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smoke4815162342
09-29-2011, 01:11 PM
Just a year ago Brandon Lloyd lead the league in receiving yards, went to his first Pro Bowl, but nowadays Brandon Lloyd is feeling a tad under-utilized.

At the moment Lloyd has made it known that he wants to be more involved in the Broncos passing attack. Lloyd has never been one to not speak his mind as he’s already spoke with QB Kyle Orton this week. Lloyd said that he was “going to stand up for myself” on the subject when it comes to the team’s offensive staff.
Last week against the Titans Lloyd was targeted seven times, he hauled in four catches for 38 yards. He believes even though teams may roll safety coverage his way, offensive coordinator Mike McCoy must find ways to get him the ball.


Quote:
“We know it’s coming,” Lloyd said, adding that if the Broncos want to feed him the ball they’ll design plays that work against those coverages. “And if they don’t, they won’t.”
Orton knows Lloyd is getting most of the defenses attention and is choosing to look for the open man versus forcing the issue and looking for the deep ball. Perhaps it’s the style of offense that John Fox is going with that could be slowing down their past offensive schemes. When the Broncos have had long, clock eating drives through the first couple of weeks its hard to be explosive offensively.

It looks like Orton may have to take some chances on some big plays in the next following weeks in order to get the Broncos over the hump.


http://skinnypost.com/whats-the-skinny/brandon-lloyd-is-feeling-under-utilized/

TheReverend
09-29-2011, 01:14 PM
NOW he's getting double coverage and it's back to the Brandon Lloyd from the aughts.

Color me stunned.

Eldorado
09-29-2011, 01:15 PM
Tick..tick..BOOM!

supermanhr9
09-29-2011, 01:16 PM
hahahaha.... Orton's biggest supporter is now unhappy. This will be a great season no doubt about it.

HILife
09-29-2011, 01:16 PM
Thrown to 7 times is not enough?

crush17
09-29-2011, 01:17 PM
Demarius Thomas, Eric Decker, Eddie Royal.

Keep complaining and opening your dumb ass mouth, Brandon.

TheDave
09-29-2011, 01:19 PM
In fairness McD's entire philosophy revolved around chucking it deep to Lloyd...

This is probably just a form of seperation anxiety coming out.

smoke4815162342
09-29-2011, 01:20 PM
Everyone including Lloyd should have expected this, Orton was not gonna be anywhere near as productive without McDaniels passing schemes

TheDave
09-29-2011, 01:21 PM
so how much does he get from the Rams next year...

Ray Finkle
09-29-2011, 01:24 PM
I'd rather roll with Decker, DT, Royal, et al and trade him for value.

fontaine
09-29-2011, 01:27 PM
Lloyd is right. He's our best weapon in the passing game and Orton really needs to do a better job of trying to get him the ball on intermediate routes instead of playing it safe and just trying to nickel and dime.

Stagger Lee
09-29-2011, 01:29 PM
Lloyd is right. He's our best weapon in the passing game and Orton really needs to do a better job of trying to get him the ball on intermediate routes instead of playing it safe and just trying to nickel and dime.

Orton needs to do a better job of pretty much everything.

schaaf
09-29-2011, 01:39 PM
OP... how the **** did you get your name

bronco militia
09-29-2011, 01:42 PM
Lloyd is missing Ortons garbage time make up stats....

TonyR
09-29-2011, 01:42 PM
NOW he's getting double coverage and it's back to the Brandon Lloyd from the aughts.


But was he getting doubled back then? And isn't his being doubled a good think in some respects? That means the defense is expending resources on stopping him which theoretically opens up other options. That leaves it up to the coaches and QB to exploit the opportunities created and force the opponent to leave Lloyd singled more often.

Agamemnon
09-29-2011, 01:42 PM
Lloyd feels under-utilized? Noted and filed under "Things I don't give a **** about".

TonyR
09-29-2011, 01:44 PM
OP... how the **** did you get your name

One would assume it's from the TV series Lost.

Smiling Assassin27
09-29-2011, 01:49 PM
Under utilized is not the same as under-producing, Brandon.

Get open and you'll get the ball, putz.

_Oro_
09-29-2011, 01:50 PM
Is there any way to put Brandon Lloyd on ignore?

WolfpackGuy
09-29-2011, 01:51 PM
Euphemism for "underpaid"...

TheReverend
09-29-2011, 01:52 PM
so how much does he get from the Rams next year...

Nada. At this rate Josh won't be employed there.

I'd rather roll with Decker, DT, Royal, et al and trade him for value.

In a contract year? Unlikely.

Tag and trade? Even more unlikely.

Teams know his career of poor effort and play are the norm and that LAST SEASON was the outlier.

Rabb
09-29-2011, 01:54 PM
Lloyd is missing Ortons garbage time make up stats....

he will be happy with the opportunity over the next couple weeks then

you know, since that sophisticated running game seems to be in full force

TheReverend
09-29-2011, 01:56 PM
But was he getting doubled back then? And isn't his being doubled a good think in some respects? That means the defense is expending resources on stopping him which theoretically opens up other options. That leaves it up to the coaches and QB to exploit the opportunities created and force the opponent to leave Lloyd singled more often.

Khan swears he saw people hanging all over him in a KC game last year, but I genuinely can't remember a single time when Lloyd drew rolled coverage until this season. I'm not claiming I'm right, but I usually just watch secondary play so if it happened with any significant consistency I definitely would've seen.

And yes it's a good thing... especially for Decker so far... unless you're in a contract year and have both publicly and privately lobbied for your queer bf to be throwing you the ball 24/7.

TheDave
09-29-2011, 01:57 PM
Nada. At this rate Josh won't be employed there.


Damn... did they already figure him out?

Gort
09-29-2011, 01:59 PM
is Lloyd really bitching to the media about not getting the ball enough? seriously??

i've only got one thing to say to Lloyd: Keyshawn says "hello".

TheReverend
09-29-2011, 02:00 PM
Damn... did they already figure him out?

lol that guy is like AIDs to every young, talented team on the rise that he touches

Play2win
09-29-2011, 02:04 PM
Get Brandon Lloyd the ball...

It really does give us our best chance to win... :dummy:

oubronco
09-29-2011, 02:06 PM
I'd rather roll with Decker, DT, Royal, et al and trade him for value.

That would be a disaster 2 of the 3 can't stay healthy

TheReverend
09-29-2011, 02:06 PM
is Lloyd really b****ing to the media about not getting the ball enough? seriously??

i've only got one thing to say to Lloyd: Keyshawn says "hello".

The guy never cared about SF when they gave him a shot. Didn't bother to study game film or act like a teammate.

The guy never cared about Washington... he signed on to the highest bidder when SF let him seek a trade. Hell, he couldn't even show Gibbs enough respect to show up to meetings.

The guy never cared about Chicago even though they were the ONLY ones willing to give him another shot... malingering like a little princess (not saying he did the same thing week 2, buttttttttttttttttttttttt)

...So what makes people think he cares about Denver?

In b4 "BUT HE LEAD THE LEAGUE IN RECEIVINGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!"

Lestat
09-29-2011, 02:12 PM
he's the best WR and offensive weapon the Broncos have. unfortunately every team knows that and would rather someone else burn them. then there's Orton....

bronclvr
09-29-2011, 02:26 PM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBBeKPb7--n3wRqUN1p28s3r2302d9yweKj3ul9Q_Z-eNxZ1qN_A

"Winners always want the ball when the game's on the line."

DenverBroncosJM
09-29-2011, 02:29 PM
This is going to be epic on Sunday when KO forces the ball to Lloyd.

Kaylore
09-29-2011, 02:38 PM
NOW he's getting double coverage and it's back to the Brandon Lloyd from the aughts.

Well at least you're admitting he draws double coverage.

DomCasual
09-29-2011, 02:39 PM
I bet Tebow would be getting him the ball.

You know the story about the fishes and the loaves, right?

strafen
09-29-2011, 02:39 PM
OP... how the **** did you get your name
Google ----> 4815162342

Agamemnon
09-29-2011, 02:41 PM
Well at least you're admitting he draws double coverage.

With all the two receiver sets we run now, I'm pretty sure our #1 receiver is going to draw double coverage no matter who he is.

Traveler
09-29-2011, 02:46 PM
Just a year ago Brandon Lloyd lead the league in receiving yards, went to his first Pro Bowl, but nowadays Brandon Lloyd is feeling a tad under-utilized.

At the moment Lloyd has made it known that he wants to be more involved in the Broncos passing attack. Lloyd has never been one to not speak his mind as he’s already spoke with QB Kyle Orton this week. Lloyd said that he was “going to stand up for myself” on the subject when it comes to the team’s offensive staff.
Last week against the Titans Lloyd was targeted seven times, he hauled in four catches for 38 yards. He believes even though teams may roll safety coverage his way, offensive coordinator Mike McCoy must find ways to get him the ball.


Quote:
“We know it’s coming,” Lloyd said, adding that if the Broncos want to feed him the ball they’ll design plays that work against those coverages. “And if they don’t, they won’t.”
Orton knows Lloyd is getting most of the defenses attention and is choosing to look for the open man versus forcing the issue and looking for the deep ball. Perhaps it’s the style of offense that John Fox is going with that could be slowing down their past offensive schemes. When the Broncos have had long, clock eating drives through the first couple of weeks its hard to be explosive offensively.

It looks like Orton may have to take some chances on some big plays in the next following weeks in order to get the Broncos over the hump.


http://skinnypost.com/whats-the-skinny/brandon-lloyd-is-feeling-under-utilized/

And so it begins....

fontaine
09-29-2011, 03:14 PM
I have no problem with Lloyd wanting the ball more, wanting to make an impact.

Ofcourse he has selfish reasons for wanting it that way but with the run game/OL improving we need to utilize Lloyd more to stretch defenses, open up the run game and make it easier for guys like Decker/Thomas/Royal.

I wish we had more players that want the ball, especially in pressure situations, in the 4th quarter etc rather than players who do everything to avoid those situations like Orton.

TheReverend
09-29-2011, 03:20 PM
Well at least you're admitting he draws double coverage.

I very specifically capitalized "NOW" for a reason, sir.

extralife
09-29-2011, 03:34 PM
I just assumed he wasn't getting the looks because he wasn't quite healthy. At least that was my rationale for the team never attempting a pass over ten yards last week, despite how cramped the field was.

Powderaddict
09-29-2011, 03:59 PM
The Rams could really use a WR, I doubt he gets the contract in Denver he is looking for.
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I wonder what the Rams would be willing to provide in exchange for his services. I enjoyed watching Lloyd last year, but every once in awhile he says things that really makes me wonder if he’s a guy you want to commit a large sum of money to. I know Denver is hurting at WR right now, but it might be worth it long term to get decent value for him.
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~Crash~
09-29-2011, 04:07 PM
Lloyd is right. He's our best weapon in the passing game and Orton really needs to do a better job of trying to get him the ball on intermediate routes instead of playing it safe and just trying to nickel and dime.

yep

Mr. Elway
09-29-2011, 04:10 PM
What do you think a team like STL would be willing to offer?

The first overall pick in the 2012 draft?

maven
09-29-2011, 04:19 PM
I gotta get paid!!!!! Contract year, he wants the ball every play.

maven
09-29-2011, 04:20 PM
Demarius Thomas, Eric Decker, Eddie Royal.

Keep complaining and opening your dumb ass mouth, Brandon.

Last I check, those guys suck.

broncocalijohn
09-29-2011, 04:23 PM
I'd rather roll with Decker, DT, Royal, et al and trade him for value.

So you planning then to have Willis and Moreno take the place of injured Royal and DT? Give me a break. He is on the cheap for the production he gives us. Until he becomes a Chad Johnson or Randy Moss type attitude, he stays put.

rugbythug
09-29-2011, 04:32 PM
So you planning then to have Willis and Moreno take the place of injured Royal and DT? Give me a break. He is on the cheap for the production he gives us. Until he becomes a Chad Johnson or Randy Moss type attitude, he stays put.

As long as we are going to loose why not loose huge?

Give me what we got for the Hawaiian and we are gold

broncocalijohn
09-29-2011, 04:35 PM
As long as we are going to loose why not loose huge?

Give me what we got for the Hawaiian and we are gold

Hawaiian? You mean Ashley Lelie? I don't think "loosing" huge is a money maker in the long run. He is our only reliable asset in the skilled position and we are one game out. He isn't going anywhere.

rugbythug
09-29-2011, 04:38 PM
Hawaiian? You mean Ashley Lelie? I don't think "loosing" huge is a money maker in the long run. He is our only reliable asset in the skilled position and we are one game out. He isn't going anywhere.

He is not young, Good old guys on a young team need to be traded for a future asset. This includes Champ. We are where we are. We won't be making the playoffs better to rebuild and start again next year.

Archer81
09-29-2011, 04:40 PM
Long year getting longer...


:Broncos:

ICON
09-29-2011, 04:45 PM
Long year getting longer...


:Broncos:This

Powderaddict
09-29-2011, 05:47 PM
The first overall pick in the 2012 draft?

McDaniels would have to be promoted from OC, then that comment goes from snarky to likely :D

Agamemnon
09-29-2011, 06:40 PM
I just assumed he wasn't getting the looks because he wasn't quite healthy. At least that was my rationale for the team never attempting a pass over ten yards last week, despite how cramped the field was.

No that was just McCoy being a retard.

KipCorrington25
09-29-2011, 07:23 PM
He's already missed time with injury, kind of ballsy to start complaining. Doctor, the cancer has reoccured!

montrose
09-29-2011, 08:19 PM
But... the veterans will revolt if they play Tebow...

rbackfactory80
09-29-2011, 08:50 PM
so how much does he get from the Rams next year...

HAHA

Scary thought!!! Is McD trying to reassemble the 2010 Broncos? Hilarious!

lostknight
09-29-2011, 09:00 PM
This was almost inevitable. Brandon Lloyd is a primary receiver who is getting double teamed, and sometimes with two over the top. That results in Decker getting opportunities. There is something about a elite receiver that allows them still to come down with ball in serious coverage. But it takes a commitment to risk taking.

Orton is in his last year of a contract, and needs a new team. He needs to show that he has a great TD:INT ration. That means a commitment to not taking risks.

This is prety much inevitable.

Dedhed
09-29-2011, 09:38 PM
Lloyd is right. He's our best weapon in the passing game and Orton really needs to do a better job of trying to get him the ball on intermediate routes instead of playing it safe and just trying to nickel and dime.

The problem with that is that you can't do it. It was a bail out strategy that happened to work last year, and went a long way towards convincing people that Orton was a real quarterback.

In reality he simply threw it high if Lloyd was singled, and checked it down short of a first down if he was doubled up on.

Agamemnon
09-29-2011, 09:41 PM
The problem with that is that you can't do it. It was a bail out strategy that happened to work last year, and went a long way towards convincing people that Orton was a real quarterback.

In reality he simply threw it high if Lloyd was singled, and checked it down short of a first down if he was doubled up on.

And it worked primarily because we had so many receivers on the field every play. It's a lot easier to double up on a guy coming out of a two receiver set.

True star receivers and star QBs beat those double teams. Lloyd and Orton? Hilarious!

Dedhed
09-29-2011, 10:07 PM
And it worked primarily because we had so many receivers on the field every play. It's a lot easier to double up on a guy coming out of a two receiver set.

It also worked because opposing coaches know that that one trick pony isn't effective. It worked exactly 3 out of 13 times last year. Every NFL coach will happily allow any tactic that gets them beat 23% of the time.

wolf754life
09-29-2011, 10:07 PM
**** this guy

broncosteven
09-29-2011, 11:14 PM
Lloyd better watch out for Micky D's wrappers so he can stay healthy enough to hold out in 2012.

Popps
09-29-2011, 11:17 PM
Wait, a wide receiver feels underutilized?

Someone sticky this thread. This has to be the first time this has ever happened.

The Joker
09-29-2011, 11:36 PM
The funny thing about Lloyd supposedly backing Orton in the QB mess is that he'd get a lot more opportunities to make some big plays with Tebow starting.

With McDaniels gone the pass offense has taken a big step backward, basically now we're in a scenario where if the O-Line does a nice job protecting and we call a good play Orton might complete a pass for a short/medium gain. He's clearly afraid to take a shot downfield, and Lloyd's best asset IMO is adjusting to a deep ball and coming down with it.

Tebow's best asset in terms of throwing is his deep ball, you can guarantee he'd put it down there a few times a game and give Lloyd the chance to earn his big payday next year.

Not like his numbers were bad when Tebow came in last year either.

14 catches for 263 yards and 2 TD's in 3 games.

As for him complaining about not getting enough targets, it's a non-story really IMO. I think our attempts to keep Lloyd beyond this season may be directly tied to whether Demaryius Thomas can get healthy and stay that way for the rest of the season. If he can do that and look somewhat decent, Lloyd will be gone IMO. If Thomas gets injured again they may consider trying to keep Lloyd... but even then I doubt they'll offer him a wonderful deal.

Dr. Broncenstein
09-29-2011, 11:49 PM
He's no longer hot? He's no longer on fye-yah?

SoCalBronco
09-29-2011, 11:54 PM
I actually don't mind this. The combination of everything that's happening is clearly hurting his market value for next year. It's simply unreasonable to expect someone who has never had a big contract and who has his eyes on it just sit there and accept the loss of tons of potential dollars without saying anything. That's just not how the world works and its not a realistic perspective. He's literally suffering millions in damages due to a combination of conservative offensive calls, injuries (including his own), poor OL play (pass pro), poor QB play (altho he has never blamed this) etc.

The Joker
09-29-2011, 11:54 PM
We can see him now!!

Dr. Broncenstein
09-29-2011, 11:57 PM
I miss the days when Bronco receivers were run blockers first.

maven
09-30-2011, 02:22 AM
Lloyd better watch out for Micky D's wrappers so he can stay healthy enough to hold out in 2012.

He's an unrestricted free agent, and good luck getting the franchise tag.

TonyR
09-30-2011, 07:28 AM
Long year getting longer...


The fog is getting thicker, and Leon is getting larger.

But really, people, Lloyd didn't say anything controversial here that I can see. If I missed something please point it out.

Aftermath
09-30-2011, 07:42 AM
I cant wait until that scumbag is off our team. He fits the stereotype to a T.

bronclvr
09-30-2011, 07:47 AM
I cant wait until that scumbag is off our team. He fits the stereotype to a T.

Are you talking about Fox or Orton?

WolfpackGuy
09-30-2011, 07:58 AM
I miss the days when Bronco receivers were run blockers first.

What's the use?

They don't have anyone that can get past the first level anyway.

DBroncos4life
09-30-2011, 09:07 AM
The fog is getting thicker, and Leon is getting larger.

But really, people, Lloyd didn't say anything controversial here that I can see. If I missed something please point it out.

Well it's about that time in Lloyd's Bronco career that the fans turn on him.

bendog
09-30-2011, 09:25 AM
I miss the days when Bronco receivers were run blockers first.

That's going to change. It will take awhile to turn the roster over, but I can't see Fox not doing that.

Dedhed
09-30-2011, 10:36 AM
I love that Lindsay Jones turns those comments into Lloyd being a patient team first guy.

jhns
09-30-2011, 10:37 AM
I feel under utilized.

rmsanger
09-30-2011, 10:56 AM
I feel that his mom is underutilized, gonna go pay her a visit!

Play2win
09-30-2011, 11:01 AM
Rightly so.

Lloyd is the one guy on the offensive side of the ball that can take over a game. Give him the ball, and he'll win games for us.

Hulamau
09-30-2011, 11:06 AM
Lloyd is right. He's our best weapon in the passing game and Orton really needs to do a better job of trying to get him the ball on intermediate routes instead of playing it safe and just trying to nickel and dime.

The problem with nickle and dimeing it in this offense with Orton back there is the likelihood of one or more guys screwing up and killing long drives is just too great. Not to mention putting everyone to sleep. Its okay for some drives but not all of them...got to mix it up and go deep occasionally

jhns
09-30-2011, 11:34 AM
Rightly so.

Lloyd is the one guy on the offensive side of the ball that can take over a game. Give him the ball, and he'll win games for us.

Then what happened last season when he was the focus of the offense?

Dedhed
09-30-2011, 11:37 AM
Rightly so.

Lloyd is the one guy on the offensive side of the ball that can take over a game. Give him the ball, and he'll win games for us.

Like last year?

WolfpackGuy
09-30-2011, 11:43 AM
Rightly so.

Lloyd is the one guy on the offensive side of the ball that can take over a game. Give him the ball, and he'll win FANTASY games for us.

Fixed.

vancejohnson82
09-30-2011, 11:48 AM
Then what happened last season when he was the focus of the offense?

exactly....honestly the only thing I have enjoyed about the offense this year is the way the ball is being spread around...nice to see guys like Decker getting involved

broncocalijohn
09-30-2011, 11:55 AM
I feel under utilized.

I think what you hear @ night is not ubder utikzied but under performing.

HorseHead
09-30-2011, 12:12 PM
guy has one great year, all of a sudden he's Jerry Rice...c-ya...

bowtown
09-30-2011, 12:18 PM
Can someone please point me directly to the thing he said that is causing this huge hatefest?

extralife
09-30-2011, 12:24 PM
Then what happened last season when he was the focus of the offense?

Well, he put up the second best season ever by a Broncos receiver. There was that.

But I forgot, football is an individual sport when it is convenient (we lost a lot of games, he must suck!) and a team sport when that aligns with the message (what a selfish player! lynch him for expressing frustration!)

This thread is embarrassing.

jhns
09-30-2011, 12:27 PM
Well, he put up the second best season ever by a Broncos receiver. There was that.

But I forgot, football is an individual sport when it is convenient (we lost a lot of games, he must suck!) and a team sport when that aligns with the message (what a selfish player! lynch him for expressing frustration!)

This thread is embarrassing.

I said he sucks? I don't think you read what I was responding to...

Jetmeck
09-30-2011, 12:40 PM
Just don't think Lloyd is getting open this year. As long as it opens up other receivers so be it. Hope we get DT back soon though Decker has been a pleasant surprise.

primetime714
09-30-2011, 12:45 PM
Say what you want Lloyd is the best playmaker the team has. They should design more plays to get him the ball. Everyone knows Kyle is at his best when he can look Lloyd's way as often as possible.

The team also absolutely has to stretch the field more and Lloyd is without question the best option to do that. Lob it up there and he'll make a play on it.

That said pretty selfish to come out and say that especially when your intentions are transparent (contract year). Still I have no problems with players complaining about the offense cause they've been terrible. And if nothing else it piles blame on Orton and increases Tebow chatter.

TheReverend
09-30-2011, 01:13 PM
Can someone please point me directly to the thing he said that is causing this huge hatefest?

Don't worry bro. He helped out on the scout team in 09 so he's swell.

pricejj
09-30-2011, 02:14 PM
2010:

1. Brandon Lloyd is first Broncos reciever to lead the NFL in yards...All-Pro, Pro-bowl
2. Orton is benched after the Broncos go 3-10 and fire Mcdaniels.
3. Tebow starts remaining 3 games, with 50% completion percentage, and 227 rushing yards.
4. Brandon Lloyd is often heard in the media stating what a "good ball Orton throws".

2010 offseason:

1. Brandon Lloyd tweets how excited he is after learning that Orton won't be traded (entering a contract year).
2. Orton is named the starter because he gives the Broncos the "best chance to win".
3. Brandon Lloyd is hurt, and sits out 1 game.
4. Broncos go 1-2... "START TEBOW" becomes the mantra
5. Lloyd complains to McCoy that he is "under utilized".

It is pretty obvious to me that Lloyd has been one of the primary Orton supporters over the past year, because Orton will land him a huge contract. Being that he put up huge numbers (when we passed the ball 65% of the time), and he is literally the only thing that works in a Mcdaniels/McCoy offense (except Decker), McCoy listens.

The McCoy/Orton/Lloyd circle jerk isn't leading to WINS.

The "veterans" who are behind Orton, are simply guys like Lloyd, Moreno, who fear that their numbers will drop if Tebow comes in and takes over the offense. So much for "team" players.

Requiem
09-30-2011, 04:59 PM
It's okay Lloyd, I'd rather replace with you Alshon Jeffery.

bowtown
09-30-2011, 05:04 PM
Don't worry bro. He helped out on the scout team in 09 so he's swell.

You pipe down.

24champ
09-30-2011, 05:05 PM
It's okay Lloyd, I'd rather replace with you Alshon Jeffery.

Luck chucks it deep to Jeffery!
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college/files/2010/05/ajeffrey1.jpg

Requiem
09-30-2011, 05:09 PM
Luck to Jeffrey would be the wettest of wet dreams. Some people like Blackmon over Jeffrey because he's a better route runner and more polished, but I like Jeffrey's raw potential. He will be great.

Bronx33
09-30-2011, 05:34 PM
When orton is involved the whole offense is under-utilized.

troya900
09-30-2011, 08:46 PM
I laugh at people complaining about how the lockerroom will be lost if Tebow is put in, but really there's gotta be some in the lockerroom that just HAVE to be tired of hearing Lloyds **** week in and week out. If it's not one thing it's another he's bitching about.

broncocalijohn
09-30-2011, 09:29 PM
Luck to Jeffrey would be the wettest of wet dreams. Some people like Blackmon over Jeffrey because he's a better route runner and more polished, but I like Jeffrey's raw potential. He will be great.

That is what they said about Lelie.

BabyTO
10-01-2011, 03:13 AM
this toolbag was pimping orton over and over in the past, now he starts complaining cause he realized orton is not gonna get him his big contract. pretty soon he will be pimping tebow. what a piece of **** this guy is. if youre gonna support a piece of **** QB like orton at least stick with him. we all knew what orton that bum is all about. two losers. i hope they get traded to kansas or oakland

Play2win
10-01-2011, 03:40 AM
That is what they said about Lelie.

don't quote that bastard.

Requiem
10-01-2011, 08:52 AM
That is what they said about Lelie.

Jeffrey is 10x the player Lelie is.

Broncoman13
10-01-2011, 08:59 AM
this toolbag was pimping orton over and over in the past, now he starts complaining cause he realized orton is not gonna get him his big contract. pretty soon he will be pimping tebow. what a piece of **** this guy is. if youre gonna support a piece of **** QB like orton at least stick with him. we all knew what orton that bum is all about. two losers. i hope they get traded to kansas or oakland

Orton was a major voice in the lockerroom for why Fox thought it was important to play the veteran (KO) over the young Tebow. I'm not happy this is working out the way it is b/c it sucks for Bronco fans, but I sure as hell don't feel bad for Brandon Lloyd. Everytime Decker catches a ball I will cheer twice, one cheer for Decker and one cheer for BLloyd not getting the look every single time.

EmpireOrange
10-01-2011, 09:00 AM
I'd rather roll with Decker, DT, Royal, et al and trade him for value.

Please explain the "DT" backing. Has he even played 10 downs including practice? Agree with trading Loyd for value tho.

EmpireOrange
10-01-2011, 09:06 AM
Did anybody see the play last week when the ball hit loyd in the hands and he batted it to the ground? It was almost like he was scared of the ball. Would have been a first down too. Wonder how he explained that in meetings this week after everybody had seen the tape. Even the announcers were at a loss for words. The guy has been reading his last year clippings he's not playing well at all.

Requiem
10-01-2011, 09:18 AM
Demaryius still has a lot of potential. He isn't someone we need to give up on right now. When he did play last year he was electric.

Broncoman13
10-01-2011, 09:42 AM
Demaryius still has a lot of potential. He isn't someone we need to give up on right now. When he did play last year he was electric.

Dude has the potential to be outstanding. Injuries have the potential to prevent him from ever meeting that potential. Potentially his potential is never met. :) But I hope he gets right and goes for 120 per game for the rest of his career!

Broncoman13
10-01-2011, 09:44 AM
BTW, does anyone else see this offense and think having a bunch of stud receivers is just a waste of talent anyhow. We could have Calvin and Andre Johnson at receiver and Fox would still be dead set on settling for 2nd and 9 every time.

Punisher
10-01-2011, 10:21 AM
Trade his ass Moneyball style

~Crash~
10-02-2011, 07:51 PM
I have no problem with Lloyd wanting the ball more, wanting to make an impact.

Ofcourse he has selfish reasons for wanting it that way but with the run game/OL improving we need to utilize Lloyd more to stretch defenses, open up the run game and make it easier for guys like Decker/Thomas/Royal.

I wish we had more players that want the ball, especially in pressure situations, in the 4th quarter etc rather than players who do everything to avoid those situations like Orton.

yep again great takes

~Crash~
10-02-2011, 07:53 PM
this toolbag was pimping orton over and over in the past, now he starts complaining cause he realized orton is not gonna get him his big contract. pretty soon he will be pimping tebow. what a piece of **** this guy is. if youre gonna support a piece of **** QB like orton at least stick with him. we all knew what orton that bum is all about. two losers. i hope they get traded to kansas or oakland

that avitar you got sucks **** go **** yourself you ****ing dush bag mother****er !

Agamemnon
10-03-2011, 05:51 AM
BTW, does anyone else see this offense and think having a bunch of stud receivers is just a waste of talent anyhow. We could have Calvin and Andre Johnson at receiver and Fox would still be dead set on settling for 2nd and 9 every time.

Are you saying even with two Johnson's we couldn't find the hole? Ha!

fontaine
10-03-2011, 05:59 AM
BTW, does anyone else see this offense and think having a bunch of stud receivers is just a waste of talent anyhow. We could have Calvin and Andre Johnson at receiver and Fox would still be dead set on settling for 2nd and 9 every time.

No it's not a waste of talent.

Lloyd/Decker showed that they can effectively dominate a weaker secondary even when the ball isn't perfectly thrown.

We had more intermediate/long ball attempts in this game than all of the previous games put together so you're completely wrong there and if you're still not sure then just go ask Steve Smith.

Broncoman13
10-03-2011, 06:23 AM
No it's not a waste of talent.

Lloyd/Decker showed that they can effectively dominate a weaker secondary even when the ball isn't perfectly thrown.

We had more intermediate/long ball attempts in this game than all of the previous games put together so you're completely wrong there and if you're still not sure then just go ask Steve Smith.

You mean Steve Smith that is having a career year now that Fox is gone? I will agree it was nice to see them open it up a little yesterday, but that was due to being down, not standard philosophy.

fontaine
10-03-2011, 06:30 AM
You mean Steve Smith that is having a career year now that Fox is gone? I will agree it was nice to see them open it up a little yesterday, but that was due to being down, not standard philosophy.

We've played all of 4 games and you already know what standard philosophy is for this offense with a rookie OL starting, Beadles/Walton just in their 2nd year with a different OL scheme, Moreno/Royal/DT out missing, Lloyd only back now and Orton playing like crap?

Awesome, how many hours of game film/breaking down plays/tendencies, formations did you study or watch to know that?

montrose
10-03-2011, 06:49 AM
Well I'm sure Lloyd is a happy man this morning, other than missing out on 2 TDs because Orton underthrew him.

WolfpackGuy
10-03-2011, 06:52 AM
They get Lloyd more involved and lose by 26.

Who didn't see that coming?

jhns
10-03-2011, 07:04 AM
They get Lloyd more involved and lose by 26.

Who didn't see that coming?

And threw three picks.

orng&blu
10-03-2011, 12:06 PM
I know what else is feeling "under-utilized" are the defensive back's shoulder pads due to a complete lack of hitting anyone, or making any stops in the passing game. Their neck muscles are kinda sore though, from watching the opposing receivers whiz by them with the ball on the way to end zone! WOW! Whip-lash!!!