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24champ
10-09-2011, 09:37 PM
Just to put this into perspective of how BAD Orton looked today.

We all remember that thanksgiving night on NFL Network when Plummer threw for 216 yds and had a TD and INT. Broncos lost to the Chiefs 19-10. I remember Plummer had marched the team down the field on a couple drives but still the Broncos were struggling offensively that season, and the next game Cutler was put in vs Seattle.

Orton on the other had, had the worst showing of a QB I've seen in quite a while. Going 6/13 and had 34 yards in the first half and had just one INT, could have been two. Orton's body language told me he gave up. I don't think he cares anymore, just going through the motions until he lands on a new team. He's done, and there's no way he starts for this organization again.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/ap/6a/fullj.7f1bf8353f70e4fb1d0f4016a1431bbb/ap-201110091933704180105.jpg

TheDave
10-09-2011, 09:42 PM
Like I said in the "Who pulled the tebow trigger" thread... Orton pulled the tebow trigger.

Just an unaceptable level of futility.

Wes Mantooth
10-09-2011, 09:47 PM
The play calling was quite possibly worse than Orton today.

24champ
10-09-2011, 09:48 PM
Like I said in the "Who pulled the tebow trigger" thread... Orton pulled the tebow trigger.

Just an unaceptable level of futility.

I agree, it was clear that Orton just gave up. He wasn't the gamer Fox always talked about and so Fox yanked him.

barryr
10-09-2011, 09:51 PM
No question Tebow should have been playing sooner and in fact, I believed when the season started. But to be fair, Orton has never really been accepted by many fans, especially when he first came to the team.

Dr. Broncenstein
10-09-2011, 09:52 PM
Welcome to Arrowhead Stadium, 2010. And for good measure... welcome to whatever they call the stadium in Phoenix 2010. This was a continuation of that level of play. Literally, the second worst starting quarterback in the entire league. It might even be a toss up between Orton and Cassel for the league worst. Thank God he's done here. I am finally looking forward to watching Bronco games again.

broncosteven
10-09-2011, 09:56 PM
I agree that INTon gave up.

I get the feeling just from his body language that he is frustrated, he doesn't look a comfortable lining the O up. I think that the trade with Miami demoralized him and the drama of the Timbo fans wanting Tim to play was just too much for him.

The most telling stat for me is that Orton usually protects the ball and has a good TD to INT ratio but suddenly this year he has thrown 7 INTs to 8 TDs.

I would move him to 3rd string, Leave Quinn as the #2 with the same reps as he has been getting and let Orton move on when the season is over. Would have been nice to get something for him

broncocalijohn
10-09-2011, 09:59 PM
I still wish Plummer was playing somewhere in the NFL. At least he has handball and a hot wife.

broncosteven
10-09-2011, 10:04 PM
I still wish Plummer was playing somewhere in the NFL. At least he has handball and a hot wife.

You could always join the Sandy Pointe Idaho Mens handball league and play handball with him!

broncosteven
10-09-2011, 10:07 PM
Fact is it was time to move on from SOB, it was time to move on from plummer, I had no problem at the time of keeping Jay, who knows what could have happened if we had a real QB while mCd was here.

Finally it is time to move on from Orton.

I hope we get a decade out of Timmy but if not I hope the staff is ready to move on should it become clear that he is not the best option for the team.

maven
10-09-2011, 10:08 PM
I was so glad to see Plummer replaced and I am so glad to see Orton finally replaced. Today is a good day.

Simple Jake
10-09-2011, 10:12 PM
The play calling was quite possibly worse than Orton today.

I've thought that every week so far

cabronco
10-09-2011, 10:19 PM
Well Gannon said he could see it in his eye, so..

His body language was saying he didnt want to be out there, he was giving up. That said, I thought all the play calling was vanilla/ predictable. There was never a new wrinkle in the plays. Or a great call to get us out of the funk. At least until he pulled Orton, that was a good overdue call.

IHaveALight
10-09-2011, 10:23 PM
I don't think he quit. As much as I've been calling for Tebow, I actually feel kind of bad for Orton. Everyone was rooting against him and he was under tremendous pressure to perform because of it, he had to know he was real close to getting the ax and that this was quite possibly his last game. It was lot's of pressure and he buckled that's all. It was a a long and hard time to be a Broncos fan during Orton's reign but he's a good dude and I wish him the best. Hope he get's another chance somewhere else.
But...
Thank God it's Tebow time!

24champ
10-09-2011, 10:24 PM
Fact is it was time to move on from SOB, it was time to move on from plummer, I had no problem at the time of keeping Jay, who knows what could have happened if we had a real QB while mCd was here.

Finally it is time to move on from Orton.

I hope we get a decade out of Timmy but if not I hope the staff is ready to move on should it become clear that he is not the best option for the team.

I don't know if Tim Tebow is the QBOTF, I am also beginning to think that the offensive coaching staff needs to go. The playcalling is not so great these last few games.

gunns
10-09-2011, 10:25 PM
McCoy needs to go next.

Dr. Broncenstein
10-09-2011, 10:33 PM
F--k Orton and anyone who thinks he was under too much pressure to perform. He's a pro quarterback making 9 million dollars this year. Plus, he was given the starting job with no competition despite the way last season ended. He wasn't under enough pressure. If there would have been an actual competition for the starting position, he'd be on the bench. Instead, we get to hear about how a seven year NFL veteran just couldn't handle the expectations of the fans.

Gort
10-09-2011, 10:43 PM
I don't think he quit. As much as I've been calling for Tebow, I actually feel kind of bad for Orton. Everyone was rooting against him and he was under tremendous pressure to perform because of it, he had to know he was real close to getting the ax and that this was quite possibly his last game. It was lot's of pressure and he buckled that's all. It was a a long and hard time to be a Broncos fan during Orton's reign but he's a good dude and I wish him the best. Hope he get's another chance somewhere else.
But...
Thank God it's Tebow time!

he's getting $9M this year whether he plays or rides the pine.

i don't feel sorry for him.

IHaveALight
10-09-2011, 10:51 PM
Excuse me for being compassionate to a man in hard times. Forgot our society's ways for a second, he's dead now let's tear his limbs off and defecate on his torso.

Gort
10-09-2011, 11:04 PM
Excuse me for being compassionate to a man in hard times. Forgot our society's ways for a second, he's dead now let's tear his limbs off and defecate on his torso.

are you kidding?

he's not dying. he's not losing his home. his wife isn't leaving him.

all that's happening is that he's been demoted to #2 behind Tebow. and he'll still get paid $9M this year.

in short, he's getting paid a boatload of money to sit on his ass and do nothing for the rest of the year. if you think that warrants compassion, then i hate to tell you, but you'd better start having compassion for every unionized hack working for the federal government!

epicSocialism4tw
10-09-2011, 11:27 PM
No question Tebow should have been playing sooner and in fact, I believed when the season started. But to be fair, Orton has never really been accepted by many fans, especially when he first came to the team.

It was up to Orton to win the fans over. All he had to do was to perform to the level that is expected of NFL QB's and to make plays to win games.

Unfortunately for all of us (Orton as well as Fox as well as the fans), Orton made more game-losing plays than he did game-winning plays.

He had an opportunity to win over the fans, and he failed miserably. To make matters worse, he made public statements saying that he didn't "play for the fans", which certainly isn't endearing.

SoCalBronco
10-09-2011, 11:29 PM
McCoy needs to go next.

Agreed, but Fox would just replace him with someone that's fits his 3 yards and a cloud of dust/sludge in the shoes offense even more. We won't know what the shotgun even is after Fox picks the next OC.

SoCalBronco
10-09-2011, 11:31 PM
The only thing that makes me remotely happy about Orton is that Bowlen is going to have to endure seeing a guy making 9M to hold a clipboard.

Nice work, old man. I'm glad its in his pocket rather than yours, though (even though he's a douche).

IHaveALight
10-09-2011, 11:37 PM
are you kidding?

he's not dying. he's not losing his home. his wife isn't leaving him.

all that's happening is that he's been demoted to #2 behind Tebow. and he'll still get paid $9M this year.

in short, he's getting paid a boatload of money to sit on his ass and do nothing for the rest of the year. if you think that warrants compassion, then i hate to tell you, but you'd better start having compassion for every unionized hack working for the federal government!

First off I do have compassion for everyone.
Secondly I feel sorry for you too if you think that any materialistic crap that someone might have makes all they're struggles and hard times in life meaningless. Do you really think the money is the main driving factor for Orton? He get's the money because that's what the NFL is all about. The NFL is a cash cow and they make many people wealthy because of that. If I was in that position I would play all the proper business cards to get as much as I could out of it too. But actually playing, that is what the game is all about. This is what this guy has done all his life and now he's done. He may never get another chance to start again. His life as he knew it has just flipped upside down. Money isn't everything bud.

Gort
10-10-2011, 12:16 AM
First off I do have compassion for everyone.
Secondly I feel sorry for you too if you think that any materialistic crap that someone might have makes all they're struggles and hard times in life meaningless. Do you really think the money is the main driving factor for Orton? He get's the money because that's what the NFL is all about. The NFL is a cash cow and they make many people wealthy because of that. If I was in that position I would play all the proper business cards to get as much as I could out of it too. But actually playing, that is what the game is all about. This is what this guy has done all his life and now he's done. He may never get another chance to start again. His life as he knew it has just flipped upside down. Money isn't everything bud.

ummm... newsflash.

money is the main driving factor for everyone who holds a job.

you work to make money. if you don't make money, it's called a hobby.

Orton's job is professional football player, so yeah, money is the main driving factor.

if it weren't, he could play flag football in the park on weekends for free.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 12:59 AM
First off I do have compassion for everyone.
Secondly I feel sorry for you too if you think that any materialistic crap that someone might have makes all they're struggles and hard times in life meaningless. Do you really think the money is the main driving factor for Orton? He get's the money because that's what the NFL is all about. The NFL is a cash cow and they make many people wealthy because of that. If I was in that position I would play all the proper business cards to get as much as I could out of it too. But actually playing, that is what the game is all about. This is what this guy has done all his life and now he's done. He may never get another chance to start again. His life as he knew it has just flipped upside down. Money isn't everything bud.

Seriously? You really think Orton would have anything to do with the Broncos and their fans if he wasn't being paid millions of dollars? He knows we hate him. And he hates us right back. That's perfectly clear. But he's being paid 9 million dollars so he deals with it. Trust me, if it wasn't about the money he would've had much more colorful things to say to the fans than his "I don't care about the fans" comment.

Agamemnon
10-10-2011, 01:01 AM
Agreed, but Fox would just replace him with someone that's fits his 3 yards and a cloud of dust/sludge in the shoes offense even more. We won't know what the shotgun even is after Fox picks the next OC.

I can't believe how much I've come to regret the Fox hiring. When it happened I tried to be optimistic, but man is that dead now. It's like watching a crappy version of Dan Reeves...

fontaine
10-10-2011, 03:48 AM
I felt bad too.

I felt bad for the OL, especially the younger players who have to be mount everest to give an immobile, statue of a QB all the time in the world and he still checks it down to the shortest route.

I felt bad for the veterans of this team looking for a ring like Champ/Dawkins who put their body on the line while Orton is busy throwing ints, running into defenders and dropping the ball.

I felt bad for our run game that was being choked by safeties lining up in the box laughing at the inability of Orton to hit 'em up deep.

But mostly, I felt bad for the fans that shell out major bucks to go and watch a QB who time after time refused to go all out to win, and instead constantly put the team in bad situations, all the while insulting those same fans before the start of the season by saying he doesn't care what they think and thank god it's not them making the decisions.

Kinda ironic then that the same wannabe QB got his a$$ booted to the bench in no small part by the home crowd fans making their feelings known.

Orton had more than two seasons to win the fans over. He didn't and he couldn't.

IHaveALight
10-10-2011, 06:02 AM
ummm... newsflash.

money is the main driving factor for everyone who holds a job.

you work to make money. if you don't make money, it's called a hobby.

Orton's job is professional football player, so yeah, money is the main driving factor.

if it weren't, he could play flag football in the park on weekends for free.

It's about money because the money is there. You take as much as their willing to give you. Don't blame Orton for making the money, the Broncos were the one's that gave it to him. I'm pretty sure Orton would be willing to give it all away and play for free to have have the abilities of an elite QB. I know I would.

This man had a whole city rooting against him. He had a whole stadium booing him and calling for his replacement. He had 52 team mates, coaching staff, the whole Broncos organization who gave him a chance and we're counting on him, and he let them all down. He failed. His dreams were shattered. Can you even imagine what that must have felt like? I'm as excited as anyone for the Tebow era to start, but let me be the first one to go pat Orton on the back and give him some encouragement. Despite his monetary status, he's still ****ing human. He still has emotion and feels pain.

IHaveALight
10-10-2011, 06:06 AM
I felt bad too.

I felt bad for the OL, especially the younger players who have to be mount everest to give an immobile, statue of a QB all the time in the world and he still checks it down to the shortest route.

I felt bad for the veterans of this team looking for a ring like Champ/Dawkins who put their body on the line while Orton is busy throwing ints, running into defenders and dropping the ball.

I felt bad for our run game that was being choked by safeties lining up in the box laughing at the inability of Orton to hit 'em up deep.

But mostly, I felt bad for the fans that shell out major bucks to go and watch a QB who time after time refused to go all out to win, and instead constantly put the team in bad situations, all the while insulting those same fans before the start of the season by saying he doesn't care what they think and thank god it's not them making the decisions.

Kinda ironic then that the same wannabe QB got his a$$ booted to the bench in no small part by the home crowd fans making their feelings known.

Orton had more than two seasons to win the fans over. He didn't and he couldn't.

I like it. Compassion all around. :peace:

FISH
10-10-2011, 06:34 AM
I like it. Compassion all around. :pea:sunshine:ce:

I'll have two please!

ColoradoDarin
10-10-2011, 06:58 AM
Plummer's last stand was better because Plummer was at least 5 times the QB Kyle Orton ever was on his best day. Orton prays every night to be good enough to carry Plummer's jock.

rbackfactory80
10-10-2011, 06:59 AM
F--k Orton and anyone who thinks he was under too much pressure to perform. He's a pro quarterback making 9 million dollars this year. Plus, he was given the starting job with no competition despite the way last season ended. He wasn't under enough pressure. If there would have been an actual competition for the starting position, he'd be on the bench. Instead, we get to hear about how a seven year NFL veteran just couldn't handle the expectations of the fans.


For realz. I am supposed to feel bad for a guy who never has to work another day in his life. You guys should feel bad for me.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-10-2011, 07:02 AM
are you kidding?

he's not dying. he's not losing his home. his wife isn't leaving him.

all that's happening is that he's been demoted to #2 behind Tebow. and he'll still get paid $9M this year.

in short, he's getting paid a boatload of money to sit on his ass and do nothing for the rest of the year. if you think that warrants compassion, then i hate to tell you, but you'd better start having compassion for every unionized hack working for the federal government!

And the board moron injects politics. Beautiful. Right on schedule.

Gort
10-10-2011, 12:15 PM
And the board moron injects politics. Beautiful. Right on schedule.

awwww.... did somebody hurt poow widdle TheElusiveKyleOrton's feewings?

http://thebonearchitect.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/sad-clown.jpg

pricejj
10-10-2011, 12:47 PM
And the board moron injects politics. Beautiful. Right on schedule.

You leave once Orton is gone right?