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DarkHorse
10-23-2011, 05:46 PM
Qtr 1-3

Comp-Att: 3-8
Pass Yds: 24
TD-INT: 0-0
Passer Rating: 45.8
Rush Yds: 48

Qtr 4

Comp-Att: 10-19
Pass Yds: 137
TD-INT: 2-0
Passer Rating:111.1
Rush Yds: 17

MacGruder
10-23-2011, 05:55 PM
Do Orton too...

I am telling you.. both Orton and Tebow do the same thing.. play ultra conservative until the game is lost then try to pull it out finally playing aggressively.

This is why I think it is the coaches.

Difference is Tebow can pull the games out and Orton can't.

oubronco
10-23-2011, 05:56 PM
Don't forget that 2 of those early passes should've been picks and one of them a pick 6

At least he didn't go into the tank and stay there like Orton

jhns
10-23-2011, 05:58 PM
Don't forget that 2 of those early passes should've been picks and one of them a pick 6

At least he didn't go into the tank and stay there like Orton

That isn't even close to being correct. The one you keep claiming should have been a pick 6 wasn't even close to a pick. The guy run, jumped, and stretched. He never even grazed the ball... A near pick is one that hits a guy in the hands.

Gort
10-23-2011, 06:00 PM
Don't forget that 2 of those early passes should've been picks and one of them a pick 6

At least he didn't go into the tank and stay there like Orton

shoulda, woulda, coulda... and $5 will get you a cup of Starbucks half-double-decaf crapuccino (or whatever the F they sell since i don't know because i don't drink coffee)

oubronco
10-23-2011, 06:00 PM
That isn't even close to being correct. The one you keep claiming should have been a pick 6 wasn't even close to a pick. The guy run, jumped, and stretched. He never even grazed the ball... A near pick is one that hits a guy in the hands.

Whatever it hit him in the fuggin hands sugarcoat it all you want it was what it was

jhns
10-23-2011, 06:01 PM
Whatever it hit him in the fuggin hands sugarcoat it all you want it was what it was

No it didn't. The defender never touched the ball. Not even a little bit.

Rolandftw
10-23-2011, 06:03 PM
It went right through his hands. It wasn't really close to being a pick six though.

DarkHorse
10-23-2011, 06:05 PM
Yeah I don't play the shoulda, woulda, coulda game.


If you're gonna play that game - you could scrutinize every single throw by every NFL QB. Same for every TD catch by a WR - "He could have dropped that and then....."


Point is - the guy didn't pick the ball, and it never did touch his hands. You'll have to watch that one over.

Not defending the guys piss poor 3 1/2 qtrs of play but we also can't say "this should have happened" or "that should of happened".

It didn't - those are the legit real world stats. Asterisk them as you please I guess but they won't be official like the ones above.

jhns
10-23-2011, 06:06 PM
Should have made two FGs.

BroncoBuff
10-23-2011, 08:56 PM
Qtr 1-3

Comp-Att: 3-8
Pass Yds: 24
TD-INT: 0-0
Passer Rating: 45.8
Rush Yds: 48

Good thread, night and day is putting it mildly. And both TDs came in the last 2:44? Build him a statue...

But really ... three quarters with just 24 passing yards? Be honest, who fell off the bandwagon at that point?

BroncoBuff
10-23-2011, 08:57 PM
Should have made two FGs.

Yeah, but he nailed the one that mattered :thumbs:

Swedish Extrovert
10-23-2011, 09:17 PM
Tebows overall stats: 17/37, 240 yards, 3td, 0int .... 94.4 QB rating... something like a 101 Total QBR rating.

I'll repeat what I said on facebook: Tebow looks like he belongs in the NFL about as much as a tanning supply store belongs in Nigeria, but he gets the job done. Color me excited.

Cito Pelon
10-23-2011, 11:58 PM
Don't forget that 2 of those early passes should've been picks and one of them a pick 6

At least he didn't go into the tank and stay there like Orton

He's a confident guy with excellent athletic ability. Like Tebow said himself, "If you're not confident, you've already lost." I think he'll settle down a little bit and throw better. He has the potential to be more consistent passing, obviously needs to get starts and practice with the first teamers. Several drops, and not much separation by receivers hurt. He might have had a better game if Lloyd was still on the team getting some separation.

Cito Pelon
10-24-2011, 12:02 AM
Yeah, but he nailed the one that mattered :thumbs:

No thanks to the coaching staff. Jebus, I was wondering if they thought the ball was at the 24 instead of the 34.

cutthemdown
10-24-2011, 02:07 AM
Tebow has a lot to learn but the fact he is a gamer is funner to watch then Orton.

Atwater His Ass
10-24-2011, 02:12 AM
The guy instills belief in his teammates when the chips are down. From a young QB and leader, there is not much more you can ask. He can fix his mechanics, he can learn to read defenses and make better throws. His coaches also don't help him with their playcalling. He never gives up. I'll take what Tebow offers every day of the week.

dsmoot
10-24-2011, 02:56 AM
Do Orton too...

I am telling you.. both Orton and Tebow do the same thing.. play ultra conservative until the game is lost then try to pull it out finally playing aggressively.

This is why I think it is the coaches.

Difference is Tebow can pull the games out and Orton can't.

Sounds like the Dan Reeves game plan

Atwater His Ass
10-24-2011, 03:29 AM
In that vein, I would say Fox has to go. It's obvious this team is going to move forward with Tebow, which means Fox just isn't the guy.

We need to get a coach in that has the innovation to move this offense forward by taking advantage of Tebow. Fox and probably McCoy, just aren't those guys.

tsiguy96
10-24-2011, 04:17 AM
In that vein, I would say Fox has to go. It's obvious this team is going to move forward with Tebow, which means Fox just isn't the guy.

We need to get a coach in that has the innovation to move this offense forward by taking advantage of Tebow. Fox and probably McCoy, just aren't those guys.

fox could end up being the perfect coach though, a defensive guy who has a QB like this. pittsburgh like.

GreatBronco16
10-24-2011, 04:19 AM
Whatever it hit him in the fuggin hands sugarcoat it all you want it was what it was

You are exactly right. It was an incomplete pass.

ColoradoDarin
10-24-2011, 04:47 AM
Don't forget that 2 of those early passes should've been picks and one of them a pick 6

At least he didn't go into the tank and stay there like Orton

We'll count the pass that hit DT in the belly as a catch too, and we'll count the pass that almost was completed to Royal (when Tebow was blasted releasing it) since it "hit him in the fuggin hands" about as much as the "pick 6" hit the defender in the fuggin hands.

This is fun, we'll start adding and subtracting all the stuff we want to!!

Yes, that first pass was a poor decision, and I think that scared McCoy into going run, run, QB draw, punt until he was forced to release the Tebow. This reminded me a lot of the first game last year in Oakland, except we pulled it out.

The game plan should be to get Tebow into a rhythm, or at least some confidence early on, then pound the run (though with Willis breaking his hand...).

tsiguy96
10-24-2011, 04:49 AM
@AdamSchefter
Of the six quarterbacks that made their first start of the season Sunday, Tim Tebow was the only one to emerge a winner..

Old Dude
10-24-2011, 05:14 AM
fox could end up being the perfect coach though, a defensive guy who has a QB like this. pittsburgh like.

I'm not sure, but I get a feeling that Tebow is so unconventional, and such a random factor, that he'll put up some points, one way or another, against almost anyone, but it will be a long time (if ever) before he gains enough consistency and accuracy to manage any kind of controlled offense.

If that's the case, then it makes sense to invest most of the prime talent into the Defense. Tebow's gonna do what he's gonna do, and it doesn't make a hell of a lot of difference who's out there with him. So Denver may as well build up the D (which we need to do anyway) to keep him in striking range.

tsiguy96
10-24-2011, 05:38 AM
Just to add to Tebow Fevor, Kerry Byrne of Cold Hard Football Facts emailed me with this last night: In four starts, Tebow now has two fourth-quarter comebacks from at least 13 points down. In John Elway's career, guess how many he had. Two.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/10/24/Week7/index.html#ixzz1bhbdzox9

2KBack
10-24-2011, 07:16 AM
Tebows overall stats: 17/37, 240 yards, 3td, 0int .... 94.4 QB rating... something like a 101 Total QBR rating.

I'll repeat what I said on facebook: Tebow looks like he belongs in the NFL about as much as a tanning supply store belongs in Nigeria, but he gets the job done. Color me excited.

Where the **** did those stats come from?

Tebow was 13/27 for 161 and 2 TDs

jhns
10-24-2011, 07:21 AM
Where the **** did those stats come from?

Tebow was 13/27 for 161 and 2 TDs

He included the second half of the Chargers game.

_Oro_
10-24-2011, 08:02 AM
Tebow is the kind of quarterback you build a DEFENSE around!

oubronco
10-24-2011, 08:04 AM
Tebow is the kind of quarterback you build a DEFENSE around!

Defense wasn't the problem yesterday they played pretty damn good

jhns
10-24-2011, 08:06 AM
Defense wasn't the problem yesterday they played pretty damn good

No one said it was...

ColoradoDarin
10-24-2011, 08:17 AM
Tebow is the kind of quarterback you build a DEFENSE around!

After we scored to make it 15-7, Champ Bailey came up to me and said, 'We're gonna get the ball back for you.'

From MMQB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/10/24/Week7/index.html#ixzz1biD8Kab9)

Tebow inspired that kind of loyalty and belief at Nease and UF. We saw it last year in his few starts. We saw it last week in the 2nd half. We saw it yesterday.

Any team led by Tim Tebow will run through brick walls for each other.

cutthemdown
10-26-2011, 11:39 PM
Broncos should keep Fox around at least 3 yrs to get some stability going. When we gather some more talent, then he fails, then maybe look elsewhere.