Pavlov’s Negro

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

http://www.freedomsjournal.net/2010/11/22/pavlovs-negro/

In the early 1900s Russian physiologist Ivan Pavlov conducted experimental studies aimed at learning more about gastric digestive processes. He noticed that the animals used in his experiments, in this case a dog, began to salivate whenever the lab assistant, dressed in a white lab coat, entered the room. It was the lab assistant who feed the dogs. Pavlov concluded that the dog associated the food with the white coat of the lab assistant so that whenever the dog saw the white coated assistant enter the lab the dog figured it was going to be feed.

The same, I believe, can be said for African Americans who have continuously blindly given their loyalty to the Democrat Party. They vote the democrat party without even thinking about it. Many Blacks have been conditioned to believe that Democrats are for Blacks, and conversely, Republicans are not, regardless of the evidence (see the article The Myth of the Racist Republicans). Just the mention of supporting a Republican candidate for many Blacks is met with an emotional reaction that is unwarranted. The natural reaction to racism (stimulus) has been associated with the Republican Party (non-stimulus). Hence, racial mistrust and outright disgust has been transferred from racism to the Republicans party.




Preach it!

[BroncoInferno]

I am sure African-American voters would be happy to consider an alternative, provided that that alternative was not a party with regressive policies that would be damaging to their community. But, of course, racists like Hobo think it's just because they are too stupid to know any better.

[Rohirrim]

Cain has every reason to steer African American voters toward race politics and away from economic politics. The economic policies of the Republican Party are wiping out African American communities all across the country.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

Both you guys are the real racist. Please stop.

[BroncoInferno]

Both you guys are the real racist. Please stop.

It's racist for me to assume that African-Americans best know how to use their vote, and not racist for you to post and endorse an article that essentially says they are too stupid to know any better? There's right wing logic for you.

[Rohirrim]

I'm sure most blacks in this country have the street smarts to see a flim flam man like Cain coming from a mile away.

[Requiem]

Both you guys are the real racist. Please stop.

I was going to tell you the same thing.

It is pretty clear that you have zero knowledge or understanding of anything related to the political process.

Lets hope you're still in middle school or high school, it would make your behavior more excusable.

Rather than being "conditioned" to like Democrats, I'll just point to the era of Civil Rights to signify why there is an overwhelming majority of African-American support for Democratic ideas and values. The images of Strom Thurmond and other Republicans fillibustering civil rights legislation is going to be on the memories of those who had to hatefully endure them forever.

That is just one simple example to illustrate why the AA community votes for Democrats.

The worst thing about this article and by you posting it, is the underlying assumption that they aren't smart enough to think for themselves in regards to who they vote for.

Shameful.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

I was going to tell you the same thing.

It is pretty clear that you have zero knowledge or understanding of anything related to the political process.

Lets hope you're still in middle school or high school, it would make your behavior more excusable.

Rather than being "conditioned" to like Democrats, I'll just point to the era of Civil Rights to signify why there is an overwhelming majority of African-American support for Democratic ideas and values. The images of Strom Thurmond and other Republicans fillibustering civil rights legislation is going to be on the memories of those who had to hatefully endure them forever.

That is just one simple example to illustrate why the AA community votes for Democrats.

The worst thing about this article and by you posting it, is the underlying assumption that they aren't smart enough to think for themselves in regards to who they vote for.

Shameful.

Sooooooo, the "race" issue is just a political issuse. How enlightened. Please tell us more.

[Requiem]

Sooooooo, the "race" issue is just a political issuse. How enlightened. Please tell us more.

The article you provided sought to tell us that African-Americans are conditioned to politically like the Democrats.

I pointed out a significant era of history (not just political) that illustrates why the African-American community are more supportive of the Democratic Party as opposed to the Republican Party.

I didn't ever utter what you claimed.

Comprehension is key, but we know that such a skill evades you.

[W*GS]

Ol' Hobo doesn't even realize that by denigrating the intelligence of blacks, he just proves that 'baggers have an ugly streak of racism within their dogma.

Here's a free hint, Hobo - when in a hole, stop digging first.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

The article you provided sought to tell us that African-Americans are conditioned to politically like the Democrats.

I pointed out a significant era of history (not just political) that illustrates why the African-American community are more supportive of the Democratic Party as opposed to the Republican Party.

I didn't ever utter what you claimed.

Comprehension is key, but we know that such a skill evades you.

In the historical context of politics. Keep trying.

[Requiem]

In the historical context of politics. Keep trying.

Your article made race the issue in a political context, not me you stupid bastard.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

Your article made race the issue in a political context, not me you stupid bastard.

Name calling, check. Got anything new.

[BroncoInferno]

The real brainwashing has been done to so many blue-collar white workers who stupidly continue to support and vote for the party that takes money out of their pockets and funnels it to plutocrats. They've been convinced that things that will never effect them - like the estate tax, like lowing taxes on corporations instead of preventing them from avoiding them - is somehow in their interest to fight for.

[BroncoLifer]

I'm sure most blacks in this country have the street smarts to see a flim flam man like Cain coming from a mile away.

Your assertion is weakened by their inability to see Obama's flim flam.

[ant1999e]

Democrats are modern day slave owner. They keep blacks in their pocket by keeping them poor and dependent.on the government.
Republicans started civil rights for blacks. Democrats repeatedly voted against civil rights legislation.

[BroncoInferno]

Democrats are modern day slave owner. They keep blacks in their pocket by keeping them poor and dependent.on the government.
Republicans started civil rights for blacks. Democrats repeatedly voted against civil rights legislation.

You racist b****. Yeah, those darkies don't know what's best for them. They should vote for the party that funnels all their money to Wall Street. And you are ignorant about history. The Democrats who were opposed to Civil Rights defected to the Republican Party (Thurmond etc). That's why blacks stopped voting for them.

[ant1999e]

You racist b****. Yeah, those darkies don't know what's best for them. They should vote for the party that funnels all their money to Wall Street. And you are ignorant about history. The Democrats who were opposed to Civil Rights defected to the Republican Party (Thurmond etc). That's why blacks stopped voting for them.

Thurmond? He alone made the repubs racist? Never mind the many attempts by the repubs to pass civil rights legislation and the dems voting against it? LBJ voted against civil rights legislation. The only reason he pushed it was strickly political.

I'm racist? Maybe you're just mad because they've fooled you all these years. What have the dems done for the poor blacks or the poor of any other race? Not a got damn thing. They've kept them dependent on the government. Being poor and dependedt has become a lifestyle. The dems don't want the poor to better their lives. Then who would vote for them? The war on poverty was really a war to keep the poor poor.

But don't ask me, ask Allen West:

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[barryr]

More democrats voted against the Civil Rights Act than republicans did, but the liberals like to pretend and rewrite history(what a surprise) that they all defected to the republican party after they lost that vote despite the fact a higher percentage of republicans voted for it. So they defected to the party that supported that bill even more? Yeah, that makes sense. More BS spewed by the liberals who do not want to admit it is the democrats with the long history of racism.

[ant1999e]

More democrats voted against the Civil Rights Act than republicans did, but the liberals like to pretend and rewrite history(what a surprise) that they all defected to the republican party after they lost that vote despite the fact a higher percentage of republicans voted for it. So they defected to the party that supported that bill even more? Yeah, that makes sense. More BS spewed by the liberals who do not want to admit it is the democrats with the long history of racism.

But that's what they learned on MTV and Comedy Central.

[Pony Boy]

I am sure African-American voters would be happy to consider an alternative, provided that that alternative was not a party with regressive policies that would be damaging to their community. But, of course, racists like Hobo think it's just because they are too stupid to know any better.

Hummm ........ Black unemployment rate in the US is 16.7 percent, so lets give Obama and the Democrats a big pat on the back.

[Garcia Bronco]

Do people think Obama or Cain speak for the entire black "race"?

That's a narrow view. They don't. Further, if people do consider the race of a candidate....wouldn't that make them a racist is in the worse sort of way?

I'll be happy the day you racist people accept yourselves for what you are.

[Garcia Bronco]

I am sure African-American voters would be happy to consider an alternative, provided that that alternative was not a party with regressive policies that would be damaging to their community. But, of course, racists like Hobo think it's just because they are too stupid to know any better.

I would like to know which "regressive" policies you are refering to

[ant1999e]

I would like to know which "regressive" policies you are refering to

Welfare???

[Rohirrim]

Anybody who believes the Republican economic policies would be better for the already crippled black community is smoking some bad ****. Since Reagan came into office and installed the supply side economics mythology, those at the bottom of the economic scale have gone nowhere but down.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Anybody who believes the Republican economic policies would be better for the already crippled black community is smoking some bad ****. Since Reagan came into office and installed the supply side economics mythology, those at the bottom of the economic scale have gone nowhere but down.

And the Democratic economic policies have turned Black america into a giant plantation. See, I can spout talking points too. Use your brain, man.

[Rohirrim]

And the Democratic economic policies have turned Black america into a giant plantation. See, I can spout talking points too. Use your brain, man.

What I posted were facts. Refute them or STFU.

[Garcia Bronco]

Anybody who believes the Republican economic policies would be better for the already crippled black community is smoking some bad ****. Since Reagan came into office and installed the supply side economics mythology, those at the bottom of the economic scale have gone nowhere but down.

Contrasted to which economic policies?

[epicSocialism4tw]

http://www.freedomsjournal.net/2010/11/22/pavlovs-negro/



Preach it!

That's one brave dude.

[ant1999e]

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[ant1999e]

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[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

Anybody who believes the Republican economic policies would be better for the already crippled black community is smoking some bad ****. Since Reagan came into office and installed the supply side economics mythology, those at the bottom of the economic scale have gone nowhere but down.






What I posted were facts. Refute them or STFU.

This graph is from your friend W*GS. I'm sure a smart guy like you knows that minorities make up a larger proportion of the poor than whites. Here, I've placed the clues really close together for you. Tax increases and welfare are bad for the poor and minorities, tax cuts and less welfare is better.

Edit: So who should STFU? Hmmmmmmmmm.

[epicSocialism4tw]

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Brilliant man.

[Rohirrim]

This graph is from your friend W*GS. I'm sure a smart guy like you knows that minorities make up a larger proportion of the poor than whites. Here, I've placed the clues really close together for you. Tax increases and welfare are bad for the poor and minorities, tax cuts and less welfare is better.

Edit: So who should STFU? Hmmmmmmmmm.

What do tax cuts have to do with anything? How many of the poor even pay income taxes? Anyway, you're still believing that Reagan mythology that if we give the rich a million dollar tax cut and the poor a $1000 tax cut it all adds up eventually. Ha! What a dope.

Tax cuts are meaningless to the unemployed. What the Republicans favor is corporate control of the economy. What corporations want is short term profit. They will do anything to get it, including offshoring jobs, laying off American workers, and forcing working American's paychecks downward, not to mention dumping health care, dumping education, and getting rid of any and all regulations that benefit workers. Their only interest is in profit.

How do the poor get out of poverty? Jobs. What is the tea party position? Let the corporations get rid of the jobs and then we'll get rid of the safety net. Yeah. That will be great for poor minorities. ****ing dimwit.

[Rohirrim]

Contrasted to which economic policies?

Compared to the progressive policies America followed in the middle of the last century that made this country the strongest, and richest, on Earth, with the largest and wealthiest middle class in history. I don't know why you Right Wing simpletons can't grasp a concept that any kindergartner would understand: All against all makes us weaker while all of us working together makes us stronger. That's some basic ****.

As the economic chasm between rich and poor gets wider and wider, our country gets weaker and weaker. History shows that eventually, and inevitably, such disparities in wealth lead to the downfall of states. We've had thirty years of Reaganomics in America. It is destroying the country. And the Right wants to double down. How many times do you guys bang your head into the wall before you realize, "Hey! That hurts!"

[Tombstone RJ]

Cain has every reason to steer African American voters toward race politics and away from economic politics. The economic policies of the Republican Party are wiping out African American communities all across the country.

Wrong. Abortion is wiping out African American communities. But don't let those facts destroy your libral agenda.

[Rohirrim]

Wrong. Abortion is wiping out African American communities. But don't let those facts destroy your libral agenda.

Sometimes you post **** that is so stupid, it is inadvertently hilarious. Ha!

[Tombstone RJ]

Sometimes you post **** that is so stupid, it is inadvertently hilarious. Ha!

check out the numbers and then get back to me...

[Rohirrim]

check out the numbers and then get back to me...

This is the same bull**** the Right has been feeding us for thirty years, taking complex economic issues and twisting them into morals arguments where they can then be simplistically stripped down into another "Blame them libruls" meme. This was Lee Atwater's genius. Suck the simpletons in on morals issues and get them to vote against their own economic interests. Abortion is a symptom, not the disease.

Of course, the manipulators of the Right Wing machine never have had any intention of doing anything about abortion, and haven't lifted a finger to do anything about it for thirty years. They just use it to get the yokels to vote for them. Like flag burning and gay marriage.

[Tombstone RJ]

This is the same bull**** the Right has been feeding us for thirty years, taking complex economic issues and twisting them into morals arguments where they can then be simplistically stripped down into another "Blame them libruls" meme. This was Lee Atwater's genius. Suck the simpletons in on morals issues and get them to vote against their own economic interests. Abortion is a symptom, not the disease.

Of course, the manipulators of the Right Wing machine never have had any intention of doing anything about abortion, and haven't lifted a finger to do anything about it for thirty years. They just use it to get the yokels to vote for them. Like flag burning and gay marriage.

nice dodge and no answer. Typical. Sad but typical.

[Rohirrim]

nice dodge and no answer. Typical. Sad but typical.

More likely that you just didn't understand the answer. If I look through the cupboards of the poor I will find many boxes of Kraft macaroni and cheese. Ergo, bad nutrition is wiping out the poor, black communities.

[BroncoInferno]

Wrong. Abortion is wiping out African American communities. But don't let those facts destroy your libral agenda.

:spit:

You poor, dumb bastard.

[Garcia Bronco]

:spit:

You poor, dumb bastard.

What he's getting at is that black women in the US is significantly a higher risk or more likely of having an abortion.

[BroncoInferno]

What he's getting at is that black women in the US is significantly a higher risk or more likely of having an abortion.

I know what he's getting at. I don't see the relevance to the topic. That's what Ro is getting. The right wing uses non sequitur moral slogans to distract from the real issues.

[Garcia Bronco]

Compared to the progressive policies America followed in the middle of the last century that made this country the strongest, and richest, on Earth, with the largest and wealthiest middle class in history. I don't know why you Right Wing simpletons can't grasp a concept that any kindergartner would understand: All against all makes us weaker while all of us working together makes us stronger. That's some basic ****.

As the economic chasm between rich and poor gets wider and wider, our country gets weaker and weaker. History shows that eventually, and inevitably, such disparities in wealth lead to the downfall of states. We've had thirty years of Reaganomics in America. It is destroying the country. And the Right wants to double down. How many times do you guys bang your head into the wall before you realize, "Hey! That hurts!"

But which specific polices are you refering to? What are these regressive polices?

And in the 20th century it was the Democrats who passed Jim Crow. It was the Democrats that fought the right of the Negro to vote in this country. It wasn't conservatives. This is after Republicans ensured the Negro's right to vote from 1870 on where some 35 Negro's served in our Congress. In 1900 when the Democrats regained the South....they passed Jim Crow and poll taxes.

So I ask again...which polices are you refering too?

[Garcia Bronco]

I know what he's getting at. I don't see the relevance to the topic. That's what Ro is getting. The right wing tries to turn issues into simplistic moral units designed to deflect from the real meat of the issues.

I can't speak for what the "right wing" believes. All I can do is preach education and personal responsibility. Personal responsibility is the meat of most issues. If black men and woemn were taking proper precautions when they engage in sexual activity then maybe they wouldn't lead the nation in abortions. Where does that start? Education.

[Tombstone RJ]

I can't speak for what the "right wing" believes. All I can do is preach education and personal responsibility. Personal responsibility is the meat of most issues. If black men and woemn were taking proper precautions when they engage in sexual activity then maybe they wouldn't lead the nation in abortions. Where does that start? Education.

Actually, it starts with black men committing themselves to marriage and the family. I know the libby left hates to hear things like this but when you have a significant number of young black men going to prison rather than college, much of that is due to single parent homes where the mother simply cannot control her young son.

fact is, the libby left is gonna blame everyone except the people who make the mistakes. Conservatives like myself don't like the fact that 70% of abortions happen to African Americans and that a huge, huge number of African American men are going to prison instead of college.

the libby left will blame poverty, the rich, the educational system and everything else they can point to but themselves. Their welfare state is NOT working for the black community.

let me repeat that. The welfare state is NOT WORKING for the African American community.

[ant1999e]

Actually, it starts with black men committing themselves to marriage and the family. I know the libby left hates to hear things like this but when you have a significant number of young black men going to prison rather than college, much of that is due to single parent homes where the mother simply cannot control her young son.

fact is, the libby left is gonna blame everyone except the people who make the mistakes. Conservatives like myself don't like the fact that 70% of abortions happen to African Americans and that a huge, huge number of African American men are going to prison instead of college.

the libby left will blame poverty, the rich, the educational system and everything else they can point to but themselves. Their welfare state is NOT working for the black community.

let me repeat that. The welfare state is NOT WORKING for the African American community.

Uh oh, now they're gonna call you a racist.

[Tombstone RJ]

Uh oh, now they're gonna call you a racist.

I know. I want to save African Americans via marriage and acknowleging that abortion is destroying them yet I'm a racist.

[Garcia Bronco]

True story:

In junior high I was constantly made fun of of by a group of black kids, often, for carrying my school books and making good grades.

LOL...WTF?

I've often wondered where this mentality came from? I knew some of their parents....these parents grew up in the 50's and 60's and would truly understand the fight for equality. Especially around education...and their kids don't even know where their school books are.....

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

What do tax cuts have to do with anything? How many of the poor even pay income taxes? Anyway, you're still believing that Reagan mythology that if we give the rich a million dollar tax cut and the poor a $1000 tax cut it all adds up eventually. Ha! What a dope.

Tax cuts are meaningless to the unemployed. What the Republicans favor is corporate control of the economy. What corporations want is short term profit. They will do anything to get it, including offshoring jobs, laying off American workers, and forcing working American's paychecks downward, not to mention dumping health care, dumping education, and getting rid of any and all regulations that benefit workers. Their only interest is in profit.

How do the poor get out of poverty? Jobs. What is the tea party position? Let the corporations get rid of the jobs and then we'll get rid of the safety net. Yeah. That will be great for poor minorities. ****ing dimwit.

At this point do you even know what you're posting. You said :


Anybody who believes the Republican economic policies would be better for the already crippled black community is smoking some bad ****.



That graph provided by your "twin" points to the the exact opposite of what you think. Stop drinking the Lib kool aid its got lead in it.

Try again.

Edit: Interesting that every time on that graph, when there was a tax cut the poor benefited. When the welfare state was pulled back the poor benefited. Care to explain.