Wall Street Protest Planner - We Are Getting Ready to "Terrify" Washington

[epicSocialism4tw]

"Name the enemy", "Bring the fight to them"

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[El Guapo]

Isn't one of the main "organizers" of these protests Van Jones? I thought he was all buddy-buddy with Obie.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Isn't one of the main "organizers" of these protests Van Jones? I thought he was all buddy-buddy with Obie.

Yeah, he's one of the organizers, and was the "Green Jobs" Czar before he was outed as a communist revolutionary and fired.


It appears as though Obama isn't too far removed from this thing either:

Occupy Wall Street "Stands in Solidarity" with Obama Front Group MoveOn.org:
http://www.infowars.com/occupy-wall-street-stands-in-solidarity-with-obama-front-group/

[peacepipe]

Yeah, he's one of the organizers, and was the "Green Jobs" Czar before he was outed as a communist revolutionary and fired.


It appears as though Obama isn't too far removed from this thing either:

Occupy Wall Street "Stands in Solidarity" with Obama Front Group MoveOn.org:
http://www.infowars.com/occupy-wall-street-stands-in-solidarity-with-obama-front-group/

LOL,you are so full of S-H-I-T!

[cutthemdown]

Also the way Obama handled Egypt and Libya, so quickly just abandoning two leaders who for the most part were playing ball with the usa, has alienated us from the other monarchies, hurting our influence in the middle east. They say why cooperate you will turn your backs at the first protest against our govt. Very dangerous policy Obama has went down. Basically pissing of Israel, abandoning the monarchs who support us, not coming through for the Palestinians. He got nothing and lost everything because he wasn't ready for the big chair.

We really need to get this guy out of there.

[cutthemdown]

This has team Obama written all over it, this is the October surprise. Since economy so crappy, and he couldn't fix, made it worst, he will try to make it all the banks fault. This guy is a real piece of work.

[epicSocialism4tw]

you are so full of S-H-I-T!

What specifically isn't true?

Be specific here. No namecalling.

[ant1999e]

Like I.said.in the other thread. This is all a distraction. Obama is the guy.behind the curtain.

[Meck77]

I can't see how nationwide protests being organized could help Obama. He's went on record saying he was going to get tough on banks. Instead banks are getting tough on main street.

[baja]

You have been hijacked by George Soros' group and moveon.org

"End capitalism" indeed!

Capitalism ended about 90 years ago.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Like I.said.in the other thread. This is all a distraction. Obama is the guy.behind the curtain.

I fully expect to see Obama try to use this to co-opt the Tea Party.

"See, we're all mad at the rich. We need fundamental change in our government so that we can make sure that the rich dont take advantage of us. They're going to call it socialism, but don't believe 'em."

Nobody ever questions this clown and his "fundamental change". What on earth is he fundamentally changing? A fundamental change would be a complete change in the system of government. He obviously wants central planning, which is a feature of dadgum communism.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I can't see how nationwide protests being organized could help Obama. He's went on record saying he was going to get tough on banks. Instead banks are getting tough on main street.

It falls in line with his policy, and it presents the illusion of a motivated base.

What's hilarious is that these clowns don't even know what they're protesting about.

These groups will stay there for awhile. What else are they going to do? They're all losers. This is part of the strategy. They will amp up the ruckus over time, and eventually the media will begin to back them and glamorize their protest. They'll start to present it as the "real Tea Party" to try to draw in regular people who identify with similar ideas (who opposed bank bailouts, too big to fail, etc). But what they won't tell you is that these groups are advocating pure socialism, communism, and even anarchy as "solutions". Obama will be the figurehead who tries to encapsulate the message and promote it from the bully pulpit.

That's one possible outcome.

[ant1999e]

Useful idiots.

[cutthemdown]

I can't see how nationwide protests being organized could help Obama. He's went on record saying he was going to get tough on banks. Instead banks are getting tough on main street.

Makes sense to me. Even the protestors doing their best to not include Obama. The movement is out to make it all the banksters fault that johnny doesn't have a job. This is the October surprise.

[El Guapo]

They're protesting big banks and corporations, right? I bet 99.9% of them have debit cards and iPods in their pockets while they "protest."

[alkemical]

They're protesting big banks and corporations, right? I bet 99.9% of them have debit cards and iPods in their pockets while they "protest."

Probably.

Of course, if banks all follow BOA's suit of charging $5 to use your MAC card - I might join 'em.

[Rohirrim]

The Right Wing's idea of democracy: Keep your mouth shut, bend over and take whatever they give you.

Washington needs to be terrified. They are selling out the people of this country to the highest bidder. It's time the people said, "Enough!"

[alkemical]

http://www.blacklistednews.com/Tampa_could_add_surveillance_drones_for_Republican _National_Convention/16010/0/38/38/Y/M.html

Tampa could add surveillance drones for Republican National Convention

[alkemical]

http://disinfobahn.wordpress.com/2011/10/05/knowing-test-how-cointelpro-really-works-and-destroys-social-movements-open-letter-from-former-tea-partier-to-occupy-wall-street-protesters/

Knowing Test: How COINTELPRO really works and destroys social movements: Open letter from former Tea Partier to Occupy Wall Street protesters

[peacepipe]

Also the way Obama handled Egypt and Libya, so quickly just abandoning two leaders who for the most part were playing ball with the usa, has alienated us from the other monarchies, hurting our influence in the middle east. They say why cooperate you will turn your backs at the first protest against our govt. Very dangerous policy Obama has went down. Basically pissing of Israel, abandoning the monarchs who support us, not coming through for the Palestinians. He got nothing and lost everything because he wasn't ready for the big chair.

We really need to get this guy out of there.

Obama had nothing to do with egypt,last I checked the people rose up against there leadership. none of our bussiness. Libya? really? Is your head that far up your ass?

[TonyR]

I fully expect to see Obama try to use this to co-opt the Tea Party.

Hey how's your tea party doing in getting a candidate nomiated to represent the GOP in the presidential election? Any potential? Or are you going to try and somehow re-brand Mitt Romney as a tea partier?!? ROFL!

[alkemical]

The Tea Party has already been co-opted and it was part of the plan early.

The real grass roots effort has had it's legs cut out from under it, while mega-media places like Clear-Channel organize protests hijacking a piece of American history for cheap Wal*Mart values. You are buying patriotism on the cheap, and the only thing you have to show for it is a cheap chinese flag on your car.

[peacepipe]

You rightards can't handle seeing real grass roots protesting. which is why all you can do is make **** up trying to say obama is behind all this.

[Kid A]

They're protesting big banks and corporations, right? I bet 99.9% of them have debit cards and iPods in their pockets while they "protest."

As though you only have the right to raise objections if you cut yourself off from modern society? I think this columnist on CNN put it pretty well yesterday:

Yes, as so many journalists seem obligated to point out, kids are criticizing corporate America while tweeting through their iPhones. The simplistic critique is that if someone is upset about corporate excess, he is supposed to abandon all connection with any corporate product. Of course, the more nuanced approach to such tradeoffs would be to seek balance rather than ultimatums. Yes, there are things big corporations might do very well, like making iPhones. There are other things big corporations may not do so well, like structure mortgage derivatives. Might we be able to use corporations for what works, and get them out of doing what doesn't?

[epicSocialism4tw]

As though you only have the right to raise objections if you cut yourself off from modern society? I think this columnist on CNN put it pretty well yesterday:

That misses the point.

They are using expensive items that the real impoverished of the world could never afford to complain about wealth inequity.

Its a sharp irony.

[TonyR]

I am not by disposition a joiner, but I'm nevertheless inclined to smile upon attempts to stick it to the man, even if the attempt is quixotic or confused and the man in the end remains unstuck. The Burkean horror of social upheaval is fine in its place, but there is no apparent danger of upheaval. And who among us doubts that the man deserves a good sticking to? So why not try?

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-0

[alkemical]

http://www.disinfo.com/2011/10/jp-morgan-chase-donates-4-6-million-to-nypd-on-eve-of-protests/

JP Morgan Chase Donates $4.6 Million To NYPD On Eve Of Protests

[TailgateNut]

They're protesting big banks and corporations, right? I bet 99.9% of them have debit cards and iPods in their pockets while they "protest."

...and WTF does this have to do with banks having their cake and eating it too? Morons. We bailed them out, They took the money and made money and laughed at us. Should have let them circle the drain just one more time before pulling the handle.

[bronclvr]

I must live in a Cave, as I don't see what this is going to accomplish-if you want to hurt Bankers you have to hit 'em where it hurts-in the profits. Why aren't they organizing people to pull their money out of Banks? Hilarious!

Meanwhile, don't buy those latte's with you ATM card-:yayaya:

[alkemical]

I must live in a Cave, as I don't see what this is going to accomplish-if you want to hurt Bankers you have to hit 'em where it hurts-in the profits. Why aren't they organizing people to pull their money out of Banks? Hilarious!

Meanwhile, don't buy those latte's with you ATM card-:yayaya:

I personally am trying to get a local currency off the ground in my area (with a group of people sharing the same interest).

We are looking @Baltimore & @Ithaca as the models.

[Rohirrim]

...and WTF does this have to do with banks having their cake and eating it too? Morons. We bailed them out, They took the money and made money and laughed at us. Should have let them circle the drain just one more time before pulling the handle.

And those same people who took that taxpayer bail-out and used it to pay each other bonuses, are now looking down on the protesters, sipping champagne and laughing.

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[bronclvr]

I personally am trying to get a local currency off the ground in my area (with a group of people sharing the same interest).

We are looking @Baltimore & @Ithaca as the models.

I appreciate your Activism-

[Kid A]

That misses the point.

They are using expensive items that the real impoverished of the world could never afford to complain about wealth inequity.

Its a sharp irony.

Unless you buy nothing from corporations, you have no right to complain about policies that let corporations get away with whatever they want?

Unless you're totally impoverished, you have no right to complain about economic policies that hurt the middle class?

You guys are getting caught up in making this about extremes when it is mostly about everyone caught in a middle. God forbid people protesting for wage/debt/insurance reform have the audacity to own anything nice.

[alkemical]

I appreciate your Activism-

See, for me it's not about "activism". In terms of protests, or what message to send. this really boils down to finding a way to break a tooth off the machine and try to carve out a sustainable way of life for myself & community.

I just think there are other, and better ways to do things. I think the protests are 'necessary' in some ways, but my concern is on whom is pulling the strings.

It appears that #Occupy & #TeaParty are basically the same coin...just different sides. Who's playing slots?

[alkemical]

Unless you buy nothing from corporations, you have no right to complain about policies that let corporations get away with whatever they want?

Unless you're totally impoverished, you have no right to complain about economic policies that hurt the middle class?

You guys are getting caught up in making this about extremes when it is mostly about everyone caught in a middle. God forbid people protesting for wage/debt/insurance reform have the audacity to own anything nice.

Wait, didn't you hear - poor people here aren't poooor. So they shouldn't bitch anyway.

:rollseyes:

[epicSocialism4tw]

I am not by disposition a joiner, but I'm nevertheless inclined to smile upon attempts to stick it to the man, even if the attempt is quixotic or confused and the man in the end remains unstuck. The Burkean horror of social upheaval is fine in its place, but there is no apparent danger of upheaval. And who among us doubts that the man deserves a good sticking to? So why not try?

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-0

Where was this article during the Tea Party protests, which dwarfed this miniscule thing?

[epicSocialism4tw]

Unless you buy nothing from corporations, you have no right to complain about policies that let corporations get away with whatever they want?

Unless you're totally impoverished, you have no right to complain about economic policies that hurt the middle class?

You guys are getting caught up in making this about extremes when it is mostly about everyone caught in a middle. God forbid people protesting for wage/debt/insurance reform have the audacity to own anything nice.

They are presenting themselves as the impoverished at the hands of evil bankers. They are not presenting themselves as middle class. That is the Tea Party, who behave civily and who have clear intelligable messages.

This is a fake protest.

By the way, where were you when the Tea Party began? Why all the defensiveness and adoration now?

[epicSocialism4tw]

And those same people who took that taxpayer bail-out and used it to pay each other bonuses, are now looking down on the protesters, sipping champagne and laughing.

Quit with the hystrionics, drama queen.

You don't know who any of those people are.

[Rohirrim]

Quit with the hystrionics, drama queen.

You don't know who any of those people are.

You never run out of excuses.

[epicSocialism4tw]

You never run out of excuses.

Name one of those people. Tell me how much bail-out money that each received.

[Kid A]

They are presenting themselves as the impoverished at the hands of evil bankers.

Well, actually, no they aren't. Their slogan the last week has been "we are the 99%." As in "we represent the vast majority of Americans economically: lower and middle classes."

You can disagree with that claim, but that is literally what they are saying over and over. They've honed in on this argument that 1% of the country has too much economic and political power. Protesting that fact ≠ claiming they can't afford to eat because of BoA execs. You're the one making that extreme claim for them.

That is the Tea Party, who behave civily and who have clear intelligable messages.

By the way, where were you when the Tea Party began? Why all the defensiveness and adoration now?

Because I think the Wall Street protest group has some legitimate points while I don't find the Tea Party's grievances particularly compelling. You know, the same reason any person sympathizes with one political view and not with another? Pretty simple. I've certainly tried to never be overly dismissive about the Tea Party or whitewash it as racist or whatever some people have, but I also undeniably don't agree with the majority of issues.

And I certainly never found the Tea Party to be clearly intelligible. All movements are bound to hold a mix of people emphasizing different/conflicting things, and the TP is no different. I've seen Taco start threads here defining the TP in a wildly different way than talking heads on Fox News do. Fair enough, just don't expect me to accept your version of what the Tea Party is as the "true" one, just because you say it makes perfect sense to you.

[Rohirrim]

The tea party is easy to understand. They want to get rid of government, but keep social security and Medicare. Then, the free market capitalists will hover over us like magical zeppelins, ****ting little flowers of prosperity on all our heads.

[cutthemdown]

I must live in a Cave, as I don't see what this is going to accomplish-if you want to hurt Bankers you have to hit 'em where it hurts-in the profits. Why aren't they organizing people to pull their money out of Banks? Hilarious!

Meanwhile, don't buy those latte's with you ATM card-:yayaya:

because the people protesting dont have any money, that is what they are protesting about. They want the 1% to give a bunch of money to the 99% regardless of if you work or not.

[RhymesayersDU]

I drive by these occupy morons daily. Left the office late tonight to see that they had constructed tents in front of the capitol to sleep in tonight. I find it hilarious that they claim to be the 99%, yet how many of the 99% get to hold up dumb signs during a work day and then play camp out at night?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Quotes

<big>"I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one."

- Seen on Democracy Now! at the Occupy Wall Street rally</big>

[epicSocialism4tw]

Quotes

<big>"I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one."

- Seen on Democracy Now! at the Occupy Wall Street rally</big>

Democracy Now is a dadgum socialist organization, and its proprietor Amy Goodman is a regular keynote speaker at Socialism conferences, notably Socialism 2007 and Socialism 2009:

http://anarchismtoday.org/News/article/sid=59.html

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

^

Right on cue with "shoot the messenger."

No response to what was said about Texas - just a personal attack on the source.

[epicSocialism4tw]

^

Right on cue with "shoot the messenger."

No response to what was said about Texas - just a personal attack on the source.

Yeah..they're not socialists or anything. Ha!

Get your socialism crap out of here.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Yeah..they're not socialists or anything. Ha!

Get your socialism crap out of here.

Way to avoid any response to the actual quote, i.e. "I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one."

You're the poster boy for brainless brand loyalty to GOP® and Christianity®.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Way to avoid any response to the actual quote, i.e. "I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one."

You're the poster boy for brainless brand loyalty to GOP® and Christianity®.

Why do you keep posting crap from socialists?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Why do you keep posting crap from socialists?

Why do you keep ducking the challenge of explaining why the quote was "crap?"

And, BTW, I trust you are refraining from the use of any and all "socialist" government programs, e.g., interstate highways, airports, bridges, dams, post office, etc.

[barryr]

Now don't forget" Protest and dissent is only "good for the country" when it always happens to side with the liberal agenda.

[bronclvr]

because the people protesting dont have any money, that is what they are protesting about. They want the 1% to give a bunch of money to the 99% regardless of if you work or not.

¡Ay, caramba! Ya can't fix stupid-:rofl:

[Rohirrim]

Yeah..they're not socialists or anything. Ha!

Get your socialism crap out of here.

Typical fascist. Trying to kill freedom of speech.

[Rohirrim]

because the people protesting dont have any money, that is what they are protesting about. They want the 1% to give a bunch of money to the 99% regardless of if you work or not.

That's more bull**** out of you. There is a wide range of people there. Unfortunately, since it is a truly grass roots protest and has no single theme (like the corporate directed tea party), the media doesn't know how to cover it, so the only people they put on camera are the ones who stand out (ie. those in silly costumes). Generally, what is happening is that Americans across a broad spectrum realize Wall Street has ****ed over the people of this country, and continues to **** over this country, with the help of a bought out government, and they are enraged.

The economics of America must be changed. We do not want a feudalist economic system where policies that hurt our people are shoved down our throats because they benefit global corporations who can afford to buy our government. Same thing going on around rest of the world. People want to seize control of their economies and have those economies serve the general welfare of the people. You know, like the Constitution says.

**** the IMF. **** the WTO. Our government exists to serve the interests of the people of the U.S., not globalist pirates.