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UberBroncoMan
10-10-2011, 05:46 PM
It's long been a joy to watch our former QB fail gloriously on Sunday/Monday night games. I'm actually curious of the stats on this since he went to Chicago.

With the Lion's D-Line pressure I am hoping for quite a few INT's.

He's been dog **** all year outside of his last game vs Atlanta at home.

Aside from him, I'm really interested in watching the spread offense that Detroit has going on. Perhaps we'll see something similar adopted here for Tebow.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 06:06 PM
I expect Cutler to get eaten alive in this one. A three interception game won't surprise me one bit.

Requiem
10-10-2011, 06:26 PM
Robbie Gould, get me 7 points and I hope the Bears or Lions defense sucks!

SimonFletcher73
10-10-2011, 06:31 PM
Suh is going to make Cutler frown. More than usual.

maher_tyler
10-10-2011, 06:39 PM
Cutler might get knocked out of this game...

chawknz
10-10-2011, 06:46 PM
I hope they play Cutler like a pinball.

cabronco
10-10-2011, 06:53 PM
That crowd noise reminds me of the old Seattle dome, that place was loud.

razorwire77
10-10-2011, 06:56 PM
Bear's o-line is definitely a 6.

TDmvp
10-10-2011, 07:13 PM
Boy this is ugly football.

SimonFletcher73
10-10-2011, 07:13 PM
Can't help but feel happy for the Lions and their fans.

tsiguy96
10-10-2011, 07:14 PM
wonder how much the bears paid the refs today...

Orange4Life
10-10-2011, 07:14 PM
I get the whole reason why Hank Williams had to go. But why did the Monday Night Football theme have to go to? That Barry Sanders thing was lame

UberBroncoMan
10-10-2011, 07:15 PM
Refs having a fun game so far.

SimonFletcher73
10-10-2011, 07:15 PM
The penalty should have been for that left handed pass.

gyldenlove
10-10-2011, 07:23 PM
That Bears offense is atrocious.

Dr. Broncenstein
10-10-2011, 07:25 PM
Lions d line is just ridiculous.

UberBroncoMan
10-10-2011, 07:29 PM
Holy **** Calvin Johnson.

maher_tyler
10-10-2011, 07:33 PM
Holy **** Calvin Johnson.

Was a beast at GT, is now a beast at Detroit! It'd be killer if DT was half as good.

SimonFletcher73
10-10-2011, 07:34 PM
Already looking forward to the part of the game where the Bears have to throw every down.

CEH
10-10-2011, 07:42 PM
Best return man evah but Hester sucks as a WR

Bronco Yoda
10-10-2011, 07:42 PM
Megatron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Chris
10-10-2011, 07:55 PM
I have to say Cutler is making some clutch throws given the pressure.

frerottenextelway
10-10-2011, 08:00 PM
Cutler is awesome!

gyldenlove
10-10-2011, 08:01 PM
I have to say Cutler is making some clutch throws given the pressure.

That TD throw was a throw he did not make in Denver, his touch passes were damn near always either overthrown or way too flat allowing defenders to make a play on the ball.

Ratboy
10-10-2011, 08:01 PM
Haters gonna hate.

Jay Cutler is playing pretty good with the amount of time he has to throw.

UberBroncoMan
10-10-2011, 08:07 PM
Stafford doing his best Cutler impression.

Disappointing so far. Cutler is finally having a great primetime game.

frerottenextelway
10-10-2011, 08:10 PM
Is there a worse pass blocking line than Chicago?

elsid13
10-10-2011, 08:10 PM
that bear o line sucks big time. I am surprise that they are ahead at this point.

SoCalBronco
10-10-2011, 08:13 PM
I miss you, Jay. :(

Unfortunately, I think DET will get it together in the second half at home, but I'm really pleased with how its going so far.

Requiem
10-10-2011, 08:15 PM
Jay is playing great with that rag tag OL. Go Bears!

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 08:15 PM
I miss you, Jay. :(


I think I might be ill...

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 08:16 PM
Stafford doing his best Cutler impression.

Disappointing so far. Cutler is finally having a great primetime game.

He's on pace for a whopping 206 yards! That's amazing... ::)

Bob's your Information Minister
10-10-2011, 08:16 PM
Cutler is playing great. Get him an OL and some receivers that aren't ****.

SoCalBronco
10-10-2011, 08:17 PM
I think I might be ill...

ROFL!...yeah I knew you guys would like that. Haha.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-10-2011, 08:17 PM
He's on pace for a whopping 206 yards! That's amazing... ::)

He has had 0 protection and he has no receivers.


11/14 is pretty impressive, and so is the fact he has only been sacked once.

UberBroncoMan
10-10-2011, 08:18 PM
He's on pace for a whopping 206 yards! That's amazing... ::)

Exceptionally high completion percentage a TD and no turnovers. He's playing great for them so far. I hope he throws 2 INT's in the second half but if he continues as is then Chicago should win.

spdirty
10-10-2011, 08:30 PM
Please don't turn the ball over Chicago! I'm out of players, up by 6, and my opponent has Detroit. No pick 6s please.

DBroncos4life
10-10-2011, 08:35 PM
He's on pace for a whopping 206 yards! That's amazing... ::)

Yeah if yards was the only way to evaluate QB play....

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 08:37 PM
Yeah if yards was the only way to evaluate QB play....

He's not done anything great so far. Just managing the game. Is that what Chicago gave us all those picks for? A game manager?

DBroncos4life
10-10-2011, 08:38 PM
He's not done anything great so far. Just managing the game. Is that what Chicago gave us all those picks for? A game manager?

Well they dumped Orton on us so they won that trade.

jhns
10-10-2011, 08:38 PM
I wish we still had Cutler. There wouldn't have been fighting over the QB for a good 15 years.

TDmvp
10-10-2011, 08:39 PM
Sorry haters Cutler's skill set is insane.

DBroncos4life
10-10-2011, 08:40 PM
If Tebow was putting up numbers like Cutler today you would be pimping him up and that is a fact.

SoCalBronco
10-10-2011, 08:42 PM
That OL is really horrible...ofcourse they are playing great DT's, but its almost impossible for Jay to set his feet and get into a throw and he's still balling.

Prolly isn't going to be able to do this the rest of the game, but impressive to be sure.

spdirty
10-10-2011, 08:43 PM
He's not done anything great so far. Just managing the game. Is that what Chicago gave us all those picks for? A game manager?

15/18 and no picks, and hasn't been able to set his feet all night. Lions probably have 15 freaking hurries already. Cutler has been great so far considering how bad his oline is getting beat. What game are you watching?

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 08:44 PM
Is this really a Mike Martz offense? Forte's on pace for nearly 40 carries in this game...

DaFace
10-10-2011, 08:45 PM
Is this really a Mike Martz offense? Forte's on pace for nearly 40 carries in this game...

They're trying not to let Cutler get killed.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 08:46 PM
Sorry haters Cutler's skill set is insane.

Hilarious!

Cutler's skill set: big arm, big ego, little brain. That truly is amazing...

jhns
10-10-2011, 08:46 PM
Hilarious!

Cutler's skill set: big arm, big ego, little brain. That truly is amazing...

McDaniels is gone...

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 08:46 PM
They're trying not to let Cutler get killed.

The way that Forte is running maybe they just realized that Cutler isn't their best weapon.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 08:47 PM
McDaniels is gone...

And? I have a low opinion of both those emo kids...

CEH
10-10-2011, 08:48 PM
If Tebow was putting up numbers like Cutler today you would be pimping him up and that is a fact.

4-10 79 yards , nothing pass the LOS except in super duper prevent defense mode , fumbled snaps and they call Cutler a game manager in this game.

Go figure

cabronco
10-10-2011, 08:48 PM
Lions coach does a ghey fist pump after scoring. Even McD didnt look that awful.

UberBroncoMan
10-10-2011, 08:49 PM
Well...one more score and then Cutler is going to have to air it out.

jhns
10-10-2011, 08:49 PM
And? I have a low opinion of both those emo kids...

and McFans remain...

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 08:50 PM
I wish we still had Cutler. There wouldn't have been fighting over the QB for a good 15 years.

Seriously? Half of the Bears fanbase can't stand the guy. Go visit their forums, if you doubt me.

jhns
10-10-2011, 08:50 PM
Seriously? Half of the Bears fanbase can't stand the guy. Go visit their forums, if you doubt me.

Who cares what Bears fans think? I don't respect most Bronco fan opinions...

SoCalBronco
10-10-2011, 08:51 PM
Seriously? Half of the Bears fanbase can't stand the guy. Go visit their forums, if you doubt me.

Then they're morons.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 08:52 PM
Who cares what Bears fans think? I don't respect most Bronco fan opinions...

You said that there wouldn't be fighting over the QB for 15 years if we had kept Cutler. Who are you talking about fighting if not other fans? You have fights with yourself?

DBroncos4life
10-10-2011, 08:53 PM
Bears need to understand its OK to update the D scheme they run.

jhns
10-10-2011, 08:54 PM
You said that there wouldn't be fighting over the QB for 15 years if we had kept Cutler. Who are you talking about fighting if not other fans? You have fights with yourself?

I was talking about here. If you were crying about us having a third year pro bowl QB, you are an idiot. I guess you idiots are always around though, so you do have a point.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 08:55 PM
Then they're morons.

Hmm...here I was thinking that people who believe Cutler is anything other than a mediocre QB were morons. Hmm...

Requiem
10-10-2011, 08:55 PM
Seriously? Half of the Bears fanbase can't stand the guy. Go visit their forums, if you doubt me.

Jay Cutler helped lead the Bears to a NFCCG in his second year with the Bears. He improved his average and TD/INT ratio with having one of, if not the worst OL in the NFL. His OL play isn't much better this year. Considering that and his no-name group of WR, highlighted by an undrafted rookie FA out of Ohio State -- he deserves some respect.

jhns
10-10-2011, 08:55 PM
McFans still trying to justify his moves... How sad.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 08:56 PM
I was talking about here. If you were crying about us having a third year pro bowl QB, you are an idiot. I guess you idiots are always around though, so you do have a point.

Ah so he'd be great if he was still a Bronco. Him being a crap QB right now is purely because he's a Bear. Got it.

jhns
10-10-2011, 08:57 PM
Ah so he'd be great if he was still a Bronco. Hmm being a crap QB right now is purely because he's a Bear. Got it.

Sure, they have just as much offensive talent as we have had. You are brilliant. Cutler didn't take a huge step back when going to the Bears.

You McFans have been wrong since day one. Just give it up.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 08:57 PM
Jay Cutler helped lead the Bears to a NFCCG in his second year with the Bears. He improved his average and TD/INT ratio with having one of, if not the worst OL in the NFL. His OL play isn't much better this year. Considering that and his no-name group of WR, highlighted by an undrafted rookie FA out of Ohio State -- he deserves some respect.

Cutler is a mediocre QB. By every single measurable. But you people keep believing whatever you like. Don't let the facts get in the way...

jhns
10-10-2011, 08:58 PM
Cutler is a mediocre QB. By every single measurable. But you people keep believing whatever you like. Don't let the facts get in the way...

Don't let your sandy vagina get in the way.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 08:58 PM
McFans still trying to justify his moves... How sad.

You're killing me. Not liking Cutler = being a McD fan. Brilliant. Hilarious!

SoCalBronco
10-10-2011, 08:59 PM
Hmm...here I was thinking that people who believe Cutler is anything other than a mediocre QB were morons. Hmm...

You should be glad that you now have the oppurtunity to correct your flawed line of thought. :)

jhns
10-10-2011, 08:59 PM
You're killing me. Not liking Cutler = being a McD fan. Brilliant. Hilarious!

Pretty much.

DBroncos4life
10-10-2011, 08:59 PM
You're killing me. Not liking Cutler = being a McD fan. Brilliant. Hilarious!

Anyone that doesn't agree with jhns is a McFan.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 09:00 PM
Don't let your sandy vagina get in the way.

You are really emotionally invested in Cutler aren't you? Hilarious!

jhns
10-10-2011, 09:00 PM
Anyone that doesn't agree with jhns is a McFan.

Or people that still try to justify his horrible moves.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 09:00 PM
Pretty much.

I'm starting to see why so many think you are an idiot...

Requiem
10-10-2011, 09:01 PM
Cutler is a mediocre QB. By every single measurable. But you people keep believing whatever you like. Don't let the facts get in the way...

I pointed out his poor receivers and offensive line and the production and success he has been able to do in spite of that. I never said the guy was without faults.

The bolded part just makes me laugh. I guess he has mediocre arm strength. :(

jhns
10-10-2011, 09:01 PM
I'm starting to see why so many think you are an idiot...

Because I am right all the time?

You aren't even making sense as you ramble on. You got your poor little feelings hurt by a player when you should have been mad at the horrible coach. Good luck with that.

Tombstone RJ
10-10-2011, 09:04 PM
Anyone that doesn't agree with jhns is a McFan.

this

jhns
10-10-2011, 09:04 PM
You girls act like you weren't all for McDaniels. Should we bring up old posts?

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=3228

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 09:05 PM
Or people that still try to justify his horrible moves.

Two emotionally retarded men get into a pissing match over a bunch of bull**** and one is forced to go work for someone else. Personally my opinion of both goes down the crapper. You on the other decide to back one emotional retard over the other. Good job. Keep thinking your emotional retard is the better emotional retard. I'll keep enjoying life without either.

DBroncos4life
10-10-2011, 09:05 PM
You girls act like you weren't all for McDaniels. Should we bring up old posts?

Please do. I want to see how much I talked him up. ROFL!Ha!Hilarious!

Tombstone RJ
10-10-2011, 09:05 PM
You girls act like you weren't all for McDaniels. Should we bring up old posts?

please do. you obviously have nothing better to do than be a complete dick.

edog24
10-10-2011, 09:06 PM
Im not a McD fan nor a frown cannon fan, but he is playing amazing tonight. There are a lot of qbs that would have folded pretty quickly tonight. Their oline is a sieve.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 09:06 PM
Because I am right all the time?


Are you being serious? Hilarious!

jhns
10-10-2011, 09:07 PM
Two emotionally retarded men get into a pissing match over a bunch of bull**** and one is forced to go work for someone else. Personally my opinion of both goes down the crapper. You on the other decide to back one emotional retard over the other. Good job. Keep thinking your emotional retard is the better emotional retard. I'll keep enjoying life without either.

What is funny is you are worried about a football players personality. That is cute.

jhns
10-10-2011, 09:08 PM
Are you being serious? Hilarious!

Yes.

SoCalBronco
10-10-2011, 09:08 PM
This OL is absolute trash. Walton and Beadles would make fun of them.

jhns
10-10-2011, 09:11 PM
Please do. I want to see how much I talked him up. ROFL!Ha!Hilarious!

Show me where I called you a McFan. This is where you talked him up.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 09:11 PM
Please do. I want to see how much I talked him up. ROFL!Ha!Hilarious!

Personally I'd like to see the posts from before I was even here.

I thought both McD and Cutler were dip****s in how they handled the whole deal. And beyond that I have yet to see anything from Cutler that proves he's a franchise QB. Nothing. Nada. Not a single season with a QB rating over 90 or a 2-to-1 TD/Int ratio. But I guess one can't underestimate the power of imagination.

DBroncos4life
10-10-2011, 09:11 PM
I want to be a OL scout for the Bears. It can't be that demanding of a job.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 09:12 PM
What is funny is you are worried about a football players personality. That is cute.

I tend to prefer QBs with character and leadership. I guess you prefer interception machines that like to pout. To each their own.

jhns
10-10-2011, 09:13 PM
I tend to prefer QBs with character and leadership. I guess you prefer interception machines that like to pout. To each their own.

The players will not date you... Sorry.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 09:13 PM
Yes.

You should go see a therapist if you honestly believe you are always right. That isn't healthy.

DBroncos4life
10-10-2011, 09:13 PM
Personally I'd like to see the posts from before I was even here.

I thought both McD and Cutler were dip****s in how they handled the whole deal. And beyond that I have yet to see anything from Cutler that proves he's a franchise QB. Nothing. Nada. Not a single season with a QB rating over 90 or a 2-to-1 TD/Int ratio. But I guess one can't underestimate the power of imagination.

I hate McD so much I spend all my spare time trying to build a wormhole to take me back in time to punch McD's dad in the nuts 5 billion times so he can never be born.

Requiem
10-10-2011, 09:14 PM
You should go see a therapist if you honestly believe you are always right. That isn't healthy.

Be honest with us here: On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being "immense" -- how would you describe your knowledge of football?

jhns
10-10-2011, 09:14 PM
You should go see a therapist if you honestly believe you are always right. That isn't healthy.

Knowing what you are talking about is unhealthy?

Spider
10-10-2011, 09:16 PM
dayum happy for the lions

vonqkilla
10-10-2011, 09:19 PM
Mopey Jay seems to be going thru motions, no chance vs lion DL.

bronco militia
10-10-2011, 09:19 PM
lmao at the bears right tackle

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 09:20 PM
Gotta say all the people adamantly defending a guy that isn't even a Bronco anymore here is pretty weird. And most of you are brutal towards the players actually on our roster. Cutler ain't that good. Is it the whole trade thing? Did that traumatize you, and leave you with deep-seeded resentment. Has it led you to some kind of strange idealization of Cutler as a symbol of ideal Broncos that was defiled by McD? ****ing bizarre...

maven
10-10-2011, 09:20 PM
haven't watched the game, but 10 points? Cutler can't throw a pass?

jhns
10-10-2011, 09:21 PM
Gotta say all the people adamantly defending a guy that isn't even a Bronco anymore here is pretty weird. And most of you are brutal towards the players actually on our roster. Cutler ain't that good. Is it the whole trade thing? Did that traumatize you, and leave you with deep-seeded resentment. Has it led you to some kind of strange idealization of Cutler as a symbol of ideal Broncos that was defiled by McD? ****ing bizarre...

Right, everyone else is wrong. The guys on TV. Everyone here. The NFL. It is all a conspiracy to bring you down.

bronco militia
10-10-2011, 09:22 PM
mike martz still refuses to help his QB

SoCalBronco
10-10-2011, 09:22 PM
Gotta say all the people adamantly defending a guy that isn't even a Bronco anymore here is pretty weird.

Last I checked, the world didn't revolve around whoever happened to be on our roster. If it did, we probably wouldn't be 5-16 in our last 21. Blind slavish worship is exactly what the regime wants from you. Don't give it to them.

SoCalBronco
10-10-2011, 09:23 PM
Tremendous effort and heart by Jay. This is a great performance even in a likely loss.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-10-2011, 09:23 PM
Wow, great throw.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 09:23 PM
Be honest with us here: On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being "immense" -- how would you describe your knowledge of football?

Be honest with us here: Do you know jack **** about anything? Honestly Requiem your posts are almost alway ass-backwards.

And to honestly answer your question I would say a 5.

maven
10-10-2011, 09:24 PM
Cutler will throw a pick soon. Book it.

SoCalBronco
10-10-2011, 09:25 PM
Be honest with us here: Do you know jack **** about anything? Honestly Requiem your posts are almost alway ass-backwards.

And to honestly answer your question I would say a 5.

Actually, Req is a pretty big stud, dude. He's the draft master and he also nailed 4 chicks at once at NDSU.

Legend.

KipCorrington25
10-10-2011, 09:25 PM
Jaworski with the quote of the night "Cutler is in a manhole out there"

Yeah, obviously.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQRMOwSkPPWUgYLPWVXfr2kS27U4WRz4 OeNHWivEAAsnw1JeOnwVw

razorwire77
10-10-2011, 09:25 PM
Cutler is playing well considering how bad his line has played. 9 false start penalties is unheard of in the NFL. Hell, it's unheard of for a HS team.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 09:25 PM
Last I checked, the world didn't revolve around whoever happened to be on our roster. If it did, we probably wouldn't be 5-16 in our last 21. Blind slavish worship is exactly what the regime wants from you. Don't give it to them.

Have you read my posts? Blind slavish worship is hardly what I send their way. Not having a high opinion of Cutler has absolutely nothing to do with that. Just because one thing sucks doesn't mean something else is good.

TDmvp
10-10-2011, 09:25 PM
mike martz still refuses to help his QB

Martz should go coach college cause he just isn't much of a NFL OC or head coach.

He has in every job his been at either been unable to adjust or is so arrogant he refuses...

baja
10-10-2011, 09:26 PM
Lions got a boat load of foot ball players.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 09:27 PM
Actually, Req is a pretty big stud, dude. He's the draft master and he also nailed 4 chicks at once at NDSU.

Legend.

Hilarious!

maven
10-10-2011, 09:27 PM
mike martz still refuses to help his QB

I do not mind watching Cutler get obliterated.

ROFL!

Requiem
10-10-2011, 09:28 PM
Be honest with us here: Do you know jack **** about anything? Honestly Requiem your posts are almost alway ass-backwards.

And to honestly answer your question I would say a 5.

I know a lot about some things, very little about others. Your takes on almost everything related to Broncos football have been laughed at or ignored by the forum's most valued members. Don't think the same could be said for mine.

Orange4Life
10-10-2011, 09:29 PM
I hate jay. I hate him with a passion. That said I'm impressed that he has been able to hold it together tonight. He is keeping the bears in it on his own. I thought for sure he would have 3 picks by now. It is bringing me joy to see him get pounded.

DBroncos4life
10-10-2011, 09:29 PM
Lions got a boat load of foot ball players.

42 straight years of picking in the top 5 will do that for you.

TDmvp
10-10-2011, 09:30 PM
I know a lot about some things, very little about others. Your takes on almost everything related to Broncos football have been laughed at or ignored by the forum's most valued members. Don't think the same could be said for mine.



:spit: Hilarious!

http://onstartups.com/Portals/150/images/charlie-sheen-winning-resized-600.jpg

Requiem
10-10-2011, 09:31 PM
Actually, Req is a pretty big stud, dude. He's the draft master and he also nailed 4 chicks at once at NDSU.

Legend.

The former is true, the latter is not. It was six girls and they were all from different countries!

(Nah, but that Cowgirls fan was the best!)

UberBroncoMan
10-10-2011, 09:31 PM
I want to see another TD to Calvin so he has 2 per game 5 straight games.

maven
10-10-2011, 09:31 PM
nice tackle Urlacher.

SoCalBronco
10-10-2011, 09:31 PM
The former is true, the latter is not. It was six girls and they were all from different countries!

(Nah, but that Cowgirls fan was the best!)

Haha....sweet.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 09:31 PM
Right, everyone else is wrong. The guys on TV. Everyone here. The NFL. It is all a conspiracy to bring you down.

What the hell are you talking about? Plenty of people think Cutler has severely underachieved in his career so far. It's actually very hard to dispute if you look at his crap production, but don't let that stop you.

baja
10-10-2011, 09:32 PM
Jarvis Best - what a player....

spdirty
10-10-2011, 09:32 PM
Hope the lions just salt away the rest of the game here. Only up 4 now and I don't need cutler throwing any picks.

Orange4Life
10-10-2011, 09:33 PM
It will take more than one game where jay actually balls up and plays awesome to make me feel bad about trading him. He could revert to the INT sulking machine at any moment

SoCalBronco
10-10-2011, 09:33 PM
Jarvis Best - what a player....

Jahvid Best is even better. :)

BTW good to see you, you havent been posting much recently.

Requiem
10-10-2011, 09:34 PM
I hate jay. I hate him with a passion. That said I'm impressed that he has been able to hold it together tonight. He is keeping the bears in it on his own. I thought for sure he would have 3 picks by now. It is bringing me joy to see him get pounded.

He has been very impressive. OL and WR should be alternated for every draft pick they have coming up this year. Maybe they will smarten up and not draft an OL who has major back issues and was removed from half of the NFL teams draft boards.

I'm talking about you Chris Williams!

maven
10-10-2011, 09:35 PM
Urlacher sucks cock. He should be called out on it.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 09:35 PM
I know a lot about some things, very little about others. Your takes on almost everything related to Broncos football have been laughed at or ignored by the forum's most valued members. Don't think the same could be said for mine.

And what takes would those be? And who are these "most valued members"? This is pretty rich. The take I've been most adamant about since I joined here was that Orton sucked, and that Tebow should start. How's that laughable exactly? It's looking pretty dead on right now.

Seriously, man this is rich...

baja
10-10-2011, 09:35 PM
It will take more than one game where jay actually balls up and plays awesome to make me feel bad about trading him. He could revert to the INT sulking machine at any moment

Cutler could win the next 6 MVPs and I still would not want him on the Broncos.

CEH
10-10-2011, 09:37 PM
Jarvis Best - what a player....

Now that's a 3rd down change of pace back. A guy that can go the distance at any time. He was fun to watch tonight. Kinda reminded me of Portis back in the Zone blocking. Once he hits the 2nd level it's a footrace

Requiem
10-10-2011, 09:37 PM
What the hell are you talking about? Plenty of people think Cutler has severely underachieved in his career so far. It's actually very hard to dispute if you look at his crap production, but don't let that stop you.

Four and a half years as a starter in the NFL, he has led a team to an NFCCG, thrown for over 17,000 yards, 100+ touchdowns, 60% completion and received various accolades.

Sounds like he has underachieved for sure!

maven
10-10-2011, 09:39 PM
received various accolades.

Sounds like he has underachieved for sure!

What various accolades?

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 09:39 PM
Four and a half years as a starter in the NFL, he has led a team to an NFCCG, thrown for over 17,000 yards, 100+ touchdowns, 60% completion and received various accolades.

Sounds like he has underachieved for sure!

He also has a career passer rating of 84.0 and 83 interceptions. He's the very definition of mediocre in today's NFL. But nice cherry picking.

Requiem
10-10-2011, 09:40 PM
And what takes would those be? And who are these "most valued members"? This is pretty rich. The take I've been most adamant about since I joined here was that Orton sucked, and that Tebow should start. How's that laughable exactly? It's looking pretty dead on right now.

Seriously, man this is rich...

Oh man, I dunno. I thought all my takes were ass-backwards! Which ones were they!?

People who have been on the forums a long time know who the valued and respected members for takes are. You haven't been around here long enough to earn those stripes.

Everyone knows Orton sucks and most have been wanting Tebow since he was drafted.

Not much of a take there.

jhns
10-10-2011, 09:40 PM
McFans make me sad.

DivineBronco
10-10-2011, 09:40 PM
What various accolades?
--
he did quit in the biggest game of his life....I think that is an x-box achievement

maven
10-10-2011, 09:41 PM
--
he did quit in the biggest game of his life....I think that is an x-box achievement

good point.

Ha!

Requiem
10-10-2011, 09:42 PM
He also has a career passer rating of 84.0 and 83 interceptions. He's the very definition of mediocre in today's NFL. But nice cherry picking.

John Elway finished his career with a 79.9 QB rating.

Roger Staubach was less than Jay's.

Troy Aikman and Warren Moon too.

Nice cherry-picking. Hilarious!

baja
10-10-2011, 09:43 PM
What various accolades?

His mother said he always washes his hands before he eats for one.

baja
10-10-2011, 09:43 PM
He always puts the seat back down after he pees is another.

bronco militia
10-10-2011, 09:45 PM
Cutler could win the next 6 MVPs and I still would not want him on the Broncos.

you would start six threads calling 'it'

bronco militia
10-10-2011, 09:46 PM
Ha!

maher_tyler
10-10-2011, 09:48 PM
Not a Cutler supporter in anyway. But he has looked good for a change tonight. It's to bad the rest of his team didn't show up to play. He's been running for his life all game and his best receiver is their RB.

baja
10-10-2011, 09:48 PM
you would start six threads calling 'it'

Nope I really don't like his attitude and would hate to have to want him to do well.

SoCalBronco
10-10-2011, 09:48 PM
Great effort and performance, Jay. Too bad your teammates (esp OL) couldn't bring it half as well, tonight.

Young Lions are impressive (a few weeks back someone compared them to the 1991 Cowboys...right on the brink of greatness).

maven
10-10-2011, 09:48 PM
Cutler's prime is nothing but getting obliterated. Good tv.

jhns
10-10-2011, 09:49 PM
Nope I really don't like his attitude and would hate to have to want him to do well.

LOL

As if you know Cutler.

Your hero is gone.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 09:49 PM
Oh man, I dunno. I thought all my takes were ass-backwards! Which ones were they!?

People who have been on the forums a long time know who the valued and respected members for takes are. You haven't been around here long enough to earn those stripes.

Everyone knows Orton sucks and most have been wanting Tebow since he was drafted.

Not much of a take there.

Actually going and looking at recent posts we are often in agreement, so I'll take back what I said.

We agree that Eddie Royal has underperformed and will likely be gone when his contract is up.

We agree that Moreno is useful on our current roster even if he hasn't performed to the standard of where he was drafted.

We agree that Lloyd probably isn't a long-term answer at WR for the Broncos.

It seems we are both guilty of painting with too broad of strokes to me. But either way, I'm not here to win over anyone. Agree or disagree I come here to vent and express my opinions, not earn my stripes whatever that means.

maven
10-10-2011, 09:49 PM
Ha!

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/10/8/9e0db963-2129-4f7d-90e1-4dbe182dcbb0.jpg

Requiem
10-10-2011, 09:50 PM
Great effort and performance, Jay. Too bad your teammates (esp OL) couldn't bring it half as well, tonight.

Young Lions are impressive (a few weeks back someone compared them to the 1991 Cowboys...right on the brink of greatness).

Props to Jay on a sound game with terrible OL play.

Lions are a force to be reckoned with. After a decade of having losing seasons (and no more than 7 wins) -- they finally have put something together. Good for them!

baja
10-10-2011, 09:50 PM
Who would you rather have Tebow or Cutler?

The Joker
10-10-2011, 09:51 PM
Only been able to follow on NFL.com, why the hell did didn't the Bears throw it in the endzone that last drive? They needed two scores, short completions to move the chains are more or less worthless in that situation.

jhns
10-10-2011, 09:51 PM
Who would you rather have Tebow or Cutler?

Is that a real question?

StugotsIII
10-10-2011, 09:51 PM
I'd rather have the Lions defensive line…plus Von.

jhns
10-10-2011, 09:51 PM
Only been able to follow on NFL.com, why the hell did didn't the Bears throw it in the endzone that last drive? They needed two scores, short completions to move the chains are more or less worthless in that situation.

Cutler had 1.2 seconds to throw every play. There is no such thing as a long route that takes less than 1.2 seconds to develop.

maven
10-10-2011, 09:51 PM
Who would you rather have Tebow or Cutler?

Doesn't matter anymore. Cutler has been gone now going on 3 seasons.

baja
10-10-2011, 09:52 PM
Is that a real question?

Yes. Do you have a real answer?

Requiem
10-10-2011, 09:53 PM
I'd rather have Jay right now. That doesn't mean Tebow cannot be special or turn into a better NFL quarterback.

The Joker
10-10-2011, 09:54 PM
Cutler had 1.2 seconds to throw every play. There is no such thing as a long route that takes less than 1.2 seconds to develop.

Well then they should leave some extra people in to block so they can get some people deep, Martz is an idiot.

Tombstone RJ
10-10-2011, 09:54 PM
The Lions just have a boat load of talent. Dabearz are a franchise that trade the house for a QB and then give him very little to work with. Forte had a great game but you'd think dabearz would make it a priority to get sweet baby jay some more weapons.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 09:54 PM
John Elway finished his career with a 79.9 QB rating.

Roger Staubach was less than Jay's.

Troy Aikman and Warren Moon too.

Nice cherry-picking. Hilarious!

Too bad those guys played in an era where passer ratings were roughly ten or more points lower across the board than they are now. Today's NFL is far more QB friendly, and the stats of franchise QBs reflect that. Cutler isn't in that group. Period.

jhns
10-10-2011, 09:55 PM
Yes. Do you have a real answer?

Cutler. It isn't even close.

Requiem
10-10-2011, 09:56 PM
Too bad those guys played in an era where passer ratings were roughly ten or more points lower across the board than they are now. Today's NFL is far more QB friendly, and the stats of franchise QBs reflect that. Cutler isn't in that group. Period.

I'm not saying he is as good as those guys. I merely illustrated that his passer rating is on par with some of the best to play the game.

SoCalBronco
10-10-2011, 09:57 PM
I really like Tim Tebow, I'm excited to watch him play and take over as our starter (which he rightfully deserves) and I think if they give him a fair chance and help him he'll do a terrific job here, but if given the choice, I would definitely, easily choose Jay.

Tombstone RJ
10-10-2011, 09:59 PM
I really like Tim Tebow, I'm excited to watch him play and take over as our starter (which he rightfully deserves) and I think if they give him a fair chance and help him he'll do a terrific job here, but if given the choice, I would definitely, easily choose Jay.

no thanks on frown cannon. He's not a leader. Sure, he's talented but so was Jeff George.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 10:02 PM
I'm not saying he is as good as those guys. I merely illustrated that his passer rating is on par with some of the best to play the game.

In a completely different era. In his era he is mediocre statistically. An argument can be made that it's because his protection has been crappy since going to Chicago, but that remains purely theoretical. Aaron Rodgers was sacked 50 times in 2009 and he still produced great numbers. Cutler? Hasn't happened yet. He's still not a franchise QB. He just isn't.

Bronx33
10-10-2011, 10:04 PM
Mr frowny pot got pounded tonight.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 10:04 PM
no thanks on frown cannon. He's not a leader. Sure, he's talented but so was Jeff George.

Bingo. Tebow's uncanny intangibles and playmaking ability have me far more excited than I ever was with Cutler's strong arm, forced throws, and pouting sessions on the bench.

jhns
10-10-2011, 10:04 PM
In a completely different era. In his era he is mediocre statistically. An argument can be made that it's because his protection has been crappy since going to Chicago, but that remains purely theoretical. Aaron Rodgers was sacked 50 times in 2009 and he still produced great numbers. Cutler? Hasn't happened yet. He's still not a franchise QB. He just isn't.

He was the second best QB in the AFC in his second year starting. Your wounded vag is getting in the way of reason.

Simple Jake
10-10-2011, 10:06 PM
This Jahvid Best dude is a beast.. never realized how well he has converted his game to the NFL.. and Calvin Johnson already has 9 td's???? Detroit really has built a special team.. can't wait to play them...........

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 10:07 PM
He was the second best QB in the AFC in his second year starting. Your wounded vag is getting in the way of reason.

No he wasn't. Are you joking?

jhns
10-10-2011, 10:10 PM
No he wasn't. Are you joking?

McDaniels is gone. Blame him for what he did. You hurt feelings are getting in the way.

Tombstone RJ
10-10-2011, 10:10 PM
Bingo. Tebow's uncanny intangibles and playmaking ability have me far more excited than I ever was with Cutler's strong arm, forced throws, and pouting sessions on the bench.

I don't think Mike Martz is helping frown cannon. Martz coached with Warner who was a talented and yes, non-egotistical QB. Warner was driven for all the right reasons and all Martz had to do was sit back and watch Warner and Marshall Faulk, Isaac Bruce, etc. put on a show.

not so much with dabearz. If they think frown cannon is going to single handedly John Elway them into the post season they got a hard cold reality to face. and it's cold by the lake my friends, very cold.

Bronco Yoda
10-10-2011, 10:14 PM
It's been over 50 years since Lions were 5-0.

WOW

Requiem
10-10-2011, 10:16 PM
In a completely different era. In his era he is mediocre statistically. An argument can be made that it's because his protection has been crappy since going to Chicago, but that remains purely theoretical. Aaron Rodgers was sacked 50 times in 2009 and he still produced great numbers. Cutler? Hasn't happened yet. He's still not a franchise QB. He just isn't.

The formula hasn't changed even though the Era has. I didn't sort through the exact rankings on PFR, but I believe Cutler's 84 would net him in the top ten in that category

If you don't think that having a terrible OL and WR corps doesn't impact his play, you're absolutely wrong. It has a tremendous impact on it. There is no consistency there. Devin Hester, Johnny Knox, Slutzenbacher, who the **** are those clowns? The Bears haven't given Jay a fair shake in giving him the weapons necessary to succeed and he still has put up some impressive numbers.

You would be hard pressed to argue that they have any quality player at those positions on their roster. They do not have a true #1 or #2 receiver. Compare the 2009 receivers for the Packers to the 2009 receivers for the Bears. It's not even funny how big of a difference there is.

Bronco Yoda
10-10-2011, 10:17 PM
Tremendous effort and heart by Jay. This is a great performance even in a likely loss.

Sorry but Jay still thinks you're a 6. Ha!

Bronco Yoda
10-10-2011, 10:22 PM
That Lions/Packers game on Thanksgiving now looks to be a real good game.

Requiem
10-10-2011, 10:23 PM
That Lions/Packers game on Thanksgiving now looks to be a real good game.

You are a good looking game.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 10:34 PM
McDaniels is gone. Blame him for what he did. You hurt feelings are getting in the way.

What the **** are you talking about? What does McDaniels have to do with your completely absurd statement that Cutler was the second best QB in the AFC in 2008?

Simple Jake
10-10-2011, 10:38 PM
What the **** are you talking about? What does McDaniels have to do with your completely absurd statement that Cutler was the second best QB in the AFC in 2008?

McDaniels has everything to do with anything ever

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 10:40 PM
The formula hasn't changed even though the Era has. I didn't sort through the exact rankings on PFR, but I believe Cutler's 84 would net him in the top ten in that category

If you don't think that having a terrible OL and WR corps doesn't impact his play, you're absolutely wrong. It has a tremendous impact on it. There is no consistency there. Devin Hester, Johnny Knox, Slutzenbacher, who the **** are those clowns? The Bears haven't given Jay a fair shake in giving him the weapons necessary to succeed and he still has put up some impressive numbers.

You would be hard pressed to argue that they have any quality player at those positions on their roster. They do not have a true #1 or #2 receiver. Compare the 2009 receivers for the Packers to the 2009 receivers for the Bears. It's not even funny how big of a difference there is.

Cutler hasn't ranked in the top 10 in the NFL in passer rating once in his entire career. What top 10 are you referring to?

As far as the rest of it goes, it's all just theoretical. Would he be better with better talent around him? Probably. How much better? Who ****ing knows? All that can be looked at is what he's actually done, and it's not much. Certainly not enough to be called a franchise QB.

Finger Roll
10-10-2011, 10:57 PM
[QUOTE=Requiem;3327030]The formula hasn't changed even though the Era has. I didn't sort through the exact rankings on PFR, but I believe Cutler's 84 would net him in the top ten in that category

The formula hasn't changed but game and rules have. It's much harder for corners to cover nowdays. A qb rating of 80 back then is like a qb rating of 95now. 84 rating isn't very good anymore.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 11:03 PM
The formula hasn't changed but game and rules have. It's much harder for corners to cover nowdays. A qb rating of 80 back then is like a qb rating of 95now. 84 rating isn't very good anymore.

Don't forget the change to the intentional grounding rules or the way pass rushers can't destroy QBs when they have the chance anymore. QBs have it cushy these days.

NUB
10-11-2011, 12:26 AM
Chicago's offense is Cutler, Forte, five Richard Quinns blocking and three Ashley Lelies receiving.

jhns
10-11-2011, 05:55 AM
What the **** are you talking about? What does McDaniels have to do with your completely absurd statement that Cutler was the second best QB in the AFC in 2008?

It is what is making you so retarded.

He was the second QB in the pro bowl. Players, coaches, and fans agree with me. You call it absurd because you still can't get that your hero screwed up.

v2micca
10-11-2011, 06:21 AM
Chicago's offense is Cutler, Forte, five Richard Quinns blocking and three Ashley Lelies receiving.

I only watched the first half of this game, but I don't know how Mike Martz hasn't had to turn in his genius card by now. Seriously, 5 straight times I saw Cutler take a 7 step drop and the Defensive ends were on him before he could even complete the drop. At what point does Martz finally concede that he doesn't have the pieces to pull his schemes off and finally start using a 3 step quick out system. The sad thing is, I think that the Bears actually do have the pieces to be a much better offense than they are. But as long as Martz keeps forcing them to play against their strengths they are going to continue to suck.

Ray Finkle
10-11-2011, 06:36 AM
Great effort and performance, Jay. Too bad your teammates (esp OL) couldn't bring it half as well, tonight.

Young Lions are impressive (a few weeks back someone compared them to the 1991 Cowboys...right on the brink of greatness).

I watched some of the game and watched a QB that has changed/grown very little since year 2....

v2micca
10-11-2011, 06:47 AM
I watched some of the game and watched a QB that has changed/grown very little since year 2....

Actually, it is beginning to look like he is regressing and developing a lot of bad habits. Its a shame really. Cutler had a ton of potential. But sometimes, potential is the most damning thing you can say about a guy. At this point, he pretty much looks ruined. Bears will have to start over again with a new QB in another 2 years, tops.

jhns
10-11-2011, 06:52 AM
Actually, it is beginning to look like he is regressing and developing a lot of bad habits. Its a shame really. Cutler had a ton of potential. But sometimes, potential is the most damning thing you can say about a guy. At this point, he pretty much looks ruined. Bears will have to start over again with a new QB in another 2 years, tops.

What are you girls talking about? There are maybe two other QBs in this league that could play that well with so little help. There is no chance that they get rid of Cutler. Keep letting your hurt feelings make you look retarded though.

strafen
10-11-2011, 06:56 AM
That Lions/Packers game on Thanksgiving now looks to be a real good game.

For a change.
I'm happy for the Lions and their fanbase. Their team finally reached relevancy.
Thanksgiving this year will be an exciting day for them more so than in the past for sure...

v2micca
10-11-2011, 06:58 AM
What are you girls talking about? There are maybe two other QBs in this league that could play that well with so little help. There is no chance that they get rid of Cutler. Keep letting your hurt feelings make you look retarded though.

Hey, I loved Cutler as a Bronco. I was less than thrilled with the trade and feel that if Bowlen hadn't gone on a weekend bender which resulted in him Firing Shanahan and hiring McDaniels, Cutler would be one of the top 5 QBs in the league right now.

But the facts are that playing behind that offensive line in Chicago he has developed bad habits. He is constantly throwing off of his back foot now. He has spent too much time running for his life that he can't read defenses and develop his progressions. And the big hits are having a cumulative affect on him. I'm sorry, Chicago is ruining him. And unless things change, they will need to start over with a new QB in about 2 years.

strafen
10-11-2011, 06:59 AM
Actually, it is beginning to look like he is regressing and developing a lot of bad habits. Its a shame really. Cutler had a ton of potential. But sometimes, potential is the most damning thing you can say about a guy. At this point, he pretty much looks ruined. Bears will have to start over again with a new QB in another 2 years, tops.

The bears got no OL, no WR's.
I think their leading receiver was their punt returner and their RB.
That's ****ed up!

jhns
10-11-2011, 07:03 AM
Hey, I loved Cutler as a Bronco. I was less than thrilled with the trade and feel that if Bowlen hadn't gone on a weekend bender which resulted in him Firing Shanahan and hiring McDaniels, Cutler would be one of the top 5 QBs in the league right now.

But the facts are that playing behind that offensive line in Chicago he has developed bad habits. He is constantly throwing off of his back foot now. He has spent too much time running for his life that he can't read defenses and develop his progressions. And the big hits are having a cumulative affect on him. I'm sorry, Chicago is ruining him. And unless things change, they will need to start over with a new QB in about 2 years.

He was makong reads before being able to finish his drops. In fact, he was pretty much perfect with his reads. He throws off his back foot because he is getting hit as soon as he finishes his drop. That isn't a bad habit, it is doing what you have to do.

There is no way you watched that game. I do agree that he would be much further along if he was still here though.

I will bet you a years salary that he is still in Chicago in two years, as long as there are no serious injuries.

Ray Finkle
10-11-2011, 07:04 AM
Actually, it is beginning to look like he is regressing and developing a lot of bad habits. Its a shame really. Cutler had a ton of potential. But sometimes, potential is the most damning thing you can say about a guy. At this point, he pretty much looks ruined. Bears will have to start over again with a new QB in another 2 years, tops.

He is beginning to remind me of Bulger the last few years he was the starter. He's been hit so much that he has ruined his pocket sense.

jhns
10-11-2011, 07:09 AM
He is beginning to remind me of Bulger the last few years he was the starter. He's been hit so much that he has ruined his pocket sense.

There is no way either of you watched this game. He was moving away from pressure just before it got there all night. Most QBs would have taken 10+ sacks last night.

Learn football.

Ray Finkle
10-11-2011, 07:14 AM
There is no way either of you watched this game. He was moving away from pressure just before it got there all night. Most QBs would have taken 10+ sacks last night.

Learn football.

yeah...back on ignore for you.

v2micca
10-11-2011, 07:14 AM
I will bet you a years salary that he is still in Chicago in two years, as long as there are no serious injuries.

That is part of my point. With the punishment he takes in an average year. There is no way that he makes it through another two seasons without major injury. All it is going to take is one bad hit and he is done. Unless the Bears do something, they just aren't playing the percentages here.

jhns
10-11-2011, 07:15 AM
yeah...back on ignore for you.

Probably for the best. Not that it will stop me from pointing out obvious stupidity.

That guy that keeps avoiding sacks, by sensing pressure, sure has no pocket awareness! You just can't make this up...

Ray Finkle
10-11-2011, 07:31 AM
Probably for the best. Not that it will stop me from pointing out obvious stupidity.

That guy that keeps avoiding sacks, by sensing pressure, sure has no pocket awareness! You just can't make this up...

it is easy to avoid sacks when you see them coming. How do you explain the hurried throws or not stepping into his said throws? Losing pocket sense does not mean you avoid sacks, it means you lose the ability to sense when to step up or change your drops from a 5 to a 3. He has the deer in headlights look.

jhns
10-11-2011, 08:05 AM
it is easy to avoid sacks when you see them coming. How do you explain the hurried throws or not stepping into his said throws? Losing pocket sense does not mean you avoid sacks, it means you lose the ability to sense when to step up or change your drops from a 5 to a 3. He has the deer in headlights look.

You obviously didn't watch the game. He was getting away from pressure just as it got there. He wasn't stepping up because he had two DTs standing in front of him every play. You can't use proper mechanics when in the situation he was in. Your hurt feelings are the only thing talking right now because everyone other than some hurt vaginas in Bronco land think that Cutler played as good as a QB could play in that situation.

Why are you responding to me?

Ray Finkle
10-11-2011, 08:08 AM
You obviously didn't watch the game. He was getting away from pressure just as it got there. He wasn't stepping up because he had two DTs standing in front of him every play. You can't use proper mechanics when in the situation he was in. Your hurt feelings are the only thing talking right now because everyone other than some hurt vaginas in Bronco land think that Cutler played as good as a QB could play in that situation.

Why are you responding to me?

great question....only a person with low intelligence has to result to name calling because they lack the ability to communicate...

Later...

jhns
10-11-2011, 08:14 AM
great question....only a person with low intelligence has to result to name calling because they lack the ability to communicate...

Later...

Name calling? You sure are a sensitive one. You are also a huge drama queen as I never even called you a name.

Only a person with low intelligence refuses to have a real conversation based on a professional athlete hurting their feelings...

Again though, you respond after crying about ignore. Now I will name call. You are a douche.

Rohirrim
10-11-2011, 08:15 AM
I enjoyed watching Cutler getting ping ponged last night. I had restful sleep afterwards. ;D

ColoradoDarin
10-11-2011, 09:01 AM
Haven't read the whole thread, but I knew the game was over when I saw Mopey mopeying during the 3rd quarter.


At least Jay isn't the 4th best QB in that division anymore since Favre retired.

Play2win
10-11-2011, 09:05 AM
Don't hate Cutler anymore, but at the same time, sure glad he isn't a Bronco either.

Peoples Champ
10-11-2011, 09:49 AM
like i have always said, Cutler just needs a good Oline, a run game, weapons to throw to, and a good defense, and then he will be a great QB

TonyR
10-11-2011, 09:56 AM
...a run game...

I know you're being facetious but I do want to point out that Forte is really good and that offense would be completely dead without him.

Williams
10-11-2011, 11:36 AM
Haven't read the whole thread, but I knew the game was over when I saw Mopey mopeying during the 3rd quarter.


At least Jay isn't the 4th best QB in that division anymore since Favre retired.

Frankly, I'd still take McNabb... even at this point in his career. They're both mid-tier quarterbacks, at best... but at least with McNabb you're not dealing with a moping pansy.

TomServo
10-16-2011, 03:25 AM
No. j cutler takes a beating and fat ass out of shape (mcnabb) mcflab shows why he never won a Lambardi. makes sense.
Mcd gets out of town after destroying the broncos. Trading away all the offensive talent. drafting Losers and yet some people still blame cutler. even dumba ss fans like myself know that No one NO ONE takes a running back with the 12th pick unless its earl campbell. but that our savoiur takes a stiff like Knoshow.

NUB
10-16-2011, 05:26 AM
Never understood the McNabb hate.

Chris
10-16-2011, 08:41 AM
Never understood the McNabb hate.

It's a Philadelphia douche thing. He sucks now though. The only gripe I had was that when they were in the SB and Mcnabb was "sick" he was taking his sweet time and basically let the clock run out. The same thing happened a few years later when he settled for a tie.