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epicSocialism4tw

10-16-2011, 04:22 PM

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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/figures-nazi-party-throws-support-behind-occupy-wall-street-movement/

mhgaffney

10-16-2011, 04:57 PM

Epic hates the 99% - yet calls himself a Christian.

DBruleU

10-16-2011, 04:58 PM

Epic hates the 99% - yet calls himself a Christian.

Please explain the Christian aspect - What does that have to do with disagreeing with the "99%?"

barryr

10-16-2011, 05:07 PM

The tactics of liberals and athiests. Holding those deemed religious to higher standards, most times to impossible one, while they have none, so that means to them they can do and say whatever and it is ok and acceptable. They can call people names, demean people's faith, attack their families, and those that are religious are expected to have a smile on their faces and just take it apparently. Such idiot "logic" they possess.

W*GS

10-16-2011, 05:08 PM

Whatever happened to "turn the other cheek"?

Apparently Christ is a Christian only when it's convenient to "Christians".

NUB

10-16-2011, 05:41 PM

Communists and socialists also showed solidarity with the civil rights movements during the 1950s and 60s. Some of Martin Luther King's closest friends were in fact Communists as FBI documents would later detail. King himself was a plagiarizer and an adulterer. Even the most contrarian of qualities mean nothing if one's goals are in the right place. Just saying.

DBruleU

10-16-2011, 05:41 PM

Whatever happened to "turn the other cheek"?

Apparently Christ is a Christian only when it's convenient to "Christians".

...and this applies now, how?

snowspot66

10-16-2011, 06:00 PM

http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/oldmanprotestor.jpg

W*GS

10-16-2011, 06:48 PM

...and this applies now, how?

"Judge not, lest ye be judged".

Something most "Christians" just glide right over...

DBruleU

10-16-2011, 07:20 PM

"Judge not, lest ye be judged".

Something most "Christians" just glide right over...

And what exactly are we "judging" here?

PS - You don't know what you're talking about.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

10-16-2011, 08:07 PM

http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/oldmanprotestor.jpg

Well?

Why aren't epicFail, UltimateDoDo and the other Koch mouthpieces slandering this guy yet? ???

epicSocialism4tw

10-16-2011, 08:24 PM

Rohirrim

10-16-2011, 09:14 PM

Communists, socialists and Nazis, oh my! :rofl:

epicSocialism4tw

10-17-2011, 03:50 AM

Communists, socialists and Nazis, oh my!

Liberal cuddlebuddies for revolution.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

10-17-2011, 03:58 AM

Liberal cuddlebuddies for revolution.

Sounds like they didn't offer "Intro to Political Science" at the evangelical diploma mill where you studied.

cutthemdown

10-17-2011, 05:40 AM

I agree with a lot of the things the protestors pissed off about. The banks do rip us off. They took our tax dollars then played it safe with the loans. We only bailed them out to keep the credit flowing. What I don't agree with are things like i should not have to pay my student loan back, or college should be free, or i shouldnt lose my house even though i am upside down.

The big problem is now they made it super bard to qualify for a loan. It went from stated income, bad credit, hardly anything down, to having to have lots of cash flow and really good credit.

I read we have a lot of technical jobs employers say no one qualified from. So many went to college to get degrees in service, management etc type degrees not enough engineer and math etc.

But I was thinking what companies really need to do is like China where they have big training programs. We need to get over thinking every good job needs to take 4-5 yrs of expensive college.

Maybe some type of tax incentive for companies that train empoyees then give them jobs. You could make the trainees sign something where they have to work so many yrs for the training.

Just seems like college is sort of overkill for some jobs.

epicSocialism4tw

10-17-2011, 05:57 AM

Sounds like they didn't offer "Intro to Political Science" at the evangelical diploma mill where you studied.

Thats pretty funny coming from a guy who studied guitar. Probably a 2 year degree in guitar performance or something like that.

I have degrees from state schools, and I studied polsci and economics as part of the liberal arts requirement for my bachelors of science. Got A's in all of those easy classes.

baja

10-17-2011, 06:45 AM

Thats pretty funny coming from a guy who studied guitar. Probably a 2 year degree in guitar performance or something like that.

I have degrees from state schools, and I studied polsci and economics as part of the liberal arts requirement for my bachelors of science. Got A's in all of those easy classes.

Are you able to suck your own dick too?

alkemical

10-17-2011, 06:51 AM

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I am a college sophomore.

My wife and I live within our means.

We save over 30% of our income.

We choose to stay out of debt by avoiding think we cant pay for.

This means no; smart phones, iPads, HD tv’s.

We drive a 97 Camry that sometimes runs.

We CHOOSE our financial situation.

We live the American Dream.

We are the 99%

Garcia Bronco

10-17-2011, 07:25 AM

The big problem is now they made it super bard to qualify for a loan. It went from stated income, bad credit, hardly anything down, to having to have lots of cash flow and really good credit.

As it should be. One of the issues that got us into this messing is financing people that bit off more than they can chew.

Garcia Bronco

10-17-2011, 07:26 AM

alkemical

10-17-2011, 07:29 AM

An athiest is as religious as a christian as a muslim.

Any -ism is a belief system with it's own dogmatic trappings.

Smiling Assassin27

10-17-2011, 07:40 AM

Perfect. Just perfect.

All is as it should be. Obama has endorsed the same thing and ideology that the Nazis and Socialists have. It must feel great to have the endorsement of the President and his party if you're the National Nazi Party of America. Well played, Dems. Well played.

Smiling Assassin27

10-17-2011, 07:42 AM

Epic hates the 99% - yet calls himself a Christian.

You wouldn't know the 99% if it bit you in the arse. Just because these fools call themselves 'the 99%', does not mean they are. This is what you get when you have a movement without an argument. False premises (if they present premises at all, that is) and foolish conclusions based on emotion and jealousy.

alkemical

10-17-2011, 07:45 AM

You wouldn't know the 99% if it bit you in the arse. Just because these fools call themselves 'the 99%', does not mean they are. This is what you get when you have a movement without an argument. False premises (if they present premises at all, that is) and foolish conclusions based on emotion and jealousy.

I hit up the #Occupy HBG, Lanc & York this weekend:

Was interesting. Yep, there were some young people - but to me that's a given. Smiley I sort of "ignore" them a little bit. But was interesting to talk to some of them and just gauge where they are at. Most of them don't have any "answers", but they are genuinely concerned for the future. From speaking with them, I get the impression that they put their trust more in Gov't, than "Corporate". I shared some information with them about the ideas of collusion between big $ & Gov't and while the perception of corporate greed is valid - don't forget to focus on empowering the citizens and taking responsibility for gov't. Also gave them some stuff to read to just "food for thought it": (As in, be a student of business. Learn how it works. Don't get stuck making bad deals due to lack of knowledge.)

Also noticed many 30's, 40's, 50's there, met some vets, etc.

It wasn't NYC that's for sure. Was just a lot of people who don't understand why things are so difficult. Many of the sentiments of "bail me out", is a direct response of the Wall St/Bank Bail outs. I can understand the frustration. In our "system", only the very upper, and very lower ends of our society get "much" of the benefit with a lower pay out.

I grabbed some literature. Seen that the AFL-CIO is trying to "co-opt" their way in (ala the way the Tea-Party was). But, much of the actual #Occupy literature actually put Obama to blame on problems as well.

Just interesting on how it doesn't always match up with what is being "sold".

Oh!!! One other quick thing: I met my first ever Agent Provocateur! It was interesting. I heard him with some of the other people there and I had invited him to come over and chat with me. He did, and he didn't stay long. But it was pretty interesting.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

10-17-2011, 07:46 AM

Thats pretty funny coming from a guy who studied guitar. Probably a 2 year degree in guitar performance or something like that.

There you go thinking you're Miss Cleo again.

alkemical

10-17-2011, 07:47 AM

There you go thinking you're Miss Cleo again.

Except Miss Cleo probably had a better hit % :)

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

10-17-2011, 07:47 AM

Except Miss Cleo probably had a better hit % :)

Ha! :yep:

Rohirrim

10-17-2011, 07:47 AM

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

10-17-2011, 07:50 AM

It seems to be a great many people in this world don't want their world taken over by globalist multi-nationalists and greedy banksters who will dictate their future for them.

Whereas folks like epicFail, UltimateDoDo, et al, are simply useful idiots in the service of the aforementioned banksters, globalists, and plutocrats.

Requiem

10-17-2011, 08:11 AM

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

10-17-2011, 08:37 AM

Which means you probably needed to take three or four classes at most in those areas. Not saying much.

Considering he managed to get through those classes without understanding such basics as the difference between liberalism and socialism, those classes must have been really easy. Ha!

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epicSocialism4tw

10-17-2011, 08:40 AM

There you go thinking you're Miss Cleo again.

Too close for comfort, eh? Ha!

Was it a one-year degree or two-year?

Garcia Bronco

10-17-2011, 08:40 AM

Liberlism and socialism are not mutually exclusive.

Rohirrim

10-17-2011, 08:46 AM

Liberlism and socialism are not mutually exclusive.

Are government subsidies to corporations socialism?

TonyR

10-17-2011, 08:53 AM

Just because these fools call themselves 'the 99%'...

LOL Are you suggesting "these fools" aren't part of the "bottom 99%"? Whether measured by "wealth" or "income"? Do you understand how percentages/percentiles work? Genius, you're part of the 99%!

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

10-17-2011, 09:09 AM

Too close for comfort, eh? Ha!

Was it a one-year degree or two-year?

::)

Did you gaze into some sort of crystal ball to divine my academic background, or did you simply make use of your direct line to Jesus?

At any rate, just FYI, I was pursuing graduate studies in counseling psychology when I was accepted to a world-renowned school of music.

epicSocialism4tw

10-17-2011, 09:12 AM

::)

Did you gaze into some sort of crystal ball to divine my academic background, or did you simply make use of your direct line to Jesus?

At any rate, just FYI, I was pursuing graduate studies in counseling psychology when I was accepted to a world-renowned school of music.

Ha!

A one-year degree?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

10-17-2011, 09:12 AM

LOL Are you suggesting "these fools" aren't part of the "bottom 99%"? Whether measured by "wealth" or "income"? Do you understand how percentages/percentiles work? Genius, you're part of the 99%!

I tried to explain this to him earlier, but he vehemently denied it.

I guess he's been doing the bidding of the 1% for so long he's suffering from some form of Stockholm Syndrome and believes he's one of them!

Ha!

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

10-17-2011, 09:15 AM

Ha!

A one-year degree?

Perhaps the evangelical diploma mill you attended only required one year of undergraduate study for admission to a master's program, but in my case I had to earn a four year degree first.

Ha!

epicSocialism4tw

10-17-2011, 09:17 AM

Perhaps the evangelical diploma mill you attended only required one year of undergraduate study for admission to a master's program, but in my case I had to earn a four year degree first.

I was talking about your degree in guitar, genius. Ha!

Requiem

10-17-2011, 09:18 AM

Considering he managed to get through those classes without understanding such basics as the difference between liberalism and socialism, those classes must have been really easy. Ha!

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Yep, and the fact of the matter is that very few colleges have ideology courses as introductory level. IIRC, I had to be enrolled in my POLS program and be at least a junior to take my course on ideology. He probably didn't even get that far. If they were just liberal arts requirements, they were 100-200 level courses, which means that is far as he got. Most higher level courses require you to be a part of the program to get admittance.

Garcia Bronco

10-17-2011, 11:57 AM

Are government subsidies to corporations socialism?

Maybe. Typically a subside is given as a kickback, that's what it is, to the lure the business to a geograpical area or to some senario that's a benefit for the Government.

mhgaffney

10-17-2011, 12:39 PM

alkemical

10-17-2011, 12:41 PM

That's the funniest post I've seen around here in a long time.

Dark -- but funny.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQuz5oWDplA6IBnDKv0wH02LPLZED4Nj xZc8X4HsppB4P4-Bcwi

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

10-17-2011, 01:12 PM

That's the funniest post I've seen around here in a long time.

Dark -- but funny.

Heh! :D

Hey Mark: Did you see this?

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=100652

ant1999e

10-17-2011, 05:44 PM

ant1999e

10-17-2011, 05:51 PM

Obviously, the rabid Right fears these Occupy protests greatly, given their paranoid efforts to mischaracterize them. Last week they were Marxists. This week, they're Nazis.

Actually, they're just a bunch of pissed off Americans

I guess I shouldn't just say "Americans" seeing that the movement has gone global.

It seems to be a great many people in this world don't want their world taken over by globalist multi-nationalists and greedy banksters who will dictate their future for them.

And all these little right winger tea partiests are simply chanting the mantras the Koch Brothers feed them, serving the interests of the multi-nationalists and against their own people, and their own country.

Are you **c*ing serious? There's not much of a difference between these guys and the Tea Party. Both groups are not happy about the way the country is headed. 99% is funded and fed by Soros.
Shyt, you guys must really fear the Tea Party labeling them as racists and crazies every day.
Seriously, you're a joke.

Rohirrim

10-17-2011, 08:08 PM

Are you **c*ing serious? There's not much of a difference between these guys and the Tea Party. Both groups are not happy about the way the country is headed. 99% is funded and fed by Soros.
Shyt, you guys must really fear the Tea Party labeling them as racists and crazies every day.
Seriously, you're a joke.

Soros is a good guy. Seem to have touched a nerve. :wave:

ant1999e

10-17-2011, 08:21 PM

Soros is a good guy. Seem to have touched a nerve. :wave:

Just think you're a hypocrite. There are way more negative threads on the tea party made by you libs than the one thread that shows communists supporting the OWS.

Bronx33

10-17-2011, 08:53 PM

We drive a 97 Camry that sometimes runs.

Bullshyt!!! camrys always run!!

epicSocialism4tw

10-17-2011, 09:43 PM

Just think you're a hypocrite. There are way more negative threads on the tea party made by you libs than the one thread that shows communists supporting the OWS.

Its funny. If you look at my original post, I just reported the facts. There was no spin, no nothing. Just a statement of fact and the video and link to extrapolate.

What's revealing is that even the liberals understand that this is a bad thing. Its revealed by how defensive they get about it.

We'd all be better off if they just admitted that these clowns are not worth our time, and we all moved on.

alkemical

10-18-2011, 07:58 AM

Exploiting anti-Semitism to destroy Occupy Wall Street (http://www.jewishjournal.com/opinion/article/exploiting_anti-semitism_to_destroy_occupy_wall_street_20111014/)

by MJ Rosenberg

An ugly old tradition is back: exploiting anti-Semitism to break the backs of popular movements that threaten the power of the wealthiest 1 percent of our population. It is being used to undermine the Occupy Wall Street movement, which has conservatives in a state of near panic.

I don’t know the first time the tactic was used, although it dates back almost to the beginning of the Jewish diaspora.

Perhaps its most famous use was by the viciously anti-Semitic Czar Nicholas, whose supporters concocted the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” at the start of the 20th century to prevent Russians from joining socialist movements and other reform efforts that were fighting to get the czar to cede some power to an elected parliament.

The Protocols were a forged document purporting to show that a cabal of Jews met regularly to solidify their supposed control of the entire world. According to the Protocols, Jews were behind socialist and liberal movements but also ran the banks and Wall Street. (A modern version of this ridiculous theme was a staple on Glenn Beck’s television program that ran on Fox News until being canceled this summer.)

The Protocols have had a long life, used by the czar, the Nazis, and even today by extremist and fringe Muslim groups opposed to the existence of Israel.

But they were primarily used not so much against the Jews as against reform and revolution. Linking a progressive movement to the Jews would destroy progressive movements and preserve the power of those in control.

Perhaps not surprisingly, a bizarre variant of this phenomenon is now being deployed against Occupy Wall Street.

Because utilizing anti-Semitism directly would not succeed in this country today, the reactionary defenders of the economic status quo are using the flip side of the coin: the fear of being labeled anti-Semitic. They are accusing Occupy Wall Street of anti-Semitism, relying on the old myth that Wall Street is Jewish and hence that opposition to Wall Street’s agenda is just opposition to Jews.

Not surprisingly, the first right-wing commentator to use this formulation in the Obama era was Rush Limbaugh. In 2010, Limbaugh told his radio audience that Jews might be having “buyer’s remorse” about having voted for President Barack Obama because “[h]e’s assaulting bankers. He’s assaulting money people. And a lot of those people on Wall Street are Jewish.”

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) condemned those remarks, labeling them a “new low” for Limbaugh. ADL National Director Abe Foxman explained that Limbaugh’s references to “Jews and money” were “offensive and inappropriate.”

Foxman continued: “While the age-old stereotype about Jews and money has a long and sordid history, it also remains one of the main pillars of anti-Semitism and is widely accepted by many Americans.”

And now the “age-old stereotype” is back, flipped on its head by right-wingers who seek to discredit Occupy Wall Street by accusing it of anti-Semitism, an accusation based on the idea, as Foxman said, “widely accepted by many Americans,” that Wall Street is Jewish.

One of the first conservatives after Limbaugh to use this tactic was the usually quite proper Ivy League conservative, New York Times columnist David Brooks. In an October 10 column dismissing the Wall Street protests as “trivial sideshows,” Brooks wrote:

Take the Occupy Wall Street movement. This uprising was sparked by the magazine Adbusters, previously best known for the 2004 essay, “Why Won’t Anyone Say They Are Jewish?” — an investigative report that identified some of the most influential Jews in America and their nefarious grip on policy.

Interesting. Brooks essentially is charging that a magazine few have heard of “sparked” the movement and, even worse, smearing the movement as anti-Semitic by bringing up an article that magazine published seven years ago about the Jewish “grip” on policy. Quite a reach.

And then yesterday the Emergency Committee For Israel, a far-right Republican group run by Bill Kristol, issued a video flat-out accusing Occupy Wall Street of anti-Semitism, with side swipes at leading Democrats (what a coincidence!) like President Obama and Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, who have sympathized with the movement and are therefore, by implication, probably anti-Semitic themselves.

The Emergency Committee’s evidence is presented in the video, which shows three anti-Semites and two anti-Semitic signs among the protesters. That’s it, out of a crowd of thousands. (Far be it from me to guess at the number of anti-Semites who might be at a Tea Party event, but they don’t define that movement either. Mass movements attract all kinds of people, some invariably unsavory.)

Story continues after the jump.

Rohirrim

10-18-2011, 08:26 AM

Sounds like you can look at an Occupy group and pretty much find anybody you want to find. That says something too.

alkemical

10-18-2011, 09:25 AM

That was my biggest impression Ro~ from the #OccupyHarrisburg - was the diversity of people there.

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ant1999e

10-18-2011, 11:10 AM

Sounds like you can look at an Occupy group and pretty much find anybody you want to find. That says something too.

Kinda like a Tea Party rally, strange...

alkemical

10-18-2011, 11:16 AM

http://occupywallstreet.tumblr.com/post/11614090432

Let me spell this out for you.

If an anti-Semite thinks #OCCUPYWALLSTREET is a good idea, that doesn’t mean that we think anti-Semitism is a good idea. Endorsements don’t go both ways. The same is true when it comes to the support we have received from unions and politicians.

In the same way, many white supremacists consider themselves to be Christians. But most of you would agree that Christians don’t endorse white supremacy, by any means.

I understand you are mostly being paid to spout illogical nonsense, so this will likely go through one ear and out the other. But to the rest: I would ask you to see this for what it really is, an institutional reaction to a legitimate threat to wealthy privilege. It’s a smear campaign from those who already know they are on the losing side of the argument — so they have nothing of substance to come back with.

After all, there is a vast amount of support within the movement for things like this — I think if Jewish people felt so threatened by our allegedly “anti-Semitic” movement, they wouldn’t be saying things like this about #OCCUPYWALLSTREET.

We have been clear from the beginning: we do not condone violence. Towards anyone. This movement is about equality and social justice, not the division and hatred that the elites and the media are paid to encourage.

(Note: this is the only post I intend to make on the subject. Things like this are intended to distract, and we have too many problems to face to be subjected to the reactionaries’ games. As always, my opinions are my own and this is not intended to be an “official statement” of any kind. — carton-rouge)

Spider

10-18-2011, 11:20 AM

Its funny. If you look at my original post, I just reported the facts. There was no spin, no nothing. Just a statement of fact and the video and link to extrapolate.

What's revealing is that even the liberals understand that this is a bad thing. Its revealed by how defensive they get about it.

We'd all be better off if they just admitted that these clowns are not worth our time, and we all moved on.

ROFL!ROFL!ROFL!ROFL!ROFL!

TonyR

10-18-2011, 12:14 PM

Sure, there is going to be hostile anti-Jewish feeling expressed at the margins of any populist movement, but a) it appears as if the people expressing these thoughts in the video are real outliers; b) it's obvious to me that most people who attend these rallies are angry about corporate greed and excessive CEO compensation (among other financial concerns) and not about Israel or perfidious Jews; and c) this movement has (like most political movements, actually) disproportionate Jewish representation. To say that there are occasional outbursts of anti-Semitism at Occupy Wall Street is not to say that Occupy Wall Street itself is antisemitic.

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-is-not-anti-semitic/246884/

TonyR

10-18-2011, 12:15 PM

The charge that Occupy Wall Street is shot through with anti-Semitism is dishonest and deceptive. But it’s built around a kernel of truth. There are a few Jew-baiters at Zuccotti Park in lower Manhattan, though they are marginal, particularly compared to the large numbers of Jewish activists taking part. Yet the leaderless, diffuse nature of the movement, in some ways its greatest strength, also makes it hard to police bigots, bullies, and cranks. This isn’t just about Jews—Occupy Wall Street’s ability to find some measure of unity and discipline amid a commitment to anarchy will determine whether it is able to grow beyond demonstrating widespread disaffection with the status quo.

http://www.tabletmag.com/news-and-politics/80922/one-percent/

Rohirrim

10-18-2011, 12:26 PM

Kinda like a Tea Party rally, strange...

Except the solutions are different. The Tea Party solution is to give the banksters and Wall Street pirates more tax breaks and more deregulation, which is exactly what they want.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

10-18-2011, 01:15 PM

That was my biggest impression Ro~ from the #OccupyHarrisburg - was the diversity of people there.

But Fox News is only showing hippies and anarchists, so that's all epicFail and the rest of the Wall Street Brownie Hounds know.

ant1999e

10-18-2011, 02:46 PM

Except the solutions are different. The Tea Party solution is to give the banksters and Wall Street pirates more tax breaks and more deregulation, which is exactly what they want.

Bullshyt, the Tea Party wants to reduce government spending, is opposed to raising taxes and for our country paying off its debts. The Tea Party also has a problem with how Wall Street does business. They were against bailing out the banks.

the 99% wants free handouts, free healthcare, free education, freedom from the Zionists who control the world and some want Communism.

Rohirrim

10-18-2011, 03:19 PM

alkemical

10-18-2011, 03:23 PM

epicSocialism4tw

10-18-2011, 03:32 PM

Bullshyt, the Tea Party wants to reduce government spending, is opposed to raising taxes and for our country paying off its debts. The Tea Party also has a problem with how Wall Street does business. They were against bailing out the banks.

the 99% wants free handouts, free healthcare, free education, freedom from the Zionists who control the world and some want Communism.

Its pretty funny to watch the far left liberal parade find whatever feeble excuses they can to explain away the fact that their little pet movement (loosely termed seeing as how there are paid protesters there) is linked with literal nazis (does it get any more racist than nazi's?) and literal communists and literal socialists and literal anarchists and literal anti-semites.

These are all the things they scoured the Tea Party movement unsuccessfully to find...only to find where they really showed up: in their own party.

But they knew that already. That's why they're not talking about it now, while it was all they talked about with the Tea Party.

Rohirrim

10-18-2011, 03:36 PM

Bullshyt, the Tea Party wants to reduce government spending, is opposed to raising taxes and for our country paying off its debts. The Tea Party also has a problem with how Wall Street does business. They were against bailing out the banks.

the 99% wants free handouts, free healthcare, free education, freedom from the Zionists who control the world and some want Communism.

Yeah. When Cheney was running the country, deficits "Didn't matter." Suddenly, Obama is elected and they're the most important thing in the world. When Bush was blowing money like a drunken sailor, how many protests were there? Zip. I just wish for once in my life the people on the Right would say, "Yeah. We blew it. We completely trashed the economy with our brain dead policies." Instead, they wait for the next president to enter office and blame it on him. Suddenly, it's "Shrink the government! Lower taxes! Deficits are bad!" Blah, blah, blah.

Would we be in this situation if Phil Gramm and his cohorts hadn't forced through the killing of Glass Steagle? (He's now a vice president at UBS investment bank, BTW) Would we be in this situation if Bush hadn't shoved through tax cuts for the rich while at the same time flushing 1 trillion on an unfunded war? Now is not the time to act holier than thou, although that's what the Right seems to excel at.

Here's what the 99% want in the end; A fair game. That's all. Like TR called it, a square deal.

Rohirrim

10-18-2011, 03:45 PM

Its pretty funny to watch the far left liberal parade find whatever feeble excuses they can to explain away the fact that their little pet movement (loosely termed seeing as how there are paid protesters there) is linked with literal nazis (does it get any more racist than nazi's?) and literal communists and literal socialists and literal anarchists and literal anti-semites.

These are all the things they scoured the Tea Party movement unsuccessfully to find...only to find where they really showed up: in their own party.

But they knew that already. That's why they're not talking about it now, while it was all they talked about with the Tea Party.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ14gNJYmAFI_WVV8y_bmT5iH23Dh7TV L4THlll16wo5y4rVxVNkg

http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp296/Detective_Ridiculous/racistteabagger.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_svHMgvFhF90/TEEO2oneFYI/AAAAAAAAAYk/iYaEDeN9SxU/s1600/teapartysign1sm.jpg

Hypocrite.

epicSocialism4tw

10-18-2011, 03:57 PM

Hypocrite.

Ha!

Anyone with those types of signs are viewed as troublemakers (usually from the left) and are run off.

In the wall street protests, the leftists hold hands with the communists and all share a good chant. They welcome evil into their tents, so evil defines them.

Rohirrim

10-18-2011, 03:59 PM

Ha!

Anyone with those types of signs are viewed as troublemakers (usually from the left) and are run off.

In the wall street protests, the leftists hold hands with the communists and all share a good chant. They welcome evil into their tents, so evil defines them.

Ha!

Your a liar and a fascist. Those signs are cheered by the tea party.

epicSocialism4tw

10-18-2011, 04:01 PM

Your a liar and a fascist. Those signs are cheered by the tea party.

Where?

Garcia Bronco

10-18-2011, 04:01 PM

It does seem like a majority of these protestors are marxcysts. They are too young to remember actual communism and the fact that it ALWAYS leads to absolute totalitarian dictatorships.

Garcia Bronco

10-18-2011, 04:02 PM

Where?

There aren't. He's FOS.

epicSocialism4tw

10-18-2011, 04:03 PM

It does seem like a majority of these protestors are marxcysts. They are too young to remember actual communism and the fact that it ALWAYS leads to absolute totalitarian dictatorships.

They don't have any perspective period. They are so spoiled by the greatest across-the-board quality of living that we have ever seen in this world, that they don't have any sense of perspective as to what other governments provide.

ant1999e

10-18-2011, 06:11 PM

boy are you wrong. go check it out for yourself.

I understand this, I was just making the point that he was generalizing the Tea Party but the same can be done to OWS. Showing his Hypocrisy.

ant1999e

10-18-2011, 06:11 PM

Ha!

Your a liar and a fascist. Those signs are cheered by the tea party.

And OWS are a bunch of Communists.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

10-19-2011, 02:44 AM

Yeah. When Cheney was running the country, deficits "Didn't matter." Suddenly, Obama is elected and they're the most important thing in the world. When Bush was blowing money like a drunken sailor, how many protests were there? Zip. I just wish for once in my life the people on the Right would say, "Yeah. We blew it. We completely trashed the economy with our brain dead policies." Instead, they wait for the next president to enter office and blame it on him. Suddenly, it's "Shrink the government! Lower taxes! Deficits are bad!" Blah, blah, blah.

Would we be in this situation if Phil Gramm and his cohorts hadn't forced through the killing of Glass Steagle? (He's now a vice president at UBS investment bank, BTW) Would we be in this situation if Bush hadn't shoved through tax cuts for the rich while at the same time flushing 1 trillion on an unfunded war? Now is not the time to act holier than thou, although that's what the Right seems to excel at.

Here's what the 99% want in the end; A fair game. That's all. Like TR called it, a square deal.

Bingo.

The right's capacity for hypocrisy and the double standard is breathtaking.

Your post also does a good job of exposing the fact that issues like deficits and debt reduction are ultimately nothing more than political footballs to the average rightard.

alkemical

10-19-2011, 06:19 AM

I understand this, I was just making the point that he was generalizing the Tea Party but the same can be done to OWS. Showing his Hypocrisy.

This is my problem WITH the Tea Party. I went to a few of the very first Tea Parties in my Area. I was hoping that it was this return to reclaiming the nation from special interest & corporate influence.

Instead, it just focused on "Liberal Democrat Spending" - but didn't focus on the actual problems with government - instead it was a finger pointing rally, and it refused to take ownership of the actual problem.

Then they ceremoniously marched down the street and dunked tea bags into the river. (I kid you not.)

It was one of the most shameful hijacks of American History for cheap political theater aimed at increasing a donation and voter base. Since then, i've obviously found out there are several Tea Parties. The Tea Party Express is about the only one that's true grass roots. The rest of them are bought & sold.

This was disappointing and that's why I endorse both the Tea Party's grassroots principles, but I also support OWS.

IMO, they are really two sides of the same coin. Sometime recently LABF showed some cartoon where it illustrated the overlap of the Tea Party & OWS.

If more people would really get their head out of their ass, and really look at the big picture - and combine the #'s - you'd see that there is a huge # of people that want things to change.

Here's the part that people don't want to admit/know/talkabout:

There is no one way to do this. Infact - it's going to be fraught with compromise. It's not some big ideological war you are winning. How the "Left" feels about Corporate influence, is exactly how the Right feels about big Gov't.

In the inbetween is where our answers are. We need Corporate to help reduce the cost and advance technologies. But we need them to responsible. They aren't willing to pay it forward as to what makes them a great company.

Where are the Milton Hershey's of today?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

10-20-2011, 07:16 AM

"Despite frosty relations with the titans of Wall Street, President Obama has still managed to raise far more money this year from the financial and banking sector than Mitt Romney or any other Republican presidential candidate, according to new fundraising data." (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/oct/14/rick-perry-texas-censorship-environment-report)

Attn: DramaLlama and Company:

Obama is your man!

After all, you clearly side with the financial and banking sector against the OWS movement.

TonyR

10-20-2011, 01:23 PM

It's not just hippies and the young supporting this movement...

In the National Journal poll, 56 percent of non-college-educated whites agree with the protesters; only 31 percent disagree.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/yup-blue-collar-whites-do-support-occupy-wall-street/2011/10/19/gIQALBC7xL_blog.html

L.A. BRONCOS FAN

10-20-2011, 07:19 PM