Another Solyndra bombshell

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WASHINGTON (AP) — An Energy Department adviser and former fundraiser for President Barack Obama pushed for a California solar company to receive a half-billion federal loan, despite pledging to recuse himself because his wife's law firm represented the company, newly released emails show.

The emails show that Steve Spinner, a former Obama fundraiser who helped monitor a clean energy loan guarantee program, was more actively involved in a loan for Solyndra LLC than administration officials have acknowledged.

The emails, released by the administration in response to congressional investigators, show that Spinner was actively involved in a planned September 2009 trip by Vice President Joe Biden to Solyndra's Fremont, Calif., headquarters for a groundbreaking ceremony. Biden did not go on the trip but spoke via satellite. Solyndra declared bankruptcy last month after receiving a $528 million federal loan.

[Tombstone RJ]

politics as usual in our great capital of washington dc... same ole same ole... or in BO's case "change we can believe in" yay!

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But now the Admin getting caught lying about things. Looking more and more like a coverup where I felt before it was just bad judgement trying to find green energy companies to give money to. Looks more like total nepotism and conflict of interests all over the place.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Goodness.

This Administration has two watergates on their hands right now between this and Fast and Furious.

Chicagoland politics on display. I'm surprised that Blagojevich didnt end up in this administration.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Why weren't you here protesting Solyndra when Dumbya was peddling it?

[ant1999e]

Why weren't you here protesting Solyndra when Dumbya was peddling it?

Bush denied the loan dipshyt. Why don't you comment on the current situation?

[epicSocialism4tw]

Bush denied the loan dipshyt. Why don't you comment on the current situation?

LA Socialist Propaganda is just here to troll this forum with socialist propaganda.

He really doesn't believe what he types, but he believes that he can rope in useful idiots here.

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Why weren't you here protesting Solyndra when Dumbya was peddling it?

No one told me about it, said he blew half a billion, then lied about it being all his donors.

[barryr]

But it is ok, Obama did it, so he needs to be excused. The liberals around here are so emptyheaded it makes these forums a joke with their constant double standards are on all subjects. They will argue 2 +2 does not equal 4 if some idiot democrat they like also believes that.

[Spider]

I am waiting for the whole story before I comment ... LMAO @ Barry ..dude I dont see how you typed that with a strait face after your bob head job on Bush

[ant1999e]

I am waiting for the whole story before I comment ... LMAO @ Barry ..dude I dont see how you typed that with a strait face after your bob head job on Bush

Truckers to English translation: This looks bad but I can't admit it so I'll just make a smart ass comment about bush.

[Spider]

Truckers to English translation: This looks bad but I can't admit it so I'll just make a smart ass comment about bush.

LOL talk about stupid ..... reread my post genius , I made a smart ass remark about Barry ........just wow huh .... How does it feel to be more stupid then a trucker ?

[ant1999e]

LOL talk about stupid ..... reread my post genius , I made a smart ass remark about Barry ........just wow huh .... How does it feel to be more stupid then a trucker ?

My point stands. You know of looks bad but won't admit it. Instead, you deflect.

[Spider]

My point stands. You know of looks bad but won't admit it. Instead, you deflect.

LOL you are an idiot , thats well established now , as for solydnra , I dont know if Obama and Biden are a part of it or not , I sure in the hell wont take what I read here as gospel , and neither should you .....

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Bush denied the loan dipshyt. Why don't you comment on the current situation?

Way to cherry pick your facts, dumbass.

Solyndra’s ‘Republican paternity’

Republican efforts to turn Solyndra loans into some kind of political “controversy” aren’t going especially well. Last week, for example, GOP officials struggled to explain why they find the Department of Energy’s loan-guarantees program for clean tech so offensive, unless the money is going to companies in their states and districts.

But Dana Milbank notes an even more significant problem with the GOP’s argument: the “Republican paternity” for the program that extended the loans to Solyndra in the first place.

“Loan guarantees aim to stimulate investment and commercialization of clean energy technologies to reduce our nation’s reliance on foreign sources of energy,” Bush’s energy secretary, Sam Bodman, announced in a press release on Oct. 4, 2007. The release said the Energy Department had received 143 pre-applications for the guarantees and narrowed the list down to 16 finalists — including Solyndra. Bodman said the action put “Americans one step closer to being able to use new and novel sources of energy on a mass scale to reduce emissions and allow for vigorous economic growth and increased energy security.”

Bush’s Energy Department apparently adjusted its regulations to make sure that Solyndra would be eligible for the guarantees. It hadn’t originally contemplated including the photovoltaic-panel manufacturing that Solyndra did but changed the regulation before it was finalized. The only project that benefited was Solyndra’s.

The loan-guarantee program for these alternative energy companies, in turn, was created as part of the Energy Policy Act of 2005 — sponsored by Rep. Joe Barton (R-Tex.), who has been a leader in the congressional probe of Solyndra’s ties to the Obama administration.

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Tex.) was a major backer of the loan program, and is now railing against it. Rep. David Dreier (R-Calif.) supported the program’s creation, and is now trying to gut it. Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) was a major supporter of the program, and now believes the very idea behind the program is offensive.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) seems desperate to make this story a “scandal,” but he both helped create the loan program and tried to get funding through it for some of his constituents.

If I had to guess, the GOP’s interest in this weak story will continue to wane given the Republicans’ role at the heart of it.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_09/solyndras_republican_paternity032460.php

[ant1999e]

That's all and well but Obama pushed the loan through despite the warnings from his experts not to. Bush denied the loan. For not being an Obama supporter you sure do defend him a lot.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

That's all and well but Obama pushed the loan through despite the warnings from his experts not to. Bush denied the loan. For not being an Obama supporter you sure do defend him a lot.

Pointing out your erroneous claims and cherry-picked facts isn't the same thing as defending Obama.

[ant1999e]

LOL you are an idiot , thats well established now , as for solydnra , I dont know if Obama and Biden are a part of it or not , I sure in the hell wont take what I read here as gospel , and neither should you .....

Redneck truckers calling me an idiot. Well smart guy, if you want to comment in a thread maybe you should educate yourself on the topic. You know education doesn't have to stop in the 4th grade.

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Truckers to English translation: This looks bad but I can't admit it so I'll just make a smart ass comment about bush.

LOL yep. The dude that has an opinion on everything is suddenly silent because he knows this is bad.

[DBruleU]

Redneck truckers calling me an idiot. Well smart guy, if you want to comment in a thread maybe you should educate yourself on the topic. You know education doesn't have to stop in the 4th grade.

To be fair to Spider, he did make it to the 8th grade...then quit.

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Spider will be reasonable though. Sure he would rather not see dems in trouble, but once it's shown this was BS he will punch Obama in the throat.

[ant1999e]

Spider will be reasonable though. Sure he would rather not see dems in trouble, but once it's shown this was BS he will punch Obama in the throat.

I don't know. He's gone pretty far or the left.

[Spider]

Redneck truckers calling me an idiot. Well smart guy, if you want to comment in a thread maybe you should educate yourself on the topic. You know education doesn't have to stop in the 4th grade.

LOL cant educate yourself until you get all the facts genius .....

[Spider]

To be fair to Spider, he did make it to the 8th grade...then quit.

And I am still smarter then you ......funny how that works

[Spider]

I don't know. He's gone pretty far or the left.

ROFL! oh Bullshyt , hell you didnt even get my post right when you did comment , how in he hell do you know what direction I have gone Hilarious!

[Spider]

LOL yep. The dude that has an opinion on everything is suddenly silent because he knows this is bad.

No just been burned by the right before , Remember the yellow cake thing ? I just dont see this as cut and dry as it is being portrayed

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No just been burned by the right before , Remember the yellow cake thing ? I just dont see this as cut and dry as it is being portrayed

Well there is an email where a lady from the Dept of Energy sent an email saying some of this is illegal, you better have the justice dept review this loan garauntee. The reason was it was written in the small print upon a default the investors get paid back first, the taxpayers last. According to what I am reading the white house buried the email and did not have the justice dept review it, Chu sent the loan through and they got a ton of money even though the company was obviously not doing well. And then it hits some people in Obama admin had a vested interest in the company.

Not good Spider, but honestly what scandal is ever cut and dry? I have seen enough from fast and furious, solyndra, to know this admin is screwing up alot.

[Bronx33]

accountability

[broncocalijohn]

That's all and well but Obama pushed the loan through despite the warnings from his experts not to. Bush denied the loan. For not being an Obama supporter you sure do defend him a lot.

Not to mention by the time Obama was president, it was widely known that it was risky and China made them cheaper. But to LABS, as long as a R president was on the bandwagon, let's talk about that instead. How he thinks this is not going well for the Republicans is laughable. I can't wait to see Obama defend this debacle by saying, "Well, Bush looked at it to for investing." For Obama, it all goes back to Bush.

[Spider]

Well there is an email where a lady from the Dept of Energy sent an email saying some of this is illegal, you better have the justice dept review this loan garauntee. The reason was it was written in the small print upon a default the investors get paid back first, the taxpayers last. According to what I am reading the white house buried the email and did not have the justice dept review it, Chu sent the loan through and they got a ton of money even though the company was obviously not doing well. And then it hits some people in Obama admin had a vested interest in the company.

Not good Spider, but honestly what scandal is ever cut and dry? I have seen enough from fast and furious, solyndra, to know this admin is screwing up alot.

fast and furious been around before Obama , you know I waited until here was no wmd in Iraq before I blasted Bush , I waited on he pilot Program Bush wanted to install with messican truckers , I am not going to go off half cocked on this either .... thats what the investigation is for

[Bronx33]

wow simply wow......

[Spider]

not once have you seen me try and defend Obama on this or claim there shouldnt be an investigation

[Spider]

wow simply wow......

LOL someone that swallows Epics bullshyt is wowed ........ color me shocked

[ant1999e]

LOL cant educate yourself until you get all the facts genius .....

Well then you should get the facts before posting instead of coming here and saying "I don't know what the **** I'm talking about so instead of making an intelligent post, I'll just be an asshole.

[ant1999e]

ROFL! oh Bullshyt , hell you didnt even get my post right when you did comment , how in he hell do you know what direction I have gone Hilarious!

So you talked shyt about barry instead of bush. Like I said, my point still stands. It isn't my fault it's over your head.

[Spider]

Well then you should get the facts before posting instead of coming here and saying "I don't know what the **** I'm talking about so instead of making an intelligent post, I'll just be an a-hole.

LOL I said I will wait until everything comes out ........I didnt say one thing for or against genius .........

[Spider]

So you talked shyt about barry instead of bush. Like I said, my point still stands. It isn't my fault it's over your head.

LMFAO you retard he only point you have is on top of your head

[ant1999e]

LMFAO you retard he only point you have is on top of your head

You're an idiot.

[Spider]

You're an idiot.

and you are a butt hurt drama queen , I wonder how many times you had to reread my post before you finally got it ........

[ant1999e]

and you are a butt hurt drama queen , I wonder how many times you had to reread my post before you finally got it ........

Dude, you wrote it and you still haven't got it.

BTW, have you hear about the latest in the Solyndra scandal? Apparently Spider don't know shyt about it and is either too lazy or too afraid of the truth to do any research on it. It's just getting crazier and crazier. :crazy::hitself::dummy:

[DBruleU]

And I am still smarter then you ......funny how that works

I have no doubt buddy.

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fast and furious been around before Obama , you know I waited until here was no wmd in Iraq before I blasted Bush , I waited on he pilot Program Bush wanted to install with messican truckers , I am not going to go off half cocked on this either .... thats what the investigation is for

I can agree with that. always good to get all the information you can before you make a decision.

[Spider]

Dude, you wrote it and you still haven't got it.

BTW, have you hear about the latest in the Solyndra scandal? Apparently Spider don't know shyt about it and is either too lazy or too afraid of the truth to do any research on it. It's just getting crazier and crazier. :crazy::hitself::dummy:

or i could be like my bedwetting friend here and get all butt hurt before we know everything

[Spider]

I have no doubt buddy.

LOL lets get all tickled cause spider typed then instead of than ........

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At best Solyndra is major admin fail, at worst outright corruption, either way it hurts Obama because it shows he blew it.

[Spider]

At best Solyndra is major admin fail, at worst outright corruption, either way it hurts Obama because it shows he blew it.

serious mismanagement I am just so cautious , I remember white water , FBI gate , zipper gate .....

[barryr]

The liberals like to deflect attention away from Obama and play attack the messenger, especially those liberals that are toothless, can't keep a marriage since play with desperate prostitutes, the state pays to raise their kids, and give the rest of the truckers a bad name to boot.

[Spider]

The liberals like to deflect attention away from Obama and play attack the messenger, especially those liberals that are toothless, can't keep a marriage since play with desperate prostitutes, the state pays to raise their kids, and give the rest of the truckers a bad name to boot.

so what are you saying ?

[broncocalijohn]

LOL lets get all tickled cause spider typed then instead of than ........

Spider, best to just ignore it instead of bringing it up. It wasn't just Gramma' police after you. It was the fact that the sentence stated you were smarter THEN him and yet he was smart enough to point out the ironic incorrect spelling. I was more THAN tickled, I was laughing.

[Spider]

Spider, best to just ignore it instead of bringing it up. It wasn't just Gramma' police after you. It was the fact that the sentence stated you were smarter THEN him and yet he was smart enough to point out the ironic incorrect spelling. I was more THAN tickled, I was laughing.

meh cut me some slack , these touch screen keyboards on these phones are a pain in the ass ;D

[Spider]

Spider, best to just ignore it instead of bringing it up. It wasn't just Gramma' police after you. It was the fact that the sentence stated you were smarter THEN him and yet he was smart enough to point out the ironic incorrect spelling. I was more THAN tickled, I was laughing.

LOL then this will really tickle you ..... there was no miss spelling genius ......... Hilarious!

[Spider]

Spider, best to just ignore it instead of bringing it up. It wasn't just Gramma' police after you. It was the fact that the sentence stated you were smarter THEN him and yet he was smart enough to point out the ironic incorrect spelling. I was more THAN tickled, I was laughing.

Hilarious! Dan Quayle is that you ?Hilarious!

[DBruleU]

You can always tell when Spider is drunk. He quotes and responds to the same post all within minutes of eachother and none of them make sense.

[broncocalijohn]

LOL then this will really tickle you ..... there was no miss spelling genius ......... Hilarious!

For your sake, please tell me this was a joke. I doubt you even get it which makes it classic. At least genius is on the spot. Congrats!

You can always tell when Spider is drunk. He quotes and responds to the same post all within minutes of eachother and none of them make sense.

I have no idea what he is dribbling about. But I will take it that he is drunk and hopefully he isnt driving a load for a supermarket at this moment. Posting, driving a big rig and drunk makes one hell of a bad combination.

[Spider]

For your sake, please tell me this was a joke. I doubt you even get it which makes it classic. At least genius is on the spot. Congrats!

ROFL! well then point it out

[Spider]

You can always tell when Spider is drunk. He quotes and responds to the same post all within minutes of eachother and none of them make sense.

ROFL! if those didnt make sense , then you are in sad shape

[broncocalijohn]

ROFL! well then point it out

OMG! Best not to tell you and let the ironic (now two posts) lay like sleeping dogs.

[baja]

At the request of a few middle school teachers I was called to the guidance counselor's office and after extensive testing I was declared a genius but I am a poor speller. Spelling ability is not related to innate intelligence so the laugh is on you.

[Spider]

At the request of a few middle school teachers I was called to the guidance counselor's office and after extensive testing I was declared a genius but I am a poor speller. Spelling ability is not related to innate intelligence so the laugh is on you.

Hilarious! and whats worse is , it wasnt misspelled just a misused word ..........the goof is just prancing around now ....he will realize it soon I hope

[broncocalijohn]

Hilarious! and whats worse is , it wasnt misspelled just a misused word ..........the goof is just prancing around now ....he will realize it soon I hope

Dont make excuses. You called someone out (2 of us) in a post that calls yourself smarter than one of the posters (DBRule) at the mane. It is completely ironic. Miss spelling is not misspelling. Just the word "misspelling" makes it funny as hell. Keep posting though on it. Pointing it out is classic. Take note parents that a high school diploma is key even for jobs that are more labor intensive.

Baja, let us face facts here. Spider's time seeing the school counselors were not to test how smart he was but why he was punching kids in the throat.

[Spider]

Dont make excuses. You called someone out (2 of us) in a post that calls yourself a genius. It is completely ironic. Miss spelling is not misspelling. Just the word "misspelling" makes it funny as hell. Keep posting though on it. Pointing it out is classic. Take note parents that a high school diploma is key even for jobs that are more labor intensive.

Hilarious! how is the word Then misspelled ?

[baja]

If she was married she would Mrs. Spelled

[broncocalijohn]

Hilarious! how is the word Then misspelled ?

Than oh boy

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Dont make excuses. You called someone out (2 of us) in a post that calls yourself smarter than one of the posters (DBRule) at the mane. It is completely ironic. Miss spelling is not misspelling. Just the word "misspelling" makes it funny as hell. Keep posting though on it. Pointing it out is classic. Take note parents that a high school diploma is key even for jobs that are more labor intensive.

Baja, let us face facts here. Spider's time seeing the school counselors were not to test how smart he was but why he was punching kids in the throat.

I'll take a smart person whose spelling isn't the greatest in the world over the willful ignorance of Glenn Beck lemmings like you everyday and twice on Sunday.

[broncocalijohn]

I'll take a smart person whose spelling isn't the greatest in the world over the willful ignorance of Glenn Beck lemmings like you everyday and twice on Sunday.

Good you came back. Now tell us about Obama and his WHS on this Green Job debacle. You always told everyone to answer the question and don't squeeze out of it by saying "someone else as a Democrat did it too". Here is your chance to stop walking the Dem line and be honest with how much of a major **** up this is. 1/2 billion dollar **** up! (Is this where you tell all of us that the war spends more than that every month?)

THis is going to be a major topic during the debates and he will need to answer for it. He failed at creating jobs from Green and failed at the loan to the company where it filed BK. Also seems to have taken Due Diligence on the company and throw it out the window.

Putting Spider in your camp as smart only dummies down your side. For his posts, it wasnt a misspelled word but how he called someone out for being dumber than him as he uses improper English and then can't figure it out! That is some funny and ironic ****!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Now tell us about Obama and his WHS on this Green Job debacle.

As soon as you tell us about your hero Dubya presiding over the first net job loss since Hoover and zero net job growth during his misadministration.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Here is your chance to stop walking the Dem line and be honest with how much of a major **** up this is. 1

Here's your chance to admit your party and your hero Dumbya left the economy in such a ruinous state that God couldn't fix it (which isn't to say Obama has made a sufficient effort.)

I know I won't be holding my breath...