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Houshyamama
10-11-2011, 11:25 AM
Well?

Rolandftw
10-11-2011, 11:34 AM
I think @Minnesota @Kansas City @Miami and Kansas City are our most winnable games left. Most of those are on the road, where we haven't faired well the last few years. We might beat a team like the Jets as well.

I see us getting 3-5 wins maybe out of the last 11 with Tebow. The latter would be great going forward. Anything less then 3-8, and I think Denver pursues a QB in the draft.

Houshyamama
10-11-2011, 11:36 AM
I think @Minnesota @Kansas City @Miami and Kansas City are our most winnable games left. Most of those are on the road, where we haven't faired well the last few years. We might beat a team like the Jets as well.

I see us getting 3-5 wins maybe out of the last 11 with Tebow. The latter would be great going forward. Anything less then 3-8, and I think Denver pursues a QB in the draft.

Agreed. If Tebow doesn't at least 3 if not 4 or 5 games from here on out, I'll bet dollars to pesos he gets heavy competition in next years training camp. This is his chance, he better make the most of it.

TheDave
10-11-2011, 11:37 AM
I think he needs to win at least 4 (maybe 5) to put us out of reach of the top QB's come april... Some how, some way, (for better or worse) I think the kid will scrape out just enough...4

NFLBRONCO
10-11-2011, 11:42 AM
Hopefully 0 but, my guess 2. I like giving him a shot but, I also want option of getting a QB in 12 too.

NFLBRONCO
10-11-2011, 11:44 AM
Tebow will have to show me wins against Jets or NE type teams before I'm convinced he might be the answer.

UberBroncoMan
10-11-2011, 11:45 AM
11 games left.

4-5 with this team.

UberBroncoMan
10-11-2011, 11:46 AM
Hopefully 0 but, my guess 2. I like giving him a shot but, I also want option of getting a QB in 12 too.

Why the **** would you hope for 0? If anything you should hope for 11 because that means our QB problem is over.

I highly doubt Andrew Luck is even a possibility for us. Indy ownership already said they'd take him and sit his ass for 3-4 years.

ant1999e
10-11-2011, 11:49 AM
Tebow will have to show me wins against Jets or NE type teams before I'm convinced he might be the answer.

He doesn't need to show you shyt.

Cleo McDowell
10-11-2011, 11:52 AM
full blown tebowner blood rush away from brain 11-0 and superbol

Rohirrim
10-11-2011, 11:57 AM
I say two more. I predict Tebow is a TO machine. ;D

Drek
10-11-2011, 11:58 AM
I chose 4 because I think he energizes the entire team, adds enough offensive fire power, the OL is getting better every week, and the D will find life easier with a competent offense opposite them.

But I sure as hell don't know where they're coming from.

edog24
10-11-2011, 12:03 PM
I picked 7 because I'm a homer, I think we can win:

@Miami
@KC
Jets at home
@Vikings
Bears at home, they look bad
@Buff (Buff could be resting their starters by this point?)
KC home, could be meaningful for us, not for them.

Jets/Bears could beat us, I think we have a chance in Oakland, so those could be somewhat interchangeable.

I'm still not convinced that the Lions have what it takes for a whole season, but Suh and Fairley will be going nuts on our Oline I'm sure, plus champ on megatron is kind of a nauseating thought right now.

One can dream right?

TailgateNut
10-11-2011, 12:06 PM
Based on what I've "been told" I'm going with 11. Bawahaha

NFLBRONCO
10-11-2011, 12:07 PM
Why the **** would you hope for 0? If anything you should hope for 11 because that means our QB problem is over.

I highly doubt Andrew Luck is even a possibility for us. Indy ownership already said they'd take him and sit his ass for 3-4 years.

This is why I hope for 0

1. I would rather have Luck vs Tebow as my future. I realize fanbase has Bieber craze for this guy. I know Luck could bomb but, his upside is higher then Bieber Tebow.

2. As you pointed out Indy might take him. Well if we are 1-15 we might be in the running for Luck. I think Indy can win a few games. I think it would suck if Indy got another stud QB after having Manning.

After the thursday night Jet game Nov 17th we'll have an idea where we stand draft wise.

3. I want Luck but, I'd also rather get him outright vs selling the farm to get him we have lots of holes to fill.

4. This might be the only year we have a shot at a top QB so forgive me wanting to actually (hopefully) upgrade QB position.

Mogulseeker
10-11-2011, 12:07 PM
4

Williams
10-11-2011, 12:07 PM
Other than Miami and KC twice, itís a pretty brutal schedule from here on out. The optimist in me says 4 wins. Tebow is a born winner, of course. :)

Drek
10-11-2011, 12:20 PM
Based on what I've "been told" I'm going with 11. Bawahaha

You are quickly becoming the least constructive poster on this entire forum.

epicSocialism4tw
10-11-2011, 12:21 PM
I chose 4 because I think he energizes the entire team, adds enough offensive fire power, the OL is getting better every week, and the D will find life easier with a competent offense opposite them.

But I sure as hell don't know where they're coming from.

There's something else to be said about the team being "energized" with Tebow.

While I agree that Tebow's rugged play and effort are an inspirational motivator (especially to the RB's and the OL), I think that we can also say that the team was both awoken by the reality coming to pass that they themselves could be subbed if they were underperforming and that they were relieved by finally getting the change out of the way.

Ray Finkle
10-11-2011, 12:23 PM
3 tops....Miami, the Bears (they're line blows), and maybe either KC game.

strafen
10-11-2011, 12:27 PM
I say two more. I predict Tebow is a TO machine. ;D

After I've read your prediction, I think my 9 wins are more realistic now... Ha!

Jason in LA
10-11-2011, 12:27 PM
If they can win five games with him, then I say keep him around for next year and see what he can do. But if they only win a few games with him, then it's time to get another QB.

Yeah, that doesn't sound fair to expect a second year QB with limited game experience to win like that, but it is what it is. So he needs to win some games.

Houshyamama
10-11-2011, 12:31 PM
If they can win five games with him, then I say keep him around for next year and see what he can do. But if they only win a few games with him, then it's time to get another QB.

Yeah, that doesn't sound fair to expect a second year QB with limited game experience to win like that, but it is what it is. So he needs to win some games.

This is more or less my stance on it.

epicSocialism4tw
10-11-2011, 12:33 PM
I'll say this too...

If Denver gets a win in Miami, the entire complexion of the season changes. Confidence starts creeping in. The players start having confidence in the coaching and in Tebow. That kind of confidence carries over to practice and preparation. That kind of result will begin to make fans excited as well.

The following week, Detroit will come to Denver. Detroit will expect an easy win. That could very well be a trap game if Tebow plays well. A good performance from Tebow in that game would have the stadium shaking to its foundation.

RhymesayersDU
10-11-2011, 12:35 PM
You are quickly becoming the least constructive poster on this entire forum.

No, you're a bad fan. Every Bronco fan but me is stupid, so I'm going to bitch and moan and then publicly take my ball and go home.

Regards,
TGN

Dedhed
10-11-2011, 12:38 PM
I think 5 wins would exceed most realistic expectations. I think the Broncos will win 4 of the last 11.

Dedhed
10-11-2011, 12:40 PM
You are quickly becoming the least constructive poster on this entire forum.
He's Macgruber's counterpart, and now that the shoe is on the other foot he'll surpass Groob as the most disruptive poster on the Mane.

BroncoBen
10-11-2011, 12:40 PM
Heard a interesting take on sports radio.. if Tebow goes 6-5 the rest of the way, he keeps the Broncos starting job into next season.

But if he goes 1-10.. the Broncos are in the running for Andrew Luck.

If he goes 3-7.. the Broncos are in the running for Laundry Jones.

If these two QBs are off the Draft Board, are Barkley out of USC or Kellen Moore Boise State worth a top 10 draft pick? or is it better to go after a top 10 running back?

epicSocialism4tw
10-11-2011, 12:41 PM
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Houshyamama
10-11-2011, 12:44 PM
Heard a interesting take on sports radio.. if Tebow goes 6-5 the rest of the way, he keeps the Broncos starting job into next season.

But if he goes 1-10.. the Broncos are in the running for Andrew Luck.

If he goes 3-7.. the Broncos are in the running for Laundry Jones.

If these two QBs are off the Draft Board, are Barkley out of USC or Kellen Moore Boise State worth a top 10 draft pick? or is it better to go after a top 10 running back?

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epicSocialism4tw
10-11-2011, 12:45 PM
Also...

How the heck did Denver get the league's hardest schedule after being the second-worst team in the league last season? Ha!

Jekyll15Hyde
10-11-2011, 12:48 PM
This is why I hope for 0

1. I would rather have Luck vs Tebow as my future. I realize fanbase has Bieber craze for this guy. I know Luck could bomb but, his upside is higher then Bieber Tebow.

2. As you pointed out Indy might take him. Well if we are 1-15 we might be in the running for Luck. I think Indy can win a few games. I think it would suck if Indy got another stud QB after having Manning.

After the thursday night Jet game Nov 17th we'll have an idea where we stand draft wise.

3. I want Luck but, I'd also rather get him outright vs selling the farm to get him we have lots of holes to fill.

4. This might be the only year we have a shot at a top QB so forgive me wanting to actually (hopefully) upgrade QB position.

^This
I would much rather have Luck and chances at championships. With Tebow and where this team is in the rebuilding process, we are talking about 8-8 to 10-6 type teams at best over the next few years, sniffing around for the division title and not making it past WC weekend.

This lasts for about 5-6 years before he starts to loose his effectiveness as a runner due to mileage and hits. Having to rely on passing primarily aint gonna happen. The team hangs on for a few more years before finally ending the experiment. It will be a wildly entertaining experiment no doubt.

While I will enjoy being entertained by his improvisation, I am not satisfied with that outcome.

Rolandftw
10-11-2011, 12:54 PM
Also...

How the heck did Denver get the league's hardest schedule after being the second-worst team in the league last season? Ha!

Because most of the games are already determined years ahead of time. Denver was going to play the NFC North and AFC East no matter what their record was. Add in the division games, and you only have two games that varied based on record. Since we were last, we got a couple last place teams in Tennessee and Cincinnati. Unfortunately, both of those teams don't look like last place teams this season.

It's why SoS, is kinda a joke.

Rolandftw
10-11-2011, 12:57 PM
I'll say this too...

If Denver gets a win in Miami, the entire complexion of the season changes. Confidence starts creeping in. The players start having confidence in the coaching and in Tebow. That kind of confidence carries over to practice and preparation. That kind of result will begin to make fans excited as well.

The following week, Detroit will come to Denver. Detroit will expect an easy win. That could very well be a trap game if Tebow plays well. A good performance from Tebow in that game would have the stadium shaking to its foundation.

I agree with this. The Miami game is huge. A win, and the stadium's pumped for the Detroit game. A loss, and the suckforluck movement gets steam.

I hope it's dead two weeks from now.

epicSocialism4tw
10-11-2011, 01:00 PM
^This
I would much rather have Luck and chances at championships. With Tebow and where this team is in the rebuilding process, we are talking about 8-8 to 10-6 type teams at best over the next few years, sniffing around for the division title and not making it past WC weekend.

This lasts for about 5-6 years before he starts to loose his effectiveness as a runner due to mileage and hits. Having to rely on passing primarily aint gonna happen. The team hangs on for a few more years before finally ending the experiment. It will be a wildly entertaining experiment no doubt.

While I will enjoy being entertained by his improvisation, I am not satisfied with that outcome.

Andrew Luck does not play for the Denver Broncos. Maybe this kind of stuff should be talked about in the college forum?

SaveusElway15
10-11-2011, 01:03 PM
6/10 A two game Improvement...

rbackfactory80
10-11-2011, 01:04 PM
6 total


5 with the BOW

jhns
10-11-2011, 01:04 PM
11+

oubronco
10-11-2011, 01:05 PM
@ Miami ? Have they ever played well in Fla in an early game
Detroit L They are playing very well
@ Oakland L
@ KC ? They are starting to play alot better
NY Jets L
@ San Diego L
@ Minnesota ? AD will more than likely run over our defense
Chicago L I just don't see it
New England L
@ Buffalo L
KC ? This could be there only win


There's 4 games they could possibly win

It will all depend on if Defensive coordinaters figure out a way to shut Tebow down and he can't find a way to adjust and over come

Jekyll15Hyde
10-11-2011, 01:08 PM
Andrew Luck does not play for the Denver Broncos. Maybe this kind of stuff should be talked about in the college forum?

He would if we left Orton in! :yayaya:

epicSocialism4tw
10-11-2011, 01:08 PM
@ Miami ? Have they ever played well in Fla in an early game
Detroit L They are playing very well
@ Oakland L
@ KC ? They are starting to play alot better
NY Jets L
@ San Diego L
@ Minnesota ? AD will more than likely run over our defense
Chicago L I just don't see it
New England L
@ Buffalo L
KC ? This could be there only win


There's 4 games they could possibly win

It will all depend on if Defensive coordinaters figure out a way to shut Tebow down and he can't find a way to adjust and over come

This is the NFL...they could potentially win all the games.

maven
10-11-2011, 01:09 PM
I went with 3 games. I could see 5 max.

oubronco
10-11-2011, 01:10 PM
This is the NFL...they could potentially win all the games.

But reality is they won't

BroncoMan4ever
10-11-2011, 01:11 PM
i think they will probably get 4 wins more. however the better question isn't how many wins does Tebow lead them to. the better question is, how many wins does Tebow need to have so the team doesn't decide to go after a QB in the 1st round next year. basically i think Tebow needs to play well enough that the team is not drafting in the top 10. if they draft top 10 they will probably go after Luck, Barkley or Jones, if they are outside the top 10 they go BPA

NFLBRONCO
10-11-2011, 01:14 PM
If they can win five games with him, then I say keep him around for next year and see what he can do. But if they only win a few games with him, then it's time to get another QB.

Yeah, that doesn't sound fair to expect a second year QB with limited game experience to win like that, but it is what it is. So he needs to win some games.

Nice post

Even though I'd rather have Luck not sure if FO likes Jones at all.

I think Tebow needs this 11 games and all of 12 to see what he can do in reality. Having a shot at a top QB in 12 has to be considered very highly though even if fans love Tebow this year.

epicSocialism4tw
10-11-2011, 01:14 PM
But reality is they won't

Any given sunday, my friend.

That was my point. Things never play out like you thnk they will.

oubronco
10-11-2011, 01:15 PM
Any given sunday, my friend.

That was my point. Things never play out like you thnk they will.

This is true i guess hope is all we got

Popps
10-11-2011, 01:18 PM
13. (Playoffs. Hello!!)

epicSocialism4tw
10-11-2011, 01:21 PM
i think they will probably get 4 wins more. however the better question isn't how many wins does Tebow lead them to. the better question is, how many wins does Tebow need to have so the team doesn't decide to go after a QB in the 1st round next year. basically i think Tebow needs to play well enough that the team is not drafting in the top 10. if they draft top 10 they will probably go after Luck, Barkley or Jones, if they are outside the top 10 they go BPA

That's a pretty narrow way to look at it. The team stuck by Orton despite a losing record. They won't stick by a young QB who didnt even have a training camp to get ready with the new coach?

Tebow will be judged by the way he plays. The team is pretty bad right now. The pass defense is horrible, and we have like half a DT on the roster. Odds are against us reeling off a string of wins.

But what if Tebow is throwing for 250 at a 55% clip and running for 50 with 3-4 TD's a game by the end of the year regardless of the results? You consider the QB position locked up going forward and you draft defense all day long.

maven
10-11-2011, 01:45 PM
If the wins aren't there, and the teams finishes the season 4-12. The front office will have to consider all options, including QB, entering the draft.

Drek
10-11-2011, 01:59 PM
Also...

How the heck did Denver get the league's hardest schedule after being the second-worst team in the league last season? Ha!

Been telling people this all season. Our schedule has almost no real breaks on it. We've now lost both divisional home games we've played.

Our "worst v. worst" matchups against Cincy and Tennessee have yielded just one win.

Our other "worst" teams from last year, Buffalo and Minnesota, either look significantly better or are a horrible match up for us. Both are road games.

Our non-divisional home games are Lions, Jets, Bears, Patriots.

In short, all of our non-divisional games are either east coast early games, against horrible match-ups, against perennial powers, or some combination of the above.

RaiderH8r
10-11-2011, 02:01 PM
You are quickly becoming the least constructive poster on this entire forum.

His raging religious hate boner is obscuring his view.

I say Tebow will probably knotch a few (2 or 3) but Vickerson going down is another hit at a position that was already desperately ****ty and only going to get worse. Hopefully Marcus Thomas can play out of his ass and Mays figures out how to take an angle or two because our woeful D is going to get more work up the middle.

Rigs11
10-11-2011, 02:03 PM
wow 4 games is the expectation? pretty lofty goalsHa!i would expect more from the awesomness that is tebow

xznsocal
10-11-2011, 02:37 PM
That's a pretty narrow way to look at it. The team stuck by Orton despite a losing record. They won't stick by a young QB who didnt even have a training camp to get ready with the new coach?

Tebow will be judged by the way he plays. The team is pretty bad right now. The pass defense is horrible, and we have like half a DT on the roster. Odds are against us reeling off a string of wins.

But what if Tebow is throwing for 250 at a 55% clip and running for 50 with 3-4 TD's a game by the end of the year regardless of the results? You consider the QB position locked up going forward and you draft defense all day long.

IF Tebow was throwing for 250 at 55% and running for 50 with 3-4 TD a game the defense would have to be pretty atrocious and the running backs non-existent for us to not win more than 3 games, in your scenario.

MplsBronco
10-11-2011, 02:40 PM
8-3 with Tebow to finish 9-7, narrowly missing the playoffs. Then we can all lament at how Tebow should have been starting from week 1 and people will be really pissed.

If the D plays well and continues to get sacks/turnovers, I think we win the next 5. Yes, I said it.

MplsBronco
10-11-2011, 02:41 PM
I still think this team should/could be 3-2 with above average QB play.

epicSocialism4tw
10-11-2011, 02:45 PM
IF Tebow was throwing for 250 at 55% and running for 50 with 3-4 TD a game the defense would have to be pretty atrocious and the running backs non-existent for us to not win more than 3 games, in your scenario.

Thats pretty much where we're at.

epicSocialism4tw
10-11-2011, 02:46 PM
8-3 with Tebow to finish 9-7, narrowly missing the playoffs. Then we can all lament at how Tebow should have been starting from week 1 and people will be really pissed.

If the D plays well and continues to get sacks/turnovers, I think we win the next 5. Yes, I said it.

Bold!

I like it.

19Morton77
10-11-2011, 03:46 PM
I chose 4 because I think he energizes the entire team, adds enough offensive fire power, the OL is getting better every week, and the D will find life easier with a competent offense opposite them.

But I sure as hell don't know where they're coming from.

Dont forget the rest of the season favors at least 4 wins compared to more than 2 wins during the first 5 games. Only thing worse is 3 games on the road vs division opponents and teams like Lions and Pats are going to be tough at home. If we dont win 4 games out of 11, it better be all on the defense! I think you win 5 and some against tough opponents, Tebow might have found a home in Denver. It is all up to him now.

BroncoMan4ever
10-11-2011, 04:55 PM
That's a pretty narrow way to look at it. The team stuck by Orton despite a losing record. They won't stick by a young QB who didnt even have a training camp to get ready with the new coach?

Tebow will be judged by the way he plays. The team is pretty bad right now. The pass defense is horrible, and we have like half a DT on the roster. Odds are against us reeling off a string of wins.

But what if Tebow is throwing for 250 at a 55% clip and running for 50 with 3-4 TD's a game by the end of the year regardless of the results? You consider the QB position locked up going forward and you draft defense all day long.

the team is uninspired lately. we saw in 1 half of football how an infusion of energy and leadership could do for the team. the defense is vastly improved, the running game is working, the OL is getting better. the team is not in as bad a shape as the record would indicate.

with that in mind, if Tebow is throwing and playing at the rate you exampled him at, this team will win at least 7 games.

in my mind if he is playing well the team will win games. if he is not playing well they will lose.

i don't see an Orton like stat line where he throws for a ton of yards but the team still loses happening with Tebow. if Tebow plays well the team will win, if he doesn't they will lose.

Mile High Mojoe
10-11-2011, 04:56 PM
5 but I hope more.

razorwire77
10-11-2011, 05:00 PM
The team wins five games. They finish 6-10 and out of the Luck sweepstakes. Tebow shows enough to get another year to start. McCoy gets fired and the team hires an OC who designs an offense more suited to Timmy's strengths.

@ Miami W
Detroit L
@KC W
N.Y. Jets W
@SD loss
@ Minnesota L
Chicago W
NE L
@Buffalo L
KC W

peacepipe
10-11-2011, 05:05 PM
The team wins five games. They finish 6-10 and out of the Luck sweepstakes. Tebow shows enough to get another year to start. McCoy gets fired and the team hires an OC who designs an offense more suited to Timmy's strengths.

@ Miami W
Detroit L
@KC W
N.Y. Jets W
@SD loss
@ Minnesota L
Chicago W
NE L
@Buffalo L
KC W
you're dreaming. we're not going to beat chicago or the jets,we'll likely split with KC. 2 wins in the final 11 are more realistic.

BroncoMan4ever
10-11-2011, 05:06 PM
8-3 with Tebow to finish 9-7, narrowly missing the playoffs. Then we can all lament at how Tebow should have been starting from week 1 and people will be really pissed.

If the D plays well and continues to get sacks/turnovers, I think we win the next 5. Yes, I said it.

that answer took some giant dangling boulder balls to proclaim.

i like the confidence and hope you are right.

TailgateNut
10-11-2011, 05:11 PM
You are quickly becoming the least constructive poster on this entire forum.


Isn't he the "no limit/ gods gift to football guy"? Ask all the Teblowers and that seems to be their opinion. So, I'm behind him all the way to the SB. Run Timmy, Run.:yayaya:

TailgateNut
10-11-2011, 05:12 PM
No, you're a bad fan. Every Bronco fan but me is stupid, so I'm going to b**** and moan and then publicly take my ball and go home.

Regards,
TGN


Go **** yourself! I'm sure with some instruction from the other Tebonites you'll be able to figure out how to accomplish that feat!

epicSocialism4tw
10-11-2011, 05:13 PM
Isn't he the "no limit/ gods gift to football guy"? Ask all the Teblowers and that seems to be their opinion. So, I'm behind him all the way to the SB. Run Timmy, Run.

You should look at it practically.

If Tebow plays, your tickets are worth more to sell.

Rabb
10-11-2011, 05:15 PM
Now wait, I thought TGN said he would support whoever the starter was?

razorwire77
10-11-2011, 05:15 PM
you're dreaming. we're not going to beat chicago,we'll likely split with KC. 2 wins in the final 11 are more realistic.

Two games? Really? Considering how bad the Fins, Minnesota, and KC have looked. As far as Chicago goes, I don't know where this mythical "the Bears are good" rumor continues to perpetuate. The have a decent win over the Falcons, and followed it up by getting molested by the Saints, and going life and death with Carolina. They have the worst offensive line in the NFC, no true No. 1 receiver threat and an inconsistent QB (although Baby Jay looked good yesterday). Forte is a beast, and their defense is stout, but Denver has a legitimate shot in this game.

TailgateNut
10-11-2011, 05:17 PM
Now wait, I thought TGN said he would support whoever the starter was?


You didn't read my post? I said we were going to the dance. How much more support can i give?

Drek
10-11-2011, 05:33 PM
Two games? Really? Considering how bad the Fins, Minnesota, and KC have looked. As far as Chicago goes, I don't know where this mythical "the Bears are good" rumor continues to perpetuate. The have a decent win over the Falcons, and followed it up by getting molested by the Saints, and going life and death with Carolina. They have the worst offensive line in the NFC, no true No. 1 receiver threat and an inconsistent QB (although Baby Jay looked good yesterday). Forte is a beast, and their defense is stout, but Denver has a legitimate shot in this game.

Miami is an early east coast game. The record of all west coast teams in those games is ****ing horrible, ours is even worse. Their defense is actually solid in the front seven and their rookie bell cow RB will be back facing our weak run defense.

Minnesota, another road game. Against a team with a very stout front seven and an all world RB. Another bad match up for this club.

Chicago, same thing, though in Denver.

Those games are only winnable if our OL continues to make major leaps and proves the Raiders game to be an aberration while the defense also makes some improvements and shows themselves capable of shutting down good RBs.

Rabb
10-11-2011, 05:35 PM
You didn't read my post? I said we were going to the dance. How much more support can i give?

:strong:

sorry

razorwire77
10-11-2011, 06:06 PM
Miami is an early east coast game. The record of all west coast teams in those games is ****ing horrible, ours is even worse. Their defense is actually solid in the front seven and their rookie bell cow RB will be back facing our weak run defense.

Minnesota, another road game. Against a team with a very stout front seven and an all world RB. Another bad match up for this club.

Chicago, same thing, though in Denver.

Those games are only winnable if our OL continues to make major leaps and proves the Raiders game to be an aberration while the defense also makes some improvements and shows themselves capable of shutting down good RBs.

Fair enough, and you make some valid points. Denver's struggles against the Fins in road games is well known, but at least it won't be 97 degrees with 89 percent humidity. I think the Tebow pseudo reunion, combined with the fact that Miami is starting Matt Moore and that Sparano is basically a dead man walking bode well for the Broncos in that game.

I don't think Denver goes into the dome and beats Minnesota.

As far as the Chicago game, I think the Bears will most likely be eliminated from the playoffs by Dec. 11th., and as such their motivation might be lukewarm at best.

We'll see.

Popps
10-11-2011, 06:23 PM
IF Tebow was throwing for 250 at 55% and running for 50 with 3-4 TD a game the defense would have to be pretty atrocious and the running backs non-existent for us to not win more than 3 games, in your scenario.

Yo C! Been a long time. Good to see you.

JDB7821
10-11-2011, 06:46 PM
I voted 6. Call me crazy, but I think you guys beat the Lions too. Tebow & Knowshon vs. Stafford? That will be a game I definitely watch. I'd laugh my ass off if Tebow ends Stafford's win streak.

Broncoman13
10-11-2011, 07:08 PM
Tim Tebow isn't going to fix everything that is wrong with this team. He will make the games more fun to watch, but he isn't going to cause this team to win a bunch more games... I don't think. What I like going forward, Broncos football will be exciting. It will either be Tebow or Andrew Luck. Win win for me as a fan. Best case scenario is Tebow shows enough for the Broncos to get down to fixing the aging secondary and lack of talent at DT and MLB. Tebow fails and we take a big step backward and most likely sell the farm to get Luck. Today on the radio they suggested if the Panthers or Rams got that first pick and the Broncos were around #4 or 5, it would cost the 1st, 2nd, Champ and Decker. I doubt a team would want Champ, I would guess it would be Doom or Clady. Anyway you slice it, if Tebow wins 2 or 3 games and we will end up taking a step backward before we move forward. So be it, go Tebow. Go win 6 games and take the Broncos out of the mix for Luck!

AZorange1
10-11-2011, 07:20 PM
I'll say this too...

If Denver gets a win in Miami, the entire complexion of the season changes. Confidence starts creeping in. The players start having confidence in the coaching and in Tebow. That kind of confidence carries over to practice and preparation. That kind of result will begin to make fans excited as well.

The following week, Detroit will come to Denver. Detroit will expect an easy win. That could very well be a trap game if Tebow plays well. A good performance from Tebow in that game would have the stadium shaking to its foundation.

Good post

BroncoMan4ever
10-11-2011, 07:45 PM
this is Tebow we are talking about. the NFL might as well just put us down as a 12-4 team right now and ship us the Lombardi trophy. Tebow's got this **** on lock

TailgateNut
10-11-2011, 07:50 PM
Tim Tebow isn't going to fix everything that is wrong with this team. He will make the games more fun to watch, but he isn't going to cause this team to win a bunch more games... I don't think. What I like going forward, Broncos football will be exciting. It will either be Tebow or Andrew Luck. Win win for me as a fan. Best case scenario is Tebow shows enough for the Broncos to get down to fixing the aging secondary and lack of talent at DT and MLB. Tebow fails and we take a big step backward and most likely sell the farm to get Luck. Today on the radio they suggested if the Panthers or Rams got that first pick and the Broncos were around #4 or 5, it would cost the 1st, 2nd, Champ and Decker. I doubt a team would want Champ, I would guess it would be Doom or Clady. Anyway you slice it, if Tebow wins 2 or 3 games and we will end up taking a step backward before we move forward. So be it, go Tebow. Go win 6 games and take the Broncos out of the mix for Luck!


Huh? Are you kidding?

montrose
10-11-2011, 07:52 PM
I only went with a game, bad feeling the team isn't happy about the move but I'm really hoping they're more professional than I give credit for and that I'm wrong.

TailgateNut
10-11-2011, 07:54 PM
I only went with a game, bad feeling the team isn't happy about the move but I'm really hoping they're more professional than I give credit for and that I'm wrong.


What happened to all the "Tebow will save us"? What happened to Alpha's stats and MacGruders' SEC is better than the NFL? Why all the doubt now that Timmy has the reigns? Come on. He's da man, or is he?

rock
10-11-2011, 07:58 PM
Looking at the schedule:

Miami - W
Lions - L
Raiders - W (I think we take them this time)
KC - W
Jets - L (maybe, they don't look too hot this year)
Chargers - W (I think we take them too)
Vikings - W (tossup)
Bears - W (tossup)
Pats - L
Bills - L
KC - W

I see 6-7 wins

epicSocialism4tw
10-11-2011, 08:04 PM
I only went with a game, bad feeling the team isn't happy about the move but I'm really hoping they're more professional than I give credit for and that I'm wrong.

They played like they were happy about the move on Sunday.

That second half was the most fire I have seen from the defense since the Tennessee game.

ant1999e
10-11-2011, 08:46 PM
This is why I hope for 0

1. I would rather have Luck vs Tebow as my future. I realize fanbase has Bieber craze for this guy. I know Luck could bomb but, his upside is higher then Bieber Tebow.



I think this is a bunch of bullshyt. Our teams sucks. Orton sucks. We're like 4-22 with him. We aren't going anywhere with orton. We have a guy sitting on the sidelines who was one if not the greatest COLLEGE qb's ever. I understand he was good in college but what do we have to lose by playing him and seeing what he's got? We're alredy losing with orton.

Houshyamama
10-11-2011, 08:50 PM
I'm just stoked I don't have to watch Orton hold the ball for 5 seconds then throw it to the other team every Sunday. I don't have high hopes for winning a lot of games the rest of the year, but at least I don't have to watch Orton.

broncocalijohn
10-11-2011, 09:24 PM
Waffled between 4 and 5. But what I think are wins can still become losses. I am more worried about the Defense than Tebow and the offense. I think he can score 24 points a game. Games with a chance are Miami, Bears and one of 2 KC games. Throw in the Jets and Raiders and there are 6 games to win. Take at least 4 of them and maybe get 1 of the remaining tough 5 games and that equals a solid 5 games out of the last 11. Add Vikings and that is one more win for over .500. If not, close to .500 but this team was going to win no more than 7 to start. This gets them in that ballpark.

broncocalijohn
10-11-2011, 09:25 PM
I think this is a bunch of bullshyt. Our teams sucks. Orton sucks. We're like 4-22 with him. We aren't going anywhere with orton. We have a guy sitting on the sidelines who was one if not the greatest COLLEGE qb's ever. I understand he was good in college but what do we have to lose by playing him and seeing what he's got? We're alredy losing with orton.

I think you completely failed at his post. He wants to lose all games to go after Luck. Has nothing to do with Orton or even Tebow.

NFLBRONCO
10-11-2011, 09:56 PM
They played like they were happy about the move on Sunday.

That second half was the most fire I have seen from the defense since the Tennessee game.

I think Montrose needs to clarify because your correct about fire we showed.

MplsBronco
10-11-2011, 10:01 PM
I only went with a game, bad feeling the team isn't happy about the move but I'm really hoping they're more professional than I give credit for and that I'm wrong.

I think the defense is behind this 110%. I remember Bailey saying last year before Tebow got in that he hoped he would get the chance to play with him. Then I read a quote from Von after Sunday how he loved to see Tebow play. Tebow is the kind of guy that interacts with everyone on the football team. He will tie the 2 units together.

I think the apprehension from guys on offense; Decker, Kuper, Lloyd, are that they probably genuinely like Orton as a friend. Now, this shouldn't be first on their priority list but I think they probably feel bad for Orton and the way he has been treated by the fans.

I think they will get over it in a hurry though.

BroncoMan4ever
10-11-2011, 10:07 PM
This is why I hope for 0

1. I would rather have Luck vs Tebow as my future. I realize fanbase has Bieber craze for this guy. I know Luck could bomb but, his upside is higher then Bieber Tebow.

2. As you pointed out Indy might take him. Well if we are 1-15 we might be in the running for Luck. I think Indy can win a few games. I think it would suck if Indy got another stud QB after having Manning.

After the thursday night Jet game Nov 17th we'll have an idea where we stand draft wise.

3. I want Luck but, I'd also rather get him outright vs selling the farm to get him we have lots of holes to fill.

4. This might be the only year we have a shot at a top QB so forgive me wanting to actually (hopefully) upgrade QB position.

i get where you coming from and respect it. but my dream would be that Tebow comes in and sets the league on fire en route to a super bowl win and proves all his doubters wrong. but that won't happen. what i would like is that Tebow comes in and plays so well that the team is sold on him as our QB and then we can go about upgrading the DL, the LB corps, and our aging corners.

Dedhed
10-11-2011, 10:12 PM
I think you completely failed at his post. He wants to lose all games to go after Luck.

If there was any truth to this sort of take, there is no way Orton gets benched, especially in the middle of a game where he was completely inept. Let's be realistic.

TDmvp
10-11-2011, 10:13 PM
If there was any truth to this sort of take, there is no way Orton gets benched, especially in the middle of a game where he was completely inept. Let's be realistic.




Yup ...

ScottXray
10-11-2011, 10:17 PM
I think we will win 4-5 with Tebow. With the rest of the problems that is about all anyone could expect.

So 5-11 or 6-10 and that would be an improvement for this team.

I honestly think that it will take some time for the staff to adapt to Tebows strengths so it may be too soon to expect more than one win out of the next three games, but things should start to gel later on as he gets more reps with the starters. If we can play solid by the end of the year there should be enough for him to take us out of the Luck sweepstakes and establish that he is our future QB.

All this assumes that they don't keep trying to force him under center too much.

They especially need to start him in the shotgun for the first 4-6 plays and let him settle down and get the adrenalin under control. He is always very erratic at the start of games and they need to make him more comfortable by giving him a little comfort zone at the start.

epicSocialism4tw
10-11-2011, 10:21 PM
I think the defense is behind this 110%. I remember Bailey saying last year before Tebow got in that he hoped he would get the chance to play with him. Then I read a quote from Von after Sunday how he loved to see Tebow play. Tebow is the kind of guy that interacts with everyone on the football team. He will tie the 2 units together.

I think the apprehension from guys on offense; Decker, Kuper, Lloyd, are that they probably genuinely like Orton as a friend. Now, this shouldn't be first on their priority list but I think they probably feel bad for Orton and the way he has been treated by the fans.

I think they will get over it in a hurry though.

It has seemed to me over the course of Tebow's tenure here that the defensive players like him more than the offensive players do. Tebow's a tough guy. He likes to hit. He has the fiery personality of Brian Dawkins...defensive guys love that.

Skill players tend to be primadonnas. Rod Smith is gone. WR's rarely even commit to blocking anymore. I'll give Lloyd some credit because he'll risk his body for a catch, but he doesn't block for squat. I think that WR's are more concerned about scoring that paycheck these days than they are concerned about being team players.

Defensive players, however, get paid to do stuff like Tebow does. They get paid to make tough, physical plays that deflate the opposition.

I think that defensive players identify with Tebow. This afternoon, I saw Marcellus Wiley just gush about Tebow and how he believes that his toughness and fight will rally the team like Doug Flutie's did for Wiley's team.

epicSocialism4tw
10-11-2011, 10:22 PM
I think we will win 4-5 with Tebow. With the rest of the problems that is about all anyone could expect.

So 5-11 or 6-10 and that would be an improvement for this team.

I honestly think that it will take some time for the staff to adapt to Tebows strengths so it may be too soon to expect more than one win out of the next three games, but things should start to gel later on as he gets more reps with the starters. If we can play solid by the end of the year there should be enough for him to take us out of the Luck sweepstakes and establish that he is our future QB.

All this assumes that they don't keep trying to force him under center too much.

They especially need to start him in the shotgun for the first 4-6 plays and let him settle down and get the adrenalin under control. He is always very erratic at the start of games and they need to make him more comfortable by giving him a little comfort zone at the start.

Agreed.

Getting Tim in rhythm is important right now, and it almost seems like he needs to get his legs loose to get in rhythm.

lonestar
10-11-2011, 10:22 PM
Originally I thought this was a 5 win team this year..

Now it looks like 7 wins (6 more with Tebow) if we suffer no more IR players or starters missing a couple of weeks at a time..

That said we could win all of them except NE, DET and BUF.

Week 06
Bye WIN

Week 07
Miami Dolphins
@ Miami Dolphins
Sun, 10/23 at 11:00 AM MDT WIN

Week 08
Detroit Lions
Detroit Lions
Sun, 10/30 at 2:05 PM MDTloss

Week 09
Oakland Raiders
@ Oakland Raiders
Sun, 11/06 at 2:05 PM MST loss

Week 10
Kansas City Chiefs
@ Kansas City Chiefs
Sun, 11/13 at 11:00 AM MST WIN


Week 11
New York Jets
New York Jets
Thu, 11/17 at 6:20 PM MST WIN

Week 12
San Diego Chargers
@ San Diego Chargers
Sun, 11/27 at 2:15 PM MST loss


Week 13
Minnesota Vikings
@ Minnesota Vikings
Sun, 12/04 at 2:05 PM MST WIN

Week 14
Chicago Bears
Chicago Bears
Sun, 12/11 at 2:05 PM MST WIN


Week 15
New England Patriots
New England Patriots
Sun, 12/18 at 2:15 PM MST loss


Week 16
Buffalo Bills loss

Week 17
Kansas City Chiefs
Kansas City Chiefs
Sun, 01/01 at 2:15 PM MST WIN

NFLBRONCO
10-11-2011, 10:28 PM
If there was any truth to this sort of take, there is no way Orton gets benched, especially in the middle of a game where he was completely inept. Let's be realistic.

I don't see where either QB would win more then 6 games this year. Orton has played bad but, Tebow is still green exp wise so who knows how many wins we get or don't get with him esp on the road. Denver had to switch .

I want Luck here.

NFLBRONCO
10-11-2011, 10:31 PM
i get where you coming from and respect it. but my dream would be that Tebow comes in and sets the league on fire en route to a super bowl win and proves all his doubters wrong. but that won't happen. what i would like is that Tebow comes in and plays so well that the team is sold on him as our QB and then we can go about upgrading the DL, the LB corps, and our aging corners.

Nothing wrong with this here solid work.

montrose
10-11-2011, 10:34 PM
What happened to all the "Tebow will save us"? What happened to Alpha's stats and MacGruders' SEC is better than the NFL? Why all the doubt now that Timmy has the reigns? Come on. He's da man, or is he?

LOL While I do think the Broncos upgraded at the QB position this week, and his skillset alone can help make up for some of the team's other deficencies, he is very raw and needs reps to settle in as the starter. It's a bad team for sure, especially on defense so Tim's going to need to put up 25-30 points to give Denver a chance most Sunday's which is quite a daunting task for any QB let alone a virtual rookie. I didn't think the team would win another game this season with Orton at the weekly rate he was regressing and I've bumped the number up to 1 on his benching alone. If Tim shows significant progress next week against Miami I wouldn't be had pressed to stretch the win total up a few.

They played like they were happy about the move on Sunday.

That second half was the most fire I have seen from the defense since the Tennessee game.

There was a definite energy level at the game but the atmosphere and shifted to a somber one with a lot of the veterans feeling responsible that they've let Orton down and he's being unfairly blamed. Not a knock on Tim, who from all indications the players do like, but it's a very surreal feeling right now just listening to and watching the players react.

I think the defense is behind this 110%. I remember Bailey saying last year before Tebow got in that he hoped he would get the chance to play with him. Then I read a quote from Von after Sunday how he loved to see Tebow play. Tebow is the kind of guy that interacts with everyone on the football team. He will tie the 2 units together.

I would agree and disagree with a little bit of this Mpls. I do think its natural that defenses and offenses are separated and it wouldn't suprise me if a lot of players on D don't seem to care as much on whose playing with the O as long as points are being scored and (and this is where I think Tim can help bridge the team) keeping them off the field. That said, Champ was pretty vocal in his support of Orton this year too so I'm not sure which we to take it yet.

I think the apprehension from guys on offense; Decker, Kuper, Lloyd, are that they probably genuinely like Orton as a friend. Now, this shouldn't be first on their priority list but I think they probably feel bad for Orton and the way he has been treated by the fans.

There's a bit of that but beyond friendship, it's always about money. The skilled position players, IMO, will be the ones I'm most concerned about. Watch the replay of Tebow's TD and you can see he's celebrating with the OL , not the WRs. Lloyd wants to get paid, Decker was developing into a nice NFL WR and others like Eddie, Bay Bay, Julis, etc. will want their fair share of catches too. We'd love to believe it's just about winning with these guys but it's not. I don't think your going to see guys purposefully dropping passes or not blocking - but a natural frusturation can set in and that leads to lackadaisical play at times.

I'm hoping I'm all wrong on this but I continue to remind myself that if that many of these guys (maybe Tebow himself) are unlikely to be in Denver's long term plans. Lloyd will be on the 1st plane to Orton's new team or the squad that pays him the most cash, McGahee - while a great pickup - is going to be a 30 year old RB, Knowshon doesn't really appear to fit this offense other than as a 3rd down back, Eddie's been AWOL since Jay was traded, Fells is an average-stop gap. Honestly, I only see Decker, Bay Bay and Julius as guys to grow with Tim over time (again, if Tim even is the guy).

Regardless, I'm hoping the team is professional and rallies around Tim because (outside of maybe Lloyd) they can all stand to benefit from his presence. He'll make running the ball easier on the Backs, loved throwing to TEs and college so should make good use of Julius, had a nice rapport with Bay Bay and Decker in camp last year and his mobility should help the OL look better too.

Man I can't wait for Miami.

Dedhed
10-11-2011, 10:34 PM
I don't see where either QB would win more then 6 games this year. Orton has played bad but, Tebow is still green exp wise so who knows how many wins we get or don't get with him esp on the road. Denver had to switch .

I want Luck here.F#%k Luck and the loser's mentality it would take to get in a position to draft him.

If you're goal is to lose games, and you're achieving that goal (which we were with Orton) you don't make a change. The Broncos did.

Elway made it pretty clear that Tebow is in their plans moving forward beyond this year.

HAT
10-11-2011, 10:43 PM
W @ Miami: Denver rapes them off of a bye & the team being energized with Tebow getting his 1st 2011 start in Florida.

W vs. Detroit....Barely. Denver will let down some but Detroit will more. They're sandwiched between ATL & a division game vs. the Bears. Home field & the fact that Detroit will be coming off 5 straight dome games will net Denver a close win.

W @ Oakland. Another close one but the momentum of getting to .500 will push Denver over the top. Oakland will be a little sloppy after their bye & slightly look ahead to SD the following week.

W @ KC. It's the Chiefs..."Nuff said.

L vs. Jets. A very frustrating loss considering a 4 game win streak including 3 on the road. The home crowd will be going nuts but Denver's offense regresses big time & only musters 10 points.

W @ SD. Denver finds a way & at 6-5 it's anybody's AFCW (Except the Chiefs of course)

L @ Minny. AP goes nuts & Ponder is finding his way.

W vs. Chicago.....No explanation needed.

L vs. NE. Denver loses a heartbreaking shootout. 41-37

W @ Buff....Denver's offense is rolling at this point & they come up on the right side of a shootout scoring 33

W vs. KC....b**** please.

Houshyamama
10-11-2011, 11:26 PM
W @ Miami: Denver rapes them off of a bye & the team being energized with Tebow getting his 1st 2011 start in Florida.

W vs. Detroit....Barely. Denver will let down some but Detroit will more. They're sandwiched between ATL & a division game vs. the Bears. Home field & the fact that Detroit will be coming off 5 straight dome games will net Denver a close win.

W @ Oakland. Another close one but the momentum of getting to .500 will push Denver over the top. Oakland will be a little sloppy after their bye & slightly look ahead to SD the following week.

W @ KC. It's the Chiefs..."Nuff said.

L vs. Jets. A very frustrating loss considering a 4 game win streak including 3 on the road. The home crowd will be going nuts but Denver's offense regresses big time & only musters 10 points.

W @ SD. Denver finds a way & at 6-5 it's anybody's AFCW (Except the Chiefs of course)

L @ Minny. AP goes nuts & Ponder is finding his way.

W vs. Chicago.....No explanation needed.

L vs. NE. Denver loses a heartbreaking shootout. 41-37

W @ Buff....Denver's offense is rolling at this point & they come up on the right side of a shootout scoring 33

W vs. KC....b**** please.

I'll have some of what you're smoking. Orange and blue chronic maybe?

WABronco
10-11-2011, 11:57 PM
I'll have some of what you're smoking. Orange and blue chronic maybe?

ITS CALLED REALITY GET SOME

vonqkilla
10-12-2011, 12:37 AM
@ mia we are gonna kill them, matt moore vs fox, bye, healthy

Lions loss but a war

@ oak tough games, loss

@ kc, they suck, barely beat ind , win

Jets we beat them if elvis was there, now tebow, healthy def, win

@sd no chance, they should be better on d if healthy, road game, cant see it

@ minn ponder and all day wont be enough, win vs rook qb

Chi home crowd vs bears oline and von doom, lmao, contain forte, and its a w

Ne at home, tebow loses this shootout

@ buff not as good as thier record, they come down to earth, and we play them tough, could go anyway, I like our chances with tebow, but it will depend on our safeties, loss

Kc we blow them out to end the year at home, tebow walks off field to chants, and its on again in 2012.

vonqkilla
10-12-2011, 12:42 AM
My buddies facebook status post who is a bears fan.

Cutler in the huddle ” fk you, fk you, fk you, (points at forte) your cool, and fk you im out”.

ol#7
10-12-2011, 02:41 AM
I honestly feel like we have a shot at every game on our schedule now (not saying we win every game, just have a real shot in each). Part of that is that there is no longer any guage for what this team can be (we already knew with Orton) and part is seeing how they can play when motivated like that 2nd half. Success breeds success. If this team wins in two weeks and the Lions dont stumble against SF, that becomes a trap game.

epicSocialism4tw
10-12-2011, 03:44 AM
Well?

The Denver Post stole your idea:

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos

jhns
10-12-2011, 07:08 AM
ITS CALLED REALITY GET SOME

More like being a hater.

ant1999e
10-12-2011, 08:07 AM
,I think you completely failed at his post. He wants to lose all games to go after Luck. Has nothing to do with Orton or even Tebow.

I'm referring to.his statement that the fans have gone all beiber crazy over tebow.

Powderaddict
10-12-2011, 08:23 AM
I voted 3. Denver still is lacking depth, and as injuries happen the play will suffer.

I don't need X number of wins to decide if Tebow is the QB going forward, there are too many other factors. I just need to see if he shows enough improvement in reading a defense and accurately placing the ball in places that gives the receivers a chance to make a catch.

The schedule is brutal from here on out. Hopefully Tebow can show he is the QB for the future, so we can use our high draft pick on another position. If he isn't, we should be in a great spot to pick a QB. Really it's a win/win for Fox and Elway.

BroncoBen
10-12-2011, 09:10 AM
W @ Miami
W vs. Detroit
W @ Oakland
W @ KC
L vs. Jets
W @ SD
L @ Minny
W vs. Chicago
L vs. NE.
W @ Buff
W vs. KC


So you have the Broncos going 8-3 the rest of the way ? Humm... your crazy.

Looking at this schedule.. the best the Broncos go 2-9 with wins @ Miami and vs. KC the last game of the season.

This schedule is brutal, and with basically a rookie QB who runs the spread, no depth at DT, and a medical unit of WRs and TEs.. no way the Broncos win more than 2 games.

lonestar
10-12-2011, 09:13 AM
I honestly feel like we have a shot at every game on our schedule now (not saying we win every game, just have a real shot in each). Part of that is that there is no longer any guage for what this team can be (we already knew with Orton) and part is seeing how they can play when motivated like that 2nd half. Success breeds success. If this team wins in two weeks and the Lions dont stumble against SF, that becomes a trap game.

Actually WE did not know what Orton was going to do. Some of you HOPED he would faulter and all the while it comes down to spoiled fans and reporters running off yet another guy that is not John Elway.

Y'all do not get that there is only one Elway and to hold all QBs in DEN to his standards is dumb.
Y'all forget while he was a special guy even could not win the holy grail without a solid TEAM behind him.
That he made mistakes early in his career.
He melted down in several superblows when the heat was on.
His super hero regard by the locals is not healthy for everyone that is brought in to play QB.

Orton will find a niche on some team that does not have an Elway shadow to fill.

As for Tebow he is the closest thing since Elway to come along. Let's hope that y'all do not run him off with to high expectations while he is developing. And turn on him casting him aside because there is another Elway look alike coming out of college.

maher_tyler
10-12-2011, 09:24 AM
I picked 7 because I'm a homer, I think we can win:

@Miami
@KC
Jets at home
@Vikings
Bears at home, they look bad
@Buff (Buff could be resting their starters by this point?)
KC home, could be meaningful for us, not for them.

Jets/Bears could beat us, I think we have a chance in Oakland, so those could be somewhat interchangeable.

I'm still not convinced that the Lions have what it takes for a whole season, but Suh and Fairley will be going nuts on our Oline I'm sure, plus champ on megatron is kind of a nauseating thought right now.

One can dream right?

I really hope Champ is 100% for that game. He seems to step his game up lately going up against top WR's. It'll definitely be a challange for him. I'm sure CJ will make some plays but it won't be easy. Champ is still top 5 in the league.

jhns
10-12-2011, 09:44 AM
Actually WE did not know what Orton was going to do. Some of you HOPED he would faulter and all the while it comes down to spoiled fans and reporters running off yet another guy that is not John Elway.

Y'all do not get that there is only one Elway and to hold all QBs in DEN to his standards is dumb.
Y'all forget while he was a special guy even could not win the holy grail without a solid TEAM behind him.
That he made mistakes early in his career.
He melted down in several superblows when the heat was on.
His super hero regard by the locals is not healthy for everyone that is brought in to play QB.

Orton will find a niche on some team that does not have an Elway shadow to fill.

As for Tebow he is the closest thing since Elway to come along. Let's hope that y'all do not run him off with to high expectations while he is developing. And turn on him casting him aside because there is another Elway look alike coming out of college.

Orton has been terrible for seven years. Those of us that watch football, knew exactly what we had. Some, like you, just don't understand what you are watching.

Houshyamama
10-12-2011, 10:09 AM
The Denver Post stole your idea:

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos

Bastards.

broncocalijohn
10-12-2011, 10:13 AM
,

I'm referring to.his statement that the fans have gone all beiber crazy over tebow.

Oh ****! You don't think they have? Did you hear what was going on before, during and after the SD game? How about the hoopla over putting up a billboard to start Tebow. Sold the most (or was it 3rd most) jerseys and many before he took a snap? Come on, man. MacGruder isnt the only nut job in Broncos Country!

Here it goes again...
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_19093222

DrFate
10-12-2011, 10:15 AM
Actually WE did not know what Orton was going to do.

I knew


Some of you HOPED he would faulter

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/falter


Orton will find a niche on some team

As a backup

DarkHorse
10-12-2011, 10:21 AM
I put em down for 3 more wins

bronco militia
10-12-2011, 10:23 AM
5 OR 6.....this defense really blows

Pick Six
10-12-2011, 10:38 AM
What I saw, Sunday, was a team energized by Tebow's presence. The defense played harder, and the running backs ran harder. The WRs TRIED to up their game, but they couldn't catch Tebow's ducks. Get the passing game going, and we COULD have something here...

Houshyamama
10-12-2011, 12:47 PM
After 173 votes (158 of which count as I disallowed 15 of the 16 11-win votes), the average O-maner thinks we'll win 4.68 games with Tebow over the rest of the season.

BroncoMan4ever
10-12-2011, 01:09 PM
After 173 votes (158 of which count as I disallowed 15 of the 16 11-win votes), the average O-maner thinks we'll win 4.68 games with Tebow over the rest of the season.

why were 15 of the 11 win votes discounted? because they are truly unbelievable homer votes or because they were made to be stupid?

Houshyamama
10-12-2011, 01:56 PM
why were 15 of the 11 win votes discounted? because they are truly unbelievable homer votes or because they were made to be stupid?

Either or. Look at the shape of the graph, they're obviously joke votes.

55CrushEm
10-12-2011, 02:08 PM
So you have the Broncos going 8-3 the rest of the way ? Humm... your crazy.

Looking at this schedule.. the best the Broncos go 2-9 with wins @ Miami and vs. KC the last game of the season.

This schedule is brutal, and with basically a rookie QB who runs the spread, no depth at DT, and a medical unit of WRs and TEs.. no way the Broncos win more than 2 games.

You saying that the BEST the Broncos do is 2-9, is just as crazy as saying we'll go 8-3.

Now, we COULD go 2-9.....but to say that's the BEST we'll do......come on.

I'll think we'll win 4-6 games from here on out.

peacepipe
10-12-2011, 02:10 PM
You saying that the BEST the Broncos do is 2-9, is just as crazy as saying we'll go 8-3.

Now, we COULD go 2-9.....but to say that's the BEST we'll do......come on.

I'll think we'll win 4-6 games from here on out.Against who?

Houshyamama
10-12-2011, 02:17 PM
Against who?

other teams

55CrushEm
10-12-2011, 02:22 PM
Against who?

KC twice
@ Minnesota
@ Buffalo
Chicago

vonqkilla
10-12-2011, 02:26 PM
KC twice
@ Minnesota
@ Buffalo
Chicago

We are beating down Miami. Mark it

Anyone know the legal status of online betting at bodog?

55CrushEm
10-12-2011, 02:29 PM
We are beating down Miami. Mark it

Anyone know the legal status of online betting at bodog?

Oh yeah, I forgot.....so 6 wins....add Miami to my list.

epicSocialism4tw
10-12-2011, 02:40 PM
Against who?

The Broncos will beat you more than twice.

peacepipe
10-12-2011, 04:05 PM
KC twice
@ Minnesota
@ Buffalo
Chicago

ROFL! they'll split with KC but Minn.,Bills, & chicago?
a split with KC & a possible win vs. Miami is the best I see happening.

lonestar
10-12-2011, 08:48 PM
Orton has been terrible for seven years. Those of us that watch football, knew exactly what we had. Some, like you, just don't understand what you are watching.
Mr expert, yep.

That is why your a HC. In the NFL.

Or maybe your just a head case. I suspect in know which& your not working for Goodell or any of his teams.

Go play with yourself.

Agamemnon
10-12-2011, 08:50 PM
Wow, I'm actually below the peak of the bell curve with a guess of 4. Guess I'm not as big a Tebow lover as people accuse me of being. Hilarious!

LOL at all the people saying 11...

Agamemnon
10-12-2011, 08:52 PM
We are beating down Miami. Mark it

Anyone know the legal status of online betting at bodog?

I agree. That stadium is going to be massively pro-Tebow, and Miami lacks the true bane of our defense: a franchise QB.

lonestar
10-12-2011, 09:00 PM
I knew



http://www.thefreedictionary.com/falter



As a backup


Thanks for the falter posting on an iPhone is sometimes a surprise on what word winds up on the screen. And since I'm new at this baby keyboard I do not always get it dead on.

As for Orton. Right now he is laughing all the way to the bank. Wondering how is going to spend his 8 mil. And whether he is a back up or not he still will be laughing.

Not the way that Jake was each time he signed an new contract with guaranteed money to free up cap space.

But soon will be starting for another team in the NFL. Just not in always shadow.

Y'all are taking this way to personal.

I think it is funny how some of you think some one that supported the guy loved him.

Most of us did not get our panties in a wad when he came here and jaysus was relegated to get the snot beat out of him week after week. Frankly could not be happier to see it happen to a bigger HC (head case).

lonestar
10-12-2011, 09:03 PM
What I saw, Sunday, was a team energized by Tebow's presence. The defense played harder, and the running backs ran harder. The WRs TRIED to up their game, but they couldn't catch Tebow's ducks. Get the passing game going, and we COULD have something here...

IIRC the RBs ran hard all day even before Tebow time. As for the ducks time and practice will fix most of that.

Hard to get timing down when you never practice with live ammo.

Now that should change. I doubt he will ever be a 60%+ guy but f he is moving the chains what does that matter. Worked for Elway.

lonestar
10-12-2011, 09:06 PM
Wow, I'm actually below the peak of the bell curve with a guess of 4. Guess I'm not as big a Tebow lover as people accuse me of being. Hilarious!

LOL at all the people saying 11...


Yep either lots of love or lots of hate.
Been no other way since John retired.

I think if we are hitting on all cylinders like we were in the second half new are going to win loads of games. But will emotion be enough?

Knowing where that ends is tricky.

Nwp-Apap
10-12-2011, 09:18 PM
We go 11-0, win the super bowl, and the national media craps themselves.

Tim
10-12-2011, 09:20 PM
We go 11-0, win the super bowl, and the national media craps themselves.
I agree

epicSocialism4tw
10-12-2011, 09:31 PM
We go 11-0, win the super bowl, and the national media craps themselves.

Merril Hoge's gigantic head explodes on live TV.

KCStud
10-13-2011, 01:06 AM
KC twice
@ Minnesota
@ Buffalo
Chicago

LOL

ScottXray
10-13-2011, 06:29 AM
I agree. That stadium is going to be massively pro-Tebow, and Miami lacks the true bane of our defense: a franchise QB.

You forget that our defense makes EVERY QB look like a franchise one.

We lost twice to Jamarcus (the Hut) Russel, and made vince young comfortable in the pocket. andy dalton looked all-pro THIS year.

I am not convinced that Miami will be an easy win...even if its a Home game for TT.

1. Lack of Reps with starters.
2. Timing with receivers .
3. Tweaks to Offensive plays means new blocking assignments.

the offense is going to have to put some points up and likely will but the Defense also has to play better. Mistakes by the O may put the D in a bad position several times. Over time and with practice these should leesen but we basically have one week to change a lot of stuff and that typically leads to problems for teams.

I do think we will win...I doubt it is a blowout.

jhns
10-13-2011, 06:56 AM
Mr expert, yep.

That is why your a HC. In the NFL.

Or maybe your just a head case. I suspect in know which& your not working for Goodell or any of his teams.

Go play with yourself.

So you are right because you are a head coach in the NFL?

You really don't think things through before posting.

55CrushEm
10-13-2011, 07:46 AM
ROFL! they'll split with KC but Minn.,Bills, & chicago?
a split with KC & a possible win vs. Miami is the best I see happening.

Yeah....Chicago and Minny suck.

I admit, Buffalo could be a reach...but I don't see them holding up.

KC flat out blows.

Keep hatin' hater.

2 wins MAX is laughable.

55CrushEm
10-13-2011, 07:47 AM
LOL

LOL

NFLBRONCO
10-13-2011, 08:54 AM
Yeah....Chicago and Minny suck.

I admit, Buffalo could be a reach...but I don't see them holding up.

KC flat out blows.

Keep hatin' hater.

2 wins MAX is laughable.

Why is 2 wins max laughable???????????????? I think its highly possible but, we'll see. Inexperienced Tebow is hardly our only issue. While I expect Denver to win this game it's a road game and we have a storied history of late losing to bad teams. Heck we only won 4 games last year.

Dedhed
10-13-2011, 09:04 AM
Wow, I'm actually below the peak of the bell curve with a guess of 4. Guess I'm not as big a Tebow lover as people accuse me of being. Hilarious!

LOL at all the people saying 11...

It's easy to identify the trolls by looking at the people who voted either 0 or 11.

peacepipe
10-13-2011, 09:07 AM
Yeah....Chicago and Minny suck.
I admit, Buffalo could be a reach...but I don't see them holding up.

KC flat out blows.

Keep hatin' hater.

2 wins MAX is laughable.

all three are VERY BIG reaches, KC does suck,but as bad as they are they usually still split with us. you could probably count on 1 hand over the last 20 yrs how many times we swept KC.

jhns
10-13-2011, 09:11 AM
It's easy to identify the trolls by looking at the people who voted either 0 or 11.

You are.

lonestar
10-13-2011, 09:39 AM
It's easy to identify the trolls by looking at the people who voted either 0 or 11.

I always want to win EVERY game until we are eliminated from the play offs. After that I'd rather see the rookies backups evaluated jot looking to get blown out by the other team but and would live to win.

But knowing what we have for the future and seeing what spots need shoring up are way more important than a meaningless win.

Not saying I'd tank games on purpose but 2-3 wins vs 3-5 spots lower in the draft could make a huge difference also. Njust look at last year able to get the pick of the litter vs left overs IMO it was worth that during rebuilding.

And face it folks this team was in need of a complete foundation up las Vegas style blow it up watch it fall and build fresh on a new foundation.

Much the way GB has done. Look at all the top picks and youth on that team.

They are going be a tough team for a decade or more if the can manage the cap well and not throw money at UFAs.

Almost the same thing that ATL, Bal NYJ and a few other teams have done. Although in BaL case they havea superb GM that has been quietly building that team since they were reborn.
They will always be a contender as long as Ozzie is in charge.

BroncoMan4ever
10-13-2011, 12:00 PM
Either or. Look at the shape of the graph, they're obviously joke votes.

what i meant more than anything was why did 1 of the 16 votes for 11 wins remain?

jhns
10-13-2011, 12:04 PM
what i meant more than anything was why did 1 of the 16 votes for 11 wins remain?

Because that jhns guy gives credibility to the 11 win vote.

Houshyamama
10-13-2011, 12:35 PM
what i meant more than anything was why did 1 of the 16 votes for 11 wins remain?

I couldn't take it all the way down to zero. At that time there was also 1 vote for 0 wins so it followed the shape of the graph to keep 1 11-win vote as well. Right now I'd probably keep 2 as the graph seems to be leveling out at that number.

Pick Six
10-13-2011, 02:21 PM
Until proven otherwise, I always have some hope that the Broncos win every game. The degree of hope varies, though...8')

lonestar
10-13-2011, 03:13 PM
It's easy to identify the trolls by looking at the people who voted either 0 or 11.

So someone that is optimistic and sees/hope to win everygame a troll?

Must be a broad definition of troll. Most folks would call that being a fan.

Agamemnon
10-13-2011, 03:23 PM
It's easy to identify the trolls by looking at the people who voted either 0 or 11.

I wouldn't necessarily call them trolls. Some fans just like to be unrealistically optimistic no matter what. If that's their thing, cool with me. I'll still giggle at it a bit, but I don't have a problem with it.

Houshyamama
10-13-2011, 03:40 PM
So someone that is optimistic and sees/hope to win everygame a troll?

Must be a broad definition of troll. Most folks would call that being a fan.

Troll might be a strong term, but it is obviously an unrealistic vote and shouldn't be taken seriously.

briane
10-13-2011, 04:50 PM
Hopefully 0 but, my guess 2. I like giving him a shot but, I also want option of getting a QB in 12 too.

I dont think I have ever thought "what a dumba$$" more than right after I read that post. Hopefully 0? Quit being a Bronco "fan" and go jump on the Buffalo bandwagon. I dont care what the situation, I could never hope that the Broncos win zero games.

Gcver2ver3
10-13-2011, 05:22 PM
It was a tough call between ten and eleven for me... i'll say we just miss winning out...

MplsBronco
11-18-2011, 07:04 AM
8-3 with Tebow to finish 9-7, narrowly missing the playoffs. Then we can all lament at how Tebow should have been starting from week 1 and people will be really pissed.

If the D plays well and continues to get sacks/turnovers, I think we win the next 5. Yes, I said it.

I know its a douchey thing to quote yourself, but I thought I better bump this to eat some crow. I said we would win the first 5 with Tebow. Obviously I was terribly wrong!!!

jhns
11-18-2011, 07:06 AM
Tebow failed me as I voted he won't lose a game.

lonestar
11-18-2011, 08:43 AM
Troll might be a strong term, but it is obviously an unrealistic vote and shouldn't be taken seriously.

So why did you make them options.

lonestar
11-18-2011, 08:44 AM
I dont think I have ever thought "what a dumba$$" more than right after I read that post. Hopefully 0? Quit being a Bronco "fan" and go jump on the Buffalo bandwagon. I dont care what the situation, I could never hope that the Broncos win zero games.

Thanks for saving me from saying the same thing.

Some people's kids.

Jay3
11-28-2011, 05:43 PM
I honestly feel like we have a shot at every game on our schedule now (not saying we win every game, just have a real shot in each). Part of that is that there is no longer any guage for what this team can be (we already knew with Orton) and part is seeing how they can play when motivated like that 2nd half. Success breeds success. If this team wins in two weeks and the Lions dont stumble against SF, that becomes a trap game.

Give this man a prize for most prescient and insightful answer.

Steve Prefontaine
11-28-2011, 06:32 PM
Based on what I've "been told" I'm going with 11. Bawahaha
Sick burn.

ozomulsion
11-28-2011, 07:52 PM
ROFL! they'll split with KC but Minn.,Bills, & chicago?
a split with KC & a possible win vs. Miami is the best I see happening.

Wow. You sure do know your foosball. Go the opposite direction of your predickions, and I'd be set to make me some dolla bills yo.

DarkHorse
11-28-2011, 08:00 PM
I put em down for 3 more wins


Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!

Houshyamama
11-28-2011, 08:01 PM
I voted 5, not much better.

broncocalijohn
11-28-2011, 10:16 PM
Waffled between 4 and 5. But what I think are wins can still become losses. I am more worried about the Defense than Tebow and the offense. I think he can score 24 points a game. Games with a chance are Miami, Bears and one of 2 KC games. Throw in the Jets and Raiders and there are 6 games to win. Take at least 4 of them and maybe get 1 of the remaining tough 5 games and that equals a solid 5 games out of the last 11. Add Vikings and that is one more win for over .500. If not, close to .500 but this team was going to win no more than 7 to start. This gets them in that ballpark.

Pure awesome indecision! I said 4 to 5 wins but then explain 6 could happen...twice. Best part is I still might be selling the team too short. While I thought the D was better than last year, it wasn't Tebow I was more afraid of for the poll. Who knew the D was going to be this much better after 5 weeks? Not sure if the poll was locked but best to screen shot it and post it so no Johnny Come Latelies show up and vote. Always have a close date on these things!

Houshyamama
11-29-2011, 01:51 AM
Pure awesome indecision! I said 4 to 5 wins but then explain 6 could happen...twice. Best part is I still might be selling the team too short. While I thought the D was better than last year, it wasn't Tebow I was more afraid of for the poll. Who knew the D was going to be this much better after 5 weeks? Not sure if the poll was locked but best to screen shot it and post it so no Johnny Come Latelies show up and vote. Always have a close date on these things!

The poll ended with like 201 votes I think