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epicSocialism4tw
10-07-2011, 12:07 AM
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This guy plus Von Miller? Fuggedabout it.

I'm not sure where he's projected in the draft, but he looks like the second-best prospect of 2012 to me. Watch him take excellent angles to the ball and just blow people up. This is a pure MLB who savors the nasty grit in the wash on rushing plays. He'll get in the gap and blow up an offensive lineman like he's a wide receiver.

I really can't think of another MLB I have seen in recent years who is this much of an old school jaw-buster who plays with this much passion.

Now, I dont get much Pac 10 football here and I have only seen him play a few times, so I don't know if he is consistently this good. Maybe some of you guys who catch him weekly can fill us in.

BroncoMan4ever
10-07-2011, 12:10 AM
he is good but plays a little out of control sometimes. gets a good amount of stupid penalties as well. if he can avoid being taunted into committing those stupid penalties and can channel his aggression a little better he can be a perennial pro bowler MLB in the mold of a Ray Lewis which would be awesome in Denver.

his addition would undoubtedly make DJ the weak link in the LB corps.

epicSocialism4tw
10-07-2011, 12:10 AM
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epicSocialism4tw
10-07-2011, 12:11 AM
he is good but plays a little out of control sometimes. gets a good amount of stupid penalties as well. if he can avoid being taunted into committing those stupid penalties and can channel his aggression a little better he can be a perennial pro bowler MLB in the mold of a Ray Lewis which would be awesome in Denver.

his addition would undoubtedly make DJ the weak link in the LB corps.

That's not a bad weak link. DJ still has speed and could play OLB.

We'd potentially have the best run defense in the league within 2 years after the draft if Vontaze even became a solid starter type. He looks like a pure run defender with a nasty streak.

epicSocialism4tw
10-07-2011, 12:26 AM
The Meanest Man in College Football:

“For every great story you have about Vontaze,” says Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck, “another guy on another team will say he has one better.”

“I know one thing,” says Oregon State coach Mike Riley. “Somebody is taking a blow every play (Burfict is) on the field.”


From near academic casualty to a player former USC coach Pete Carroll whined about upon losing the recruiting battle to Arizona State, Burfict now is arguably the most gifted—and complicated—player in the game.



"...the play against Washington in 2009, when Burfict shot the gap on a fly sweep, knocked the guard off his feet and made the tackle. During film study, coaches replayed the moment over and over in sheer disbelief.


“I swear to God, he decleated a 325-pound guy,” Moos says. “You wouldn’t believe it if it wasn’t on film.”

Or the play last year against Oregon, a game many NFL scouts say defines Burfict’s talent—which lies in his ability to chase and pursue from one side of the play to the other without giving up ground or explosive power—because the Ducks run read option plays where the quarterback reads the defensive tackle and directs the flow of the play away from his pursuit.

Burfict shot the gap, knocking Oregon guard Carson York into the backfield and forcing Ducks quarterback Darron Thomas to commit to handing off to tailback LaMichael James. Burfict then tackled both York and James—460-plus pounds of player—at the same time for a 5-yard loss.

“You’re thinking he can’t do that,” former Oregon center Jordan Holmes says, “and then he does it, and you’re left thinking, Holy cow.”


Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-07-28/the-meanest-man-in-college-football-vontaze-burfict#ixzz1a4hPraJE




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This guy idolizes Dick Butkus and Ray Lewis. He's 6'3" 250 and hits like a ton of bricks. I don't think I have seen another player in college hit like this guy. There is so much power in his lean. He's going to make running backs pay in the NFL.

Borks147
10-07-2011, 12:34 AM
if we get him, it'd be a shame if Dawkins isnt around anymore - people would look back in awe that those two guys once played on the same team.

Popps
10-07-2011, 12:41 AM
Seems like a long time since there was a legit #1 MLB coming out.
I'd love this kind of a pick.

Shananahan
10-07-2011, 12:42 AM
I read he might make a run at the Heisman.

Tyrant
10-07-2011, 12:43 AM
he is good but plays a little out of control sometimes. gets a good amount of stupid penalties as well. if he can avoid being taunted into committing those stupid penalties and can channel his aggression a little better he can be a perennial pro bowler MLB in the mold of a Ray Lewis

A little?? ASU beats Stanford last year if Vontaze keeps his cool. He's a massive head case.

However, he and Miller on the same team might literally kill a qb someday.

epicSocialism4tw
10-07-2011, 12:48 AM
A little?? ASU beats Stanford last year if Vontaze keeps his cool. He's a massive head case.

However, he and Miller on the same time might literally kill a qb someday.

I like that he's a bit of a head case. He plays like he's furious. He's like the real Bobby Bouchet.

Troy Polamalu was criticized in that exact same way at USC. Polamalu too is a really soft spoken guy who flips a switch and becomes the most violent player on the field between the whistles. This guy has that Polamalu mentality in the body of a freak MLB.

I havent been keeping up with draft scouting up to this point, but I can't imagine that he's much lower than 2 or 3 on most people's boards.

epicSocialism4tw
10-07-2011, 12:56 AM
if we get him, it'd be a shame if Dawkins isnt around anymore - people would look back in awe that those two guys once played on the same team.

I'd love to see he and Dawkins flying at the LOS, just blowing people up.

UberBroncoMan
10-07-2011, 03:25 AM
Nate Irving can't be happy about this.

On a side note. Tampa Bay has their 3rd round MLB starting for them. While I like Mays for his hits, he's not a long-term solution.

Ratboy
10-07-2011, 03:29 AM
I'd love to see he and Dawkins flying at the LOS, just blowing people up.

Better than watching some receiver blow right by Dawkins.

SleepingTiger
10-07-2011, 09:05 AM
What is more important to a run defense? A great MLB or a great NT/DT. Some of the best run defense in the league feature a great MLB.

goldengopher1976
10-07-2011, 09:10 AM
You wanna bring back the Orange Crush? Here it is:
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This guy plus Von Miller? Fuggedabout it.

I'm not sure where he's projected in the draft, but he looks like the second-best prospect of 2012 to me. Watch him take excellent angles to the ball and just blow people up. This is a pure MLB who savors the nasty grit in the wash on rushing plays. He'll get in the gap and blow up an offensive lineman like he's a wide receiver.

I really can't think of another MLB I have seen in recent years who is this much of an old school jaw-buster who plays with this much passion.

Now, I dont get much Pac 10 football here and I have only seen him play a few times, so I don't know if he is consistently this good. Maybe some of you guys who catch him weekly can fill us in.


He's #11 on Kiper's "Big Board", who has this to say about Burfict:

Burfict has great instincts, makes plays sideline to sideline and is far more disciplined than he gets credit for. Has a ton of experience and will draw comparisons to many of the elite middle linebackers.

robbieopperude
10-07-2011, 09:19 AM
I have been saying for a while this would be the ideal pick for Denver if we fall in that 5 to 10 drafting position. If we end up a little higher I would like to see Elway trade back out of the top 5 and take him. There isn't a DT ranked very highly currently and I don't like reaching on DT's in Round 1. Lets take Burfict and go DT in Round 2.

The other guys on my list are Kirkpatrick from Bama and Janoris Jenkins formerly of Florida if we finish around pick 10. We need to draft D all day this year unless Kalil or Martin are available with our first pick and Burfict is gone.

Houshyamama
10-07-2011, 09:20 AM
As an ASU alum I've been watching him closely. Dude is just plain nasty. He's a man among boys out there, very similar to Terrell Suggs in that sense. You just know they're gonna succeed at the next level.

Killericon
10-07-2011, 09:22 AM
I don't care where we pick...But I don't understand how anyone, ever, could think we should take anything other than a DT.

FFS, people, it's been forever.

bowtown
10-07-2011, 09:25 AM
Nate Irving can't be happy about this.

On a side note. Tampa Bay has their 3rd round MLB starting for them. While I like Mays for his hits, he's not a long-term solution.

Yeah I'm sure Irving super depressed about llama's thread on the Mane.

Rabb
10-07-2011, 09:32 AM
I don't care where we pick...But I don't understand how anyone, ever, could think we should take anything other than a DT.

FFS, people, it's been forever.

I don't think DT is even top 3 in our immediate needs department right now personally

phibacka31
10-07-2011, 09:33 AM
IMO he looks like a player the Ravens will droll over...
I wouldn't mind having some of that...:thumbs:

TheReverend
10-07-2011, 09:37 AM
Burfict would be an amazing get and I've loved this guys progress this season as far as discipline and heady play are considered. I do still think it's a matter of time before he loses it and costs his team a game in penalties lol but even then, still a worthwhile top half selection for sure.

But him AND Miller? We'd be every bit as soft vs the pass as we are with Mays and Miller.

Besides, we're going with Luck

DENVERDUI55
10-07-2011, 09:49 AM
You wanna bring back the Orange Crush? Here it is:
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This guy plus Von Miller? Fuggedabout it.

I'm not sure where he's projected in the draft, but he looks like the second-best prospect of 2012 to me. Watch him take excellent angles to the ball and just blow people up. This is a pure MLB who savors the nasty grit in the wash on rushing plays. He'll get in the gap and blow up an offensive lineman like he's a wide receiver.

I really can't think of another MLB I have seen in recent years who is this much of an old school jaw-buster who plays with this much passion.

Now, I dont get much Pac 10 football here and I have only seen him play a few times, so I don't know if he is consistently this good. Maybe some of you guys who catch him weekly can fill us in.

He won't be a good pro. He is Rey Malauga. His speed is questionable and misses a lot of tackles.

Powderaddict
10-07-2011, 09:52 AM
I don't care where we pick...But I don't understand how anyone, ever, could think we should take anything other than a DT.

FFS, people, it's been forever.

If there are no standout DT's but you have explosive difference makers, you have to go with the difference maker. Plus, I'd really like to see Bunk get an extension. He's been very good.

Drafting a player to high because you have a need is how you end up with guys like Jarvis Moss.

Inkana7
10-07-2011, 11:04 AM
Why would we take him over Andrew Luck at #1?

Dagmar
10-07-2011, 11:07 AM
Draft this guy, resign Bunkley, draft a DT in the 2nd secondary from then on... RB thrown in in the 4th. Tebow as QB. 2012 would be pretty good.

Houshyamama
10-07-2011, 11:11 AM
He won't be a good pro. He is Rey Malauga. His speed is questionable and misses a lot of tackles.

He may not be a good pro, who knows... but the bolded part is garbage.

gyldenlove
10-07-2011, 11:30 AM
I really like him as a 2 down guy, but I just don't see him as the type of MLB you take in the top half of round 1. He looks like a better run defender than Rolando Mclain but nowhere near as solid in pass coverage.

Requiem
10-07-2011, 11:39 AM
Vontaze, even in his own class isn't regarded as the best ILB. There is no consensus there, and if he came out in this draft he would not be worth the Top 10 selection we will be having. He is not a disciplined enough player and his weaknesses against the pass negate from him being such a high profile selection. This is quite an early projection, but it's quite possible he doesn't even get drafted in the first round if he declares.

I'd rather Manti Te'o be the MLB of the future for the Denver Broncos. 49 tackles, 6 for loss and four sacks already this college football season. I have no doubts that he will man the MIKE position for the team that drafts him for a decade.

Te'o > Burfict

Dagmar
10-07-2011, 11:42 AM
I'll jump on the bandwagon for anyone who will finally replace Al Wilson.

Cleo McDowell
10-07-2011, 11:56 AM
Draft this guy, resign Bunkley, draft a DT in the 2nd secondary from then on... RB thrown in in the 4th. Tebow as QB. 2012 would be pretty good.

YES

epicSocialism4tw
10-07-2011, 02:38 PM
He may not be a good pro, who knows... but the bolded part is garbage.

It also doesn't seem true to form that the guy said that he doesn't have speed. He seems to do just fine in that department at the college level, and I wouldn't be surprised if he has a nice 40 time.

You usually aren't looking for your MLB to be a burner anyway. You want him to have instincts and fill up gaps quickly, which Burfict seems to do with little effort.

The guy is really powerful. There is some snap to his hitting that really turns your head. It makes him hard to block in the open field. He'll just throw/push a blocker aside or sometimes just blow them up, propelling them backward into the ball carrier. I haven't seen anything like it.

vancejohnson82
10-07-2011, 02:41 PM
Vontaze, even in his own class isn't regarded as the best ILB. There is no consensus there, and if he came out in this draft he would not be worth the Top 10 selection we will be having. He is not a disciplined enough player and his weaknesses against the pass negate from him being such a high profile selection. This is quite an early projection, but it's quite possible he doesn't even get drafted in the first round if he declares.

I'd rather Manti Te'o be the MLB of the future for the Denver Broncos. 49 tackles, 6 for loss and four sacks already this college football season. I have no doubts that he will man the MIKE position for the team that drafts him for a decade.

Te'o > Burfict

According to Kiper he is the highest rated LB....maybe not consensus, but someone has him up there

vonqkilla
10-07-2011, 02:42 PM
He looks like a ray lewis clone the way he jumps the count, ala ray in san diego. One of my favorite plays ever.

epicSocialism4tw
10-07-2011, 02:45 PM
I really like him as a 2 down guy, but I just don't see him as the type of MLB you take in the top half of round 1. He looks like a better run defender than Rolando Mclain but nowhere near as solid in pass coverage.

He looks like he is a better blitzer than McClain, and I really haven't seen anything to justify calling him a 2-down linebacker based on his pass coverage skills. Looking at both guys, its easy to see that Bufict is a superior prospect to McClain.

Carmelo15
10-07-2011, 02:46 PM
My hope is Burfict Rd 1, Ray Ray Armstrong Rd 2 to replace Dawkins. While I like Quinton Carter, Ray Ray will be a playmaker in the league, something we need more of on both sides of the ball. But Vontaze & Ray Ray would be my ideal draft. Manti Te'o & Alameda Ta'amu are both very high on my list. Te'o isn't as flashy as Burfict but he's more instinctual. Burfict is more Al Wilson, Te'o reminds me of a DeMeco Ryans. Alameda Ta'amu is a straight 350 run-stuffing monster from Washington. it's possible we could nab him in the 2nd bit not likely. In the 3rd watch out for Lamar Miller RB, Miami. His combination speed, vision & power could make him an elite player at the NFL level

epicSocialism4tw
10-07-2011, 02:47 PM
According to Kiper he is the highest rated LB....maybe not consensus, but someone has him up there

I just went and looked, and there are alot of people who have Burfict as a top 5 overall prospect, some as high as the #2 prospect.

epicSocialism4tw
10-07-2011, 02:48 PM
My hope is Burfict Rd 1, Ray Ray Armstrong Rd 2 to replace Dawkins. While I like Quinton Carter, Ray Ray will be a playmaker in the league, something we need more of on both sides of the ball. But Vontaze & Ray Ray would be my ideal draft. Manti Te'o & Alameda Ta'amu are both very high on my list. Te'o isn't as flashy as Burfict but he's more instinctual. Burfict is more Al Wilson, Te'o reminds me of a DeMeco Ryans. Alameda Ta'amu is a straight 350 run-stuffing monster from Washington. it's possible we could nab him in the 2nd bit not likely. In the 3rd watch out for Lamar Miller RB, Miami. His combination speed, vision & power could make him an elite player at the NFL level

Apparently Lamar Miller is moving up the pile...like first round material for some people.

schaaf
10-07-2011, 03:23 PM
Vontaze, even in his own class isn't regarded as the best ILB. There is no consensus there, and if he came out in this draft he would not be worth the Top 10 selection we will be having. He is not a disciplined enough player and his weaknesses against the pass negate from him being such a high profile selection. This is quite an early projection, but it's quite possible he doesn't even get drafted in the first round if he declares.

I'd rather Manti Te'o be the MLB of the future for the Denver Broncos. 49 tackles, 6 for loss and four sacks already this college football season. I have no doubts that he will man the MIKE position for the team that drafts him for a decade.

Te'o > Burfict

Vontaze definitely gets a lot of big plays. But, after watching a couple games he doesn't get the amount of tackles I would like out of a franchise MLB. He seems to disappear for a couple plays and then bam he's back with a big hit but he's very streaky

GoBroncos84
10-07-2011, 03:31 PM
My wish list for the draft has been:

1- Andrew Luck
2- Vontaze Burfict
3- Trent Richardson


I doubt we pick #1, so Luck is out. That leaves Burfict as the guy I most want in the draft next year

oubronco
10-07-2011, 03:34 PM
Don't we have player like this in Irving?

gyldenlove
10-07-2011, 03:39 PM
He looks like he is a better blitzer than McClain, and I really haven't seen anything to justify calling him a 2-down linebacker based on his pass coverage skills. Looking at both guys, its easy to see that Bufict is a superior prospect to McClain.

How often do you blitz the MLB when you have Von Miller at SLB? He is not going to be moved to DE in the nickel package so unless he can pass cover he will be a 2-down guy.

schaaf
10-07-2011, 03:41 PM
Don't we have player like this in Irving?

we really have no way to tell, coaches are the only ones who would have an idea. Earlier this year I asked Andrew Mason if he thought Irving has the potential to be a starter, and his answer was yes, but that he was hurt by the lack of an offseason and OTA's.

I really like Irving, I hope we can see what he has and that the coaches make a good decision on him.

Carmelo15
10-07-2011, 05:39 PM
Irving's ceiling is a borderline starter. Burfict & Te'o are potential all-pro/pro bowl type guys

enjolras
10-07-2011, 05:58 PM
That Irving (even as a rookie) can't get on the field in front of Mays is very telling. I think the mike is THE biggest position of need on the whole team. This defense goes from decent to pretty good if that position could be shored up.

Popps
10-07-2011, 06:14 PM
I'd love to have a real enforcer back on the defense. Imagine having to account for Doom, Miller and a guy like this on every play.

maher_tyler
10-07-2011, 06:17 PM
A little?? ASU beats Stanford last year if Vontaze keeps his cool. He's a massive head case.

However, he and Miller on the same team might literally kill a qb someday.

I'll take it!

Lestat
10-07-2011, 06:17 PM
he's gonna be a very good pro. he's got a nasty streak in him and loves to inflict pain on the opponent.

Requiem
10-07-2011, 06:20 PM
According to Kiper he is the highest rated LB....maybe not consensus, but someone has him up there

Some do. Some have Teo and Luke Kuechly over him as well. Actually, most reputable places do. Burfict is not a Top 10 player in this draft, especially when he isn't the top at his position (note all those guys are 2013 ILB, like him). I'm not hating on Burfict either, just stating what is out there.

ILB is a real position of need considering Mays is a FA after this year anyways and I wouldn't count on Nate Irving at all. We whiffed on that one, especially when Mason Foster is producing madly for Tampa Bay.

The best all around linebacker out of the three is Luke, because he plays the pass so well and has top-notch instincts. I like Teo's discipline and instincts better than Burfict's, and feel he plays the run better than Luke, but that guy is in on every down making an impact. Burfict is the most aggressive of the three, but that doesn't mean he is the best.

Burfict is no Ray Lewis and is not a blue-chip prospect.

With that said, if we were able to net him somewhere outside the Top 25, go for it. Not before. The other two are better.

Houshyamama
10-07-2011, 06:33 PM
It also doesn't seem true to form that the guy said that he doesn't have speed. He seems to do just fine in that department at the college level, and I wouldn't be surprised if he has a nice 40 time.

You usually aren't looking for your MLB to be a burner anyway. You want him to have instincts and fill up gaps quickly, which Burfict seems to do with little effort.

The guy is really powerful. There is some snap to his hitting that really turns your head. It makes him hard to block in the open field. He'll just throw/push a blocker aside or sometimes just blow them up, propelling them backward into the ball carrier. I haven't seen anything like it.

As long as we keep talking about football and not science or politics, you and I get a long just fine!

Popps
10-07-2011, 08:21 PM
Some do. Some have Teo and Luke Kuechly over him as well. Actually, most reputable places do. Burfict is not a Top 10 player in this draft, especially when he isn't the top at his position (note all those guys are 2013 ILB, like him). I'm not hating on Burfict either, just stating what is out there.

ILB is a real position of need considering Mays is a FA after this year anyways and I wouldn't count on Nate Irving at all. We whiffed on that one, especially when Mason Foster is producing madly for Tampa Bay.

The best all around linebacker out of the three is Luke, because he plays the pass so well and has top-notch instincts. I like Teo's discipline and instincts better than Burfict's, and feel he plays the run better than Luke, but that guy is in on every down making an impact. Burfict is the most aggressive of the three, but that doesn't mean he is the best.

Burfict is no Ray Lewis and is not a blue-chip prospect.

With that said, if we were able to net him somewhere outside the Top 25, go for it. Not before. The other two are better.

So, how would you compare him to Maualuga? From your description, it almost sounds like you think he's that kind of player.

Requiem
10-07-2011, 09:46 PM
So, how would you compare him to Maualuga? From your description, it almost sounds like you think he's that kind of player.

Quite similar, but I think that Burfict has the edge as far as athleticism goes. The most glaring similarity is their weaknesses: lack of discipline and poor pass coverage. If Denver wants an ILB, they are going to have to find one who can cover the pass. Mays has been used in this role and been terrible. I think Burfict would breed the same problems already present on the roster.

It's Luke or Teo for me at ILB in this class if we're going to use a first-rounder on one because they have to be a three down player.

If Denver wants a two-down thumper, they don't have to pick one in the first three rounds. It would be pointless.

Broncobiv
10-07-2011, 10:58 PM
I just like him because his name is already a combination of his own + Von Miller. In fact, draft him, and VonDoom still works!

epicSocialism4tw
10-07-2011, 11:03 PM
I just like him because his name is already a combination of his own + Von Miller. In fact, draft him, and VonDoom still works!

Vontaze = Von + taze

Someone needs to photoshop Von's head on top of the "dont taze me bro" guy

smoke4815162342
10-08-2011, 12:24 AM
He wears #7 because of John Elway, and is a diehard Broncos fans. I know him personally.

24champ
10-08-2011, 12:36 AM
He wears #7 because of John Elway, and is a diehard Broncos fans. I know him personally.

Yes, and Jack Elway had the #7 before Burfict.

smoke4815162342
10-08-2011, 12:48 AM
Yes, and Jack Elway had the #7 before Burfict.

he sure did, if Jack hadn't quit football, he likely would have been the starter for the 2009 season

epicSocialism4tw
10-08-2011, 12:54 AM
He wears #7 because of John Elway, and is a diehard Broncos fans. I know him personally.

Ah, so its a done deal then. :thumbsup:

CEH
10-08-2011, 09:43 AM
I think if Denver is in the 2nd half of the top 10 their top target will be the DT from Clemson Brandon Thompson. Disruptive force who rarely is off his feet

You can find top LBer help in the 2nd round or late first in a small trade up.

Top end DTs are harder to find

teknic
10-08-2011, 02:25 PM
I think if Denver is in the 2nd half of the top 10 their top target will be the DT from Clemson Brandon Thompson. Disruptive force who rarely is off his feet

You can find top LBer help in the 2nd round or late first in a small trade up.

Top end DTs are harder to find

I 100% disagree with you. Look around the league. The majority of starting DTs were drafted late or undrafted. DTs tend to be busts quite often. So unless a DT is far and away the best prospect available for us to draft, I'd rather draft one late instead of wasting a high pick.

teknic
10-08-2011, 02:49 PM
He wears #7 because of John Elway, and is a diehard Broncos fans. I know him personally.

If I wasn't sold on the guy already, I definitely am now.

Rahim Moore was a Broncos fan growing up too.

Requiem
10-08-2011, 02:56 PM
If I wasn't sold on the guy already, I definitely am now.

Rahim Moore was a Broncos fan growing up too.

What if Vinne Testaverde would have grown up a Broncos fan, would you have wanted him too?

How about the one-legged receiver from Abeliene Christian?

The one-eyed right tackle from Miami of Ohio?

schaaf
10-08-2011, 03:02 PM
What if Vinne Testaverde would have grown up a Broncos fan, would you have wanted him too?

How about the one-legged receiver from Abeliene Christian?

The one-eyed right tackle from Miami of Ohio?

**** yeah man being em all in!

Drunk Monkey
10-09-2011, 09:43 AM
Vontaze, even in his own class isn't regarded as the best ILB. There is no consensus there, and if he came out in this draft he would not be worth the Top 10 selection we will be having. He is not a disciplined enough player and his weaknesses against the pass negate from him being such a high profile selection. This is quite an early projection, but it's quite possible he doesn't even get drafted in the first round if he declares.

I'd rather Manti Te'o be the MLB of the future for the Denver Broncos. 49 tackles, 6 for loss and four sacks already this college football season. I have no doubts that he will man the MIKE position for the team that drafts him for a decade.

Te'o > Burfict

After watching the ND Air Force game yesterday I am on the Te'o bandwagon. Great speed, good instincts, didn't miss tackles. The option offense that Air Force runs gives the MLB plenty of opportunities to make plays. It was fun to watch him out there.

Requiem
10-09-2011, 12:52 PM
After watching the ND Air Force game yesterday I am on the Te'o bandwagon. Great speed, good instincts, didn't miss tackles. The option offense that Air Force runs gives the MLB plenty of opportunities to make plays. It was fun to watch him out there.

I'm glad you enjoyed watching him! :)

McDman
10-09-2011, 01:00 PM
Yeah I'm sure Irving super depressed about llama's thread on the Mane.

Hahahaha.

The poor guy, how could we do this to him?

McDman
10-09-2011, 01:05 PM
As long as we keep talking about football and not science or politics, you and I get a long just fine!

Obama sucks.

Bush is racist.

Enough to derail the thread?

Liebs
10-09-2011, 05:39 PM
also an asu alum and I watch the games closely. he is weak in coverage and has played tentative all year. he's still a top 15 pick though. go devils beat oregon!

Requiem
10-09-2011, 05:51 PM
also an asu alum and I watch the games closely. he is weak in coverage and has played tentative all year. he's still a top 15 pick though. go devils beat oregon!

He is not going in the Top 15.

DENVERDUI55
10-16-2011, 09:50 AM
He looks like he is a better blitzer than McClain, and I really haven't seen anything to justify calling him a 2-down linebacker based on his pass coverage skills. Looking at both guys, its easy to see that Bufict is a superior prospect to McClain.

Dude you have seen ZERO ASU games. I can tell by how good you think Vontaze is. Sure he makes big hits but he rarely makes plays and is invisible for a lot of the games. Put that with slow speed and bad pass coverage and you got a 2 down LB.

Rohirrim
10-16-2011, 09:52 AM
Why would we take him over Andrew Luck at #1?

My thoughts exactly. ;D

DENVERDUI55
10-16-2011, 09:54 AM
Kirk Herb did little stint on #7 last night how he was supposed to be best defensive player in the draft in the preseason and was far from that. Talked about how he had to be more consistant, smart and actually make plays. His analysis was spot on so whoever wrote it up for him must know his stuff.

epicSocialism4tw
10-16-2011, 09:57 AM
Dude you have seen ZERO ASU games. I can tell by how good you think Vontaze is. Sure he makes big hits but he rarely makes plays and is invisible for a lot of the games. Put that with slow speed and bad pass coverage and you got a 2 down LB.

You should have read the first post in the thread.

smoke4815162342
10-16-2011, 10:21 AM
Burfict has lost a lot of his speed since freshmen year, and has been a disappointment this year even though he is still playing at a high level.

Agamemnon
10-16-2011, 11:13 AM
If we're going to draft a MLB with a top 10 pick he better be on par with Patrick Willis. This guy? Don't make me laugh...

Requiem
10-16-2011, 11:16 AM
If we're going to draft a MLB with a top 10 pick he better be on par with Patrick Willis. This guy? Don't make me laugh...

Epic is just playing the flavor of the week game like he does in the politics forum so he can say he made some great visionary draft call.

Last week, Burfict.

This week, Trent Richardson.

Next week: . . .

Drek
10-16-2011, 02:49 PM
I can't believe people are talking about Burfict in the top 10. He's probably not a first rounder.

I love Te'o (big ND homer) but he's no Patrick Willis. I'm not sure if he's a better prospect than Lauriniatis, who was a 2nd rounder.

ILBs do not go in the first unless they're absolutely, unquestionably, all world. There is no such guy in the 2012 draft class.

We'll probably have our choice between Burfict, Te'o, and maybe even Kuechly with our 2nd rounder.

Requiem
10-16-2011, 02:57 PM
I can't believe people are talking about Burfict in the top 10. He's probably not a first rounder.

I love Te'o (big ND homer) but he's no Patrick Willis. I'm not sure if he's a better prospect than Lauriniatis, who was a 2nd rounder.

ILBs do not go in the first unless they're absolutely, unquestionably, all world. There is no such guy in the 2012 draft class.

We'll probably have our choice between Burfict, Te'o, and maybe even Kuechly with our 2nd rounder.

Kuechly has been an unprecedented LB in college football over the past several years. He is easily one of the best players defensively and will play as long and be as productive as Brian Urlacher. No doubt. He plays every down with fire, passion and intensity. I have not seen someone this good in a very, very long time.

Drek
10-16-2011, 03:30 PM
Kuechly has been an unprecedented LB in college football over the past several years. He is easily one of the best players defensively and will play as long and be as productive as Brian Urlacher. No doubt. He plays every down with fire, passion and intensity. I have not seen someone this good in a very, very long time.

Kuechly I could see winding up in the first round, but his combine numbers have to pack up his game tape if he's going to make the top 15. I'm a huge fan of Te'o but I'd be surprised if he went anywhere before the early 2nd, which is where Burfict falls to me as well.

Popps
10-16-2011, 03:38 PM
Drek,

And you're not on the podcast... why again?

schaaf
10-16-2011, 03:51 PM
Epic is just playing the flavor of the week game like he does in the politics forum so he can say he made some great visionary draft call.

Last week, Burfict.

This week, Trent Richardson.

Next week: . . .

I'm calling it... BROCK OSWEILER

Requiem
10-16-2011, 03:59 PM
Kuechly I could see winding up in the first round, but his combine numbers have to pack up his game tape if he's going to make the top 15. I'm a huge fan of Te'o but I'd be surprised if he went anywhere before the early 2nd, which is where Burfict falls to me as well.

Kuechly is a first-round lock. A guy who has 99 tackles in 6 games isn't going to have to depend on the combine to do well. He's averaged ~175-180 tackles every year and he can play the pass. He's great. I think Teo can go in the first round as well, probably in the 20-32 range.

DENVERDUI55
03-17-2012, 12:39 AM
I have been telling you guys all season this guy is a hack. I was thinking a 4 th rd pick or later but he is going to be udfa in my opinion now. Where is llama blowing him now?

Ratboy
03-17-2012, 01:07 AM
UDFA would be good value.

Kaylore
03-17-2012, 01:08 AM
I have been telling you guys all season this guy is a hack. I was thinking a 4 th rd pick or later but he is going to be udfa in my opinion now. Where is llama blowing him now?

Drama Llama doesn't post anymore and this place is better for it. And lol at his op.

Ratboy
03-17-2012, 01:10 AM
I'm glad some of these guys are not our General Manager.

We would be ****ed.

DENVERDUI55
03-17-2012, 01:17 AM
Drama Llama doesn't post anymore and this place is better for it. And lol at his op.

Did he get banned I hope?

cutthemdown
03-17-2012, 01:32 AM
Talk about a nosedive. Sounds like this kid just a mess, But yeah back 2 yrs ago he was the talk of the pac 10 right?

SJ Bronco
03-17-2012, 01:58 AM
As a huge pac-12 guy, I have seen A LOT of Burfict. Let me tell you something. Too say that this kid is good, is an understatement. To say he is a little out of control, is like saying Barry Bonds took a few drugs. That kid is certifiable. He also is amazing. It is hard to watch really. He will dominate a game from the Middle linebacker spot like a Ray Lewis in his prime, but then he gives it all back on a personal fowl and an ejection when he goes nuts on a Referee for calling an offsides. I mean, I can't even do justice to the kind of wacked out, out of his MIND this kid is!!! If they can find some sort of medication that will even him out, and still get the results. Sure, but other than that, stay AWAY from this kid!

DENVERDUI55
03-17-2012, 02:02 AM
As a huge pac-12 guy, I have seen A LOT of Burfict. Let me tell you something. Too say that this kid is good, is an understatement. To say he is a little out of control, is like saying Barry Bonds took a few drugs. That kid is certifiable. He also is amazing. It is hard to watch really. He will dominate a game from the Middle linebacker spot like a Ray Lewis in his prime, but then he gives it all back on a personal fowl and an ejection when he goes nuts on a Referee for calling an offsides. I mean, I can't even do justice to the kind of wacked out, out of his MIND this kid is!!! If they can find some sort of medication that will even him out, and still get the results. Sure, but other than that, stay AWAY from this kid!

Other than his 5.0 forty speed, missed tackles, lost in space zone coverage and even his coaches BENCHING him in las Vegas bowl he would be great. What do I know though OM posters know more than college and pro coaches.

ZONA
03-17-2012, 02:05 AM
Other than his 5.0 forty speed, missed tackles, lost in space zone coverage and even his coaches BENCHING him in las Vegas bowl he would be great. What do I know though OM posters know more than college and pro coaches.

Don't forget the media interviews his coaches instructed him to intentionally miss because of their fear of him saying really stupid schit.

Yeah, other then all of that crap combined, he could be a decent player.........nah. Dudes a joke.

Broncos_OTM
03-17-2012, 03:04 AM
I have been telling you guys all season this guy is a hack. I was thinking a 4 th rd pick or later but he is going to be udfa in my opinion now. Where is llama blowing him now?

Feel free to link this

Bronco Rob
03-17-2012, 05:48 AM
Right on!




















<---------------

TonyR
03-17-2012, 08:43 AM
Drama Llama doesn't post anymore...

Does anyone know why?

DENVERDUI55
03-17-2012, 08:51 AM
Don't forget the media interviews his coaches instructed him to intentionally miss because of their fear of him saying really stupid schit.

Yeah, other then all of that crap combined, he could be a decent player.........nah. Dudes a joke.

I did forget that th e interview where he blamed coaches for his decline.

SJ Bronco
03-17-2012, 10:06 AM
Other than his 5.0 forty speed, missed tackles, lost in space zone coverage and even his coaches BENCHING him in las Vegas bowl he would be great. What do I know though OM posters know more than college and pro coaches.

You know who was an amazing athlete, Ryan Leaf. Speed doesn't make a football player. Oh, and you missed the part where I said we SHOULDN'T get him. Stay awake captain.

Requiem
03-17-2012, 10:37 AM
Does anyone know why?

Cause he's a fat loser who ate his keyboard when he mistaked it for an oreo cookie.

txtebow
03-17-2012, 11:46 AM
If he's available in the 3rd round at our pick you need to gamble. His physicality is off the charts ...at worst we have a special teams hammer. At best we have a mike singletary type....

DENVERDUI55
03-17-2012, 11:49 AM
If he's available in the 3rd round at our pick you need to gamble. His physicality is off the charts ...at worst we have a special teams hammer. At best we have a mike singletary type....

Why draft him there when you could get him for free.

ScottXray
03-17-2012, 11:53 AM
Why draft him there when you could get him for free.

IF we draft him at any level over a 7 pick then we have no skills at scouting.

Yes he has potential ...to try to get a payday.

This kid is the very definition of a loose cannon.

DENVERDUI55
03-17-2012, 02:11 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/16/vontaze-burfict-bombs-his-pro-day-too/

Kaylore
03-17-2012, 05:02 PM
Does anyone know why?

I do not know, and I do not care.






I'll pull down your underwear.

theAPAOps5
03-17-2012, 05:05 PM
I do not know, and I do not care.






I'll pull down your underwear.

LOL what?

orangeatheist
03-17-2012, 05:10 PM
Does anyone know why?

He was incredibly prolific the 18th of January trying to force people to "admit" that they didn't like Tebow because he is overtly Christian. Trust me, drama LOVES that angle. Then, suddenly, he was gone.

I'm going with "raptured" until I hear differently.

Kaylore
03-17-2012, 05:28 PM
He was incredibly prolific the 18th of January trying to force people to "admit" that they didn't like Tebow because he is overtly Christian. Trust me, drama LOVES that angle. Then, suddenly, he was gone.

I'm going with "raptured" until I hear differently.

Yeah. I remember that. He accused me of hating all Christians and said I have an extensive history ripping on evangelicals. I asked him to provide proof in a quote that could be taken as such and he never returned.

CHANGSTER
04-15-2012, 03:50 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/15/burfict-gets-the-cold-shoulder/

"No one's Burfict" :giggle:

Rohirrim
04-15-2012, 05:18 PM
You wanna bring back the Orange Crush? Here it is:
<EMBED height=360 type=application/x-shockwave-flash width=640 src=http://www.youtube.com/v/KvcsffTQojI?version=3 allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always">

This guy plus Von Miller? Fuggedabout it.

I'm not sure where he's projected in the draft, but he looks like the second-best prospect of 2012 to me. Watch him take excellent angles to the ball and just blow people up. This is a pure MLB who savors the nasty grit in the wash on rushing plays. He'll get in the gap and blow up an offensive lineman like he's a wide receiver.

I really can't think of another MLB I have seen in recent years who is this much of an old school jaw-buster who plays with this much passion.

Now, I dont get much Pac 10 football here and I have only seen him play a few times, so I don't know if he is consistently this good. Maybe some of you guys who catch him weekly can fill us in.

Ouch! I guess drama llama had a good reason for taking off.

Lestat
04-15-2012, 05:21 PM
snatch his ass up in the 7th or as a UDFA. if he acts like a idiot then cut his ass and be done. he has talent, a coach just needs to jump his ass and get him to listen.
if only we had a Bobby Knight type...

DENVERDUI55
04-15-2012, 08:42 PM
I'm not sure where he's projected in the draft, but he looks like the second-best prospect of 2012 to me. Watch him take excellent angles to the ball and just blow people up. This is a pure MLB who savors the nasty grit in the wash on rushing plays. He'll get in the gap and blow up an offensive lineman like he's a wide receiver.

I really can't think of another MLB I have seen in recent years who is this much of an old school jaw-buster who plays with this much passion.

Now, I dont get much Pac 10 football here and I have only seen him play a few times, so I don't know if he is consistently this good. Maybe some of you guys who catch him weekly can fill us in.

Llama fail. Typical of him to watch a YouTube highlight video and wack off over the guy. Burfict will be lucky to get drafted and he is calling him 2 nd best player in the draft. Obviously he never saw him play. Who chased off the spineless drama llama?

McDman
04-16-2012, 06:25 AM
I hadn't even noticed drama was gone. Him, Mac, MHM, and Bronbow all gone?

Very peaceful.

Did he get banned?

Kaylore
04-16-2012, 08:31 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/15/burfict-gets-the-cold-shoulder/

"No one's Burfict" :giggle:

I was going to post this. Literally no one even bothered sending a scout. He might be an UFA, at this point.

This quote is the best.
Teams inclined to take a late-round flier on Burfict have plenty of reasons to look elsewhere. His high-school coach, Matt Logan, said of Burfict, “I am a little bit worried. I just don’t know if he’s listening to anybody right now.” Arizona State defensive coordinator Craig Bray has said any praise for Burfict’s skills is “all hype.”

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 06:17 PM
Vontaze Burfict makes the Bengals



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/31/vontaze-burfict-makes-the-bengals/




:sunshine:

maven
08-31-2012, 07:37 PM
Vontaze Burfict makes the Bengals



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/31/vontaze-burfict-makes-the-bengals/




:sunshine:

Would have taken him with one of our last picks. Surprised nobody did.

consistent1
08-31-2012, 07:51 PM
Sadly, I think he will end up a pretty good player.

Kaylore
08-31-2012, 07:56 PM
Sadly, I think he will end up a pretty good player.

Good for him. If going undrafted is what it took for him to salvage a near-ruined future in football, then more power to him. There are a lot of guys who wish they were as bad off as him right now.

cmhargrove
10-03-2012, 10:42 AM
Burfict up for "Rookie of the Week"

Vontaze Burfict, Cincinnati Bengals. Burfict led the team with eight tackles, two tackles for a loss, one sack, and one pass break up in the Bengals' 27-10 win over the Jacksonville Jaguars.

~Crash~
10-03-2012, 11:26 AM
lol plenty of people with egg on their face.

bronco militia
10-03-2012, 11:29 AM
lol plenty of people with egg on their face.

Burfict lost millions acting like a clown last year

SonOfLe-loLang
10-03-2012, 11:39 AM
Burfict lost millions acting like a clown last year

Def. But he was also probably a victim of "too much tape."

maven
10-03-2012, 11:44 AM
If the Broncos can waste a 1st round pick on Tebow, waste a 2nd round pick on Brock(I only throw hail marys), they surely could have taken a flyer on Vontaze with a late pick.

TonyR
10-03-2012, 12:04 PM
^ Not to mention the 3rd used on Nate Irving...

Kaylore
10-03-2012, 12:17 PM
lol plenty of people with egg on their face.

You mean all the people saying to waste a draft pick on him? I agree.

Kaylore
10-03-2012, 12:18 PM
If the Broncos can waste a 1st round pick on Tebow, waste a 2nd round pick on Brock(I only throw hail marys), they surely could have taken a flyer on Vontaze with a late pick.

Let's wait one game before we decide using a seventh round pick for right's to Vontaze was worth it.

Requiem
10-03-2012, 12:20 PM
^ Not to mention the 3rd used on Nate Irving...

One-legged ILB, almost like a Shanahan pick. !Booya!

Drek
10-03-2012, 12:20 PM
If the Broncos can waste a 1st round pick on Tebow, waste a 2nd round pick on Brock(I only throw hail marys), they surely could have taken a flyer on Vontaze with a late pick.

And what if he lost his damn mind in pre-season, pile driving Manning into the turf during non-contact 7 on 7's?

Dude's a headcase. Maybe not getting drafted was the reality check he needed or maybe we're just waiting for the next moment of idiocy to rear it's ugly head.

ColoradoDarin
10-03-2012, 12:30 PM
Let's wait one game before we decide using a seventh round pick for right's to Vontaze was worth it.

But he's already contributed more than most 7th round picks ever do. Yes one game is enough to justify a pick like that.

DENVERDUI55
10-03-2012, 12:42 PM
Let's wait one game before we decide using a seventh round pick for right's to Vontaze was worth it.

He is starting due to injury and to be honest he looks like a bad Joe Mays out their but slower.

Kaylore
10-03-2012, 12:59 PM
But he's already contributed more than most 7th round picks ever do. Yes one game is enough to justify a pick like that.

/convinced

HOF.

ColoradoDarin
10-03-2012, 01:02 PM
/convinced

HOF.

He's going to be so good that every team is going to retire his number.

Kaylore
10-03-2012, 01:23 PM
He's going to be so good that every team is going to retire his number.

In every sport.

Broncos_OTM
10-03-2012, 01:25 PM
In every sport.

In every country

fontaine
10-03-2012, 01:54 PM
Why wait, let's retire his jersey NOW!!

They've already retired his jersey in Macroball in Omion Persi 9 from the Vitrion Galaxy!!!

Rohirrim
10-03-2012, 03:29 PM
http://mattbailey.ws/BFF/trophy/images/lombardi_trophy.gif

Chris
10-03-2012, 04:16 PM
In every country

On every butt cheek in every prison.

ward63
10-03-2012, 06:36 PM
I mean Arian Foster was worth a 7th round pick too, right? What about James Harrison? Everybody passed on him...INCLUDING the Bengals, so there was plenty of concerns.

Bronco Rob
10-03-2012, 10:38 PM
Burfict up for "Rookie of the Week"

Vontaze Burfict, Cincinnati Bengals. Burfict led the team with eight tackles, two tackles for a loss, one sack, and one pass break up in the Bengals' 27-10 win over the Jacksonville Jaguars.














<---------------:thumbs:

Dedhed
10-04-2012, 10:27 AM
He is starting due to injury and to be honest he looks like a bad Joe Mays out their but slower.

When has Mays ever had 2 TFLs, a pass break up, and a sack in a single game?

Has Mays ever had a sack in Denver?

DENVERDUI55
10-04-2012, 12:24 PM
When has Mays ever had 2 TFLs, a pass break up, and a sack in a single game?

Has Mays ever had a sack in Denver?

Well put Burfict in the HOF then.

Dedhed
10-04-2012, 12:34 PM
Well put Burfict in the HOF then.

Is that your actual stance? Really well thought out and backed up.

Requiem
10-04-2012, 12:48 PM
The only good posts in this thread were mine.

Luke was a Top 10 pick. Teo is probably going in the Top 15. Burfict didn't even hit it after the top three rounds. I win!

kappys
10-04-2012, 02:31 PM
It remains to be seen what Vontaze will become but he certainly was worth a late round flier. Like our own Malik Jackson and trevathan I am a big fan of taking very productive college players that may have some issues in the measureables aspects

LongDongJohnson
10-04-2012, 04:01 PM
When has Mays ever had 2 TFLs, a pass break up, and a sack in a single game?

Has Mays ever had a sack in Denver?

Joe Mays had a sack in week 1.

DENVERDUI55
10-04-2012, 04:32 PM
Is that your actual stance? Really well thought out and backed up.

I already made my stance. He is playing due to injury and I seen him play a couple times already. Like I said he looks slow out there but he can thump pretty well. He is a 2 down LB that comes off in nickle situations because he isn't good in space and his speed is suspect. Kudo's to him for making a team after that awful senior year he had. There is more to playing football than just spitting out stats.

Requiem
10-04-2012, 04:41 PM
I already made my stance. He is playing due to injury and I seen him play a couple times already. Like I said he looks slow out there but he can thump pretty well. He is a 2 down LB that comes off in nickle situations because he isn't good in space and his speed is suspect. Kudo's to him for making a team after that awful senior year he had. There is more to playing football than just spitting out stats.

Good post DENVERDUI55. I am in agreement with DENVERDUI55. Burfict is a 2 downtown that comes off in quarter situations because he isn't good in space jam and his speed is usual suspect.

Dedhed
10-05-2012, 11:14 AM
Joe Mays had a sack in week 1.

Joe mays, officially, has 1/2 a sack in his career.

Dedhed
10-05-2012, 11:16 AM
I already made my stance. He is playing due to injury and I seen him play a couple times already. Like I said he looks slow out there but he can thump pretty well. He is a 2 down LB that comes off in nickle situations because he isn't good in space and his speed is suspect. Kudo's to him for making a team after that awful senior year he had. There is more to playing football than just spitting out stats.

Regardless of why he's playing, he's made more tackles, has more sacks, and more passes defended in a single game than Mays has all season.

Dedhed
10-05-2012, 11:17 AM
Good post DENVERDUI55. I am in agreement with DENVERDUI55. Burfict is a 2 downtown that comes off in quarter situations because he isn't good in space jam and his speed is usual suspect.

Yeah, because our current MLB is great for 3 downs. He's especially awesome in nickel.

DENVERDUI55
10-05-2012, 01:19 PM
Regardless of why he's playing, he's made more tackles, has more sacks, and more passes defended in a single game than Mays has all season.

You missed the point. Both are 2 down LB.

Requiem
10-05-2012, 02:37 PM
Yeah, because our current MLB is great for 3 downs. He's especially awesome in nickel.

If seen Joe Mays play more than anyone on this board, especially in person. I know he is bad in nickel situations.

Play2win
10-05-2012, 02:55 PM
Burfict is just a time bomb, waiting to go off. He's gonna punch a ref right in the mouth one of these days.

ozomulsion
10-08-2012, 08:34 PM
I already made my stance. He is playing due to injury and I seen him play a couple times already. Like I said he looks slow out there but he can thump pretty well. He is a 2 down LB that comes off in nickle situations because he isn't good in space and his speed is suspect. Kudo's to him for making a team after that awful senior year he had. There is more to playing football than just spitting out stats.

And your stance has been proven WRONG!!! (que KM discussion) that's all you have to lean on.

DENVERDUI55
10-08-2012, 09:28 PM
And your stance has been proven WRONG!!! (que KM discussion) that's all you have to lean on.

Ahh my dingleberry's are showing up again. I need to wipe better. My KM stance about that he should be inactive? Yet I was spot on and it shot down your "The coaches disagree with you realist fans" statement? Oh yeah I see you followed me around this thread claiming I was wrong for saying Why waste a draft pick on this guy when you can sign him as a UFA. Keep up the good work.

v2micca
10-09-2012, 06:51 AM
I'm calling it... BROCK OSWEILER

Digging through the older parts of this thread. Strangely prophetic post there Schaaf.

ozomulsion
10-09-2012, 12:49 PM
Ahh my dingleberry's are showing up again. I need to wipe better. My KM stance about that he should be inactive? Yet I was spot on and it shot down your "The coaches disagree with you realist fans" statement? Oh yeah I see you followed me around this thread claiming I was wrong for saying Why waste a draft pick on this guy when you can sign him as a UFA. Keep up the good work.

I wanted to see how you would react if I acted just like you. It's pretty dumb isn't it? Anyway, onto this subject. You were wrong and you won't admit it, just like Rev. We'd be better with this guy on our team. He's a rookie, and getting better. Mays is a veteran and seems to be getting worse.

TheReverend
10-09-2012, 01:07 PM
I wanted to see how you would react if I acted just like you. It's pretty dumb isn't it? Anyway, onto this subject. You were wrong and you won't admit it, just like Rev. We'd be better with this guy on our team. He's a rookie, and getting better. Mays is a veteran and seems to be getting worse.

... What?

DENVERDUI55
10-09-2012, 01:34 PM
I wanted to see how you would react if I acted just like you. It's pretty dumb isn't it? Anyway, onto this subject. You were wrong and you won't admit it, just like Rev. We'd be better with this guy on our team. He's a rookie, and getting better. Mays is a veteran and seems to be getting worse.

I said we shouldn't draft him because he can be had as udfa? Are you agreeing with drama llama that we should of used 1 st rd pick on him.

TDmvp
10-21-2012, 06:37 PM
http://ano.lolcathost.org/thumbs//1266925656257.gif
Yea Socal we should have taken a shot and got Vontaze maybe if we could have got him for nothing like the Bungals did.

Pontius Pirate
10-21-2012, 06:48 PM
Vontaze Burfict: from first rounder to undrafted to Bengals starter:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1363268-vontaze-burfict-from-draft-disaster-to-cincinnati-bengals-starter

Watching him play right now against the Steelers in Q1, he's already had two great plays on Pitt's first possession

kappys
10-21-2012, 07:27 PM
Vontaze Burfict: from first rounder to undrafted to Bengals starter:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1363268-vontaze-burfict-from-draft-disaster-to-cincinnati-bengals-starter

Watching him play right now against the Steelers in Q1, he's already had two great plays on Pitt's first possession

I missed the first possession - since then he's been OK but no great plays - actually a couple of misses on these two most recent runs

DBroncos4life
10-21-2012, 07:29 PM
I missed the first possession - since then he's been OK but no great plays - actually a couple of misses on these two most recent runs

Those huge runs on the gut Pitt has been doing this drive leads me to think we have a guy that can match him on our bench.

kappys
10-21-2012, 07:34 PM
Those huge runs on the gut Pitt has been doing this drive leads me to think we have a guy that can match him on our bench.

True enough, but we haven't gotten a good look at him in coverage yet to see if he can really compete with our own Joe Mays.

Bronco Rob
10-22-2012, 01:04 AM
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa444/Paxil_Rose/burfict4.png
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa444/Paxil_Rose/burfict3.png
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa444/Paxil_Rose/Burfict2.png
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa444/Paxil_Rose/burfict1.png




:thumbs:

Pontius Pirate
10-22-2012, 11:44 AM
I missed the first possession - since then he's been OK but no great plays - actually a couple of misses on these two most recent runs

Here is sportsline's summary of his play last night:


Burfict all over the field : Bengals linebacker Vontaze Burfict was all over the field in Week 7 against the Steelers. Burfict finished with a career-best 15 tackles in the 24-17 defeat, with 13 of those being credited as solo stops. He was also credited with two tackles for loss and now has 44 tackles on the year.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1691353/vontaze-burfict

DBroncos4life
10-22-2012, 12:57 PM
Here is sportsline's summary of his play last night:


Burfict all over the field : Bengals linebacker Vontaze Burfict was all over the field in Week 7 against the Steelers. Burfict finished with a career-best 15 tackles in the 24-17 defeat, with 13 of those being credited as solo stops. He was also credited with two tackles for loss and now has 44 tackles on the year.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1691353/vontaze-burfict

Steelers ran for a season high 167. Huge runs right up the gut. Pretty impressive.

Play2win
10-22-2012, 12:58 PM
tick... tick.... tick....

menonite
10-22-2012, 01:04 PM
tick... tick.... tick....


Chris Johnson?

cmhargrove
11-01-2012, 03:25 PM
Ok, so who gets more tackles this weekend?

Wesley Woodyard or the V-tard?

Kaylore
11-01-2012, 05:20 PM
Ok, so who gets more tackles this weekend?

Wesley Woodyard or the V-tard?

:spit:

Bronco Rob
10-26-2013, 09:48 AM
More than half the season remains, but Cincinnati Bengals linebacker Vontaze Burfict already has 74 tackles. Most defensive players wish they could have that many stops in a single season, let alone after seven games.

But there Burfict is, already on pace to blow right past the 127 tackles he had in 16 games as a rookie last season. If he keeps up his current pace of roughly 10.5 tackles a game, Burfict will end the year with 159. That's a mind-blowing stat.

Whether he hits 127 again or jumps to 159, Burfict has been a true tackling machine, and he's played well.


http://espn.go.com/blog/cincinnati-bengals/post/_/id/2220/bengals-vontaze-burfict-linebacker-morning-stripes-offenses



:thumbs:

Rohirrim
10-26-2013, 10:00 AM
So, what ever happened to the drama llama? Anybody find out?

broncocalijohn
10-26-2013, 10:26 AM
Ludo is pissed we didn't take his Arizona state boy (even though he is from Cali). If remembered correctly, loose cannon with a vicious hit even if you don't know where he will line up or be on a play. Seems he has been a huge pick and so far not any major problems for Cinci.

TheReverend
10-26-2013, 10:39 AM
So, what ever happened to the drama llama? Anybody find out?

Posting here under a new name like everyone else who 'left'

theAPAOps5
10-26-2013, 10:43 AM
Posting here under a new name like everyone else who 'left'

Did he actually leave? I missed him saying he left. I thought he just disappeared and then came back as Maven.

bowtown
10-26-2013, 11:02 AM
He had a sex change and came back as Nyuk Nyuk.

Houshyamama
10-26-2013, 11:14 AM
As an ASU alum, I was calling for Burfict, Osweiler and Robinson before any of you retards. So just let the pissing contest end.

broncocalijohn
10-26-2013, 01:02 PM
As an ASU alum, I was calling for Burfict, Osweiler and Robinson before any of you retards. So just let the pissing contest end.

Well, Med is a professor there and his great great grandfather founded ASU.


He called it when they were freshman.

Houshyamama
10-26-2013, 01:08 PM
Well, Med is a professor there and his great great grandfather founded ASU.


He called it when they were freshman.

Well I impregnated their mothers and called it then.

Broncobiv
10-26-2013, 02:53 PM
Well I impregnated their mothers and called it then.

If you're going to go the family smack route, at least make it worthwhile. That was weak! :P

Houshyamama
10-26-2013, 05:26 PM
If you're going to go the family smack route, at least make it worthwhile. That was weak! :P

I tried

broncocalijohn
10-26-2013, 05:54 PM
If you're going to go the family smack route, at least make it worthwhile. That was weak! :P

Only if the Moms are Omane members.

Just think how much better those kids would be at football if they didn't have Houshyamama's dna.

Houshyamama
10-27-2013, 01:57 AM
Only if the Moms are Omane members.

Just think how much better those kids would be at football if they didn't have Houshyamama's dna.

LOL