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ChampBailey24
10-17-2011, 08:34 AM
Per mike klis' twitter

ChampBailey24
10-17-2011, 08:34 AM
Breaking news: @MikeKlis the Denver Broncos have traded WR Brandon Lloyd to the Rams

Tombstone RJ
10-17-2011, 08:35 AM
for what?

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 08:35 AM
for what?

My guess: a ham sandwich.

ChampBailey24
10-17-2011, 08:35 AM
for what?

No details yet

BroncoBen
10-17-2011, 08:36 AM
Yeah.... hopefully a decent draft pick.

gyldenlove
10-17-2011, 08:36 AM
For Josh Mcdaniels

Archer81
10-17-2011, 08:36 AM
Steven Jackson? Danny Amendola? James Laurinitis? 5th round pick?

The suspense is KILLING me...


:Broncos:

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 08:37 AM
Yeah.... hopefully a decent draft pick.

Based on the reports leading up to this, I seriously doubt it.

Chris
10-17-2011, 08:37 AM
hopefully we got Mcdaniels to bite big

Dr. Broncenstein
10-17-2011, 08:37 AM
For Josh Mcdaniels

My head would asplode.

HooptyHoops
10-17-2011, 08:37 AM
Rams totally need him....makes sense...hopefully our compensation is good.....please be good!!

ChampBailey24
10-17-2011, 08:38 AM
I like this since whatever round it's in will be close to the top of the round. The rams are 0-5

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 08:38 AM
hopefully we got Mcdaniels to bite big

Too bad McD isn't making the calls over there...

ColoradoDarin
10-17-2011, 08:38 AM
For Josh Mcdaniels

dang it, I was going to say that! :D

Any pick the Rams give us is going to be a better deal than most teams for the same round.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 08:39 AM
I like this since whatever round it's in will be close to the top of the round. The rams are 0-5

Well there's that at least, but when it turns out to be a 6th rounder it wont matter much...

Chris
10-17-2011, 08:39 AM
Where are you seeing this?

http://twitter.com/#!/MikeKlis

Not on Klis's twitter for me.

WolfpackGuy
10-17-2011, 08:41 AM
One could only hope for Chris Long

LOL

HooptyHoops
10-17-2011, 08:42 AM
I like this since whatever round it's in will be close to the top of the round. The rams are 0-5

True....are there any players that could be coming our way, or is it the general thinking that it is only going to be a draft pick?

strafen
10-17-2011, 08:42 AM
Do you guys think McDaniels may have influenced this trade?
Nah! ROFL! LOL Ha!

Chuck It Deep To Lloyd is now playing in St Louis! :strong:

WolfpackGuy
10-17-2011, 08:43 AM
Do you guys think McDaniels may have influenced this trade?
Nah! ROFL! LOL Ha!

If it nets at least a first rounder, you can pretty much guarantee he snuck into Devaney's office.

tsiguy96
10-17-2011, 08:43 AM
@JasonLaConfora
Brandon Lloyd is being dealt to the Rams. More to come on NFL.com and NFL Network

Archer81
10-17-2011, 08:43 AM
One could only hope for Chris Long

LOL


That soul shattering cry heard a moment ago was Howie Long.

Mwa ha...

:Broncos:

ColoradoBuff
10-17-2011, 08:43 AM
Where are you seeing this?

http://twitter.com/#!/MikeKlis

Not on Klis's twitter for me.



Same here....DP has an article up and close to deal.

RhymesayersDU
10-17-2011, 08:43 AM
Lindsay Jones' just says closing in on trade to Rams. Maybe Klis jumped the gun?

lostknight
10-17-2011, 08:44 AM
It looks like Klis might have deleted it.

Josh being here worries me. Lord knows that everything that man has done has screwed the Broncos. Somehow, I suspect this will as well.

Dr. Broncenstein
10-17-2011, 08:44 AM
If this deal comes to fruition, it would mean that McD has some say in the personnel decisions in St Louis. Which means there is at least one front office worse than ours. So things would be looking up.

strafen
10-17-2011, 08:45 AM
If it nets at least a first rounder, you can pretty much guarantee he snuck into Devaney's office.No doubt! :D

KO5K
10-17-2011, 08:45 AM
If this deal comes to fruition, it would mean that McD has some say in the personnel decisions in St Louis. Which means there is at least one front office worse than ours. So things would be looking up.

Not really, it makes a ton of sense for the Rams.

DarkHorse
10-17-2011, 08:45 AM
Just reported on NFLN

Gort
10-17-2011, 08:46 AM
Do you guys think McDaniels may have influenced this trade?
Nah! ROFL! LOL Ha!

Chuck It Deep To Lloyd is now playing in St Louis! :strong:

this thread is good. it would be better with that animated GIF of Lloyd ducking out of the way of a pass thrown to him. ;)

Archer81
10-17-2011, 08:46 AM
The Rams have possibly the weakest WR group in the league. If the compensation is good, then it works for everybody.

Enjoy St Louis, Brandon.

:Broncos:

ColoradoDarin
10-17-2011, 08:46 AM
If this deal comes to fruition, it would mean that McD has some say in the personnel decisions in St Louis. Which means there is at least one front office worse than ours. So things would be looking up.

We're number 2! We're number 2! We're number 2! We're number 2! We're number 2!

Boobs McGee
10-17-2011, 08:46 AM
yup, just got a fan mobile mafia update "NFL Network reports Brandon LLoyd to be traded to rams, details on the fan as released"

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-17-2011, 08:47 AM
this thread is good. it would be better with that animated GIF of Lloyd ducking out of the way of a pass thrown to him. ;)

http://media.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/49ers/archives/blduck.gif

KO5K
10-17-2011, 08:47 AM
Also, lol at trading away another pro bowler.

bronco militia
10-17-2011, 08:47 AM
Broncos receiver Brandon Lloyd was told he did not have to report to the team's facility today at Dove Valley, an indication a trade is near.

An NFL source said the St. Louis Rams appear to be the team in line to acquire Lloyd. It would fit as former Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels is the Rams' offensive coordinator.

The Rams need help as they are 0-5 and have the NFL's lowest scoring offense



Read more: Source: Rams closing in on trade for Broncos' Brandon Lloyd - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_19131036#ixzz1b3PwGxKp
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BroncoBrett
10-17-2011, 08:47 AM
McDaniels took the bait..Yes!!!!!

ColoradoDarin
10-17-2011, 08:47 AM
this thread is good. it would be better with that animated GIF of Lloyd ducking out of the way of a pass thrown to him. ;)

Edit: TeKO beat me to it, I'll leave it up because twice is still hilarious

http://gdfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/lloyd_ducks.gif

strafen
10-17-2011, 08:48 AM
If this deal comes to fruition, it would mean that McD has some say in the personnel decisions in St Louis. Which means there is at least one front office worse than ours. So things would be looking up.McD told the front office to go and get Lloyd.
CiDtL would help his overrated offense and help his credibility as an overrated OC...

Hercules Rockefeller
10-17-2011, 08:49 AM
Never thought they'd be in the running for the 1st overall when all was said and done at the end of the season since they're in the NFCW, but improving them at the Broncos' expense doesn't hurt.

BowlenBall
10-17-2011, 08:49 AM
http://gdfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/lloyd_ducks.gif

Something about that GIF is hypnotic... I could watch it over and over and over and over and over and over.....

SonOfLe-loLang
10-17-2011, 08:49 AM
We have pretty good personnel to run a wishbone, at least

Dr. Broncenstein
10-17-2011, 08:50 AM
Hey McJoshie: Let's make a deal for Royal, Orton, and Quinn while we're at it.

Tombstone RJ
10-17-2011, 08:52 AM
Let's start the guessing game... the Rams are desparate and ths is a move to save Spagnola's job so I'm thinking they give up a 3rd for Lloyd. A second would be an absolute steal and I don't think the Rams are that stupid.

bowtown
10-17-2011, 08:52 AM
Hey McJoshie: Let's make a deal for Royal, Orton, and Quinn while we're at it.

We should sign Maroney and throw him in as well for a conditional 3rd.

Crushaholic
10-17-2011, 08:52 AM
Who do we have left? Thomas? He can't even stay on the field. This sucks...:thumbsdow

Dr. Broncenstein
10-17-2011, 08:52 AM
Something about that GIF is hypnotic... I could watch it over and over and over and over and over and over.....

http://musformation.com/pics/tight_jeans.gif

Let me help you out.

Gort
10-17-2011, 08:52 AM
http://gdfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/lloyd_ducks.gif

Lloyd's been pretty good here in Denver, but his career has been up-and-down. he's been more outspoken about the QB situation than he should have been, and that left me feeling like he was a bit of a problem in the locker room. coupled with the reports that he's had confrontations with the coaching staff and his request for a trade, i'd say this trade is a good thing.

thanks for what you did here and good luck in St. Louis, but i won't miss you Brandon.

BabyTO
10-17-2011, 08:53 AM
piece of **** joining another piece of ****. now they can stink together again

BabyTO
10-17-2011, 08:54 AM
Lloyd's been pretty good here in Denver, but his career has been up-and-down. he's been more outspoken about the QB situation than he should have been, and that left me feeling like he was a bit of a problem in the locker room. coupled with the reports that he's had confrontations with the coaching staff and his request for a trade, i'd say this trade is a good thing.

thanks for what you did here and good luck in St. Louis, but i won't miss you Brandon.
up and down? lmao the only up he had in about 10 years in the nfl was last year. hes back to the bottom, where he spent 90% of the time the past 10 years

LetsGoBroncos
10-17-2011, 08:54 AM
I like this since whatever round it's in will be close to the top of the round. The rams are 0-5

Exactly

SonOfLe-loLang
10-17-2011, 08:55 AM
It still baffles me how much people value draft picks. Lets say Lloyd gets us a 4th. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
Check out the entire 4th round of the 08 draft: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NFL_Draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NFL_Draft)<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Point being, chances, overwhelmingly, suggest the player we get for lloyd won't give us ****. I'd prefer to have him around to help Timmy. If he's a malcontent, perhaps thats one thing, but whatever "value" we get for our incredibly acrobatic pro bowl receiver, it won't be fair. <o:p></o:p>

Tombstone RJ
10-17-2011, 08:55 AM
http://musformation.com/pics/tight_jeans.gif

Let me help you out.

thank you, you've now officially taken my mind completely off this trade...

Gort
10-17-2011, 08:55 AM
http://musformation.com/pics/tight_jeans.gif

Let me help you out.

they didn't know it at the time, but the inventors of the internet invented it pretty much just for this GIF. nobel prizes all around, i say!!!

CEH
10-17-2011, 08:55 AM
Hey McJoshie: Let's make a deal for Royal, Orton, and Quinn(s ) Dick and Brady while we're at it.

FYP

DeuceOfClub
10-17-2011, 08:55 AM
'Tebow Effect' in full effect.

:tebow:

Gort
10-17-2011, 08:57 AM
up and down? lmao the only up he had in about 10 years in the nfl was last year. hes back to the bottom, where he spent 90% of the time the past 10 years

up-and-down doesn't imply 50% up and 50% down.

it just means at least 1% up and at least 1% down.

Lestat
10-17-2011, 08:58 AM
the more draft picks we have the better we can move up and down the draft to take a player we really like.
if we had more picks this past draft we may have snagged a DL in the first round to go with Von.

It still baffles me how much people value draft picks. Lets say Lloyd gets us a 4th. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
Check out the entire 4th round of the 08 draft: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NFL_Draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NFL_Draft)<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Point being, chances, overwhelmingly, suggest the player we get for lloyd won't give us ****. I'd prefer to have him around to help Timmy. If he's a malcontent, perhaps thats one thing, but whatever "value" we get for our incredibly acrobatic pro bowl receiver, it won't be fair. <o:p></o:p>

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 08:58 AM
http://musformation.com/pics/tight_jeans.gif

Let me help you out.

Some women in this world have bodies that defy belief...

edog24
10-17-2011, 08:58 AM
Good riddance, he was a bright spot in last year's nightmare, he has sucked this year.

Hercules Rockefeller
10-17-2011, 08:58 AM
It still baffles me how much people value draft picks. Lets say Lloyd gets us a 4th. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
Check out the entire 4th round of the 08 draft: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NFL_Draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NFL_Draft)<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Point being, chances, overwhelmingly, suggest the player we get for lloyd won't give us ****. I'd prefer to have him around to help Timmy. If he's a malcontent, perhaps thats one thing, but whatever "value" we get for our incredibly acrobatic pro bowl receiver, it won't be fair. <o:p></o:p>

If only appropriate value was the main reason for this trade

HooptyHoops
10-17-2011, 08:59 AM
http://musformation.com/pics/tight_jeans.gif

Let me help you out.

LOL! No kidding!

bowtown
10-17-2011, 08:59 AM
Let's start the guessing game... the Rams are desparate and ths is a move to save Spagnola's job so I'm thinking they give up a 3rd for Lloyd. A second would be an absolute steal and I don't think the Rams are that stupid.

I'd be shocked if were anything higher than a 5th.

Dr. Broncenstein
10-17-2011, 09:00 AM
Some women in this world have bodies that defy belief...

You should see a childbirth.

DrFate
10-17-2011, 09:00 AM
I'd be surprised if it is anything higher than a 4th. Maybe it's all trade fodder for Luck.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 09:01 AM
It still baffles me how much people value draft picks. Lets say Lloyd gets us a 4th. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
Check out the entire 4th round of the 08 draft: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NFL_Draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NFL_Draft)<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Point being, chances, overwhelmingly, suggest the player we get for lloyd won't give us ****. I'd prefer to have him around to help Timmy. If he's a malcontent, perhaps thats one thing, but whatever "value" we get for our incredibly acrobatic pro bowl receiver, it won't be fair. <o:p></o:p>

There's always that chance you win the lottery and draft another Terrell Davis. But that aside you're right. And I don't believe we got a 4th for him to be honest.

Tombstone RJ
10-17-2011, 09:01 AM
tade... did someone say trade?

Bob's your Information Minister
10-17-2011, 09:01 AM
If you guys draft Andrew Luck it's just not gonna be fair.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 09:01 AM
You should see a childbirth.

Thanks for ruining the moment Doc...

epicSocialism4tw
10-17-2011, 09:02 AM
Lloyd was part of the disease that has infected the Broncos locker room and kept us at the bottom.

He has fought with the coaches all season about the offense and needed to be dealt.

Adios, cornrows.

BroncoInferno
10-17-2011, 09:02 AM
I'd be surprised if it is anything higher than a 4th. Maybe it's all trade fodder for Luck.

A 4th - if that indeed turns out to be the compensation - will do virtually nothing to help us put together a Luck trade package.

Tombstone RJ
10-17-2011, 09:03 AM
I'd be shocked if were anything higher than a 5th.

that would suck. Why give Lloyd away? I'm thinking the Rams are more desparate than that.

Tombstone RJ
10-17-2011, 09:04 AM
Lloyd was part of the disease that has infected the Broncos locker room and kept us at the bottom.

He has fought with the coaches all season about the offense and needed to be dealt.

Adios, cornrows.

you got any proof of this? Everything I've read about Lloyd is that he's a great lockerroom guy.

zdoor
10-17-2011, 09:04 AM
http://musformation.com/pics/tight_jeans.gif

Let me help you out.

I prefer this gif...

BroncoInferno
10-17-2011, 09:04 AM
There's always that chance you win the lottery and draft another Terrell Davis. But that aside you're right. And I don't believe we got a 4th for him to be honest.

We don't have a 5th (dealt in the Bunkley trade) or 6th (part of the Quinn trade) round pick right now. It wouldn't surprise me if it's for a 5th and a 6th, or maybe even just a 5th. I hope I'm wrong, as that would be pathetic compensation.

Dr. Broncenstein
10-17-2011, 09:04 AM
The Rams are trying to save their season with this move. I suspect we got significant compensation.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 09:04 AM
Lloyd was part of the disease that has infected the Broncos locker room and kept us at the bottom.

He has fought with the coaches all season about the offense and needed to be dealt.

Adios, cornrows.

I hope you are right. I definitely never liked Lloyd's demeanor, but a team needs talent to win.

v2micca
10-17-2011, 09:05 AM
Did the Rams already have their Bye week? Or is Lloyd going to get 2 bye weeks this year?

zdoor
10-17-2011, 09:06 AM
You should see a childbirth.

LOL... Never quite looked at a woman's privates the same since...

BroncoInferno
10-17-2011, 09:06 AM
The Rams are trying to save their season with this move. I suspect we got significant compensation.

I hope you're right. Klis reported that no one had offered better than a 7th this morning.

gyldenlove
10-17-2011, 09:06 AM
You should see a childbirth.

Is it the pooing, stretching or tearing you are refering to?

Crushaholic
10-17-2011, 09:06 AM
Good riddance, he was a bright spot in last year's nightmare, he has sucked this year.

The whole offense has sucked this year...all because of Orton sucking this year. This is just an indication that our new quarterback experiment doesn't work well with a talent such as Lloyd.

HooptyHoops
10-17-2011, 09:06 AM
Ah, it doesn't matter....The Broncos are just improving their draft position....trade a pro-bowl WR off of our team(1 win), to a team that is 0-5, therefor making their team better and the Broncos worse....we will improve our draft position! blah....

DrFate
10-17-2011, 09:06 AM
A 4th - if that indeed turns out to be the compensation - will do virtually nothing to help us put together a Luck trade package.

I realize you can't throw a 4th with the #8 pick (for example) and move up to #1

But if you have a handful of mid-round picks, this years #1, next years #1, Bowlen's fur coat, etc. - maybe that's the thinking?

epicSocialism4tw
10-17-2011, 09:07 AM
you got any proof of this? Everything I've read about Lloyd is that he's a great lockerroom guy.

Yeah, Charlie Casserly said yesterday on NFL Today that Lloyd had been having confrontations with the Broncos coaching staff, and the Denver Post has reported earlier in the season that Lloyd complained publicly about the style of offense and how he didnt think he's getting the ball enough.

Lestat
10-17-2011, 09:07 AM
but i bet you still hit it the same :strong:

LOL... Never quite looked at a woman's privates the same since...

Chris
10-17-2011, 09:08 AM
TurfShowTimes (http://twitter.com/#%21/TurfShowTimes) TurfShowTimes



Uh, don't buy those Brandon Lloyd <s class="hash">#</s>Rams (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Rams) jerseys just yet. Hearing reports of deal may not be true

Dr. Broncenstein
10-17-2011, 09:08 AM
Is it the pooing, stretching or tearing you are refering to?

The fact that usually both mom and baby survive. Actually... that anyone in the room including mom, baby, and anyone who bears witness to the act survives.

zdoor
10-17-2011, 09:08 AM
but i bet you still hit it the same :strong:

Of course....


BTW... Lived in Dothan for about 6 months...

ColoradoDarin
10-17-2011, 09:09 AM
It still baffles me how much people value draft picks. Lets say Lloyd gets us a 4th. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
Check out the entire 4th round of the 08 draft: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NFL_Draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NFL_Draft)<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Point being, chances, overwhelmingly, suggest the player we get for lloyd won't give us ****. I'd prefer to have him around to help Timmy. If he's a malcontent, perhaps thats one thing, but whatever "value" we get for our incredibly acrobatic pro bowl receiver, it won't be fair. <o:p></o:p>

Yeah, I mean you can't get good players in the 4th round....

Too early to tell on Orange Julius, but I think Elvis has done okay and we got some pretty good production out of woman beater and headcase Marshall before turning him into 2 2s, just for a few examples.

BroncoInferno
10-17-2011, 09:10 AM
I realize you can't throw a 4th with the #8 pick (for example) and move up to #1

But if you have a handful of mid-round picks, this years #1, next years #1, Bowlen's fur coat, etc. - maybe that's the thinking?

I think they had no intention of resigning him, and since we are 1-4 they figured they might as well get some table scraps for him. I doubt a Luck trade up has anything to do with that. Although, dumping our best WR very well could help us lock up the #1 pick outright.

LetsGoBroncos
10-17-2011, 09:10 AM
TurfShowTimes (http://twitter.com/#%21/TurfShowTimes) TurfShowTimes



Uh, don't buy those Brandon Lloyd <s class="hash">#</s>Rams (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Rams) jerseys just yet. Hearing reports of deal may not be true

Haha! Here we go again!

gyldenlove
10-17-2011, 09:10 AM
Yeah, Charlie Casserly said yesterday on NFL Today that Lloyd had been having confrontations with the Broncos coaching staff, and the Denver Post has reported earlier in the season that Lloyd complained publicly about the style of offense and how he didnt think he's getting the ball enough.

I can't believe people still listen to Charlie Casserly - the man knows nothing.

BowlenBall
10-17-2011, 09:10 AM
I realize you can't throw a 4th with the #8 pick (for example) and move up to #1

But if you have a handful of mid-round picks, this years #1, next years #1, Bowlen's fur coat, etc. - maybe that's the thinking?

You can burn his house
Steal his car
Drink his liquor
From an old fruit jar
Do anything that you want to do, but uh-uh,
Lay off of Pat Bowlen's fur coat....

Requiem
10-17-2011, 09:11 AM
TurfShowTimes (http://twitter.com/#%21/TurfShowTimes) TurfShowTimes



Uh, don't buy those Brandon Lloyd <s class="hash">#</s>Rams (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Rams) jerseys just yet. Hearing reports of deal may not be true

What!?

Rohirrim
10-17-2011, 09:11 AM
For Josh Mcdaniels

:spit:

Rulon Velvet Jones
10-17-2011, 09:13 AM
I'd respect word of those plugged into breaking NFL news than something called "TurfShowTimes".

BabyTO
10-17-2011, 09:13 AM
up-and-down doesn't imply 50% up and 50% down.

it just means at least 1% up and at least 1% down.
it aint up and down if youre at the bottom for 10 years and have a decent season once. its down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, up, down. hardly any up going on there..

BroncoInferno
10-17-2011, 09:13 AM
TurfShowTimes (http://twitter.com/#%21/TurfShowTimes) TurfShowTimes



Uh, don't buy those Brandon Lloyd <s class="hash">#</s>Rams (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Rams) jerseys just yet. Hearing reports of deal may not be true

...because at the last second the 49ers called in with a better offer? :pray:

epicSocialism4tw
10-17-2011, 09:14 AM
I can't believe people still listen to Charlie Casserly - the man knows nothing.

He made specific statements about this, so I dont see a lot of reason to doubt.

LetsGoBroncos
10-17-2011, 09:19 AM
Schefter just tweeted two sources said the deal is not done and there are a lot of hurdles

Requiem
10-17-2011, 09:21 AM
Schefter just tweeted two sources said the deal is not done and there are a lot of hurdles

FML.

gyldenlove
10-17-2011, 09:22 AM
He made specific statements about this, so I dont see a lot of reason to doubt.

Brandon Lloyd has recently been awarded a 1/3 share of the Nobel prize in chemistry in 2012.


That is what I would call a quite specific statement, that doesn't mean it is correct or that I know what I am talking about.

snowspot66
10-17-2011, 09:22 AM
I wish these assholes would stop trying to beat each other to the story and try to beat each other to the truth instead.

bowtown
10-17-2011, 09:22 AM
Schefter just tweeted two sources said the deal is not done and there are a lot of hurdles

I'd guess a renegotiated contract would be the biggest. I'm guessing that Lloyd is looking for an unrealisticly large payday.

Gort
10-17-2011, 09:22 AM
it aint up and down if youre at the bottom for 10 years and have a decent season once. its down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, up, down. hardly any up going on there..

so let me see if i've got this right.

you're taking me to task because i typed:

"up-and-down"

instead of:

"down-down-down-down-down-down-down-down-up-down"

???

congratulations on your nomination for internet ombudsman of the year award.

http://modernvespa.com/pix/uploads/someone_is_wrong_on_the_internet_815.jpg

Tombstone RJ
10-17-2011, 09:22 AM
Schefter just tweeted two sources said the deal is not done and there are a lot of hurdles

Hurdles being "we ain't giving our best WR away for nothing."

oubronco
10-17-2011, 09:23 AM
Hurtles being "we ain't giving our best WR away for nothing."

let's hope so

Requiem
10-17-2011, 09:23 AM
Hurtles being "we ain't giving our best WR away for nothing."

It could be contractual as well. If the Broncos want good compensation for Lloyd, the Rams and Brandon will have to agree to an extension. We won't be getting much for a half-year rental.

Gort
10-17-2011, 09:25 AM
Hurtles being "we ain't giving our best WR away for nothing."

how about?

Denver -> St. Louis: Lloyd
St Louis -> Cleveland: McD's wife
Cleveland -> Baltimore: original Browns franchise
Baltimore -> Denver: Ed Reed

everybody wins!!!

Hercules Rockefeller
10-17-2011, 09:26 AM
I'd guess a renegotiated contract would be the biggest. I'm guessing that Lloyd is looking for an unrealisticly large payday.

They're giving up a mid-round pick at best, this isn't one of those trades where the guy needs to sign a new deal to make it happen.

Hercules Rockefeller
10-17-2011, 09:26 AM
We don't have a 5th (dealt in the Bunkley trade) or 6th (part of the Quinn trade) round pick right now. It wouldn't surprise me if it's for a 5th and a 6th, or maybe even just a 5th. I hope I'm wrong, as that would be pathetic compensation.

Cleveland gave up a 5th in their deal with Bunkley that didn't go through. Denver gave up a conditional 2013 pick when they traded for him.

The 2012 pick in the Quinn trade was a conditional pick, that AFAIK, it has never been reported what the conditions were for pick or the possible rounds it could be in.

BroncoInferno
10-17-2011, 09:27 AM
It could be contractual as well. If the Broncos want good compensation for Lloyd, the Rams and Brandon will have to agree to an extension. We won't be getting much for a half-year rental.

Yep. At 0-5, you'd have to figure the Rams aren't going to trade for Lloyd unless he is in their long term plans.

BroncoInferno
10-17-2011, 09:27 AM
Cleveland gave up a 5th in their deal with Bunkley that didn't go through. Denver gave up a conditional 2013 pick when they traded for him.

Gotcha. Thanks for the correction.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 09:28 AM
Schefter just tweeted two sources said the deal is not done and there are a lot of hurdles

Quality reporting from Klis once again...

Requiem
10-17-2011, 09:29 AM
Cleveland gave up a 5th in their deal with Bunkley that didn't go through. Denver gave up a conditional 2013 pick when they traded for him.

The 2012 pick in the Quinn trade was a conditional pick, that AFAIK, it has never been reported what the conditions were for pick or the possible rounds it could be in.

Xanders said on the radio the other day he didn't think they had a 5th or 6th. *shrug* You're probably right though.

Lestat
10-17-2011, 09:30 AM
great little town. moved to Birmingham years ago but never updated the profile.

Of course....


BTW... Lived in Dothan for about 6 months...

Hercules Rockefeller
10-17-2011, 09:31 AM
Xanders said on the radio the other day he didn't think they had a 5th or 6th. *shrug* You're probably right though.

He really said he didn't think they had a 5th or 6th? LOL. You'd hope the GM would know for sure.

BroncoInferno
10-17-2011, 09:32 AM
Xanders said on the radio the other day he didn't think they had a 5th or 6th. *shrug* You're probably right though.

Just checked, we lost the 6th in the Joe Mays trade becuase J.J. Arrington did not make the final 53 man roster. Not sure about the 5th. I was thinking we lost that for Bunkley, but Herc is correct.

Hercules Rockefeller
10-17-2011, 09:33 AM
Just checked, we lost the 6th in the Joe Mays trade becuase J.J. Arrington did not make the final 53 man roster. Not sure about the 5th. I was thinking we lost that for Bunkley, but Herc is correct.

I had forgot about the Joe Mays' trade

DenverBroncosJM
10-17-2011, 09:33 AM
Yeah, Charlie Casserly said yesterday on NFL Today that Lloyd had been having confrontations with the Broncos coaching staff, and the Denver Post has reported earlier in the season that Lloyd complained publicly about the style of offense and how he didnt think he's getting the ball enough.

I saw this too

epicSocialism4tw
10-17-2011, 09:35 AM
Brandon Lloyd has recently been awarded a 1/3 share of the Nobel prize in chemistry in 2012.

That is what I would call a quite specific statement, that doesn't mean it is correct or that I know what I am talking about.

No, but your silly noodling isn't backed up by Denver Post reports either.

epicSocialism4tw
10-17-2011, 09:36 AM
I saw this too

Yeah, but some internet forum poster said not to trust Casserly, so don't trust it! ;D

Rulon Velvet Jones
10-17-2011, 09:41 AM
We've seen the results when McDaniels gets his guys. They seem to work out just fine.

Requiem
10-17-2011, 09:49 AM
Schefter reports that the Rams want a pick back from Denver if Lloyd doesn't re-sign there after this year. Seems like Lloyd wants to test Free Agency.

Hercules Rockefeller
10-17-2011, 09:53 AM
Schefter reports that the Rams want a pick back from Denver if Lloyd doesn't re-sign there after this year. Seems like Lloyd wants to test Free Agency.

Then it better be a 2nd or 3rd if they want a pick back. F that if they're giving up something like a 5th and want a 7th back, especially since they'd be the ones eligible for a comp pick.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 09:54 AM
Schefter reports that the Rams want a pick back from Denver if Lloyd doesn't re-sign there after this year. Seems like Lloyd wants to test Free Agency.

Hilarious!

HooptyHoops
10-17-2011, 09:54 AM
What is Lloyd's problem....he doesn't like what the Rams are offering....or that the Rams actually WANT him on their team?

broncocalijohn
10-17-2011, 09:54 AM
Yep. At 0-5, you'd have to figure the Rams aren't going to trade for Lloyd unless he is in their long term plans.

You think that Lloyd was thinking playoffs with teams like 49ers (that would have been pretty cool) and the Patriots interested in his services, but instead got on a team worse than the current Broncos! He might be going from **** to runny ****.

BroncoInferno
10-17-2011, 09:55 AM
Then it better be a 2nd or 3rd if they want a pick back. F that if they're giving up something like a 5th and want a 7th back, especially since they'd be the ones eligible for a comp pick.

This.

Why not just make it a conditional pick? 2nd or 3rd if they are able to resign him, 4th or 5th if he walks.

zdoor
10-17-2011, 10:04 AM
Mort is reporting trade is final.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 10:05 AM
Mort is reporting trade is final.

God I dread when the details are released. It will likely only confirm the soul-crushing despair I have regarding this team's management.

montrose
10-17-2011, 10:06 AM
Mort is reporting trade is final.

Well now we know Lloyd's staying.

Pony Boy
10-17-2011, 10:06 AM
I bet the Hillis side of the trade with Cleveland fell through .......

Pseudofool
10-17-2011, 10:07 AM
mortreport Chris Mortensen
Rams give up a 6th rounder in 2012 that could become a 5th rounder depending Lloyd's pass receptions

Dagmar
10-17-2011, 10:07 AM
Wow, we wanted rid of him badly.

edog24
10-17-2011, 10:09 AM
God that is a bad move

SonOfLe-loLang
10-17-2011, 10:09 AM
mortreport Chris Mortensen
Rams give up a 6th rounder in 2012 that could become a 5th rounder depending Lloyd's pass receptions

Wow, thats just phenomenal compensation for our top receiver. WTF was the point of this?

bronco militia
10-17-2011, 10:10 AM
a 5th or lower is what I expected

Lestat
10-17-2011, 10:10 AM
wow, he must be a absolute cancer right now. terrible value but i guess if he won't re-sign we didn't have much of a choice.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 10:10 AM
mortreport Chris Mortensen
Rams give up a 6th rounder in 2012 that could become a 5th rounder depending Lloyd's pass receptions

We are ****ed as an organization. Completely and utterly ****ed. Our FO is so ****ing clueless they couldn't find their own dicks. Next up: our entire draft and much of the next one given up for Andrew Luck; Tebow traded for a backup fullback...

LetsGoBroncos
10-17-2011, 10:11 AM
Wow, thats just phenomenal compensation for our top receiver. WTF was the point of this?

Look at it from the Broncos point of view. If you aren't in contention for the playoffs this year, and you have accepted he won't be back next year then do you get a draft pick or not...even if it's not a great pick? Yes

WolfpackGuy
10-17-2011, 10:11 AM
At least they didn't do a Boreton deal and went ahead and pulled the trigger.

oubronco
10-17-2011, 10:11 AM
mortreport Chris Mortensen
Rams give up a 6th rounder in 2012 that could become a 5th rounder depending Lloyd's pass receptions

That sucks

zdoor
10-17-2011, 10:11 AM
Wow... We couldn't get that as a comp pick??

Rulon Velvet Jones
10-17-2011, 10:12 AM
Lloyd must have been a real dick.

Rolandftw
10-17-2011, 10:12 AM
According to Elway the Bunkley trade was for a 2013 pick. Pretty sure, we only are missing the 6th rounder... which I guess we got back in this deal. Hard to be too excited about getting a 5th or 6th rounder. I was hoping for a 3rd or 4th.

Weird deal for St. Louis considering they're 0-4. You'd think a team like San Francisco would have been willing to throw a 4th rounder for Lloyd, but maybe the rest of the league views him as overrated.

Dagmar
10-17-2011, 10:12 AM
Practice is under way at Dove Valley, both Thomases and Royal are practicing.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 10:12 AM
At least McD got value when he traded pro bowlers away...

Rohirrim
10-17-2011, 10:13 AM
Wow, thats just phenomenal compensation for our top receiver. WTF was the point of this?

He must have really been ****ing up the lockerroom. That's the only explanation I can guess at.

Rulon Velvet Jones
10-17-2011, 10:13 AM
Tom Brady was a 6th rounder

zdoor
10-17-2011, 10:13 AM
To give a barometer on the deal... We gave up a 4th for Maroney...

Dagmar
10-17-2011, 10:13 AM
He must have really been ****ing up the lockerroom. That's the only explanation I can guess at.

Mile High Report -
I think we can say with near certainty that Lloyd was Silver's source in the TC article about Tebow being 4th best QB on #Broncos

Rulon Velvet Jones
10-17-2011, 10:14 AM
6th rounder > 11 games of a mopey Lloyd, ready to walk away (for nothing) from a losing team at the end of the season. Take it and move on. Happens in the NBA all the time.

Archer81
10-17-2011, 10:15 AM
Brandon Lloyd drama overwith.

On to the next thing.

:Broncos:

Crushaholic
10-17-2011, 10:15 AM
Look at it from the Broncos point of view. If you aren't in contention for the playoffs this year, and you have accepted he won't be back next year then do you get a draft pick or not...even if it's not a great pick? Yes

No...We just gave up our best receiver for nothing...ugh...

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 10:15 AM
Look at it from the Broncos point of view. If you aren't in contention for the playoffs this year, and you have accepted he won't be back next year then do you get a draft pick or not...even if it's not a great pick? Yes

Look at it from the point of view of a sane person not trying to make excuses for a clueless FO. We could've traded him before the season for much more. We could've kept him, helped our young, developing QB, and gotten a comp pick. Instead we got a pick so low it might as well not even exist for the chances that it will lead to a genuinely decent player much less a player capable of replacing Brandon Lloyd. FML

24champ
10-17-2011, 10:16 AM
Who cares what we got him for, he wasn't going to resign.

This team sucks and its time to stockpile picks and get some depth for the future.

Hercules Rockefeller
10-17-2011, 10:16 AM
To give a barometer on the deal... We gave up a 4th for Maroney...

It was a 4th for Maroney and a 6th

yerner
10-17-2011, 10:16 AM
Whatever. They sucked with Lloyd, they'll suck without him. Finally get to break out my Matt Willis jersey.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 10:16 AM
To give a barometer on the deal... We gave up a 4th for Maroney...

Jesus Christ...

DeuceOfClub
10-17-2011, 10:18 AM
Tom Brady was a 6th rounder

That's a myth.

zdoor
10-17-2011, 10:18 AM
It was a 4th for Maroney and a 6th

You're right, forgot about the 6th coming back. i still think this deal sucks. I can't imagine we wouldn't have gotten at least a 6th back as a comp pick...

edog24
10-17-2011, 10:18 AM
So is this much/any better than just cutting him? Don't we get his salary $ off the books immediately if we would have just cut him?

snowspot66
10-17-2011, 10:18 AM
Look at it from the point of view of a sane person not trying to make excuses for a clueless FO. We could've traded him before the season for much more. We could've kept him, helped our young, developing QB, and gotten a comp pick. Instead we got a pick so low it might as well not even exist for the chances that it will lead to a genuinely decent player much less a player capable of replacing Brandon Lloyd. FML

You have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. Stop throwing the word clueless around. Between our Front Office and you it only applies to you.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 10:18 AM
Who cares what we got him for, he wasn't going to resign.

This team sucks and its time to stockpile picks and get some depth for the future.

A 6th is virtually nothing. We basically just gave away the best player on our offense from last year. I can't believe you people. You'll go along with any retarded move it seems...

Dagmar
10-17-2011, 10:18 AM
Brandon Lloyd drama overwith.

On to the next thing.

:Broncos:

:strong:

Rolandftw
10-17-2011, 10:18 AM
My only guess is that Lloyd had to have gotten to the point where he was going to be a detriment to the team. Otherwise, there was no excuse for dealing him when you only get a sixth rounder back. Thomas, Decker and Royal... only Thomas as a Tebow type receiver honestly.

The Broncos talking to sources wanting a 3rd-5th rounder back didn't help either.

Dr. Broncenstein
10-17-2011, 10:18 AM
Wow we got raped.

UberBroncoMan
10-17-2011, 10:19 AM
Jesus Christ...

Yeah. McD was a "special" kind of GM.

Dagmar
10-17-2011, 10:19 AM
A 6th is virtually nothing. We basically just gave away the best player on our offense from last year. I can't believe you people. You'll go along with any retarded move it seems...

I think you need to chill a bit bro.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 10:19 AM
You have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. Stop throwing the word clueless around. Between our Front Office and you it only applies to you.

Go **** yourself. If you think this FO isn't the worst ****ing FO in the NFL you are either a retard or have their dicks in your mouth...

Archer81
10-17-2011, 10:21 AM
A few bits of insight (at least for me).

Lloyd may have been a locker room issue. If that is the case, good on Fox/Elway to move him before it grew any worse.

They must have alot of confidence in Decker, Thomas, Thomas and Green to move Lloyd. If Royal sticks around could be interesting to see how the offense develops the rest of the year.

A 6th round pick is not world beating compensation, but its something for a player we would have gotten nothing for past this year.

We can finally move on from that horrible "you cant see me" hands wave in the face the receivers have been doing the last 21 games.

:Broncos:

edog24
10-17-2011, 10:21 AM
Seems like people (experts) on twitter think we got worked, looks like we were looking for a 3rd or 4th and the Rams FO got the best of us. Big suprise.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 10:21 AM
I think you need to chill a bit bro.

No thanks. I'm sick of this team being run into the ground. I'm not going to "chill".

snowspot66
10-17-2011, 10:21 AM
Go **** yourself. If you think this FO isn't the worst ****ing FO in the NFL you are either a retard or have their ***** in your mouth...

Who's more likely to be right? Me pointing out obvious truth (that you don't know jack **** about what's really going on behind the scenes) or you grasping at the most absurd conspiracy theories whenever something doesn't go the way you think it should?

smoke4815162342
10-17-2011, 10:22 AM
Traded a Pro Bowl WR for a draft pick that will likely never make any impact.

WOW

Lloyd for 10 games is much better than a draft pick that will most likely never start 10 games in their short career.

If Lloyd was gonna be a locker room problem, why did his previous head coach trade for him, especially when that coach avoids those personalities at all costs?

The FO is just doing whatever they can to increase their chances of getting #1 pick. Pathetic...

24champ
10-17-2011, 10:22 AM
No...We just gave up our best receiver for nothing...ugh...

He had one good year, its pretty obvious Lloyd is looking for a big payday. Broncos aren't going to fork over the kind of cash he's looking for. Besides we got this guy coming back...


http://helmet2helmet.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/demaryius-thomas.jpg

Pony Boy
10-17-2011, 10:23 AM
29367

Rulon Velvet Jones
10-17-2011, 10:23 AM
Receivers grow on trees, anyway.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 10:23 AM
Seems like people (experts) on twitter think we got worked, looks like we were looking for a 3rd or 4th and the Rams FO got the best of us. Big suprise.

Do people need to be told by "experts" that we just got worked? Seriously?

In other news: the sky is blue, and gravity makes things fall down.

gyldenlove
10-17-2011, 10:23 AM
Holy ****ing dog****, the Ravens got a 5th round compensation pick when we signed Justin Bannan, does anyone really believe that Lloyd on the free market would have gotten less than the 5 years 22 million with 10 guaranteed?

What a great deal Xanders, what a ****ing great deal.

Houshyamama
10-17-2011, 10:23 AM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/The_Boris/GIFS/1251331835041.gif

SonOfLe-loLang
10-17-2011, 10:23 AM
Look at it from the Broncos point of view. If you aren't in contention for the playoffs this year, and you have accepted he won't be back next year then do you get a draft pick or not...even if it's not a great pick? Yes

No, i don't. I use him to help develop Tim. Getting a 6th round pick is essentially giving him away.

Jetmeck
10-17-2011, 10:24 AM
He had one good year, its pretty obvious Lloyd is looking for a big payday. Broncos aren't going to fork over the kind of cash he's looking for. Besides we got this guy coming back...


http://helmet2helmet.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/demaryius-thomas.jpg

OK, I'll when will he be back and whats the over/under on for how long ????

Archer81
10-17-2011, 10:24 AM
Traded a Pro Bowl WR for a draft pick that will likely never make any impact.

WOW


Considering the length of Lloyd's career, do you feel he is more likely to be the duck when the ball is coming Lloyd or the probowler Lloyd in the future?


:Broncos:

gyldenlove
10-17-2011, 10:24 AM
He had one good year, its pretty obvious Lloyd is looking for a big payday. Broncos aren't going to fork over the kind of cash he's looking for. Besides we got this guy coming back...


http://helmet2helmet.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/demaryius-thomas.jpg

And how long will he be back for? We are talking about a guy who has missed more than 50% of the games we have played since we drafted him.

Hercules Rockefeller
10-17-2011, 10:25 AM
S4L

That's the plan. Love it or hate it, but that is what's happening.

Pseudofool
10-17-2011, 10:25 AM
Look, the Rams could have the first pick in the fifth round. Lloyd is likely to make his receptions if he stays healthy.

I think this reflects more poorly on competitive teams (like Tenn.) who need recieves but wouldn't pony up a fourth. Lloyd's attitude and/or contract demands also probably played into his market value.

Something is always better than nothing. End of story.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 10:25 AM
Who's more likely to be right? Me pointing out obvious truth (that you don't know jack **** about what's really going on behind the scenes) or you grasping at the most absurd conspiracy theories whenever something doesn't go the way you think it should?

Thanks for giving me a new person to ignore. I've been on the fence with you. Not anymore. This was a terrible move by our FO. Anyone who defends it is either delusional or completely retarded. Conspiracy theories? Hilarious!

Goodbye.

zdoor
10-17-2011, 10:25 AM
We gave him up for what we likely would have gotten at the minimum as a comp pick... Hard to paint this as anything but we got hosed...

edog24
10-17-2011, 10:26 AM
Once, just once I would like to be suprised at some good trade value that our FO has produced. Have we ever been on the good end of one of these trades? I can only think back to the Portis trade, I think that might be the last good move we have made on the trade market.

Houshyamama
10-17-2011, 10:26 AM
S4L

That's the plan. Love it or hate it, but that is what's happening.

Sluts for Life? Interesting... didn't have you pegged like that.

gyldenlove
10-17-2011, 10:26 AM
A few bits of insight (at least for me).

Lloyd may have been a locker room issue. If that is the case, good on Fox/Elway to move him before it grew any worse.

They must have alot of confidence in Decker, Thomas, Thomas and Green to move Lloyd. If Royal sticks around could be interesting to see how the offense develops the rest of the year.

A 6th round pick is not world beating compensation, but its something for a player we would have gotten nothing for past this year.

We can finally move on from that horrible "you cant see me" hands wave in the face the receivers have been doing the last 21 games.

:Broncos:

We could have gotten a 5th round compensation pick if he signed a deal like Justin Bannan did in Denver.

SleepingTiger
10-17-2011, 10:27 AM
just heard on the Ticket we got a 6th rounder. possible 5th round if Lloyd makes certain number of catches

oubronco
10-17-2011, 10:27 AM
He had one good year, its pretty obvious Lloyd is looking for a big payday. Broncos aren't going to fork over the kind of cash he's looking for. Besides we got this guy coming back...


http://helmet2helmet.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/demaryius-thomas.jpg

Let's hope it's for more than 1 quarter

gyldenlove
10-17-2011, 10:28 AM
Once, just once I would like to be suprised at some good trade value that our FO has produced. Have we ever been on the good end of one of these trades? I can only think back to the Portis trade, I think that might be the last good move we have made on the trade market.

We haven't outright won a trade since Shanahan left, we got good value for Cutler and Marshall but so far the compensation has yet to show it was adequate.

TonyR
10-17-2011, 10:28 AM
Wow we got raped.

You mean we didn't get "significant compensation" like you predicted?

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 10:28 AM
Once, just once I would like to be suprised at some good trade value that our FO has produced. Have we ever been on the good end of one of these trades? I can only think back to the Portis trade, I think that might be the last good move we have made on the trade market.

What we got for Cutler and Marshall was pretty good value if you ask me. McD's trades were usually highly questionable, but at least he got decent value sometimes...

BlueandOrange32
10-17-2011, 10:28 AM
I smell Bowlen Budget
http://alistblogging.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Bad-Smell-highres.jpg

broncocalijohn
10-17-2011, 10:28 AM
No, i don't. I use him to help develop Tim. Getting a 6th round pick is essentially giving him away.

Our compensation pick would have been better than a 6th round pick. He wasnt costing us much money. There is no excuse for this trade at the cost of what we paid and what we got. If this is all it took, I am surprised 49ers, Pats or any contending team couldnt do better.

Hercules Rockefeller
10-17-2011, 10:28 AM
We could have gotten a 5th round compensation pick if he signed a deal like Justin Bannan did in Denver.

Only if Denver lost more FAs than they signed

People keep forgetting that portion of the comp pick formula, and yes ****ty FA signings coming in do help to cancel out larger signings going out.

TheDave
10-17-2011, 10:28 AM
I guess this means Lloyd was becoming a serious pain in the ass... Not sure why else you dump your #1 WR the week you are starting a new QB.

Honestly, I don't get this.

24champ
10-17-2011, 10:28 AM
And how long will he be back for? We are talking about a guy who has missed more than 50% of the games we have played since we drafted him.

That's obvious that he has to stay healthy.

BlueandOrange32
10-17-2011, 10:28 AM
I smell Bowlen Budget
http://alistblogging.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Bad-Smell-highres.jpg

Archer81
10-17-2011, 10:29 AM
No thanks. I'm sick of this team being run into the ground. I'm not going to "chill".


http://tinyurl.com/6z3tu8h


:Broncos:

Tombstone RJ
10-17-2011, 10:29 AM
That's a pretty weak ass trade IMHO. Now all the pundits on TV are going to be raving about how well the Rams did in this trade and what a joke the Broncos are for giving away their best WR.

Whatever, hopefully DThomas is back and 100% healthy. Add in the Fact that TE Thomas and Green are healthy and hopefully the offense starts scoring with Tebow.

Momentum
10-17-2011, 10:29 AM
Glad to see they aren't afraid of getting rid of people when needed.

This offseason will be very exciting.

Houshyamama
10-17-2011, 10:30 AM
Glad to see they aren't afraid of getting rid of people when needed.

This offseason will be very exciting.

I can't wait to see who we draft with that 6th round pick :spit:

edog24
10-17-2011, 10:30 AM
Glad to see they aren't afraid of getting rid of people when needed.

This offseason will be very exciting.

Or nauseating, could go either way.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 10:30 AM
Something is always better than nothing. End of story.

What we got was virtually nothing. The comp pick would've been on par with this crap.

Archer81
10-17-2011, 10:31 AM
We could have gotten a 5th round compensation pick if he signed a deal like Justin Bannan did in Denver.


Only if Denver lost more FA then they sign...


:Broncos:

Man-Goblin
10-17-2011, 10:31 AM
Are you ****ing kidding me? If we lost him in free agency wouldn't the comp pick be just as high or higher?

24champ
10-17-2011, 10:31 AM
That's a pretty weak ass trade IMHO. Now all the pundits on TV are going to be raving about how well the Rams did in this trade and what a joke the Broncos are for giving away their best WR.

Whatever, hopefully DThomas is back and 100% healthy. Add in the Fact that TE Thomas and Green are healthy and hopefully the offense starts scoring with Tebow.

It's the middle of the season, trade values aren't high at this time of the year.

If this was still the offseason, the Broncos would have gotten a better pick for Lloyd.

Turd_Ferguson
10-17-2011, 10:32 AM
Lloyd has been a bum his whole career. He has one good season and makes it to the pro bowl and everyone is acting like he is Randy Moss. Gus Ferotte was a pro bowler too. Means nothing. Good riddance Lloyd. My thoughts are summed up in this 10 second video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReYfu5E-hOE&feature=related

Crushaholic
10-17-2011, 10:32 AM
He had one good year, its pretty obvious Lloyd is looking for a big payday.

That theory only makes sense if he was in a contract year. Last year, he wasn't in a contract year. He just had chemistry with our former quarterback, both being former Bears. I guess this is definitive proof that Orton will never again suit up to be the starting quarterback for the Broncos...

oubronco
10-17-2011, 10:32 AM
At least Bradford has a WR who can catch the ball now

Oh well Suck for Luck in motion

Kaylore
10-17-2011, 10:32 AM
I'm ok with a sixth/potential 5th from a bad team for a guy who was going to walk for nothing at the end of the year. At least we didn't sign him to a big contract.

Chris
10-17-2011, 10:32 AM
I could step on Xanders's skull right now.

bowtown
10-17-2011, 10:32 AM
We could have gotten a 5th round compensation pick if he signed a deal like Justin Bannan did in Denver.

But we wouldn't have seen that pick until 2013. This way we'll probably end up with a 5th for him in this year's draft which is the higher value.

smoke4815162342
10-17-2011, 10:32 AM
The 6th round pick in the Brandon Lloyd-to-Rams trade will turn to a 5th round pick if he catches 30 passes the rest of the season.

per schefter

eddie mac
10-17-2011, 10:32 AM
The Broncos are now a ****, untalented, cheapskate, poorly run franchise so no surprises from me at all.

Let's get all the untalented ****s on the field and see if they can win via team spirit.

WolfpackGuy
10-17-2011, 10:33 AM
They pretty much wanted him gone.

A lot more will come out to this story, but it probably won't be until Lloyd signs his deal with whoever in the offseason.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 10:33 AM
That's a pretty weak ass trade IMHO. Now all the pundits on TV are going to be raving about how well the Rams did in this trade and what a joke the Broncos are for giving away their best WR.

And for once they will be right. This organization is a complete joke.

WABronco
10-17-2011, 10:33 AM
That's a pretty weak ass trade IMHO. Now all the pundits on TV are going to be raving about how well the Rams did in this trade and what a joke the Broncos are for giving away their best WR.

Whatever, hopefully DThomas is back and 100% healthy. Add in the Fact that TE Thomas and Green are healthy and hopefully the offense starts scoring with Tebow.

http://nooooooooooooooo.com/vader.jpg

Rolandftw
10-17-2011, 10:33 AM
A sixth round pick from the Rams is just slightly worth then a 5th round compensation pick. I don't know what the numbers would have to be for it to turn into a 5th rounder.

I was hoping for a 4th, expected it to be a 5th. It could still be a 5th and if it isn't, it isn't far from it.

We only got 'worked' if Lloyd genuinely wanted to be here and wasn't going to create problems.

And if that was the case, the whole league likely knew it which tanked Lloyd's value.

Smiling Assassin27
10-17-2011, 10:33 AM
The Rams are trying to save their season with this move. I suspect we got significant compensation.

all they're trying to do is win a mother----* game.

bowtown
10-17-2011, 10:33 AM
I'm ok with a sixth/potential 5th from a bad team for a guy who was going to walk for nothing at the end of the year. At least we didn't sign him to a big contract.

It's too bad we didn't trade him in the offseason. I think we could have pulled at least a 3rd.

lonestar
10-17-2011, 10:33 AM
No thanks. I'm sick of this team being run into the ground. I'm not going to "chill".

which means during the 1999-2005 sterch you were really bummed with day one picks and overpaying UFA most of which wer HUGE failures..:welcome:

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 10:33 AM
The 6th round pick in the Brandon Lloyd-to-Rams trade will turn to a 5th round pick if he catches 30 passes the rest of the season.

per schefter

Whoopty ****ing do...

edog24
10-17-2011, 10:34 AM
I don't see why we couldn't have gotten creative and packaged Orton with him to some crappy team for some D help and a better pick.

I think we are seeing moves of a FO that has no direction and very little experience, just floundering and grasping at whatever we can get as we drown.

ColoradoDarin
10-17-2011, 10:34 AM
just heard on the Ticket we got a 6th rounder. possible 5th round if Lloyd makes certain number of catches

So my rooting will be as follows - throw it to Lloyd and lose, k thanks Rams. With their team (and OC) this is a likely scenario.

maven
10-17-2011, 10:34 AM
We could have gotten a 5th round compensation pick if he signed a deal like Justin Bannan did in Denver.

In 2013, and you cannot trade comp picks.

Rolandftw
10-17-2011, 10:34 AM
Whoopty ****ing do...

What were you expecting? A 3rd rounder?

Archer81
10-17-2011, 10:34 AM
At least Bradford has a WR who can catch the ball now
Oh well Suck for Luck in motion


Half the time. Last season he was targeted 154 times.

It is kind of funny. The fanbase opinion of Lloyd in 2009 was radically different than it is in 2011.


:Broncos:

Pony Boy
10-17-2011, 10:34 AM
I guess this means Lloyd was becoming a serious pain in the ass... Not sure why else you dump your #1 WR the week you are starting a new QB.

Honestly, I don't get this.

I think it means Thomas and Decker are the future so might as well get them on the same page with Tebow. You have to get all the cancer so I think Royal is next.

maven
10-17-2011, 10:34 AM
I support the trade and acquiring more draft picks. I would like see more players moved before Tuesday.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 10:35 AM
which means during the 1999-2005 sterch you were really bummed with day one picks and overpaying UFA most of which wer HUGE failures..:welcome:

Pretty much. And it's only gotten worse each year...

Killericon
10-17-2011, 10:35 AM
Well, that's pretty lame.

Smiling Assassin27
10-17-2011, 10:35 AM
I don't see why we couldn't have gotten creative and packaged Orton with him to some crappy team for some D help and a better pick.

I think we are seeing moves of a FO that has no direction and very little experience, just floundering and grasping at whatever we can get as we drown.


dude, you can get as creative as you want, but if nobody takes your offer, then what's the point? this ain't fantasy football.

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 10:36 AM
I think it means Thomas and Decker are the future so might as well get them on the same page with Tebow. You have to get all the cancer so I think Royal is next.

Seriously, how does anyone believe that Thomas is the future? I love his talent, but he can't stay healthy to save his life.

bowtown
10-17-2011, 10:36 AM
I don't see why we couldn't have gotten creative and packaged Orton with him to some crappy team for some D help and a better pick.

I think we are seeing moves of a FO that has no direction and very little experience, just floundering and grasping at whatever we can get as we drown.

Because this isn't Madden and life isn't the same as your Xbox.

lonestar
10-17-2011, 10:36 AM
Our compensation pick would have been better than a 6th round pick. He wasnt costing us much money. There is no excuse for this trade at the cost of what we paid and what we got. If this is all it took, I am surprised 49ers, Pats or any contending team couldnt do better.

How do you think we would have been getting Comp picks..

We are going to be losing LESS FA than we will be picking up or getting.

TonyR
10-17-2011, 10:36 AM
I would almost prefer we kept him and made him ride the bench.

Gort
10-17-2011, 10:36 AM
I don't see why we couldn't have gotten creative and packaged Orton with him to some crappy team for some D help and a better pick.

I think we are seeing moves of a FO that has no direction and very little experience, just floundering and grasping at whatever we can get as we drown.

if Lloyd was becoming a locker room cancer, then getting rid of him now for a bag of peanuts is better than letting him spread his bad attitude to others. the Jets just went through this and they simply released the guy who was causing the problems.

oubronco
10-17-2011, 10:36 AM
Half the time. Last season he was targeted 154 times.

It is kind of funny. The fanbase opinion of Lloyd in 2009 was radically different than it is in 2011.


:Broncos:

Seriously have you watched the Rams this is a huge upgrade for them and if he only has to catch 30 balls for the pick to upgrade to a 5th then we are getting a 5th

Agamemnon
10-17-2011, 10:36 AM
What were you expecting? A 3rd rounder?

Anything less than a high 4th is a complete waste.

ColoradoDarin
10-17-2011, 10:37 AM
What we got was virtually nothing. The comp pick would've been on par with this crap.


I'll try to explain why this is better than a comp pick, but you're unhinged at this point so, whatever. Maybe for someone else's benefit.

Comp picks are at the end of a round, this pick will likely be at the top of the round.
You can't trade comp picks.
If we bring in free agents, that lessens the likelihood of getting a comp pick.

WABronco
10-17-2011, 10:37 AM
I would almost prefer we kept him and made him ride the bench.

Uhhhhh.