Cain has never harassed anyone. Fortunately the American people will not allow Mr. Cain's bold '9-9-9 Plan,' clear foreign policy vision 8') and plans for energy independence to be overshadowed by these bogus attacks," Gordon added.

[TonyR]

Are you saying they are nothing alike?

There's a huge difference between consensual sex on one hand, and the abuse of power and sexual harassment on the other. You really don't understand the difference?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Woman accuses Cain of bold sexual advance (http://news.yahoo.com/woman-accuses-cain-bold-sexual-advance-193258298.html)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

There's a huge difference between consensual sex on one hand, and the abuse of power and sexual harassment on the other. You really don't understand the difference?

Watching the Cain apologists try to equate harassment with consensual sex in their deflection attempts is comical. Ha!

[Drek]

You have essentially the same 'substantiation' or less in Cain's case, at this point. Granted, he sure screwed himself with his unprepared reaction and lack of poise.
And that is the primary reason Cain is still dealing with this. If his campaign had used the 10 days of heads up Politico gave them to get his story straight and ducks in a row it would have all blown over once the media had no new updates for a 48 hour window.

Instead he changes his story often enough to keep all media outlets updating on it, dragging it out to the point where attention whores who've had encounters with the man starting thinking about the context of their encounter.


Clinton was a sitting governor, Spitzer was a sitting governor, and Weiner was a sitting congressman. Between Flowers, Jones, Broaddrick, Ward, Willey, and Lewinsky, you'd expect the coverage similar to Cain's coverage--94 stories in the last 4-5 days. Instead, Broaddrick got 3 stories, Willey got 3 stories, and Paula Jones got 1. Cain's accusers (until today) were anonymous.
Anonymous accusers or named accusers doesn't matter. Sitting in office doesn't matter. How much the story sizzles is what matters. If you're the hot topic at the time its big news. If the accusations are strange or carries shock value its big news.

Everyone assumes most politicians are crooks. You can't sell generic political corruption very well. When its excessive, outlandish, or the offender happens to be hot news for another reason then it escalates. Party affiliation has nothing to do with it.

Interesting idea, but not entirely true. Do yourself a favor and give this a read, I went in expecting a whine-fest and got something much different:

http://www.amazon.com/Primetime-Propaganda-True-Hollywood-Story/dp/0061934771/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1306873316&sr=1-1

Sorry, I don't read trash lit by ideologues.

[Bronco Yoda]

Cain sends out his friend to play the race card on CNN. I thought Cain didn't PLAY the race card?

4 woman now... 2 are speaking. This is going to get interesting.


TJ's running Cain 'get the truth out' banners right now at the top :giggle::rofl:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Cain sends out his friend to play the race card on CNN. I thought Cain didn't PLAY the race card?


Why shouldn't he?

The right-wingers only have a problem with that sort of thing when it's Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton doing it.

[cutthemdown]

Sorry I never trust Gloria. Her reputation with other lawyers is she lies and picks cases based on publicity. Then fabricates everything. Notice she never actually goes to trial? Her theories would never stand up to a real court. she farms out cases to real attorneys.

[cutthemdown]

I don't really care if my President made bold advances. As long as he didn't rape anyone he's still fit for office.

Cain should have just said oh yeah i rem her, we totally did it like 4 times. I offered her a job but she didn't take it, never heard from her again. She liked it freaky and enjoyed my big black dick. lol.

[bowtown]

I don't really care if my President made bold advances. As long as he didn't rape anyone he's still fit for office.

Cain should have just said oh yeah i rem her, we totally did it like 4 times. I offered her a job but she didn't take it, never heard from her again. She liked it freaky and enjoyed my big black dick. lol.

Wow.

[Rohirrim]

Now, Cain's smoking chief of staff steps in it some more with Hannity's prodding:

"At the press conference it was brought up that Karen Kraushaar had come out as one of the women, so we've come to find out that her son works at POLITICO, the organization that originally put this story out," Block said.

When Hannity asked if the information about Kraushaar's "son" was confirmed, Block said: "We've confirmed that he does indeed work at POLITICO and that's his mother, yes."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/09/mark-block-herman-cain-politico-clains_n_1083427.html

Which is cool, except that the guy doesn't work at Politico, oh, and he's not even related to the woman. They just have the same last name. I guess this is the kind of in depth research we can expect from Cain? Look up a name and then go on Hannity and spew a bunch of accusations?

That's the kind of detail oriented crisis management you want out of a presidential chief of staff.

It occurred to me, the best part of this Cain meltdown? It keeps the drama llama away from the forum. Ha!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

It occurred to me, the best part of this Cain meltdown? It keeps the drama llama away from the forum. Ha!

:laugh:

No small bennie there.

[DBruleU]

http://m.cbsatlanta.com/w/main/story/45767027/

[ant1999e]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-cain-accuser-20111109,0,856407.story

Cain accuser filed complaint against supervisors in her next job 3 years later

WASHINGTON (AP) — A woman who settled a sexual harassment complaint against GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain in 1999 complained three years later at her next job about unfair treatment, saying she should be allowed to work from home after a serious car accident and accusing a manager of circulating a sexually charged email, The Associated Press has learned.

Karen Kraushaar, 55, filed the complaint while working as a spokeswoman at the Immigration and Naturalization Service in the Justice Department in late 2002 or early 2003, with the assistance of her lawyer, Joel Bennett, who also handled her earlier sexual harassment complaint against Cain in 1999. Three former supervisors familiar with Kraushaar's complaint, which did not include a claim of sexual harassment, described it for the AP under condition of anonymity because the matter was handled internally by the agency and was not public.
To settle the complaint at the immigration service, Kraushaar initially demanded thousands of dollars in payment, a reinstatement of leave she used after the accident earlier in 2002, promotion on the federal pay scale and a one-year fellowship to Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, according to a former supervisor familiar with the complaint. The promotion itself would have increased her annual salary between $12,000 and $16,000, according to salary tables in 2002 from the U.S. Office of Personnel Management.

Kraushaar told the AP she considered her employment complaint "relatively minor" and she later dropped it.

"The concern was that there may have been discrimination on the job and that I was being treated unfairly," Kraushaar said.

Kraushaar said Tuesday she did not remember details about the complaint and did not remember asking for a payment, a promotion or a Harvard fellowship. Bennett, her lawyer, declined to discuss the case with the AP, saying he considered it confidential. Kraushaar left her job at the immigration service after dropping the complaint in 2003, and she went to work at the Treasury Department.

Details of the workplace complaint that Kraushaar made at the immigration service are relevant because they could offer insights into how she responded to conflicts at work. She now works as a spokeswoman in the office of the Treasury Department's inspector general for tax administration.

Kraushaar's complaint was based on supervisors denying her request to work full time from home after a serious car accident in 2002, three former supervisors said. Two of them said Kraushaar also was denied previous requests to work from home before the car accident.

The complaint also cited as objectionable an email that a manager had circulated comparing computers to women and men, a former supervisor said. The complaint claimed that the email, based on humor widely circulated on the Internet, was sexually explicit, according to the supervisor, who did not have a copy of the email. The joke circulated online lists reasons men and women were like computers, including that men were like computers because "in order to get their attention, you have to turn them on." Women were like computers because "even your smallest mistakes are stored in long-term memory for later retrieval."

Kraushaar told the AP that she remembered the complaint focusing on supervisors denying her the opportunity to work from home after her car accident. She said other employees were allowed to work from home.

Kraushaar, who is married and lives in suburban Maryland, was among two women who formally settled harassment complaints against Cain in exchange for severance payments in the late 1990s when they worked at the National Restaurant Association. Bennett has said Kraushaar settled her claim during the summer of 1999, shortly after Cain left the organization. Neither Kraushaar nor Bennett have described exactly what Cain was accused of saying or doing to Kraushaar when she worked there, although Bennett said Kraushaar wants to conduct a joint news conference with all the women who have accused Cain. The New York Times reported previously that Kraushaar received $45,000 in the settlement with the restaurant association.

Kraushaar agreed to discuss some aspects of the complaint at the immigration service if the AP agreed to protect her privacy, as it did in previous accounts of her complaint against Cain. She subsequently waived her privacy by confirming for news organizations her identity as one of two women who settled complaints against Cain, so the AP no longer is protecting Kraushaar's identity.

Cain has denied that he sexually harassed Kraushaar and others who have accused him of inappropriate behavior.

In a news conference Tuesday evening, Cain said allegations of sexual harassment by Kraushaar — whom Cain identified by name for the first time — were determined to be "baseless," but he did not explain who made this determination and Kraushaar has disputed this. Cain said that after negotiations between Bennett and the restaurant association's outside counsel she received money under an employment agreement, which Cain said was different from a legal settlement.

"When she made her accusations, they were found to be baseless and she could not find anyone to corroborate her story," Cain said.

Cain said he remembered gesturing to Kraushaar and noting that she was the same height as Cain's wife, about chin-high to Cain. The Georgia businessman said Kraushaar did not react noticeably, but he said the restaurant association lawyer later told him that was the most serious claim that Kraushaar made against him, "the one she was most upset about."

"Other things that might have been in the accusations, I'm not aware of, I don't remember," Cain said.

Sharon Bialek, a Chicago woman who once worked for the restaurant association's education foundation, accused Cain in a nationally televised news conference this week of groping her and attempting to force himself on her inside a parked car after they had dinner in 1997. Another woman told the AP that Cain made unwanted sexual advances to her while she worked for the association, and a pollster said he witnessed Cain sexually harass another woman after an association dinner.

Kraushaar's complaint at the immigration service prompted managers to use caution when writing and speaking to Kraushaar while the complaint was being investigated, another former supervisor told the AP. Two supervisors said Kraushaar asked a colleague to act as a witness when she had conversations with one manager after she filed her complaint.

The complaint at the immigration service was "nobody's business," Kraushaar said, because it was irrelevant to her sexual harassment settlement with Cain years earlier. "What you're looking for here is evidence of an employee who is out to get people," she said. "That's completely untrue."

Kraushaar, who started her career in Washington as a reporter, was praised for her work in 2000 when she traveled to Miami to help agency officials during the coverage of the Elian Gonzalez case, when federal agents seized the boy from relatives to return him to his father in Cuba.

"Ms. Kraushaar's assistance was invaluable and her performance extraordinary," wrote Robert A. Wallis, the immigration service district director in Miami. Kraushaar provided seven such letters of recommendation to show that her performance was commendable while working at the Consumer Product Safety Commission, the restaurant association and the immigration service.

[ant1999e]

'gold digger' embroiled in legal and financial difficulties who has always lived above her station and will do anything to never have to work again.
This is the portrait that has started to emerge of the fourth woman to accuse Herman Cain of sexual harassment - the first to come out publicly.
Though her lawyer Gloria Allred painted a respectable and prestigious education and employment history for Sharon Bialek, 50, just a day later it has been revealed that she has not held a job for more than two years and has filed for bankruptcy twice.
The 50-year-old is a single mother and suburban homemaker who lives in a large five bedroom house with her fiance - who said he first heard about the 'shocking' allegations on Friday.
Mark Harwood, who has been dating the 50-year-old for several years after meeting online, said he will stand by his fiancée and believes coming out publicly was a 'gutsy' thing to do.
He said: 'It's not an anti-political thing. It's not a money thing. She's just trying to do the right thing, and that takes guts.'
A former employee of the National Restaurant Association Education Fund, Ms Bialek told a press conference in New York yesterday that when she went to Mr Cain for advice on finding a new job in July 1997, he 'put his hand on my leg under

Herman Cain's campaign immediately released a statement saying the allegations were untrue and the embattled nominee appeared on the Jimmy Kimmel show last night saying he was going to come out fighting.
'This is a lady who lives off the system. She is hellbent on finding a way of never having to work and living the lifestyle she wants to live, a very affluent lifestyle''I was listening very closely and then when it was all over with, I said, well I know what we got to do because there's not an ounce of truth in all of these accusations and my team is putting this stuff together.

'That is why I'm willing to do a press conference tomorrow to set the record straight. I'm in it to win it and I'm not going to be discouraged.'
Meanwhile, a friend of Ms Bialek, from Chicago, told the New York Post: 'She has a very infectious personality. It’s easy to see how she won [Cain] over. But the reality of her situation is -- she’s a complete gold digger. It’s all about the money.'
Adding that she was from a middle-income family but lives in a posh house while running from bill collectors, the source said: 'Most of her jobs ended in termination. It’s always the employer’s fault, not hers.

'This is a lady who lives off the system. She is hellbent on finding a way of never having to work and living the lifestyle she wants to live, a very affluent lifestyle.'

Meanwhile, a fifth woman has come out to talk about some suspect activity at the hands of Cain.
Former employee of the United States Agency for International Development Donna Donella, 40, from Arlington, said the Republican presidential candidate asked her to help arrange a dinner date for him with a female audience member following a speech he delivered nine years ago.

She told the Washington Examiner: 'After the seminar was over. Cain came over to me and a colleague and said, "Could you put me in touch with that lovely young lady who asked the question, so I can give her a more thorough answer over dinner?"'
When she declined to saying she didn't feel comfortable doing it, he then invited her to dinner. She accepted and brought two colleagues with her.
Though she said Cain exhibited no inappropriate sexual behavior during the dinner, he did order two $400 bottles of wine and left the women with the bill.

Details of a number of legal and financial difficulties belonging to Ms Bialek also emerged today, with the Chicago Tribune listing a long history with tax evasion and late or missed credit card payments.
The paper reported that Ms Bialek has filed for personal bankruptcy twice, first in 1991 and then again in 2001.
In 2001, she claimed $5,700 in assets and more than $36,000 in liabilities. Among the creditors seeking payment was a management firm demanding back rent of $4,500, four credit card companies and a lawyer asking for his legal fees.

cont...

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2058983/Murky-past-Herman-Cain-accuser-Sharon-Bialek-starts-emerge.html#ixzz1dKoyNN3c

[Rohirrim]

'gold digger' embroiled in legal and financial difficulties who has always lived above her station and will do anything to never have to work again.


Uhh If that was the case, wouldn't she have just given Cain the BJ and received the job she was after?

[Rohirrim]

This is a lady who lives off the system. She is hellbent on finding a way of never having to work and living the lifestyle she wants to live, a very affluent lifestyle.

She wants to be a politician?

[DenverBrit]

Uhh If that was the case, wouldn't she have just given Cain the BJ and received the job she was after?

Yeah, but what's in it for Cain? Ha!

[Drek]

So anonymous sources restricted from coming out by a legal NDA = unreliable. But anonymous "co-workers" and "friends" who remember explicit details about a 10 year old issue another co-worker had is hardcore fact.

Apparently Cain is just a gold digger magnet. Strange how no other high profile political candidates seem to be under this kind of attack.

[barryr]

So anonymous sources restricted from coming out by a legal NDA = unreliable. But anonymous "co-workers" and "friends" who remember explicit details about a 10 year old issue another co-worker had is hardcore fact.

Apparently Cain is just a gold digger magnet. Strange how no other high profile political candidates seem to be under this kind of attack.

More like "strange" how this came out only after Cain was leading in most polls.

[TonyR]

More like "strange" how this came out only after Cain was leading in most polls.

And has been stated numerous time, it's considerably more likely that one of the GOP candidates or the GOP elite raised this issue than the Obama camp. Obama and the Dems would welcome a campaign against Cain.

[cutthemdown]

LOL one of these accusers lives in same building as David Axelrod. Give me a break. The Chicago Style is now firmly going on in DC. Obama made it dirtier and slimier then its ever been.

[cutthemdown]

And has been stated numerous time, it's considerably more likely that one of the GOP candidates or the GOP elite raised this issue than the Obama camp. Obama and the Dems would welcome a campaign against Cain.

It's already been proven, it was axelrod brother. It's always Axelrod when it comes to Obama on the attack. They are starting early because they know its a tough election.

[ant1999e]

And has been stated numerous time, it's considerably more likely that one of the GOP candidates or the GOP elite raised this issue than the Obama camp. Obama and the Dems would welcome a campaign against Cain.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/09/gloria-allred-political-sex-scandals_n_1082507.html#s460371&title=Sharon_Bialek_

Allred's also been a prominent face in some Hollywood hiccups. When it comes to money, she has been far from shy toward Democrats, donating thousands of dollars to the likes of John Kerry, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

[barryr]

And has been stated numerous time, it's considerably more likely that one of the GOP candidates or the GOP elite raised this issue than the Obama camp. Obama and the Dems would welcome a campaign against Cain.

Stated by Obama supporters of course since you can not believe his saintly squad who work for him would do such a thing.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

Stated by Obama supporters of course since you can not believe his saintly squad who work for him would do such a thing.

Least we forget that one of Cain's accusers lives one Axelrods rentals.

[TonyR]

It's already been proven, it was axelrod brother.

Proven? I haven't been following this story very closely but the link below from hardcore right winger Michelle Malkin says otherwise.

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/11/07/no-david-axelrod-is-not-connected-to-sharon-bialek-plus-cook-county-court-records/

[TonyR]

Stated by Obama supporters of course since you can not believe his saintly squad who work for him would do such a thing.

I never stated such a belief. Wouldn't really surprise me. I think the case against Cain is fairly strong and damaging either way. That being said, with or without this whole fiasco, I have no concerns about Herman Cain. Obama would beat him soundly in an election. He's a very poor candidate in many ways, the main one being that he doesn't have a very good grasp of the issues or foreign policy. The fact that he has polled as well as he has says a lot more about the sorry state of the GOP and it's out of touch base than anything else.

[lonestar]

What is it with these Right Wingers? I guess they just consider women to be their personal tools. Well, I suppose the Republicans are breathing a sigh of relief about this. At least it was women, eh? ;D

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/30/herman-cain-sexual-harassment-accusations_n_1066487.html

quoting huffington what a laugh they have not had a fair a and balanced report since they opened their doors..

and PLEEEEEEASE lets NOT get into the perverts on the DEMOcratic side..

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Cain says God persuaded him to run for president (http://news.yahoo.com/cain-says-god-persuaded-him-run-president-204548374.html)

Ha ha ha! :laugh:

No wonder DramaLlama and the rest of the flat earthers are on his jock.

[Smiling Assassin27]

http://bcove.me/tryhgska


See Cain on Libya and Cain on Collective Bargaining. He's just managed to hang himself with his own rope--'rope' being another word for 'inexperience and lack on knowledge on the issues'.

Dude's not ready, plain and simple.

[lonestar]

http://bcove.me/tryhgska


See Cain on Libya and Cain on Collective Bargaining. He's just managed to hang himself with his own rope--'rope' being another word for 'inexperience and lack on knowledge on the issues'.

Dude's not ready, plain and simple.

and nobama was?

[Smiling Assassin27]

and nobama was?

Two wrongs don't make a right. The morons that stuck us with Obama were clearly infatuated, not informed. Let's not be those people. Cain's not ready and the primary race is where that needs to be established, not after he's won the presidency.

The sexual harrassment charges are flimsy and sensationalistic, but the obvious lack of preparation on the issues is what ought to end this guy's run.

[DBruleU]

Two wrongs don't make a right. The morons that stuck us with Obama were clearly infatuated, not informed. Let's not be those people. Cain's not ready and the primary race is where that needs to be established, not after he's won the presidency.

The sexual harrassment charges are flimsy and sensationalistic, but the obvious lack of preparation on the issues is what ought to end this guy's run.

Cain's nothing like Obama, or Obama is nothing like Cain.

There is huge difference in leadership. Leaders know how to put those around them that know what the leader doesn't to make informed decisions. No President can be expected to understand and know what to do on every issue, but a good President knows how to put those around them that do understand those issues. Obama has failed miserably in that aspect.

[DenverBrit]

Cain's nothing like Obama, or Obama is nothing like Cain.

There is huge difference in leadership. Leaders know how to put those around them that know what the leader doesn't to make informed decisions. No President can be expected to understand and know what to do on every issue, but a good President knows how to put those around them that do understand those issues. Obama has failed miserably in that aspect.

You mean like Cain's accountant who came up with 9-9-9??

Face it, the wheels started to come off his wagon when he announced a tax plan that made no sense.....and one he didn't even understand. Everything else is the cherry on his failed attempt.

Who's next....Gingrich? :spit:

At this rate, the GOP will soon be down to Huntsman and Romney, the evangelical right's nightmare.

Neither party has anything to crow about, they have both failed miserably.

[peacepipe]

Cain's nothing like Obama, or Obama is nothing like Cain.

There is huge difference in leadership. Leaders know how to put those around them that know what the leader doesn't to make informed decisions. No President can be expected to understand and know what to do on every issue, but a good President knows how to put those around them that do understand those issues. Obama has failed miserably in that aspect.I seem to remember that same logic being used to support GWB back in 2000.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Cain's nothing like Obama, or Obama is nothing like Cain.

There is huge difference in leadership. Leaders know how to put those around them that know what the leader doesn't to make informed decisions. No President can be expected to understand and know what to do on every issue, but a good President knows how to put those around them that do understand those issues. Obama has failed miserably in that aspect.

There are similarities and there are differences. Cain has a demonstrated record of leadership as an executive while Obama had none (and many would argue STILL has none). I don't disagree that any presidential candidate will not be privy to every piece of data necessary to make a coherent point and take a specific policy position, but this is where they are very similar. Obama demonstrated just how little he knew about foreign policy issues by leaving all those Bush policies intact after running against and voting against them for 2 years. Had he not assailed Bush's policies strictly on political (not strategic) grounds, and acknowledged that the info he had was insufficient to definitively take a stance on some issues like Iran, Rendition, the Surge, etc., he'd have more credibility. But Cain goes too far the other way. His fall back answer--while reasonable--is that he does not have enough information to make a definitive statement on certain things. OK, that's fine, but Cain has shown thru his mannerisms and incoherence that he really has little to no familiarity with many important issues upon which voters must decide.

On the job training is not something America can afford after 4 years of it with this Administration. Leadership is Cain's strength but literacy on issues other than tax policy outweigh this right now, IMO.

[Arkie]

Who's next....Gingrich? :spit:


Gingrich is the next backup plan of the establishment after plans B, C, and D didn't work. It just shows how weak Romney is with the people since he's the establishment's first choice.

[peacepipe]

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/updates/1887

From Rasmussen:

Despite the continued hammering Cain has taken in the media over sexual harassment allegations leveled against him in the 1990s, the new numbers mark virtually no change from a week ago when Obama led him 48% to 37%. That survey, however, marked a drop in support for the Georgia businessman who trailed Obama by just five points at the end of October and earlier that month had edged ahead of the president 43% to 41%.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Gingrich is the next BULLSEYE of the Mainstream Media after plans B, C, and D didn't work. It just shows how weak Romney is with the people since he's the establishment's first choice.

FIFY

[DenverBrit]

Gingrich is the next backup plan of the establishment after plans B, C, and D didn't work. It just shows how weak Romney is with the people since he's the establishment's first choice.

The GOP candidate selection mechanism.

http://www.postalproducts.com/images/2/N1004822.jpg

[TonyR]

The morons that stuck us with Obama were clearly infatuated, not informed.

Or, those "morons" didn't want McCain/Palin anywhere near the White House? Perhaps?

Common sense. It's uncommon. You're proof of this.

[Rohirrim]

There are similarities and there are differences. Cain has a demonstrated record of leadership as an executive while Obama had none (and many would argue STILL has none). I don't disagree that any presidential candidate will not be privy to every piece of data necessary to make a coherent point and take a specific policy position, but this is where they are very similar. Obama demonstrated just how little he knew about foreign policy issues by leaving all those Bush policies intact after running against and voting against them for 2 years. Had he not assailed Bush's policies strictly on political (not strategic) grounds, and acknowledged that the info he had was insufficient to definitively take a stance on some issues like Iran, Rendition, the Surge, etc., he'd have more credibility. But Cain goes too far the other way. His fall back answer--while reasonable--is that he does not have enough information to make a definitive statement on certain things. OK, that's fine, but Cain has shown thru his mannerisms and incoherence that he really has little to no familiarity with many important issues upon which voters must decide.

On the job training is not something America can afford after 4 years of it with this Administration. Leadership is Cain's strength but literacy on issues other than tax policy outweigh this right now, IMO.

You mean the guy who took down Al Queda, and got Bin Laden, right?

[Rohirrim]

Oops! Now Cain says, if this van is a rockin', don't come knockin'. :rofl:

A new woman alleged a 13-year-old affair with Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain on Monday, prompting the former Godfather's Pizza CEO to issue fresh denials of any wrongdoing.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/28/9074100-cain-denies-new-allegation-of-affair

Cain says this is just one more in the numerous "baseless" claims made against him.

[Blart]

A new woman alleged a 13-year-old affair with Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain on Monday, prompting the former Godfather's Pizza CEO to issue fresh denials of any wrongdoing.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/28/9074100-cain-denies-new-allegation-of-affair


There's a woman claiming he didn't assault or harass her? Cain, you old sweetheart!

[Rohirrim]

The pizza king knows how to play hide the salami. Although, in his case, maybe it should be pepperoni. :wiggle: