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Kaylore
10-23-2011, 07:42 PM
1. 0-6 Indy SOS .525
2. 0-5 St. Louis SOS .571
3. 0-6 Miami SOS .583
4. 1-5 Jacksonville SOS .505
5. 1-5 Minnesota SOS .612
6. 1-4 Arizona SOS .479
7. 2-5 Carolina SOS .520
8. 2-4 Philly SOS .505
9. 2-4 Seattle SOS .505
10. 2-4 Denver SOS .583

LetsGoBroncos
10-23-2011, 07:45 PM
I've said all year we aren't as bad as some people think. Aside from the GB game we have been in it until the end in each game

KO5K
10-23-2011, 07:46 PM
lol at the Eagles.

Dream team my ass.

Pick Six
10-23-2011, 07:47 PM
So, Miami is 0-6 and STILL is slotted to pick 3rd? Hilarious!Hilarious!

That's OK. I still feel confident that Indianapolis will find a way to win a game or two before it's all over. They have too much talent on the offensive side of the ball...

Requiem
10-23-2011, 07:47 PM
Brian Dawkins to be replaced by Mark Barron.

Kaylore
10-23-2011, 07:55 PM
So, Miami is 0-6 and STILL is slotted to pick 3rd? Hilarious!Hilarious!

That's OK. I still feel confident that Indianapolis will find a way to win a game or two before it's all over. They have too much talent on the offensive side of the ball...

What's funny is they were second until today. Even when they lose they can't win. :~ohyah!:

Baba Booey
10-23-2011, 07:56 PM
Morris Claiborne, Trent Richardson, Dre Kirkpatrick, etc.

Quite obviously we probably won't pick tenth, but if we did, there would be some serious talent around.

broncosteven
10-23-2011, 08:04 PM
What's funny is they were second until today. Even when they lose they can't win. :~ohyah!:

Like Solomon WillCOCKs said (even if he couldn't remember who said it)

You Play To Win The Game

broncosteven
10-23-2011, 08:05 PM
We are 2 games out of 1st place in the division

Punisher
10-23-2011, 08:07 PM
We are 2 games out of 1st place in the division

Hilarious!

bronco militia
10-23-2011, 08:13 PM
looks like we have a new leader in the clubhouse after the winless teams

arizona has the inside track...(easiest schedule)

TonyR
10-23-2011, 08:30 PM
lol at the Eagles.

Dream team my ass.

I predict they end up winning 9 or 10 games.

Taco John
10-23-2011, 09:29 PM
Morris Claiborne, Trent Richardson, Dre Kirkpatrick, etc.

Quite obviously we probably won't pick tenth, but if we did, there would be some serious talent around.

What do you mean obviously? That's about exactly where I think we'll pick in the next draft.

Rolandftw
10-23-2011, 09:49 PM
Didn't really drop too much with the win today. I think we would pick at #7 had we lost today.

Still think we pick somewhere in the top 5.

epicSocialism4tw
10-23-2011, 09:59 PM
Didn't really drop too much with the win today. I think we would pick at #7 had we lost today.

Still think we pick somewhere in the top 5.

We won't be in the top 3 for sure. Indy, Miami, St. Louis...those three suck on another level.

Jacksonville and Arizona are both probably worse than Denver.

I'd say that Minnesota and Seattle are about the level that the Broncos are at.

So I'd put us between 6 and 9, which should be enough to score the best available player at one of CB, RB, MLB, DT, or DE.

Gort
10-23-2011, 10:01 PM
i'm glad the suck for Luck nonsense is over, at least for Broncos fans. we never had much of a chance anyway, and now we have 2 more wins than Indy or McLouis will end up with.

Rolandftw
10-23-2011, 10:20 PM
We won't be in the top 3 for sure. Indy, Miami, St. Louis...those three suck on another level.

Jacksonville and Arizona are both probably worse than Denver.

I'd say that Minnesota and Seattle are about the level that the Broncos are at.

So I'd put us between 6 and 9, which should be enough to score the best available player at one of CB, RB, MLB, DT, or DE.

I could see us in the 6-9 range as well. Just think we'll end up in the 3-5 range. Minnesota looks like a much better team now that they made the QB switch. Guess we'll see first hand with our game @Minnesota. And Jacksonville plays Indy twice. Something has to give there. Same thing with Seattle, Arizona and St Louis.

We'll have a chance to get a top talent though for sure. Would be disappointed probably if we took a MLB that high tho... If we can get a dominant HB with our spot, I'm all for that. Need a DT badly as well, although it's unlikely any will be worth taking in the top ten of the draft.

Requiem
10-23-2011, 10:22 PM
I wouldn't doubt that the team could rock enough fire to get up to .500 by the end of the season or at least play that sort of ball. A great deal of this hinges on Tebow's development, but it seems that his teammates are inspired by his play and vigor on the gridiron.

That being said, Denver will be in a terrific position to add a starter to their ball club with their first selection. The odds for a top DL, LB or DB is quite good. I can see an argument for a top flight OT, but I think we can get more of an immediate impact with a defender. Denver can play their cards right and end up with three starters right away at the aforementioned positions if they play their cards right. I think the depth-quality and round versatility works out very well for those positions.

Baba Booey
10-23-2011, 10:29 PM
What do you mean obviously? That's about exactly where I think we'll pick in the next draft.

I worded that wrong. Yeah, it's very possible that we'll pick tenth. What I meant was that the order of teams is probably going to shake out differently, but no matter who picks before us, there will be a good amount of talent available.

pricejj
10-23-2011, 11:58 PM
I predict they end up winning 9 or 10 games.

I'll take you up on that bet (eagles)...how much $?

Mogulseeker
10-24-2011, 12:05 AM
So we're on pace for about 5-11. Somehow I think we might actually do better than that.

Mile High Mojoe
10-24-2011, 12:14 AM
1. 0-6 Indy SOS .525
2. 0-5 St. Louis SOS .571
3. 0-6 Miami SOS .583
4. 1-5 Jacksonville SOS .505
5. 1-5 Minnesota SOS .612
6. 1-4 Arizona SOS .479
7. 2-5 Carolina SOS .520
8. 2-4 Philly SOS .505
9. 2-4 Seattle SOS .505
10. 2-4 Denver SOS .583

Kaylore I just don't even understand the reason or meaning of this post at all. It has absolutely positively no meaning other than to point out we have to suck some more to get a better pick next year is that right? Does it advance the case of the team this year? Maybe just maybe we move up the ladder and win more games, then what? Has this what itís come to? Trying to figuring out what our LOSING PERCENTAGE is so we can be in the Luck sweepstakes or for some other canít miss college prospect?

What kind of fans thinks this way? Are you suggesting that we speak in terms of defeats instead of victories so we can live to fight another day another year? You havenít responded to one of my post in over 2 years because the of clan you belong to in here but honestly? What about this year? Iím just saying

BroncoBuff
10-24-2011, 12:38 AM
What were the 1st round draft numbers you gave in the Walton/Beadles thread Khan ... that maybe 11 of the top 15 prospects are offensive players?

I say why fight it, go with T-Rich or somebody, then load up on D elsewhere.

Here's a firestarter: If Tebow succeeds I think we should trade Ryan Clady. Get a real MLB maybe, DT and/or a high pick. Tebow is a lefty, therefore stands to reason LT doesn't have the same live-or-die importance. The Rams have given up the MOST SACKS in the league this year ... dangerous with a very talented but very brittle young QB. If they miss out on Luck, I think they'd pay big-big for a proven All-Pro LT.

ZONA
10-24-2011, 01:22 AM
I could see us in the 6-9 range as well. Just think we'll end up in the 3-5 range. Minnesota looks like a much better team now that they made the QB switch. Guess we'll see first hand with our game @Minnesota. And Jacksonville plays Indy twice. Something has to give there. Same thing with Seattle, Arizona and St Louis.

We'll have a chance to get a top talent though for sure. Would be disappointed probably if we took a MLB that high tho... If we can get a dominant HB with our spot, I'm all for that. Need a DT badly as well, although it's unlikely any will be worth taking in the top ten of the draft.

If we get a top 10 pick, it's got to be DT or CB that high. Obviously we need help at DT but CB is going to be a huge need for us also. Champ ain't gettin' younger and Hill is average and I haven't seen anything great from the others. I think a nice top CB prospect would be a great pick as well as a DT. There's no way we pick another LB with our 1st pick. I'd bet serious money against that.

serious hops
10-24-2011, 03:13 AM
Kaylore I just don't even understand the reason or meaning of this post at all. It has absolutely positively no meaning other than to point out we have to suck some more to get a better pick next year is that right? Does it advance the case of the team this year? Maybe just maybe we move up the ladder and win more games, then what? Has this what itís come to? Trying to figuring out what our LOSING PERCENTAGE is so we can be in the Luck sweepstakes or for some other canít miss college prospect?

What kind of fans thinks this way? Are you suggesting that we speak in terms of defeats instead of victories so we can live to fight another day another year? You havenít responded to one of my post in over 2 years because the of clan you belong to in here but honestly? What about this year? Iím just saying

Wow. . . talk about reading a ton of junk into somebody's post based on exactly nothing.

Drek
10-24-2011, 04:16 AM
What were the 1st round draft numbers you gave in the Walton/Beadles thread Khan ... that maybe 11 of the top 15 prospects are offensive players?

I say why fight it, go with T-Rich or somebody, then load up on D elsewhere.

Here's a firestarter: If Tebow succeeds I think we should trade Ryan Clady. Get a real MLB maybe, DT and/or a high pick. Tebow is a lefty, therefore stands to reason LT doesn't have the same live-or-die importance. The Rams have given up the MOST SACKS in the league this year ... dangerous with a very talented but very brittle young QB. If they miss out on Luck, I think they'd pay big-big for a proven All-Pro LT.

Teams rarely change the arrangement of their defensive front just for a left handed QB. Clady will still face the best speed rushers throughout the season. There is no reason to blow up what has the potential to be a great young OL.

Broncoman13
10-24-2011, 04:31 AM
Kaylore I just don't even understand the reason or meaning of this post at all. It has absolutely positively no meaning other than to point out we have to suck some more to get a better pick next year is that right? Does it advance the case of the team this year? Maybe just maybe we move up the ladder and win more games, then what? Has this what itís come to? Trying to figuring out what our LOSING PERCENTAGE is so we can be in the Luck sweepstakes or for some other canít miss college prospect?

What kind of fans thinks this way? Are you suggesting that we speak in terms of defeats instead of victories so we can live to fight another day another year? You havenít responded to one of my post in over 2 years because the of clan you belong to in here but honestly? What about this year? Iím just saying
I think Khan is being reasonable and understanding that we are in a serious time of talent deficiencies. As coach Fox put it, we aren't rebuilding we are simply just building. The front office has stated several times that the plan is to build through the draft. Premiere players are drafted in the top 10 picks, solid starters in the top of the 2nd round. To turn the talent deficiency around, we need a few high picks. That is how SD got to where they are now. Same with Detroit. Anyhow, if we were a team that was stocked with talent and expected to win now, you probably wouldn't see the draft standings on a weekly basis, but given where we are currently in restocking the roster, I think it is a necessary evil. And of course Khan hopes for a win each week, just sees the bigger picture as well. I totally get where he is coming from.

Just think, had we won two more games last year we are probably looking at Robert Quinn or Nick Fairley instead of Von Miller. Pretty big gap in talent, IMO.

Broncoman13
10-24-2011, 04:36 AM
Teams rarely change the arrangement of their defensive front just for a left handed QB. Clady will still face the best speed rushers throughout the season. There is no reason to blow up what has the potential to be a great young OL.
I agree with you Drek, but I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see Clady dangled as trade material. I hope they don't but could see them doing it in a cost cutting move. What's Clady going to command in a new contract... 6 years $60m with $18 or so in bonuses and $30m guaranteed? PB would rather pay a couple rookies I am sure.

Shananahan
10-24-2011, 04:44 AM
If they miss out on Luck, I think they'd pay big-big for a proven All-Pro LT.
What would they pay for Clady, then?

Drek
10-24-2011, 06:41 AM
I agree with you Drek, but I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see Clady dangled as trade material. I hope they don't but could see them doing it in a cost cutting move. What's Clady going to command in a new contract... 6 years $60m with $18 or so in bonuses and $30m guaranteed? PB would rather pay a couple rookies I am sure.

Sure, but its not the smart football move to do so. If Clady leave it won't be for on the field reasons. It'll be because Patty Bidwell is a cheapskate.

robbieopperude
10-24-2011, 07:08 AM
Rams schedule gets so much easier. I think they will finish with 4 or 5 wins unless Bradford is out for an extended period of time. I would say you are looking at the Colts only winning 2 games max and getting the number 1 pick.

TonyR
10-24-2011, 07:18 AM
Rams schedule gets so much easier. I think they will finish with 4 or 5 wins...

I don't know, I can't see them winning that many. They're awful.

Kaylore
10-24-2011, 07:22 AM
Kaylore I just don't even understand the reason or meaning of this post at all. It has absolutely positively no meaning other than to point out we have to suck some more to get a better pick next year is that right? Does it advance the case of the team this year? Maybe just maybe we move up the ladder and win more games, then what? Has this what itís come to? Trying to figuring out what our LOSING PERCENTAGE is so we can be in the Luck sweepstakes or for some other canít miss college prospect?

What kind of fans thinks this way? Are you suggesting that we speak in terms of defeats instead of victories so we can live to fight another day another year? You havenít responded to one of my post in over 2 years because the of clan you belong to in here but honestly? What about this year? Iím just saying

LOL WTF? Who pissed in your golden grahams? I didn't advance any position. I posted our trending draft order to this point with zero commentary. Whether you are for "suck for Luck" (and I am not, by the way), want to win out and get a playoff bid, or are just curious how the chips are falling, I thought this information would be interesting for anyone. What opinion you and anyone else want to form based on this information is none of my business.

And I nominate your post for biggest overreaction of the week.

I think Khan is being reasonable and understanding that we are in a serious time of talent deficiencies. As coach Fox put it, we aren't rebuilding we are simply just building.
Absolutely false. Not that I'm being unreasonable, just that I didn't "intend" anything other than to show people what the draft order was looking like today. I found it interesting and thought people would like to discuss it. That is all.

gyldenlove
10-24-2011, 08:02 AM
LOL WTF? Who pissed in your golden grahams? I didn't advance any position. I posted our trending draft order to this point with zero commentary. Whether you are for "suck for Luck" (and I am not, by the way), want to win out and get a playoff bid, or are just curious how the chips are falling, I thought this information would be interesting for anyone. What opinion you and anyone else want to form based on this information is none of my business.

And I nominate your post for biggest overreaction of the week.



Don't mind him, he is the new Bronco fan police - the good news is that he is slightly crazier than the old super fans so you are in for some really interesting and highly emotional times.

BroncoBuff
10-24-2011, 08:08 AM
Teams rarely change the arrangement of their defensive front just for a left handed QB. Clady will still face the best speed rushers throughout the season. There is no reason to blow up what has the potential to be a great young OL.

Yeah you mentioned that before. I keep throwing the idea out there because I'm so gut-clutching weary of this perennially weak up the middle defense. Will we ever have above average DTs and a MLB? EVER?

Clady is that rare (non QB) player who would command a mid-high first-round pick.

Rohirrim
10-24-2011, 08:39 AM
10th? That put's us in the vicinity of Brandon Thompson or Alameda Ta'amu. :thumbs:

Traveler
10-24-2011, 08:55 AM
10th? That put's us in the vicinity of Brandon Thompson or Alameda Ta'amu. :thumbs:

Alameda Ta'amu is one big SOB. Don't know much about him. Is he any good?

Rohirrim
10-24-2011, 09:12 AM
Alameda Ta'amu is one big SOB. Don't know much about him. Is he any good?

He made a pretty amazing bull rush up the middle against Stanford this weekend and plowed Luck into the ground. And Stanford has one of the best Olines in college.

rocket88
10-24-2011, 09:35 AM
During a commercial break in his morning radio show, Vic Lombardi told the chatroom that "he's hearing from Bronco insiders that RG3 (Robert Griffen) is the QB they are interested in drafting.

RhymesayersDU
10-24-2011, 09:44 AM
During a commercial break in his morning radio show, Vic Lombardi told the chatroom that "he's hearing from Bronco insiders that RG3 (Robert Griffen) is the QB they are interested in drafting.

Who does he play for, would this be first round?

ColoradoDarin
10-24-2011, 09:57 AM
I love it when you post something factual without any commentary and people jump on you, looking for a fight.

rocket88
10-24-2011, 09:58 AM
Who does he play for, would this be first round?

He plays for Baylor.

He didn't say what round and it's hard to guess because it appears RG3's draft stock is rising.

Requiem
10-24-2011, 10:52 AM
10th? That put's us in the vicinity of Brandon Thompson or Alameda Ta'amu. :thumbs:

I think those guys will go later than that. Welcomed additions to the club for sure, but not Top 10 guys.

Requiem
10-24-2011, 10:58 AM
During a commercial break in his morning radio show, Vic Lombardi told the chatroom that "he's hearing from Bronco insiders that RG3 (Robert Griffen) is the QB they are interested in drafting.

That would be absolutely interesting. STOKED.

Tombstone RJ
10-24-2011, 12:08 PM
During a commercial break in his morning radio show, Vic Lombardi told the chatroom that "he's hearing from Bronco insiders that RG3 (Robert Griffen) is the QB they are interested in drafting.

:notworthy

I'd freaking love it if EFX pulled the trigger on this kid. I love Tebow but RG3 is just too enticing not to consider. They'd definitely be able to draft RG3 somewhere in the first round.

Again, what Tebow has to do to save his job is win games. If he get the Broncos out of the top 10, he's done a good job. If he gets the Broncos into the mid teens, IMHO he's insured his starting position as the Broncos QB for 2012-13.

But if EFX see something in RG3, they may take him if all their defensive picks are off the board. In other words, they may take him simply because he's the highest rated player on their draft board when they pick in the first round.

Lestat
10-24-2011, 12:10 PM
wherever we pick at next season i hope it ends with at least 3-4 starters.
we need talent and depth at so many positions it's not funny.

Tombstone RJ
10-24-2011, 12:10 PM
Who does he play for, would this be first round?

He's Baylor's starting QB.

TheChamp24
10-24-2011, 12:25 PM
I'd hate for us to give up on Tebow and draft Griffin, who I view as another somewhat project.
I say if we can't take Luck, don't draft a QB.

robbieopperude
10-24-2011, 12:39 PM
At pick ten I think we will be considering Martin at RT, Kirkpatrick at DB, or Burfict at ILB. It is a terrible year for DT's early and that is unfortunate for us.

broncosteven
10-24-2011, 12:42 PM
LOL WTF? Who pissed in your golden grahams? I didn't advance any position. I posted our trending draft order to this point with zero commentary. Whether you are for "suck for Luck" (and I am not, by the way), want to win out and get a playoff bid, or are just curious how the chips are falling, I thought this information would be interesting for anyone. What opinion you and anyone else want to form based on this information is none of my business.

And I nominate your post for biggest overreaction of the week.


Absolutely false. Not that I'm being unreasonable, just that I didn't "intend" anything other than to show people what the draft order was looking like today. I found it interesting and thought people would like to discuss it. That is all.


This is the 2011 Orange Mane, Kahn, where everyone knows exactly what you are thinking and punish you hard should they take any post as a slight and can't wait to publicly shame you back into the stone age.

Rohirrim
10-24-2011, 12:46 PM
I think those guys will go later than that. Welcomed additions to the club for sure, but not Top 10 guys.

I think they'll probably climb the boards by the time the draft rolls around, just due to the shortage of really good DTs this year. You know me, I always want the crazy Samoan. ;D

Kaylore
10-24-2011, 12:56 PM
This is the 2011 Orange Mane, Kahn, where everyone knows exactly what you are thinking and punish you hard should they take any post as a slight and can't wait to publicly shame you back into the stone age.

;D Well at least we're consistent, if nothing else...

Rolandftw
10-24-2011, 12:57 PM
If we get a top 10 pick, it's got to be DT or CB that high. Obviously we need help at DT but CB is going to be a huge need for us also. Champ ain't gettin' younger and Hill is average and I haven't seen anything great from the others. I think a nice top CB prospect would be a great pick as well as a DT. There's no way we pick another LB with our 1st pick. I'd bet serious money against that.

Guess I'm hesitant to only go after two positions with our first rounder.. even if it is a position of great need for the team. We have a lot of positions of need for the team. A great cover corner is an awesome asset in a very pass oriented league.. but I don't think there is a corner worth a top ten pick in this draft class. Likewise for DT. There is not a Dareus or Peterson (athletically on the latter) in this draft. At least, there doesn't appear to be.

Considering we're rebuilding I think we should just take the biggest impact player regardless of position. The only exception to this would be at QB.

Garcia Bronco
10-24-2011, 12:59 PM
Can anyone deny that the lack of off-season training has affected many of these teams. I can't recall seeing such terrible records from so many teams this far into the season? And I going to fall down laughing if Luck stays to finish his education

BroncoInferno
10-24-2011, 01:02 PM
And I going to fall down laughing if Luck stays to finish his education

He is a redshirt junior, so he should be wrapping up his degree this year anyway.

DrFate
10-24-2011, 01:13 PM
He is a redshirt junior, so he should be wrapping up his degree this year anyway.

I think his point was he can go back to school and not get drafted at all this year

Garcia Bronco
10-24-2011, 01:21 PM
He is a redshirt junior, so he should be wrapping up his degree this year anyway.

He's a Junior...if he was in his last year...he'd be a Senior regardless of the redshirt designation, but regardless he has another year of if he wants.

BroncoInferno
10-24-2011, 01:32 PM
He's a Junior...if he was in his last year...he'd be a Senior regardless of the redshirt designation, but regardless he has another year of if he wants.

Yes, he has another year of eligibility. My point is that he was a redshirt during his academic Freshman year, which means, academically speaking, he should be ready to take his degree after the spring. Your statement was that he might stay to take his degree. Unless he's behind on his credits, he should be one semester away from a degree. Of course, he could certainly still choose to use that extra year of eligibility.

BroncoInferno
10-24-2011, 01:36 PM
He you go, Garcia. From the horses mouth:

"I am committed to earning my degree in architectural design from Stanford University and am on track to accomplish this at the completion of the spring quarter of 2012", said Luck.

http://www.conquestchronicles.com/2011/1/6/1919168/andrew-luck-to-stay-at-stanford

Mile High Mojoe
10-24-2011, 02:05 PM
:notworthy

I'd freaking love it if EFX pulled the trigger on this kid. I love Tebow but RG3 is just too enticing not to consider. They'd definitely be able to draft RG3 somewhere in the first round.

Again, what Tebow has to do to save his job is win games. If he get the Broncos out of the top 10, he's done a good job. If he gets the Broncos into the mid teens, IMHO he's insured his starting position as the Broncos QB for 2012-13.

But if EFX see something in RG3, they may take him if all their defensive picks are off the board. In other words, they may take him simply because he's the highest rated player on their draft board when they pick in the first round.

See this type of talk and speculation is more to my way of thinking except that I'll enthusiastically root for Tebow to win games this season not so much to save his job but to accumulate wins. If more wins come as I believe they will Iíd love it even more if the Broncos could make a run at the AFC West. I donít think itís totally impossible because even San Diego has its problems and could meltdown.

Maybe Iím getting a little emotionally and exaggerating but damn guys weíve had 1 playoff win since the last Super Bowl. I would like to see a winning football today now, this season. And Kaylore youíre right thereís nothing wrong with thinking ahead about what players may or may not be available. I just chose to wait until the Broncos have been eliminated from playoff contention before I start thinking about next yearís draft.

I want a winner on the field today who knows what tomorrow will bring. I donít set in front of the TV watching the game with a calculator in one hand and a laptop computer in the other trying to figure out what our losing percentage is so I can figure out who are the next canít miss college draft picks. I watch the Broncos to see them win period.

Letís be winners on the field today and be all in with the team we have today. Once the season is over Iíd rather be in a position of strength and maybe advancing to the playoffs (granted itís unlikely) and building the team around a winner instead of a loser. A team or a group of fans that thinks racking up one of the worse records in the league to get the next group of canít miss college prospects doesnít make sense to me. Itís a doomed strategy, bad karma and only invites more of the same.

Remember all the hype surrounding McDaniels first draft and how many on this board said it was pure genius? I rest my case. Win today let the chips fall where they may.

Rolandftw
10-24-2011, 02:15 PM
Almost everyone wants the team to win this year. Very few expect it to happen. Hope I'm wrong and the team gets 8-10 wins. Hell, I'll take a Super Bowl win if it happens,

We're realistically two seasons away from being a winning team, if not longer.

If we get six wins, I'll buy a Tebow jersey. Might as well say, I'll buy a Ferrari.

elsid13
10-24-2011, 02:15 PM
He's a Junior...if he was in his last year...he'd be a Senior regardless of the redshirt designation, but regardless he has another year of if he wants.

He is a academic Senior and will graduate this spring. If he goes back to school it will be taking Master level classes. But that point doesn't mean anything because he already hinted that he is ready for the next challenge.

Rolandftw
10-24-2011, 02:19 PM
The only way Luck returns to school is if he doesn't like the idea of playing for the team that has the #1 pick. Like the Colts, if he's sitting for 2-3 seasons.

Guess he could return if he doesn't win the national championship this season and wants to come back one more year for it.

epicSocialism4tw
10-24-2011, 03:18 PM
I'd hate for us to give up on Tebow and draft Griffin, who I view as another somewhat project.
I say if we can't take Luck, don't draft a QB.

Yeah, Griffin is a lateral move. He needs work and he hasnt filled out his frame yet. I'd be afraid that he'd be broken.