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Blart
09-30-2011, 07:11 PM
The Broncos are 0-4-1 against the Packers in Wisconsin.
The Broncos are 13 point underdogs according to Vegas.

ESPN's fantasy rating for Orton is as follows,
Orton completed 24 passes last week and still couldn't reach 175 yards through the air. Green Bay, coming off a three-sack game versus the Bears, are going to force him to throw quickly, which means more short dinks and dunks. Projected points: 9 (9 is really bad, for you non-nerds)


And ya know what? They're wrong.


Green Bay's secondary has been sliced to shreds with huge 300+ yard games by Brees, Cutler, and a rookie QB.

Everybody thinks Green Bay will win, and that confidence can be deceptive. The pack nearly let Carolina beat them because confidence got to their heads, and I promise you they're not taking Denver seriously.

As for the Broncos record, we're a deceptive 1-2, as we've had all close games against much improved teams.

Another reason Orton will be great? This isn't another game where we see McGahee get the ball at the goal line, as running is not an option vs the Pack. This game falls completely on Orton's shoulders, and he's about to prove why he's a starting QB in the NFL.

Tebow fans and pessimists take note. Orton is about to show you what a real QB looks like.

I'm putting money on this game. I was going to take the points, but hell, I'm making this thread so I'm going all in for the Broncos win. Mark it.

EDIT:

A great point made by strafen,

Orton was 3-1 against the Packers when he was a Bear

Bigdawg26
09-30-2011, 07:13 PM
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cutthemdown
09-30-2011, 07:15 PM
I actually think Orton has a chance to be knocked out of this game. Broncos won't be able to block them IMO if they can't run. If orton is throwing a lot of 3rd down and long I could see this being the game he gets injured.

baja
09-30-2011, 07:16 PM
Orton will have a good game when the O line gels - could be this week but I doubt it.

WABronco
09-30-2011, 07:25 PM
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Eldorado
09-30-2011, 07:27 PM
Luv it!! Still, I think I can get 15 out of my pack friend, so I'll take em.

go_broncos
09-30-2011, 07:28 PM
The Broncos are 0-4-1 against the Packers in Wisconsin.
The Broncos are 13 point underdogs according to Vegas.

ESPN's fantasy rating for Orton is as follows,

(9 is really bad, for you non-nerds)


And ya know what? They're wrong.

Green Bay's secondary has been sliced to shreds with huge 300+ yard games by Brees, Cutler, and a rookie QB.

Everybody thinks Green Bay will win, and that confidence can be deceptive. The pack nearly let Carolina beat them because confidence got to their heads, and I promise you they're not taking Denver seriously.

As for the Broncos record, we're a deceptive 1-2, as we've had all close games against much improved teams.

Another reason Orton will be great? This isn't another game where we see McGahee get the ball at the goal line, as running is not an option vs the Pack. This game falls completely on Orton's shoulders, and he's about to prove why he's a starting QB in the NFL.

Tebow fans and pessimists take note. Orton is about to show you what a real QB looks like.

I'm putting money on this game. I was going to take the points, but hell, I'm making this thread so I'm going all in for the Broncos win. Mark it.

Hilarious!

hambone13
09-30-2011, 07:29 PM
Green Bay's secondary has been sliced to shreds with huge 300+ yard games by Brees, Cutler, and a rookie QB.

Everybody thinks Green Bay will win, and that confidence can be deceptive. The pack nearly let Carolina beat them because confidence got to their heads, and I promise you they're not taking Denver seriously.

As for the Broncos record, we're a deceptive 1-2, as we've had all close games against much improved teams.

Another reason Orton will be great? This isn't another game where we see McGahee get the ball at the goal line, as running is not an option vs the Pack. This game falls completely on Orton's shoulders, and he's about to prove why he's a starting QB in the NFL.

Tebow fans and pessimists take note. Orton is about to show you what a real QB looks like.

I'm putting money on this game. I was going to take the points, but hell, I'm making this thread so I'm going all in for the Broncos win. Mark it.

Hilarious!Hilarious!

I appreciate your optimism but to think that "we're a deceptive 1-2" is ludicrous. Orton never comes through in the clutch. The fact that we won't be able to run against them and their pass rush is as good as it is, is all we need to know. If the game rides on his shoulders, that's when he chokes. The premise of this thread, is a pipe dream and frankly ruined any chance of it being a trap game out of pure karma. Not to mention, the boys mentioned it might be as such on the podcast, ugh. The fact that Carolina played them as tight as they did is exactly why, IMO, they will come out to shred us with multiple, frequent blizts. KO might get his ear bitten off in this one.

ludo21
09-30-2011, 07:30 PM
I do see us making this game closer than the experts think. A win is doubtful though

Eldorado
09-30-2011, 07:31 PM
This ain't a gambling thread boys. This is a 'go broncos' thread, so sack up or move on.

lostknight
09-30-2011, 07:41 PM
Green Bay's 2-5 alignment should be tailor made for Orton. Look for a lot of empty backfields with the game on Orton's shoulders.

hambone13
09-30-2011, 07:42 PM
Green Bay's 2-5 alignment should be tailor made for Orton. Look for a lot of empty backfields with the game on Orton's shoulders.

Tailor made for multiple bat downs!

TheReverend
09-30-2011, 08:24 PM
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myMind
09-30-2011, 08:41 PM
Another reason Orton will be great? This game falls completely on Orton's shoulders, and he's about to prove why he's a starting QB in the NFL.

Tebow fans and pessimists take note. Orton is about to show you what a real QB looks like.

I'm putting money on this game. I was going to take the points, but hell, I'm making this thread so I'm going all in for the Broncos win. Mark it.

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/8763/loldqb.jpg

vonqkilla
09-30-2011, 08:49 PM
Hey blart,

Ill take GB minus 3 for an avatar bet.

Play2win
09-30-2011, 08:49 PM
Only if we get the ball to Lloyd. :)

Taco John
09-30-2011, 09:05 PM
If Orton throws 3 TDs in this game, it's his job all season without complaint from me.

TheReverend
09-30-2011, 09:10 PM
If Orton throws 3 TDs in this game, it's his job all season without complaint from me.

I think 3 passing TDs is extremely possible.






...I think we'd still lose by 20 in that scenario though Ha!

broncocalijohn
09-30-2011, 09:13 PM
Blart has some points and we know that teams have been putting yards up at will against their defense. I just want to see an Orton that puts up yards AND scores TDs. 300 yards and 16 points wont cut it.

Doggcow
09-30-2011, 09:16 PM
If Orton throws 3 TDs in this game, it's his job all season without complaint from me.

But then we go into the draft still not knowing what we have in Tim Tebow.

epicSocialism4tw
09-30-2011, 09:30 PM
This will possibly be Orton's best game of the season.

The odds are good that the Broncos are going to be down by 10+ points...possibly even as soon as the end of the first quarter. As we all well know, Orton is at his best when the prevent defense takes the field and the opposing defenders begin thinking of where they're going to eat after the game.

The closer this game is, the more likely it is that Orton has a below-average performance.

vonqkilla
09-30-2011, 09:37 PM
If Orton throws 3 TDs in this game, it's his job all season without complaint from me.

Are you serious?

Remember the KC blowout, then he fell apart.

One good game wouldnt make up for his multiple chokes vs oak and tenn. We would be 3-0 with a better qb.

vonqkilla
09-30-2011, 09:42 PM
Orton will have garbage stats btw because we don't have the weapons to spread GB, and our Oline wont be able to give the wrs time to run deep routes. Kyle will be forced to step up after 5 step drops because Mathews will smoke our Te forced to help Franklin. Our Te and rt cant handle gbs blitz package.

Beadle Bailey and JD are so sketchy as well.

When he steps up he will look short and hit and miss on short crosses that might lead to a high comp % apologists pt to, which is just meaningless yards like handing off on 3rd and ten and running for 7 yards.

Also, I start 87 in fantasy, but he cant beat gbs corners, will draw woodson probably, and its gonna be a long day.

Pony Boy
09-30-2011, 09:48 PM
If Orton throws 3 TDs in this game, it's his job all season without complaint from me.

Do you mean to the same team?

DarkHorse30
09-30-2011, 09:50 PM
first series:

8-K.Orton pass incomplete short middle to 87-E.Decker
23-W.McGahee left tackle for no gain
8-K.Orton pass short right to 23-W.McGahee for -4 yards

2nd series:

23-W.McGahee up the middle for 3 yards
8-K.Orton pass short middle to 87-E.Decker for 5 yards
23-W.McGahee right tackle for no gain

3rd series:

8-K.Orton pass short right to 46-S.Larsen to for 2 yards
8-K.Orton pass incomplete short middle to 86-D.Fells
8-K.Orton pass short right to 84-B.Lloyd to for 1 yard

etc., etc.

The only way Denver wins is if our defense prevents GB from scoring, and scores. Go Broncos. Yay.

vonqkilla
09-30-2011, 09:54 PM
first series:

8-K.Orton pass incomplete short middle to 87-E.Decker
23-W.McGahee left tackle for no gain
8-K.Orton pass short right to 23-W.McGahee to DEN 16 for -4
etc., etc.

The only way Denver wins is if our defense prevents GB from scoring, and scores. Go Broncos. Yay.

Lmao at 2nd and 10 Mcgehee for no gain.

For those that watched closely last week, 23s best gains came on delays and draws, what does that tell you?

strafen
09-30-2011, 10:39 PM
Orton is 3-1 against the Packers when he was a Bear, but we're not the bears...

KipCorrington25
09-30-2011, 10:45 PM
I think 3 passing TDs is extremely possible.






...I think we'd still lose by 20 in that scenario though Ha!

And 3 picks and lord knows how many fumbles and just plain drops... the guy is a choke artist.

maven
09-30-2011, 10:59 PM
ANY GIVEN SUNDAY

So anything can happen. Problem is, Rodgers is awesome this year.

hambone13
09-30-2011, 11:07 PM
Are you serious?

Remember the KC blowout, then he fell apart.

One good game wouldnt make up for his multiple chokes vs oak and tenn. We would be 3-0 with a better qb.

I think you missed that point, that it's highly unlikely that he actually does this. Listen to the Podcasts....TJ's pretty adamant about Orton being out.

maven
09-30-2011, 11:07 PM
This game falls completely on Orton's shoulders, and he's about to prove why he's a starting QB in the NFL.

Orton is about to show you what a real QB looks like.


This is a game where Orton proves he's the man for the Denver Broncos. If he wants to be QB for the rest of the season, you have to get it done on the road against the Champs. I'm rooting for him.

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ortonjack.gif

vonqkilla
09-30-2011, 11:12 PM
This is a game where Orton proves he's the man for the Denver Broncos. If he wants to be QB for the rest of the season, you have to get it done on the road against the Champs. I'm rooting for om/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ortonjack.gif[/IMG]

Lol, nice gif.

Im rooting for us peeking through my hands. So sick of KO, hes like a stalker.

maven
09-30-2011, 11:14 PM
Lol, nice gif.

Im rooting for us peeking through my hands. So sick of KO, hes like a stalker.

He pulls a game out against the champs, back home against the Chargers who aren't playing great this year, you never know. Orton can have this team 3-2 at the bye, it's up to him to accomplish it.

Dagmar
09-30-2011, 11:14 PM
I'm GOING TO STATE SOMETHING THAT VERY LIKELY WON'T HAPPEN SO IF IN THE ONE IN A MILLION CHANCE IT DOES I CAN GLOAT ON AN ANONYMOUS INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD.

vonqkilla
09-30-2011, 11:16 PM
He pulls a game out against the champs, back home against the Chargers who aren't playing great this year, you never know. Orton can have this team 3-2 at the bye, it's up to him to accomplish it.

I give you credit for your optimism, pass the koolaid, mine ran out week one.

maven
09-30-2011, 11:17 PM
I'm GOING TO STATE SOMETHING THAT VERY LIKELY WON'T HAPPEN SO IF IN THE ONE IN A MILLION CHANCE IT DOES I CAN GLOAT ON AN ANONYMOUS INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD.

Does Orton have a shot to help the Denver Broncos win the game?

SoCalBronco
09-30-2011, 11:18 PM
I continue to get this feeling that we're not going to get blown out and in fact, somehow, it will be rather competitive, at least until the final moments when it will slip away. Perhaps because we've been pretty scrappy so far and have shown some good defense and are getting some key personnel back, but I just get this feeling its not going to be an out and out rape. Usually when these Vegas lines reach levels of -12 or more, it rarely goes that way.

Ofcourse, I won't be shocked if we got raped. Certainly, that's among the most plausible of outcomes, since GB is probably the best team out there (again) and they're at home. I just have a funny feeling sometimes about these things. We'll see what happens.

vonqkilla
09-30-2011, 11:22 PM
I think you missed that point, that it's highly unlikely that he actually does this. Listen to the Podcasts....TJ's pretty adamant about Orton being out.

I listened to a couple, kind of monotonous though, just repeating what I saw. I think they should cut them to 30 minutes. Maybe im just burned out. I really liked the ones on cincy and oak though.

maven
09-30-2011, 11:23 PM
I give you credit for your optimism, pass the koolaid, mine ran out week one.

If he goes into the bye week 1-4, he's done in my mind. If you can't beat good teams, then you're not going to the playoffs. Denver would already be 0-2 in the division, 0-3 in the conference.

vonqkilla
09-30-2011, 11:27 PM
I continue to get this feeling that we're not going to get blown out and in fact, somehow, it will be rather competitive, at least until the final moments when it will slip away. Perhaps because we've been pretty scrappy so far and have shown some good defense and are getting some key personnel back, but I just get this feeling its not going to be an out and out rape. Usually when these Vegas lines reach levels of -12 or more, it rarely goes that way.

Ofcourse, I won't be shocked if we got raped. Certainly, that's among the most plausible of outcomes, since GB is probably the best team out there (again) and they're at home. I just have a funny feeling sometimes about these things. We'll see what happens.

Matchups Socal. Tenn had one wr and Matt H.

Rodgers, jennings, nelson, driver, jones, FINLEY, and Starks is a beast.
On the road.

Our weapons, a possession wr, a diva smaller wr, and willis and KO.

GB has been weak vs the pass, but are tough in the redzone.

We will trade fgs for tds and get ran at best. Also Matthews vs Franklin...
Von and Doom will have to win this game for us with nonstop pressure, and force takeaways.

SoCalBronco
09-30-2011, 11:31 PM
Matchups Socal. Tenn had one wr and Matt H.

Rodgers, jennings, nelson, driver, jones, FINLEY, and Starks is a beast.
On the road.

Our weapons, a possession wr, a diva smaller wr, and willis and KO.

GB has been weak vs the pass, but are tough in the redzone.

We will trade fgs for tds and get run at best. .

Again...I'm not disputing that the matchups all basically suck and from a talent aspect we should get flat out owned, but its just a little gut feeling, not based on rationality or anything like that.

maven
09-30-2011, 11:34 PM
While the team is 1-2, the season isn't lost.

DenverBroncosJM
09-30-2011, 11:35 PM
Book marking this thread, could be epic around 1:00 pm Sunday.

vonqkilla
09-30-2011, 11:36 PM
Again...I'm not disputing that the matchups all basically suck and from a talent aspect we should get flat out owned, but its just a little gut feeling, not based on rationality or anything like that.

Ok. I felt that way before SB32.....



Lol...

Lots of ” we could win and gut feeling ” but only blart is calling his shot.

I got the pack 45 - 16 & apologists blame the defense. Kyle gets a pass because ” our wrs are hurt, champ didnt play, the def sucked, blaaaa blaa blaa”

NUB
09-30-2011, 11:38 PM
I would totally be onboard with the "sneaky win" theory if Green Bay hadn't already been scared by the Carolina game. I think they will come out and crush us in front of their home crowd to make up for that game.

maven
09-30-2011, 11:39 PM
If the Broncos go 1-4 into the bye, they would have go 9-2 the rest of the season to possibly qualify for the playoffs. It's now or never for Orton and the Broncos.

vonqkilla
09-30-2011, 11:41 PM
If the Broncos go 1-4 into the bye, they would have go 9-2 the rest of the season to possibly qualify for the playoffs. It's now or never for Orton and the Broncos.

In before ” playoffs!?!” Mora

Orange&BlueMohawk
10-01-2011, 12:02 AM
I actually think Orton has a chance to be knocked out of this game. Broncos won't be able to block them IMO if they can't run. If orton is throwing a lot of 3rd down and long I could see this being the game he gets "injured."

I hope this is what you meant hahaha

Orange&BlueMohawk
10-01-2011, 12:07 AM
I would totally be onboard with the "sneaky win" theory if Green Bay hadn't already been scared by the Carolina game. I think they will come out and crush us in front of their home crowd to make up for that game.

I agree. If what the other guy earlier in the thread was saying is true, their pedestal was shaken and now they will want to show up and prove that they are going for the repeat.

Agamemnon
10-01-2011, 12:52 AM
Orton is 3-1 against the Packers when he was a Bear, but we're not the bears...

And the Packers aren't those Packers.

maher_tyler
10-01-2011, 12:56 AM
This will possibly be Orton's best game of the season.

The odds are good that the Broncos are going to be down by 10+ points...possibly even as soon as the end of the first quarter. As we all well know, Orton is at his best when the prevent defense takes the field and the opposing defenders begin thinking of where they're going to eat after the game.

The closer this game is, the more likely it is that Orton has a below-average performance.

So true!

Archer81
10-01-2011, 01:19 AM
I'll tell you what will happen. Orton has average numbers through three quarters. GB goes up by 14-17 pts, and lays off. Orton ends up with a 300 yard day and 2 TD's. Of course he will throw a pick at a crucial time or fumble or get sacked in the RZ, but per the usual, the arguments the next day will include the inevitable "there are alot of problems with Denver. Orton is not one of them..."

Insanity will ensue.

:Broncos:

epicSocialism4tw
10-01-2011, 01:55 AM
I'll tell you what will happen. Orton has average numbers through three quarters. GB goes up by 14-17 pts, and lays off. Orton ends up with a 300 yard day and 2 TD's. Of course he will throw a pick at a crucial time or fumble or get sacked in the RZ, but per the usual, the arguments the next day will include the inevitable "there are alot of problems with Denver. Orton is not one of them..."

Insanity will ensue.

:Broncos:

Bingo.

Spider
10-01-2011, 02:30 AM
This ain't a gambling thread boys. This is a 'go broncos' thread, so sack up or move on.

^5

ColoradoDarin
10-01-2011, 05:40 AM
We're down 28-3 at half after Orton throws 3 ints. Green Bay starts playing prevent and Orton racks up garbage time stats, finishes with 350+ yards 2 tds and 3 ints. We lose 49-20, but ESPN will praise Orton's stats.

OABB
10-01-2011, 05:58 AM
I can get behind a rah rah thread...however OP is biased because of political reasoning and therefore thread has no credibility.

also, god hates blart.

Gort
10-01-2011, 06:31 AM
This game falls completely on Orton's shoulders, and he's about to prove why he's a starting QB in the NFL.

sammich monster remains skeptical.

http://jennashworth.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/sandwich.jpg

strafen
10-01-2011, 07:32 AM
And the Packers aren't those Packers.People are optimistic, can't blame them for trying...

More shocking to me is the amount of people coming out of the woodwork saying they think it can happen. LOL
I wonder what is it they see when they're watching Orton play.
I guess two wasted years have not been enough...

Can Orton have a great game?
Yes, he's bound to eventually have one this season; hopefully against the chiefs. Ha!

gunns
10-01-2011, 07:35 AM
There is no way I'd put money down for Denver to win.

GB's defense is ranked somewhere around 28 or 29. They are in the 30's as far as pass defense and about 20th for TD's given up. BUT, they are number one in rush defense AND in the top 5 for both INT's and sacks. I see a lot of no gain for McGahee, INT's for Orton and a lot of fetal position.

strafen
10-01-2011, 07:36 AM
There is no way I'd put money down for Denver to win.

GB's defense is ranked somewhere around 28 or 29. They are in the 30's as far as pass defense and about 20th for TD's given up. BUT, they are number one in rush defense AND in the top 5 for both INT's and sacks. I see a lot of no gain for McGahee, INT's for Orton and a lot of fetal position.Why not?
Is being guaranteed by Blart :strong:

strafen
10-01-2011, 07:42 AM
This game falls completely on Orton's shoulders, and he's about to prove why he's a starting QB in the NFL.
Hopefully you've had a couple of beers when you decided to make this thread ROFL!

Orton is about to show you what a real QB looks like.
Yup, he'll be pointing his finger out towards the Packers bench

oubronco
10-01-2011, 08:16 AM
I like it

Go Broncos!!!

ICON
10-01-2011, 08:32 AM
http://www.randomblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/00101.jpg


Love my Broncos but I see the game playing out more like this 17 - 31
fudge packers.

vonqkilla
10-01-2011, 08:42 AM
Its like an abusive relationship.

” it'll be different this time, he's changed”

Lol

EmpireOrange
10-01-2011, 08:47 AM
Green Bay's 2-5 alignment should be tailor made for Orton. Look for a lot of empty backfields with the game on Orton's shoulders.

This is one of the dumbest pieces of analysis I've ever read. If the Broncos become one demensional and pass all the time, I wouldn't take them with a 28 point line. It'll get ugly. They have to run the ball, control the time of possession and get at least 5 3 - 6 play and outs on defense. They throw the ball early and often, Denver gets clobbered.

Pendejo
10-01-2011, 08:54 AM
I think 3 passing TDs is extremely possible.






...I think we'd still lose by 20 in that scenario though Ha!

I looked it up very quickly the other day, so I am probably wrong, but I found three games in which Orton has thrown for 3 or more touchdowns (On with the Donks). Two were losses. It's not that surprising though. Orton takes what he is given, and his happy with it. Defenses like it two as they only have 60 yards of field to defend at the most.

dbfan21
10-01-2011, 09:13 AM
Orton will have garbage stats btw because we don't have the weapons to spread GB, and our Oline wont be able to give the wrs time to run deep routes. Kyle will be forced to step up after 5 step drops because Mathews will smoke our Te forced to help Franklin. Our Te and rt cant handle gbs blitz package.

Beadle Bailey and JD are so sketchy as well.

When he steps up he will look short and hit and miss on short crosses that might lead to a high comp % apologists pt to, which is just meaningless yards like handing off on 3rd and ten and running for 7 yards.

Also, I start 87 in fantasy, but he cant beat gbs corners, will draw woodson probably, and its gonna be a long day.

I think 84 draws Woodson. 87 is a better start in FF.

Ranger24
10-01-2011, 09:26 AM
I see no way in hell we win this game. Carolina already gave the Pack their trap game scare. Orton with the game on his sholders is just a scary thought. I trust our defence more at this point in the season. Hopefully we can find a way to sneak by, but it is probably not going to happen. Matthews will find the pocket sloth over and over again, and Rogers will simply overpower our defence.
I do think our team will play its best game, this is our super bowl, we don't have the guns to take down the Packers.

ICON
10-01-2011, 09:43 AM
The Broncos are 0-4-1 against the Packers in Wisconsin.
The Broncos are 13 point underdogs according to Vegas.

ESPN's fantasy rating for Orton is as follows,
(9 is really bad, for you non-nerds)


And ya know what? They're wrong.


Green Bay's secondary has been sliced to shreds with huge 300+ yard games by Brees, Cutler, and a rookie QB.

Everybody thinks Green Bay will win, and that confidence can be deceptive. The pack nearly let Carolina beat them because confidence got to their heads, and I promise you they're not taking Denver seriously.

As for the Broncos record, we're a deceptive 1-2, as we've had all close games against much improved teams.

Another reason Orton will be great? This isn't another game where we see McGahee get the ball at the goal line, as running is not an option vs the Pack. This game falls completely on Orton's shoulders, and he's about to prove why he's a starting QB in the NFL.

Tebow fans and pessimists take note. Orton is about to show you what a real QB looks like.

I'm putting money on this game. I was going to take the points, but hell, I'm making this thread so I'm going all in for the Broncos win. Mark it.

EDIT:

A great point made by strafen,

Hopefully With Doom back, him and Von will be pressuring Rodgers all game and can help keep the game from getting out of control.


But my fear is BJ Raji and Clay Matthews will absolutely destroy Orton.

Jetmeck
10-01-2011, 09:52 AM
I don't give a crap what ORTON does, he still sucks ass when it counts and your not gonna just throw a switch and change that. Just like the Chefs stunk it up in preseason and what they got 0-3.

Any ORTON cheerleader needs a new job, including the OP....!

Punisher
10-01-2011, 10:05 AM
Should i start Decker this week or bench him for Hunter (49ers)

Dedhed
10-01-2011, 10:41 AM
Does Orton have a shot to help the Denver Broncos win the game?

Depends on your definition of "help". If you mean to give him credit for being on the field if the team carries him to a win, then yes, he has a chance.

If, on the other hand, you define "help" as playing a key role in leading this team to a huge upset win, then no.

Arkie
10-01-2011, 10:46 AM
The Broncos are 13 point underdogs according to Vegas.

The last time the Broncos were double-digit underdogs to the Packers was in the Super Bowl.

Dedhed
10-01-2011, 10:51 AM
If Orton throws 3 TDs in this game, it's his job all season without complaint from me.
So if Orton manages a decent game, even in yet another loss against the 31st ranked passing team in the NFL you're going to consider him the answer?

Sorry if that seems unbelievably dumb to me.

Orton probably will put up good numbers this week. Mostly when the game really isn't in question anymore, and the Ortonites will sing the praises of his effort against the "best team in the NFL".

When the fact is, this defense has been absolutely shredded through the air. They've given up 360 yds and two TDs through the air on average thus far.

This game is tailor made for Orton to put up hollow stats in a losing effort, but the folks who still, mind numbingly, think Orton is the answer will go bonkers if Orton even approaches the numbers that the Packers are giving up every week.

vonqkilla
10-01-2011, 12:35 PM
Woodson floats around, but I think lloyd will be the X at left wr, and thats tramonwilliams side. Decker will probably get some slot work, but I bet woodson floats to him. They zone blitz alot, the middle is in flux, ask Big Ben...

uplink
10-01-2011, 01:21 PM
I agree Orton will play decent. He always seems to play well enough to keep his job and at this point if he sinks it up in GB he is getting close to being benched.

Pick Six
10-01-2011, 06:19 PM
The defense will probably lose it for Denver, like usual...

randomtask
10-01-2011, 06:32 PM
The defense will probably lose it for Denver, like usual...

Question: Would you blame the last loss more on the defense or the offense?

OABB
10-01-2011, 06:33 PM
The defense will probably lose it for Denver, like usual...

"the defense" is a weird nickname for orton. When did he pick that up?

Agamemnon
10-01-2011, 06:35 PM
The defense will probably lose it for Denver, like usual...

So the offense scoring less than 20 ppg so far this season has nothing to do with their losses?

Pick Six
10-01-2011, 06:41 PM
Question: Would you blame the last loss more on the defense or the offense?

Actually, I would put the last loss on the entire team...from the long run given up by the defense, to the crucial late-game INT by Orton, to an offensive line that is still gelling, to the infamous "run up the middle" playcalling on 4th down...

OABB
10-01-2011, 06:45 PM
Actually, I would put the last loss on the entire team...from the long run given up by the defense, to the crucial late-game INT by Orton, to an offensive line that is still gelling, to the infamous "run up the middle" playcalling on 4th down...

You forgot another interception.

randomtask
10-01-2011, 06:49 PM
Actually, I would put the last loss on the entire team...from the long run given up by the defense, to the crucial late-game INT by Orton, to an offensive line that is still gelling, to the infamous "run up the middle" playcalling on 4th down...

That's why I said which part of the team do you blame more, the offense or defense?

bronco militia
10-01-2011, 07:39 PM
I agree Orton will play decent. He always seems to play well enough to keep his job and at this point if he sinks it up in GB he is getting close to being benched.

huh? since when? at KC? at Arizona?

Ranger24
10-02-2011, 08:38 AM
That's why I said which part of the team do you blame more, the offense or defense?

I know your not asking me... but I blame 'The Pocket Sloth' himself for the loss in Tenn. Squarely at his feet. To many turnovers. The defence, special teams, oline all played well enough to win that game. The WR's, the few we had, made some explosive plays. The running game sucked but what do you expect.

Bronx33
10-02-2011, 10:03 AM
I expect nothing new from the pocket sloth (he is what he is) i also see green bay owning this game from start to finish hope i am wrong but GB looks like the real thing again and we are speed bumps.

bronco militia
10-02-2011, 10:08 AM
the broncos will keep it close, but then you know what happens at the end

Jesterhole
10-02-2011, 10:38 AM
the broncos will keep it close, but then you know what happens at the end

Orton drives the team to the 35, and then:

A) Fumbles the ball
B) Throws a pick
C) Takes a sack on 3rd and 4th down
D) Throws a 4 yard pass on 4th and 15

go_broncos
10-02-2011, 11:01 AM
Orton having a good game against GB..Keep dreaming..

montrose
10-02-2011, 11:29 AM
Orton will have a good game when the O line gels - could be this week but I doubt it.

I'd argue Orton's pass protection has been above average the last two weeks. He was only sacked 3 times in the last 2 games (1 of which is when he ran himself out of bounds).

montrose
10-02-2011, 11:30 AM
If Orton throws 3 TDs in this game, it's his job all season without complaint from me.

Dude could throw 10 TDs, I'm still not comfortale with a lame-duck, can't wait to leave, free-agent-to-be playing QB for the Broncos.

Maximus
10-02-2011, 11:37 AM
If Orton throws 3 TDs in this game, it's his job all season without complaint from me.

But Rogers has 6 td's... do you still support Orton? or will the blame for the defense be Ortons fault too?

teknic
10-02-2011, 12:09 PM
Guess who Jay Glazer says is playing today.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d822be34a/article/broncos-plan-to-give-tebow-some-plays-at-qb-vs-packers?module=HP11_headline_stack

He's not starting, but we might see some redzone packages. I hope they let him throw when he comes in though, McD didn't let him throw until our KC victory last year.

Good news. Maybe Fox has seen the light.

OABB
10-02-2011, 01:26 PM
But Rogers has 6 td's... do you still support Orton? or will the blame for the defense be Ortons fault too?

If ortin turns it over multiple times, why wouldnt I? hes already lost us two games with to's. Best. Chance. To. Win.

bronco militia
10-02-2011, 02:59 PM
nice thread

razorwire77
10-02-2011, 03:03 PM
So it's 21-3. Here's what's going to happen. GB scores again to go up 28-3, and Kyle will be throwing against a soft cover 3. The media pundits will look at the box score. It will be something like 26-47 318 yards 2 garbage TD's 2 momentum crushing INT's and they will scream "SEE SEE, Kyle Orton is teh good."

Agamemnon
10-02-2011, 03:04 PM
Gotta love when threads go down flames like this. Hilarious!

broncolife
10-02-2011, 03:06 PM
If Orton throws 3 TDs in this game, it's his job all season without complaint from me.

thrown to bronco players or GB players?

Blart
10-02-2011, 03:08 PM
The comeback begins.

Agamemnon
10-02-2011, 03:10 PM
The comeback begins.

Hilarious!

bronco militia
10-02-2011, 03:25 PM
OMG

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47242000/jpg/_47242706_dpp_0006.jpg

v2micca
10-02-2011, 03:25 PM
Hey Taco, there are your three touchdown passes from Orton. One was too the other team. But that is still 3.

houghtam
10-02-2011, 04:15 PM
So it's 21-3. Here's what's going to happen. GB scores again to go up 28-3, and Kyle will be throwing against a soft cover 3. The media pundits will look at the box score. It will be something like 26-47 318 yards 2 garbage TD's 2 momentum crushing INT's and they will scream "SEE SEE, Kyle Orton is teh good."

What? That would NEVER happen. Hilarious!

Wait...

eddie mac
10-02-2011, 04:25 PM
10 completions in a row, a wee bit like our defense allowed Rodgers. Supposedly they've improved from last year.

razorwire77
10-02-2011, 04:26 PM
What? That would NEVER happen. Hilarious!

Wait...

LOL

Simms isn't even waiting until the end of the game to start it!

broncocalijohn
10-02-2011, 04:49 PM
Henne got hurt. Do they now want Orton or is matt moore better?

DivineBronco
10-02-2011, 05:09 PM
this is the fascinating thing he and his wife and new daughter could be in sunny miami right now....but Orton put the breaks on that I wonder if he would take that back now...........

Taco John
10-02-2011, 05:11 PM
Welp... I can't say I feel too good about those 3 TDs given the 3 INTs that went along with it. But that said, I didn't think Orton had 3 TDs in him against Green Bay.

Agamemnon
10-02-2011, 05:11 PM
So much for that. Garbage time stats, but even then he couldn't keep himself from sucking.

SoCalBronco
10-02-2011, 05:12 PM
OP is lucky that Orton didn't get a 4th interception on that quick out that the flat defender dropped.

Bronx33
10-02-2011, 05:12 PM
Blart you just made the list..

Agamemnon
10-02-2011, 05:12 PM
Welp... I can't say I feel too good about those 3 TDs given the 3 INTs that went along with it. But that said, I didn't think Orton had 3 TDs in him against Green Bay.

Green Bay's pass defense is clearly ****. Not sure why you would think Orton couldn't get 3 TDs against them, especially with all that garbage time.

MplsBronco
10-02-2011, 05:14 PM
Green Bay's pass defense is clearly ****. Not sure why you would think Orton couldn't get 3 TDs against them, especially with all that garbage time.

This. And Orton couldn't yet again muster more than 20 points when the game counts. And his pick 6 set the tone for the game.

go_broncos
10-02-2011, 05:15 PM
Orton sucks..

Kaylore
10-02-2011, 05:15 PM
Whatever. He completed 75% of his passes. Severely underthrowing guys on flea flicker passes = Awesome.

fontaine
10-02-2011, 05:16 PM
Green Bay's pass defense is clearly ****. Not sure why you would think Orton couldn't get 3 TDs against them, especially with all that garbage time.

Especially when they went into prevent D and started playing softer coverages.

Orton had his typical gutless, pile of crap game today. A couple of decent scoring drives surrounded by mediocrity or garbage.

TheReverend
10-02-2011, 05:17 PM
OP is lucky that Orton didn't get a 4th interception on that quick out that the flat defender dropped.

AJ, yeah, easy play.

Pendejo
10-02-2011, 05:18 PM
Whatever. He completed 75% of his passes. Severely underthrowing guys on flea flicker passes = Awesome.

Week in and week out he leaves tons of plays on the field.

fontaine
10-02-2011, 05:21 PM
There were at least two ints that hit DBs right in the hands that they just dropped also.

Orton was lucky it was only 3.

Ranger24
10-02-2011, 05:33 PM
Henne got hurt. Do they now want Orton or is matt moore better?

HAHAHA Do they want Orton?!?!?! HAHAHAHA..... NO

vonqkilla
10-02-2011, 05:35 PM
Woodson floats around, but I think lloyd will be the X at left wr, and thats tramonwilliams side. Decker will probably get some slot work, but I bet woodson floats to him...

And Bam, pick 6.

vonqkilla
10-02-2011, 05:41 PM
Von Miller 2 sacks !!!!

And I thought Franklin did great vs Clay matthews. Also, lloyd and decker were outstanding.

Every db sucked.

Orton`s pick six was ball game though. Yeah we came back thanks to Vons sack converted into 7 by orton to decker, but it was over with pack tds on each side of the half.

Gort
10-02-2011, 06:56 PM
kyle orton's QB rating on the day = 87.1
aaron rodgers' QB rating on the day = 134.5

really, that's the difference between their offense and our offense in a nutshell.

the Broncos D had a tough day. there is no way are going to win giving up 49 points to anybody, so it's hard to say that this is Orton's fault. but in a game like this, it's hard not to have QB envy for what GB has running their offense compared to what we have.

TheReverend
10-02-2011, 07:03 PM
kyle orton's QB rating on the day = 87.1
aaron rodgers' QB rating on the day = 134.5

really, that's the difference between their offense and our offense in a nutshell.

the Broncos D had a tough day. there is no way are going to win giving up 49 points to anybody, so it's hard to say that this is Orton's fault. but in a game like this, it's hard not to have QB envy for what GB has running their offense compared to what we have.

Rogers accounted for 450 yards and 6 TDs through just 3 quarters...

OBF1
10-02-2011, 08:18 PM
The Broncos are 0-4-1 against the Packers in Wisconsin.
The Broncos are 13 point underdogs according to Vegas.

ESPN's fantasy rating for Orton is as follows,
(9 is really bad, for you non-nerds)


And ya know what? They're wrong.


Green Bay's secondary has been sliced to shreds with huge 300+ yard games by Brees, Cutler, and a rookie QB.

Everybody thinks Green Bay will win, and that confidence can be deceptive. The pack nearly let Carolina beat them because confidence got to their heads, and I promise you they're not taking Denver seriously.

As for the Broncos record, we're a deceptive 1-2, as we've had all close games against much improved teams.

Another reason Orton will be great? This isn't another game where we see McGahee get the ball at the goal line, as running is not an option vs the Pack. This game falls completely on Orton's shoulders, and he's about to prove why he's a starting QB in the NFL.

Tebow fans and pessimists take note. Orton is about to show you what a real QB looks like.

I'm putting money on this game. I was going to take the points, but hell, I'm making this thread so I'm going all in for the Broncos win. Mark it.

EDIT:

A great point made by strafen,

Blart.... meet ignore, Ignore, meet blart

Gort
10-02-2011, 08:30 PM
Rogers accounted for 450 yards and 6 TDs through just 3 quarters...

yep! he put on a clinic. happens a couple of times every year to the Broncos for the past few years. without fail.

also, in the interest of accuracy, our D only gave up 42 points today. orton gave up the other 7. still, i don't expect this team to win any game where they give up 42 or 49 points, no matter who is at QB. although it'd be nice to find a QB who doesn't enjoy throwing INTs at inopportune times.

vonqkilla
10-02-2011, 08:47 PM
yep! he put on a clinic. happens a couple of times every year to the Broncos for the past few years. without fail.

also, in the interest of accuracy, our D only gave up 42 points today. orton gave up the other 7. still, i don't expect this team to win any game where they give up 42 or 49 points, no matter who is at QB. although it'd be nice to find a QB who doesn't enjoy throwing INTs at inopportune times.

Then they come back with onside kick, and giving them that put it at 21-3. If he gets a fg that drive its 7 -6 & a different game entirely. As I projected woodson would float to the slot were he is free to use his ball skills, atheticism, and awareness. His preparation got him that 6.

Oh yeah, that and Orton is a stupid ass who thinks he's gods gift to qb because he beat out Tebow and Quinn in flag football.

Maximus
10-02-2011, 08:55 PM
If Orton throws 3 TDs in this game, it's his job all season without complaint from me.

Well Taco, I asked you a question on this thread before the game... you never got a chance to answer...

But Rogers has 6 td's... do you still support Orton? or will the blame for the defense be Ortons fault too?

OABB
10-02-2011, 08:59 PM
Well Taco, I asked you a question on this thread before the game... you never got a chance to answer...

8 turnovers in four games. ...you really would rather face tebow?

Gort
10-02-2011, 11:16 PM
8 turnovers in four games. ...you really would rather face tebow?

now you did it. she's only got 2 brain cells. you can't have 1 brain cell wanting Tebow and 1 brain cell wanting Orton... the result will be like that computer in the old Star Trek series when Kirk asked it to explain "love". the computer replied "does not compute!" and started smoking. i bet maximus is wandering around her crack den now saying "does not compute!" with smoke coming out of her ears.

Perry1977
10-02-2011, 11:52 PM
We're down 28-3 at half after Orton throws 3 ints. Green Bay starts playing prevent and Orton racks up garbage time stats, finishes with 350+ yards 2 tds and 3 ints. We lose 49-20, but ESPN will praise Orton's stats.

Not bad.

Maximus
10-03-2011, 12:26 AM
8 turnovers in four games. ...you really would rather face tebow?

Yup! Wimbley and Lamar Houston would have Orlando Franklin for lunch and kill teblow! Teblow would probably go into kidney failure from all the hits in the back! Whiplash!!!!

Shananahan
10-03-2011, 12:49 AM
it'd be nice to find a QB who doesn't enjoy throwing INTs at inopportune times.
You had to love how disappointed Rodgers was by the tipped ball of his that turned into an interception. It looked like his day might have been ruined for a brief moment there.

Orton throws a pick six, or horribly underthrows a wide-open receiver for an interception instead of a touchdown, and it's ho-hum off to the sidelines again.

vonqkilla
10-03-2011, 09:09 AM
I got the pack 45 - 16 & apologists blame the defense. Kyle gets a pass because ” our wrs are hurt, champ didnt play, the def sucked, blaaaa blaa blaa”

Totally predictable outcome. On the field, and the aftermath.

errand
10-03-2011, 09:48 AM
kyle orton's QB rating on the day = 87.1
aaron rodgers' QB rating on the day = 134.5

really, that's the difference between their offense and our offense in a nutshell.

the Broncos D had a tough day. there is no way are going to win giving up 49 points to anybody, so it's hard to say that this is Orton's fault. but in a game like this, it's hard not to have QB envy for what GB has running their offense compared to what we have.

There will some on here will always find away........and he does have some culpability with the pick 6 and end zone INT where he under threw Lloyd. But you're not gonna stop a QB of Rodger's caliber by letting his WR's run wild throughout your secondary....

we ain't gonna beat anyone giving up 4 passing TD's....and 2 rushing TD's....while we throw a pick 6 and fumble inside the 5-10 yard line....and underthrow an open WR at the goal line.

The good news is we generated enough offense to win most games...

McGahee ran well enough for us to win most games.....

Our DE's generated a pretty good pass rush good enough to win most games....and the game was closer than most would think if not for us shooting ourselves in the foot with turnovers....we're talking an extra 14 for us (fumble and int) and 7 fewer for them (pick6).

So we lost a game we were suppose to lose according to all the experts.....bottom line is if we play defensively like we did against Titans and offensively like we did vs Pack....then we'd be one tough team to beat.

errand
10-03-2011, 09:59 AM
And Bam, pick 6.

That was not only a product of Orton being a game manager, but the Packer's D staff doing their homework. they noticed that the Broncos would go to that well alot in search of converting a 3rd down....

We had better success when we started going farther past the sticks and the OL doing a better job of pass protection...Orton completed like 10 in a row.

Take away the two ints and fumble and your talking a final of like 42-37....still a loss, but we've been hearing all season long about how great 5 point losses were when our 3rd stringer started a game or three last year.

football is a game of errors...whoever makes the fewest errors usually wins the game - Paul Brown

Dedhed
10-03-2011, 10:07 AM
That was not only a product of Orton being a game manager, but the Packer's D staff doing their homework. they noticed that the Broncos would go to that well alot in search of converting a 3rd down....And of course our quarterback, noted for being smart with the football, telegraphing his throw, making a terrible decision and basically ending the game before it ever got started.

We had better success when we started going farther past the sticks and the OL doing a better job of pass protection...Orton completed like 10 in a row.Exactly like he always odes. comes up big when the defense plays soft after getting a comfortable lead. Yay Orton!

Take away the two ints and fumble and your talking a final of like 42-37....still a loss, but we've been hearing all season long about how great 5 point losses were when our 3rd stringer started a game or three last year.This is my favorite. "if you take away all the terrible things Orton did, he actually wasn't that bad."

football is a game of errors...whoever makes the fewest errors usually wins the game - Paul BrownIt's also a game of overcoming errors. Orton doesn't have that ability.

ColoradoDarin
10-03-2011, 12:52 PM
Not bad.

Thanks, I wasn't too far off.

Mat'hir Uth Gan
10-03-2011, 01:22 PM
Yup! Wimbley and Lamar Houston would have Orlando Franklin for lunch and kill teblow! Teblow would probably go into kidney failure from all the hits in the back! Whiplash!!!!


If you were paying attention to the announcers that cover the Bronco games the last few weeks, you would know that Orlando Franklin always plays for the other team and that Von Miller beats him for a sack every game.

vonqkilla
10-03-2011, 01:47 PM
I think Orton is going to be released next week.

vonqkilla
10-03-2011, 01:47 PM
I think Orton is going to be released next week.

Dedhed
10-03-2011, 01:51 PM
Welp... I can't say I feel too good about those 3 TDs given the 3 INTs that went along with it. But that said, I didn't think Orton had 3 TDs in him against Green Bay.

Yeah, it's hard to imagine the league's second worst passing defense getting exposed.

TheReverend
10-03-2011, 01:53 PM
I think Orton is going to be released next week.

Makes no sense. His salary is already guaranteed for the season now.

Dedhed
10-03-2011, 01:55 PM
I think Orton is going to be released next week.

I think Orton is going to get traded to Miami next week, and then Tebow is going to beat the Orton-led Phins 49-14.

Taco John
10-03-2011, 02:08 PM
Well Taco, I asked you a question on this thread before the game... you never got a chance to answer...

I didn't think Orton had three TDs in him. He got it, but I didn't feel at the end of them like I thought I would feel given his shortarming of so many throws, and of course, the 3 INTs. When I originally made the statement, I envisioned 3 TDs being the best game Orton could possibly put up, and a scenario where that would keep us in striking distance of the win. The 3 INTs, however, completely derailed that. The defense definitely was a disappointment, but I didn't expect that they'd be able to keep Green Bay off the scoreboard. I thought they would keep it close. Hard to keep it close, however, when your quarterback is throwing pick 6's and giving them great field position with interceptions.

I think anyone can see that this team has problems on both sides of the ball. Likewise, I think anyone can see that uninspired play at quarterback is one of them. I can't speak for anyone else, but when I watch the guy, I see someone who hates playing for the Denver Broncos. He's sick of it. He knows he's going nowhere with this team and that there is no commitment here for him. He knows that there's no way for him to win over the fans, or the front office. Give the guy credit, he just goes out there and goes about his business - but to me, it looks like he just hates it and can't wait to get this year over with and move on.

vonqkilla
10-03-2011, 02:34 PM
Makes no sense. His salary is already guaranteed for the season now.

It makes sense to clear the way and lockerroom for 15. Also, if another team picks him up, they take his contract. Winning

Que
10-03-2011, 02:41 PM
It makes sense to clear the way and lockerroom for 15. Also, if another team picks him up, they take his contract. Winning

Orton would get picked up for sure. Dunno if you can get a trade for him but no way does Orton get to the end of the waiver wire.

Que
10-03-2011, 02:44 PM
Orton would get picked up for sure. Dunno if you can get a trade for him but no way does Orton get to the end of the waiver wire.

Then again, this is like discussing whether I will go condom or bareback when I tag the chick who played Cylon #6. Pointless cause it isn't going to happen.

WABronco
10-03-2011, 02:46 PM
If you were paying attention to the announcers that cover the Bronco games the last few weeks, you would know that Orlando Franklin always plays for the other team and that Von Miller beats him for a sack every game.

The **** was that? Phil Simms step yo' game up, son.