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bronclvr
10-06-2011, 03:35 PM
I was wondering if anyone knows anything new regarding Demaryius Thomas' injury-it sure seems like a long time for a player to be out with a hurt finger-he's been out now for about, what-4+ weeks?

I don't want to call him a bust, but it sure seems like there are other NFL players that are playing with injuries that are much worse-do you think it is legit?

crush17
10-06-2011, 03:36 PM
He would still be out anyway due to the achillies.

enjolras
10-06-2011, 03:42 PM
I believe I heard a target of week 7 on the radio. I think they may have been a bit optimistic about his recovery from the achilles, and subsequent ability to get back into game shape. He should have been on the PUP.

TheReverend
10-06-2011, 03:44 PM
I believe I heard a target of week 7 on the radio. I think they may have been a bit optimistic about his recovery from the achilles, and subsequent ability to get back into game shape. He should have been on the PUP.

^ Frankly it just makes sense to treat him with kid gloves and make sure he gets the proper time to recover, especially with the bye week a few days away.

vonqkilla
10-06-2011, 03:45 PM
My people told me the finger was badly broken.

Dagmar
10-06-2011, 03:50 PM
When Lindsay Jones was asked she said he was expected to practice after the bye. This was last week.

lonestar
10-06-2011, 04:03 PM
^ Frankly it just makes sense to treat him with kid gloves and make sure he gets the proper time to recover, especially with the bye week a few days away.

yes he should have been on the PUP list. would have saved a roster spot..
As for now I'd rather him be completely healed from BOTH injuries when he hits the field..

if that means another year on IR, ok by me he has loads of upside and it is not like we do not have other WR's .

razorwire77
10-06-2011, 04:09 PM
Let the kid heal as far as I'm concerned. They should have shut him down for the year, based on the Achilles injury alone. He very well may turn out to be a bust, but he's one of the few players on offense Denver has with the physical tools to develop into an elite play maker.

Pony Boy
10-06-2011, 04:48 PM
1st round draft choice on the self for 2 years ......... thanks for starting a McDipsheiat thread.

baja
10-06-2011, 04:54 PM
Bet he is a junk food junkie.

lonestar
10-06-2011, 05:24 PM
1st round draft choice on the self for 2 years ......... thanks for starting a McDipsheiat thread.

Who Just may become the next or teh better BM..

Please tell me if mikey never drafted players that had a hard time seeing teh field..

IF you have a hard time let me know and I'll point them out for you..

At least the majority of Joshes draft choices are playing at this time and most are starters..

more than y'all could say about mikeys DAFT choices excpet for the year 2006 and frankly most of them were primadonna headcases..

TheDave
10-06-2011, 05:47 PM
Who Just may become the next or teh better BM..

Please tell me if mikey never drafted players that had a hard time seeing teh field..

IF you have a hard time let me know and I'll point them out for you..

At least the majority of Joshes draft choices are playing at this time and most are starters..

more than y'all could say about mikeys DAFT choices excpet for the year 2006 and frankly most of them were primadonna headcases..

What?

2009
1- Knowshon Moreno – Bust
1- Robert Ayers – Marginal Starter
2- Alphonso Smith - Gone
2- Darcel McBath - Gone
2- Richard Quinn - Gone
4- David Bruton - 3rd team
4- Seth Olsen - Gone
5- Kenny McKinley - RIP
6- Tom Brandstater – “Brandy”…”Brandy”
7- Blake Schlueter - Gone

2010
1-Demaryius Thomas - Injured
1-Tim Tebow – 3rd team
2-Zane Beadles – Marginal starter
3-J.D. Walton – Marginal Starter
4-Eric Decker – 2nd WR
5- Parrish Cox - Rapist
6- Eric Olsen - Gone
6- Syd'Quan Thompson – Injured
7-Jammie Kirlew, Indiana – Gone

maher_tyler
10-06-2011, 05:50 PM
I have a feeling he's gonna be a beast when he gets healthy. I'm thinking BM with more speed.

DBroncos4life
10-06-2011, 06:13 PM
What?

2009
1- Knowshon Moreno – Bust
1- Robert Ayers – Marginal Starter
2- Alphonso Smith - Gone
2- Darcel McBath - Gone
2- Richard Quinn - Gone
4- David Bruton - 3rd team
4- Seth Olsen - Gone
5- Kenny McKinley - RIP
6- Tom Brandstater – “Brandy”…”Brandy”
7- Blake Schlueter - Gone

2010
1-Demaryius Thomas - Injured
1-Tim Tebow – 3rd team
2-Zane Beadles – Marginal starter
3-J.D. Walton – Marginal Starter
4-Eric Decker – 2nd WR
5- Parrish Cox - Rapist
6- Eric Olsen - Gone
6- Syd'Quan Thompson – Injured
7-Jammie Kirlew, Indiana – Gone

By most he means 4 out of 19 are getting major playing time for us. ROFL! Only one looks like a star in the making and that is Decker. 8 picks in the first two rounds of two drafts and our best player out of all that crap came in the 4th fing round. The only job I would give McD is a scouting/draft job. He gives me a list of players he thinks are good and I stay the F away from them. It's a win/win for both of us.

UberBroncoMan
10-06-2011, 06:18 PM
What?

2009
1- Knowshon Moreno – Bust
1- Robert Ayers – Marginal Starter
2- Alphonso Smith - Gone
2- Darcel McBath - Gone
2- Richard Quinn - Gone
4- David Bruton - 3rd team
4- Seth Olsen - Gone
5- Kenny McKinley - RIP
6- Tom Brandstater – “Brandy”…”Brandy”
7- Blake Schlueter - Gone

2010
1-Demaryius Thomas - Injured
1-Tim Tebow – 3rd team
2-Zane Beadles – Marginal starter
3-J.D. Walton – Marginal Starter
4-Eric Decker – 2nd WR
5- Parrish Cox - Rapist
6- Eric Olsen - Gone
6- Syd'Quan Thompson – Injured
7-Jammie Kirlew, Indiana – Gone

Josh really was a special GM.

4 #1's and 4 #2's over a two year spawn and we get this. At least Josh hit on Eric Decker though. Still surprised he fell to the 3rd round, even with the foot injury.

LRtagger
10-06-2011, 06:37 PM
Why the **** was he not put on PUP? I was expecting him back against GB. What an idiot move to keep him on the active roster...could have uses that extra WR when we had Tebow running in there. ****in a

Popps
10-06-2011, 06:40 PM
No reason to rush him back. We're OK at WR when Brandon is healthy, and I'm thinking we can make our Superbowl push without him this year.

I hope he's not as fragile as he appears, though. Seems like a talented, likable kid.

baja
10-06-2011, 06:43 PM
Eats too many twinkies

Jesterhole
10-06-2011, 06:44 PM
I heard he and Ashley Lelie have been working out together...

Ratboy
10-06-2011, 06:56 PM
It would be awesome if this guy could stay healthy.

boltaneer
10-06-2011, 07:10 PM
What?

2009
1- Knowshon Moreno – Bust
1- Robert Ayers – Marginal Starter
2- Alphonso Smith - Gone
2- Darcel McBath - Gone
2- Richard Quinn - Gone
4- David Bruton - 3rd team
4- Seth Olsen - Gone
5- Kenny McKinley - RIP
6- Tom Brandstater – “Brandy”…”Brandy”
7- Blake Schlueter - Gone

2010
1-Demaryius Thomas - Injured
1-Tim Tebow – 3rd team
2-Zane Beadles – Marginal starter
3-J.D. Walton – Marginal Starter
4-Eric Decker – 2nd WR
5- Parrish Cox - Rapist
6- Eric Olsen - Gone
6- Syd'Quan Thompson – Injured
7-Jammie Kirlew, Indiana – Gone

Four first round picks and three seconds that look like busts. That's worse than Bobby Bethard.

You guys know McDaniels can't evaluate talent and yet there's so much Tebow love here. I don't understand it.

maher_tyler
10-06-2011, 07:17 PM
Four first round picks and three seconds that look like busts. That's worse than Bobby Bethard.

You guys know McDaniels can't evaluate talent and yet there's so much Tebow love here. I don't understand it.

It's about all the hope we have left...:notthissh

oubronco
10-06-2011, 07:18 PM
Glass figurine

TheDave
10-06-2011, 07:21 PM
Four first round picks and three seconds that look like busts. That's worse than Bobby Bethard.

You guys know McDaniels can't evaluate talent and yet there's so much Tebow love here. I don't understand it.

Not me... Trust me, I'll be as happy as the next guy if he comes in and serves me and Merill a heaping pile of crow. I just don't think it is going to happen.

razorwire77
10-06-2011, 07:26 PM
What?

2009
1- Knowshon Moreno – Bust
1- Robert Ayers – Marginal Starter
2- Alphonso Smith - Gone
2- Darcel McBath - Gone
2- Richard Quinn - Gone
4- David Bruton - 3rd team
4- Seth Olsen - Gone
5- Kenny McKinley - RIP
6- Tom Brandstater – “Brandy”…”Brandy”
7- Blake Schlueter - Gone

2010
1-Demaryius Thomas - Injured
1-Tim Tebow – 3rd team
2-Zane Beadles – Marginal starter
3-J.D. Walton – Marginal Starter
4-Eric Decker – 2nd WR
5- Parrish Cox - Rapist
6- Eric Olsen - Gone
6- Syd'Quan Thompson – Injured
7-Jammie Kirlew, Indiana – Gone

Hilarious!

Yup, when after two draft cycles you have more rapists than Pro Bowlers, that's usually a sign of some war room oppsies. I still hold out hope that DT turns out to be a beastly no. 1 and Decker continues to develop as a quality 2.

vonqkilla
10-06-2011, 08:09 PM
Dudes finger is jacked up, shattered.

Punisher
10-06-2011, 08:23 PM
We passed on Dez for him nuff said

GreatBronco16
10-06-2011, 09:18 PM
We passed on Dez for him nuff said

Yeah, but he doesn't show his butt crack at little girls at the playground.

lonestar
10-06-2011, 09:50 PM
What?

2009
1- Knowshon Moreno – Bust
1- Robert Ayers – Marginal Starter
2- Alphonso Smith - Gone
2- Darcel McBath - Gone
2- Richard Quinn - Gone
4- David Bruton - 3rd team
4- Seth Olsen - Gone
5- Kenny McKinley - RIP
6- Tom Brandstater – “Brandy”…”Brandy”
7- Blake Schlueter - Gone

2010
1-Demaryius Thomas - Injured
1-Tim Tebow – 3rd team
2-Zane Beadles – Marginal starter
3-J.D. Walton – Marginal Starter
4-Eric Decker – 2nd WR
5- Parrish Cox - Rapist
6- Eric Olsen - Gone
6- Syd'Quan Thompson – Injured
7-Jammie Kirlew, Indiana – Gone


Guess your letting your emotions get the best of you, judging from your "busts" and marginal starters"

They seem to Happen to be the future of the team, Well perhaps not Moreno..

and the injured players Josh would have known that they would be injured while playing the game..

kind of like mikey knew that BM would slip on a Hamburger wrapper. or Griese's would trip over his dog or Clady would rupture an ACL playing basketball or Eddie mac would have a career ending leg injury the night before Sep 11 or TD would suffer a knee injury while trying to make a tackle on a greise interception (also a career ender) or toviesi would never play a down because of an injury he suffered in college , nor foster being injured before the draft, there are more DFAT moves by mikey but this one takes the cake DAFTING a one handed WR with the #54 pick in the draft..

You see having a Player get injured while playing happens but having morons get injured while off duty putting themselves in harms way by doing stupid things is something else altogether.

Now I know most of y'all think that mikey walked on water and perhaps he did back in 1996-99 but after that and his HOF players retired he did very little to actually get us back to the glory years..

It is My Humble Opinion he did just the opposite, he mortgaged the franchise, over spending on UFA to compensate for screwing the pooch in every draft after 1999 .

Sure he got some deal in the late rounds but they were just not good enough to take us to the promised land..

he won us a lot of games early in each season then we held on by the finger tips in most of the late seasons to slid in with a playoff spot.

Then we got our asses kicked every time we played a playoff game..

I used to be just like 98% of you when someone would say mikey could not win without Elway.. Then I started to put two and two together and realized they were right..
Time for Y'all to figure it out.

Now was Josh the answer? That will be debated for eons.

I know for sure that had they hired an experienced GM to run the show Things would have wound up differently..

How? I'm not sure but I know that xanders would not have been in charge and I doubt that many moves that were made would not have been made..

I know that I embraced Joshes moves on the OLine bigger, faster, stronger, MEANER and smarter.. In order to do that you have to expend day one or two picks to get the cream of the crop opposed to taking players that NO ONE else wanted and have to devise a scheme of smoke and mirrors to get yards between the twenties..

Once inside the Red Zone we stunk it up for a decade or more excepting a couple of years when we had the Mikes runing tha ball.

hope you understand where I'm coming from and your jsut a bit more enlightened than before..

maven
10-06-2011, 09:59 PM
No reason to play this guy now. If he can go, give him the last 4 games of the season.

lonestar
10-06-2011, 10:02 PM
No reason to play this guy now. If he can go, give him the last 4 games of the season.

unless we get down to two WR again like we were couple of weeks ago I agree give it all time to heal..

Right now we seem to be flush with WR or flat recievers..

bronco militia
10-06-2011, 10:04 PM
Dudes finger is jacked up, shattered.

http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2011/07/31/dd-wayback31_lot_0497464676.jpg

"rub some dirt on it"

epicSocialism4tw
10-06-2011, 10:07 PM
What?

2009
1- Knowshon Moreno – Bust
1- Robert Ayers – Marginal Starter
2- Alphonso Smith - Gone
2- Darcel McBath - Gone
2- Richard Quinn - Gone
4- David Bruton - 3rd team
4- Seth Olsen - Gone
5- Kenny McKinley - RIP
6- Tom Brandstater – “Brandy”…”Brandy”
7- Blake Schlueter - Gone

2010
1-Demaryius Thomas - Injured
1-Tim Tebow – 3rd team
2-Zane Beadles – Marginal starter
3-J.D. Walton – Marginal Starter
4-Eric Decker – 2nd WR
5- Parrish Cox - Rapist
6- Eric Olsen - Gone
6- Syd'Quan Thompson – Injured
7-Jammie Kirlew, Indiana – Gone

Walton and Beadles both are now solid starters. It will take awhile for people to realize this because nobody pays attention to the OL.

Man-Goblin
10-06-2011, 10:16 PM
What?

2009
1- Knowshon Moreno – Bust
1- Robert Ayers – Marginal Starter
2- Alphonso Smith - Gone
2- Darcel McBath - Gone
2- Richard Quinn - Gone
4- David Bruton - 3rd team
4- Seth Olsen - Gone
5- Kenny McKinley - RIP
6- Tom Brandstater – “Brandy”…”Brandy”
7- Blake Schlueter - Gone

2010
1-Demaryius Thomas - Injured
1-Tim Tebow – 3rd team
2-Zane Beadles – Marginal starter
3-J.D. Walton – Marginal Starter
4-Eric Decker – 2nd WR
5- Parrish Cox - Rapist
6- Eric Olsen - Gone
6- Syd'Quan Thompson – Injured
7-Jammie Kirlew, Indiana – Gone

Wow. You could throw darts at the draft dart board and do better than that. Imagine how much money went into scouting (or didn't?) those two years, and they only had one good draft pick with good value so far (Decker).

razorwire77
10-06-2011, 10:30 PM
Walton and Beadles both are now solid starters. It will take awhile for people to realize this because nobody pays attention to the OL.

I pay attention to the o-line and Walton gets overpowered on a pretty regular basis. A solid starter could start on multiple teams across the league. I doubt either Walton or Beadles fit that definition.

montrose
10-06-2011, 10:39 PM
It appears as though the Broncos unofficially decided to wait to get their offensive guys healthy after the bye - with the hopes D.Thomas, J.Thomas and Royal are ready to go and give Orton more weapons.

Dagmar
10-06-2011, 10:40 PM
We passed on Dez for him nuff said

You think the guy who keeps forgetting to pay for things and who is being called out by his head coach for lack of conditioning would have been more disciplined in our cluster **** of an organization.

I was at the Seattle game, Thomas looked amazing. He has had bad injury luck, if he gets over it we'll have a special player, along with Decker and Lloyd.

bronco militia
10-06-2011, 10:44 PM
It appears as though the Broncos unofficially decided to wait to get their offensive guys healthy after the bye - with the hopes D.Thomas, J.Thomas and Royal are ready to go and give Orton more weapons.

http://mob1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb390/yacope/NotSureIfSerious.jpg

ROFL!

strafen
10-06-2011, 10:55 PM
What?

2009
1- Knowshon Moreno – Bust
1- Robert Ayers – Marginal Starter
2- Alphonso Smith - Gone
2- Darcel McBath - Gone
2- Richard Quinn - Gone
4- David Bruton - 3rd team
4- Seth Olsen - Gone
5- Kenny McKinley - RIP
6- Tom Brandstater – “Brandy”…”Brandy”
7- Blake Schlueter - Gone

2010
1-Demaryius Thomas - Injured
1-Tim Tebow – 3rd team
2-Zane Beadles – Marginal starter
3-J.D. Walton – Marginal Starter
4-Eric Decker – 2nd WR
5- Parrish Cox - Rapist
6- Eric Olsen - Gone
6- Syd'Quan Thompson – Injured
7-Jammie Kirlew, Indiana – Gone

Good call! ^5

Dagmar
10-06-2011, 10:56 PM
It appears as though the Broncos unofficially decided to wait to get their offensive guys healthy after the bye - with the hopes D.Thomas, J.Thomas and Royal are ready to go and give Tebow more weapons.

:strong:

epicSocialism4tw
10-06-2011, 11:01 PM
I pay attention to the o-line and Walton gets overpowered on a pretty regular basis. A solid starter could start on multiple teams across the league. I doubt either Walton or Beadles fit that definition.

That's absolutely untrue. Walton has been doing a pretty good job at getting leverage and turning his guy away from the play. Every OL gets pushed back sometimes. The key is whether or not they remain engaged and finish out the play.

You also have to realize that you're talking about a center. He's the guy who snaps the ball, so his job is not to bulldoze. His job is to engage his man and to follow the assignment, whether that's turning his man out of the play or chipping the NT and getting through to hit a linebacker.

Walton has improved dramatically just over the course of 4 games. He's one of the surprises of the early season. He's a keeper.

This is a second-year player coming off of a year where his coach got fired before the season's end and who is now playing for a new coach. He's improving just like you would hope.

DivineBronco
10-06-2011, 11:09 PM
That's absolutely untrue. Walton has been doing a pretty good job at getting leverage and turning his guy away from the play. Every OL gets pushed back sometimes. The key is whether or not they remain engaged and finish out the play.

You also have to realize that you're talking about a center. He's the guy who snaps the ball, so his job is not to bulldoze. His job is to engage his man and to follow the assignment, whether that's turning his man out of the play or chipping the NT and getting through to hit a linebacker.

Walton has improved dramatically just over the course of 4 games. He's one of the surprises of the early season. He's a keeper.

This is a second-year player coming off of a year where his coach got fired before the season's end and who is now playing for a new coach. He's improving just like you would hope.

and there is no chance you feel this way because he is from Texas right, you have fully checked the game tape and all that?

BroncoMan4ever
10-07-2011, 12:12 AM
honestly i think he should have been put on the PUP list at the very most and probably should have been on IR for this season. i like the guy, love his potential but he makes Moreno look like an iron man. he would greatly benefit from a full year off to heal from the injuries and slowly work his way into NFL shape.

BowlenBall
10-07-2011, 12:51 AM
Josh really was a special GM.

4 #1's and 4 #2's over a two year spawn and we get this. At least Josh hit on Eric Decker though. Still surprised he fell to the 3rd round, even with the foot injury.

Unfortunately, the GM who presided over those two drafts is still with the team....

ol#7
10-07-2011, 01:15 AM
The worst part of that two year run, is that none of those picks are moves that the majority (of the idiot fanbase) agreed with. Really sucks when the fans know more than the FO.

As to the Tebow thing, its less about love and more that he is the last Josh pic that hasnt had a chance to bust. He is the only question mark left from McDisaster. Until he busts, there is still hope we didnt throw two years away for nothing.

fontaine
10-07-2011, 03:27 AM
Walton and Beadles both are now solid starters. It will take awhile for people to realize this because nobody pays attention to the OL.

Maybe in bizzaro world. Walton is playing better and isn't a liability but not a solid starter.

Beadles is one of the worst in the AFC.

Ironlung
10-07-2011, 09:21 AM
Tebow is third string?

TheReverend
10-07-2011, 09:41 AM
Four first round picks and three seconds that look like busts. That's worse than Bobby Bethard.

You guys know McDaniels can't evaluate talent and yet there's so much Tebow love here. I don't understand it.

It's hope.

We KNOW Orton can't play.
We HOPE Tim can (and his play last season reinforced that hope, imo).

eddie mac
10-07-2011, 09:53 AM
Whatever happened to the 3-4 years to truly evaluate a rookie, isn't that why in the most part they get 3-4 year contracts???

Drek
10-07-2011, 09:55 AM
Whatever happened to the 3-4 years to truly evaluate a rookie, isn't that why in the most part they get 3-4 year contracts???

Not on the OM dude. Moreno has been a bust since he didn't break out 100 yard gainers his first four games. Ayers didn't start from day one so he's a bust. Beadles and Walton started but didn't impress, so again, busts. Thomas impressed whenever healthy but he's hurt so again, bust.

On the OM you are either immediately an elite player at your position (like Miller) or you're a bust. No leeway, no consideration for how the rest of your class did, where you were taken, or other variables that have impacted your career.

Punisher
10-07-2011, 10:28 AM
Yeah, but he doesn't show his butt crack at little girls at the playground.

He could show hes dick to little girl as long as he runs fast in the 40 and has the ability to jump over grown man the ass crack or dick showing will be fine with me

lonestar
10-07-2011, 11:11 AM
Walton and Beadles both are now solid starters. It will take awhile for people to realize this because nobody pays attention to the OL.

an amazing concept unless your all pro your not a solid starter..:giggle::giggle::giggle:

Drek
10-07-2011, 11:20 AM
an amazing concept unless your all pro your not a solid starter..:giggle::giggle::giggle:

Pretty much.

2nd and 3rd rounders taken more than a year to become standouts? BUST.

Requiem
10-07-2011, 11:27 AM
Zane and JD have a long ways to go in development and there is no reason to give up on them yet, but their play clearly indicates they are still below-average starters in the NFL. For them to come in and play as rookies was quite the demand, but they will be battle tested and better for it in the future.

lonestar
10-07-2011, 11:41 AM
I pay attention to the o-line and Walton gets overpowered on a pretty regular basis. A solid starter could start on multiple teams across the league. I doubt either Walton or Beadles fit that definition.


ANd so far who they he played against?

Seymour and Kelly from OAK
SMith and Marks for TEN
Atkins, Peko and fanene from the bungals
Raji from the pack..

Anyone of which I'd trade any of our DT except for Bunkley..

Anytime you have young OL guys playing next to each other **** happens, and with time they will get better and better..

You can put one rookie into a great OL and good things happen like Pouncy did in PIT but then their OL has been one of the best for decades.. in the power blocking mode..

Putting two rookies next to each other and changing schemes each year is going to have its ramifications..

It take s time to trust each other on the OL KNOWING what the guy next to you is going to do in each different senario.. after that learn that then there will not be a split second hesitation that you can get away with in college. Ther will react as a unit.. and that takes time..

PIT OL was not built in two years..

Marcus Gilbert #77 T picked #63

Pittsburgh Steelers

Height: 6-6 Weight: 330 Age: 23

Ramon Foster #73 OG PRO (26-12/3-3): Signed by the Steelers as an undrafted free agent on April 27, 2009…has started 11 games the past two seasons for various injured linemen.

Pittsburgh Steelers | Official Team Site

Height: 6-6 Weight: 325 Age: 25

Maurkice Pouncey #53 C Picked #18 first round

Pittsburgh Steelers | Official Team Site

Height: 6-4 Weight: 304 Age: 22
Chris Kemoeatu #68 G
picked 204

Pittsburgh Steelers | Official Team Site

Height: 6-3 Weight: 344 Age: 28

Chris Scott #71 T

Pittsburgh Steelers | Official Team Site

Height: 6-4 Weight: 319 Age: 24


Note tath all of them have a few years ain grade and Each of them out weigh who we have for the most part..

Baba Booey
10-07-2011, 11:48 AM
Can't wait for Bay Bay to get on the field. He's a beast when healthy, and hopefully he can squash the injury bug after this whole incident is behind him.

maher_tyler
10-07-2011, 11:52 AM
Zane and JD have a long ways to go in development and there is no reason to give up on them yet, but their play clearly indicates they are still below-average starters in the NFL. For them to come in and play as rookies was quite the demand, but they will be battle tested and better for it in the future.

I agree. To me, it seems like we've been improving each week on the oline. If we had a little more explosiveness at RB, we'd prolly avg. a yard or two more per carry. McGahee is more of a power back at this point in his career and Moreno is a receiving 3rd down back. Everyone thought our oline was going to be eaten alive by GB and Mathews. Wasn't the case. Orton most of the time had time to throw the ball. I've seen improvements in the trenches which is good. Orton and our pass D is killing this team!

TheReverend
10-07-2011, 11:53 AM
ANd so far who they he played against?

Seymour and Kelly from OAK
SMith and Marks for TEN
Atkins, Peko and fanene from the bungals
Raji from the pack..

Anyone of which I'd trade any of our DT except for Bunkley..

Anytime you have young OL guys playing next to each other **** happens, and with time they will get better and better..

You can put one rookie into a great OL and good things happen like Pouncy did in PIT but then their OL has been one of the best for decades.. in the power blocking mode..

Putting two rookies next to each other and changing schemes each year is going to have its ramifications..

It take s time to trust each other on the OL KNOWING what the guy next to you is going to do in each different senario.. after that learn that then there will not be a split second hesitation that you can get away with in college. Ther will react as a unit.. and that takes time..

PIT OL was not built in two years..

Note tath all of them have a few years ain grade and Each of them out weigh who we have for the most part..

Lauding the Pittsburgh OL

I have now seen it all.

Punisher
10-07-2011, 12:02 PM
ANd so far who they he played against?

Seymour and Kelly from OAK
SMith and Marks for TEN
Atkins, Peko and fanene from the bungals
Raji from the pack..

Anyone of which I'd trade any of our DT except for Bunkley..

Anytime you have young OL guys playing next to each other **** happens, and with time they will get better and better..

You can put one rookie into a great OL and good things happen like Pouncy did in PIT but then their OL has been one of the best for decades.. in the power blocking mode..

Putting two rookies next to each other and changing schemes each year is going to have its ramifications..

It take s time to trust each other on the OL KNOWING what the guy next to you is going to do in each different senario.. after that learn that then there will not be a split second hesitation that you can get away with in college. Ther will react as a unit.. and that takes time..

PIT OL was not built in two years..

Marcus Gilbert #77 T picked #63

Pittsburgh Steelers

Height: 6-6 Weight: 330 Age: 23

Ramon Foster #73 OG PRO (26-12/3-3): Signed by the Steelers as an undrafted free agent on April 27, 2009…has started 11 games the past two seasons for various injured linemen.

Pittsburgh Steelers | Official Team Site

Height: 6-6 Weight: 325 Age: 25

Maurkice Pouncey #53 C Picked #18 first round

Pittsburgh Steelers | Official Team Site

Height: 6-4 Weight: 304 Age: 22
Chris Kemoeatu #68 G
picked 204

Pittsburgh Steelers | Official Team Site

Height: 6-3 Weight: 344 Age: 28

Chris Scott #71 T

Pittsburgh Steelers | Official Team Site

Height: 6-4 Weight: 319 Age: 24


Note tath all of them have a few years ain grade and Each of them out weigh who we have for the most part..

I see you was pretty bored since you copied and paste the stats lol

razorwire77
10-07-2011, 12:13 PM
I'm not saying to give up on Walton and Beadles, or "OMG teh suck" I'm saying to call them "solid starters" aka guys that would start for half of the other teams in the league is laughable right now. Walton is a below average NFL center right now, and Beadles is a below average NFL guard right now. Could they both develop into something better? Of course, but I'd like to see players drafted at both positions to challenge them next year. If anything, to develop depth in the trenches (something teams that don't suck do.)

bendog
10-07-2011, 12:21 PM
Glass figurine

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RaiderH8r
10-07-2011, 12:22 PM
My people told me the finger was badly broken.

Ronnie Lott called and said DT is a blubbering vagina.

RaiderH8r
10-07-2011, 12:23 PM
I have a feeling he's gonna be a beast when he gets healthy. I'm thinking BM with more speed.

It'll come in handy as he collects cash on the sideline. He won't drop that paycheck boys.

RaiderH8r
10-07-2011, 12:33 PM
Not on the OM dude. Moreno has been a bust since he didn't break out 100 yard gainers his first four games. Ayers didn't start from day one so he's a bust. Beadles and Walton started but didn't impress, so again, busts. Thomas impressed whenever healthy but he's hurt so again, bust.

On the OM you are either immediately an elite player at your position (like Miller) or you're a bust. No leeway, no consideration for how the rest of your class did, where you were taken, or other variables that have impacted your career.

Moreno's a bust because he runs like a blithering twat. He goes down at the first hint of contact and is constantly coming up gimpy. Christ, McGahee gets it. Quit dancin, hit the hole and get positive net yardage. Hit it hard and turn 2 into 3 and 3 into 4. Every once in awhile you'll hit it hard and have an opening for a bigger gain but Moreno is a damn dancing queen and can't keep his feet.

DT was a gimp when we drafted him and he wasn't even the best talent on the board at the position. Now we're into year 2 of his injury slate and I think Tebow's put in more plays at WR than he has. When he has been out there he's been filler but in his defense he's only been out there for about 10 collective minutes in his career. He's chandelier man. He's a tremendous theoretical asset. In reality he's dead weight. He's got the injury bug. Bummer, off to the T-Mobile kiosk with ya.

Beadles and Walton were supposed to be powerful linemen who could move people in the big on big blocking scheme...which is why we went away from (grave mistake) the zone blocking scheme with smaller, quicker linemen. Instead all I see out of these two is a couple of pigs on skates. If those two gave up ground any faster they'd be in the French Army. Twats.

lonestar
10-07-2011, 09:16 PM
Lauding the Pittsburgh OL

I have now seen it all.

Why not give credit where credit is due..

Just Like giving credit to NE for having agreat team for going on a decade, and PIT well they have never really been really bad for a couple of decades..and the Cowgirls whom I hate had a superb OL for a decade along with KC.

I see a good unit some where I apprieciate it.. I do not hate it because they were smarter than we were for going after talent..

No penis envy from me..

I have been a Bronco fan since before the first game went to many of their practices before they palyed a game watched from outside the fence..

One of my HS coaches was a Bronco OT.

But when I see talent somewhere I admire it..Actually wish we could be that good..

Some day we will get back to basics and do it the right way by the numbers and grow almost exculisvely via the draft.. Like the Dynasty teams did and do..

Perhpas we are started down that path with John E at the helm and I'll be patient until he proves in adaquite to get that job done.

Just like I was with mikey until every year there was another position/coordinator coach to fire and pass the buck. Each year saying we are a couple of players away and promising to fix the red zone issues we have had since TD, Zimm and John retired..

lonestar
10-07-2011, 09:17 PM
I see you was pretty bored since you copied and paste the stats lol

Better than trying to type them out, now that you could really :giggle::giggle::giggle:

lonestar
10-07-2011, 09:22 PM
Moreno's a bust because he runs like a blithering twat. He goes down at the first hint of contact and is constantly coming up gimpy. Christ, McGahee gets it. Quit dancin, hit the hole and get positive net yardage. Hit it hard and turn 2 into 3 and 3 into 4. Every once in awhile you'll hit it hard and have an opening for a bigger gain but Moreno is a damn dancing queen and can't keep his feet.

DT was a gimp when we drafted him and he wasn't even the best talent on the board at the position. Now we're into year 2 of his injury slate and I think Tebow's put in more plays at WR than he has. When he has been out there he's been filler but in his defense he's only been out there for about 10 collective minutes in his career. He's chandelier man. He's a tremendous theoretical asset. In reality he's dead weight. He's got the injury bug. Bummer, off to the T-Mobile kiosk with ya.

Beadles and Walton were supposed to be powerful linemen who could move people in the big on big blocking scheme...which is why we went away from (grave mistake) the zone blocking scheme with smaller, quicker linemen. Instead all I see out of these two is a couple of pigs on skates. If those two gave up ground any faster they'd be in the French Army. Twats.

WOw and real live vagina lover that does not have the class to use the correct terminology.

Sounds like your seeing them but not getting any to me..

"It is better to be thought a fool, than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt" -Dale Carniege- How to win Friends and infulence People

Northman
10-08-2011, 03:42 PM
Steelers Oline has been ranked 28th the last 3 years. They are far from great.

Ha!

RaiderH8r
10-08-2011, 08:32 PM
WOw and real live vagina lover that does not have the class to use the correct terminology.

Sounds like your seeing them but not getting any to me..

"It is better to be thought a fool, than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt" -Dale Carniege- How to win Friends and infulence People

Exactly why you should STFU.

Requiem
10-08-2011, 08:57 PM
Exactly why you should STFU.

Be nice to the retards.

BroncoBuff
10-08-2011, 09:15 PM
2009
1- Knowshon Moreno – Bust I won't go there yet ... 3rd down backs are valuable
1- Robert Ayers – Marginal Starter Patience ... Mayock said 3 years
2- Alphonso Smith - Gone
2- Darcel McBath - Gone
2- Richard Quinn - Gone All those stupid endless arguments in here ... :oyvey:
4- David Bruton - 3rd team He's solid though
4- Seth Olsen - Gone Like Eric the year after, barely a blip ...
5- Kenny McKinley - RIP
6- Tom Brandstater – “Brandy”…”Brandy”
7- Blake Schlueter - Gone - Gone before the first preseason game

2010
1-Demaryius Thomas - Injured
1-Tim Tebow – 3rd team
2-Zane Beadles – Marginal starter Starter, though ... he beat out Hochstein
3-J.D. Walton – Marginal Starter Starter, though ... he beat out Manny Ramirez
4-Eric Decker – 2nd WR - "2nd WR?" C'mon, Dave ... the guy's a HUGE score. The one guy Josh left us
5- Parrish Cox - Rapist
6- Eric Olsen - Gone Like Seth before him, barely a blip .....
6- Syd'Quan Thompson – Injured
7-Jammie Kirlew, Indiana – Gone

When you draft two WR with bad wheels, 50-50 is about what you can hope for I think.

lonestar
10-08-2011, 11:05 PM
Steelers Oline has been ranked 28th the last 3 years. They are far from great.

Ha!

I'd take them over our skells any day..

And how are you ranking them.. cherry picking here also..

lonestar
10-08-2011, 11:08 PM
Exactly why you should STFU.

Wow just can't take a hint huh?

I was trying to be nice..

What most call a subtle hint..