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mkporter
09-27-2011, 02:57 PM
More than any player in the recent past, Curry was touted as a can't miss, sure thing, safe pick. A good reminder that there is no such thing. I might be interested in us taking a look, but I'm feeling pretty good about our SLB these days.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/27/aaron-curry-hints-hes-on-the-trading-block/

Simple Jake
09-27-2011, 03:03 PM
More than any player in the recent past, Curry was touted as a can't miss, sure thing, safe pick. A good reminder that there is no such thing. I might be interested in us taking a look, but I'm feeling pretty good about our SLB these days.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/27/aaron-curry-hints-hes-on-the-trading-block/

Orton for Curry!

TheReverend
09-27-2011, 03:12 PM
Orton for Curry!

He'd never beat out Tavaris

TheDave
09-27-2011, 03:22 PM
no thanks... I've already had my fill of the 2009 draft

Dagmar
09-27-2011, 03:26 PM
#NFL source tells me a 7th rounder for Aaron Curry would be the most #Seahawks could expect. Even with his restructured deal...

I would absolutely trade him for Orton straight up.

Elway 4 Life
09-27-2011, 03:26 PM
He would be a big upgrade to mays.

Swedish Extrovert
09-27-2011, 03:29 PM
He would be a big upgrade to mays.

Yeah, I think Curry was floating around as a possible MLB in some circles. Shoot, give it a shot.

WABronco
09-27-2011, 03:30 PM
Ya sure take a chance. New talent is better than expecting something new and awesome of Mays/Woodyard/Haggan.

Swedish Extrovert
09-27-2011, 03:31 PM
I like Woodyard as a reserve player.

Punisher
09-27-2011, 03:34 PM
He'll end up either with the Steelers or the Ravens and go to the pro bowl like 100 times

Borks147
09-27-2011, 03:43 PM
This guy is what made me nervous about Miller - I'm glad that so far he is playing as expected *knocks furiously on wood*...

UberBroncoMan
09-27-2011, 03:48 PM
For a 7th? Why the **** not. Let's do it.

canadianbroncosfan
09-27-2011, 04:08 PM
For a 7th? Why the **** not. Let's do it.

No ****! Everyone talking about Orton, hell we can get a lot more for Orton if they're willing to part with him for a seventh rounder.

Simple Jake
09-27-2011, 04:22 PM
He would be a big upgrade to mays.

But Mays likes to hit things

oubronco
09-27-2011, 04:25 PM
For a 7th? Why the **** not. Let's do it.

No shyt!!

epicSocialism4tw
09-27-2011, 04:25 PM
He'd never beat out Tavaris

Tavaris is possibly the worst starting QB in the league.

Orton would certainly beat him out.

I love the idea of trading Orton for Curry.

RhymesayersDU
09-27-2011, 04:31 PM
Yeah, count me in on being for this trade if all it takes is a 7th.

Retire #30!!!
09-27-2011, 04:45 PM
For a 7th? Why the **** not. Let's do it.

Shoot we gave up more for Laurence Macaroni :thumbsup:
And look how that worked out

Kaylore
09-27-2011, 05:19 PM
Shoot we gave up more for Laurence Macaroni :thumbsup:
And look how that worked out

:spit: True.

TheReverend
09-27-2011, 05:43 PM
Tavaris is possibly the worst starting QB in the league.

Orton would certainly beat him out.

I love the idea of trading Orton for Curry.

I'm far from convinced. And Tavaris still has upside too lol

MagicHef
09-27-2011, 05:44 PM
What would we pay salary-wise? That seems like it could be the deciding factor much more than trade compensation.

TheReverend
09-27-2011, 05:49 PM
What would we pay salary-wise? That seems like it could be the deciding factor much more than trade compensation.

All his guaranteed money is paid, so let me see if I can find his base salary numbers.

TheReverend
09-27-2011, 05:52 PM
Former No. 4 overall pick Aaron Curry has agreed to a restructured contract that now expires following the 2012 season.
Curry surrendered $5 million worth of guaranteed money in exchange for dropping the final two seasons on what was originally a six-year, $60 million rookie deal. Curry is not considered in the class of JaMarcus Russell in terms of draft busts, but he's been a below-average starter with the Seahawks. The team may be grooming rookie K.J. Wright to challenge him next year.

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That should put him at a little over 4 million a year, I believe.

maven
09-27-2011, 07:05 PM
I just read that. Why would he surrender guaranteed money?

Lestat
09-27-2011, 07:17 PM
for a 5th or less why not take the gamble? this defense isn't exactly bowling folks over.

Anikai
09-27-2011, 07:21 PM
Kyle Orton for Charlie Whitehurst's beard

broncos-rock
09-27-2011, 07:22 PM
for a 5th or less why not take the gamble? this defense isn't exactly bowling folks over.


but they are not horrible. I think I heard they are ranked 16th so middle of the pack!

Drek
09-27-2011, 07:23 PM
I just read that. Why would he surrender guaranteed money?

Obviously something in Seattle isn't working out from his perspective either, since his "gain" was hitting FA two years early.

I'd really like to see us give him a shot at MLB. He's got the size and strength, with sideline to sideline speed.

Brian Urlacher was originally played at OLB and was by most accounts pretty awful there. As soon as the Bears bumped him inside the light came on. A change of scenery and a new role could do wonders for Curry.

extralife
09-27-2011, 07:33 PM
That should put him at a little over 4 million a year, I believe.

We wouldn't pay that for Mebane. Why in the hell would we dish it out to Curry?

lolpun

MagicHef
09-27-2011, 07:44 PM
We wouldn't pay that for Mebane. Why in the hell would we dish it out to Curry?

lolpun

Yeah, even if we traded Orton for Curry, 9 million - 4 million = 5 million saved, which is less than they'd have to pay in contact escalators for whichever QB starts instead of Orton.

I really doubt Curry ends up in Denver.

maven
09-27-2011, 08:07 PM
Obviously something in Seattle isn't working out from his perspective either, since his "gain" was hitting FA two years early.

I'd really like to see us give him a shot at MLB. He's got the size and strength, with sideline to sideline speed.

Brian Urlacher was originally played at OLB and was by most accounts pretty awful there. As soon as the Bears bumped him inside the light came on. A change of scenery and a new role could do wonders for Curry.

Had to be real bad. That is a lot of money for a football player to give. He's definitely looking for a change of scenery, you could trade for what is left on his contract and let it expire/re-negotiate another deal if he produces.

TheReverend
09-27-2011, 08:07 PM
Obviously something in Seattle isn't working out from his perspective either, since his "gain" was hitting FA two years early.

I'd really like to see us give him a shot at MLB. He's got the size and strength, with sideline to sideline speed.

Brian Urlacher was originally played at OLB and was by most accounts pretty awful there. As soon as the Bears bumped him inside the light came on. A change of scenery and a new role could do wonders for Curry.

While true, that SLB experiment lasted 1 game... not several seasons and he was DROY anyway.

Simple Jake
09-27-2011, 09:22 PM
Is he a headcase?

schaaf
09-27-2011, 09:25 PM
Is he a headcase?

From what I know, he is far from a headcase

Simple Jake
09-27-2011, 09:32 PM
From what I know, he is far from a headcase

I don't see any reason not to bring him in then.. im sure other teams are thinking the same thing though.. it'd be nice to see denver actually go after somebody for once

Rolandftw
09-27-2011, 09:47 PM
I still see him as a high ceiling type of player. The Broncos are not going to trade Orton to the Seahawks, but if all it took was a 5th-7th rounder it's worth a shot.

Dagmar
09-27-2011, 09:48 PM
This is a pipe dream, there will be plenty of interest.

Drek
09-28-2011, 03:11 AM
While true, that SLB experiment lasted 1 game... not several seasons and he was DROY anyway.

Sure, and I'm not saying Curry moves inside and suddenly becomes a pro-bowler. But whatever he's been doing or asked to do in Seattle clearly doesn't work. If we could get him cheap he's got all the requisite physical skills to play MLB and its a position where we could use additional young talent.

Its taking a flier for sure, but any 6th or 7th round pick is a bigger flier.

fontaine
09-28-2011, 04:00 AM
Sure, and I'm not saying Curry moves inside and suddenly becomes a pro-bowler. But whatever he's been doing or asked to do in Seattle clearly doesn't work. If we could get him cheap he's got all the requisite physical skills to play MLB and its a position where we could use additional young talent.

Its taking a flier for sure, but any 6th or 7th round pick is a bigger flier.

Exactly. This is the kind of move we should be making. Trading a 6/7th pick for a guy with huge upside that can at least provide some good depth.

Ray Finkle
09-28-2011, 05:04 AM
Aaron Curry or Mario Hagan.....not much debate needed.

LRtagger
09-28-2011, 05:42 AM
Get it done Xandway

Drunk Monkey
09-28-2011, 05:54 AM
If he was a MLB then yes trade for him. To bad he's not.

Drek
09-28-2011, 06:06 AM
If he was a MLB then yes trade for him. To bad he's not.

He's 255 pounds and has more than enough athleticism to try him out there.

We have a serious need for LB depth, if we can get him cheap he's definitely worth a shot.

epicSocialism4tw
09-28-2011, 07:15 AM
He's 255 pounds and has more than enough athleticism to try him out there.

We have a serious need for LB depth, if we can get him cheap he's definitely worth a shot.

You got that right.

I watched some of his college highlights and he looks like the type of guy who can play multiple positions. He has the speed that Fox likes, and hes a big dude who can hit.

I think that a big problem for him in Seattle is that his pass rushing skills havent developed, and thats a reason why he hasnt met expectations. Thats not what the Broncos would need him for.

Id roll the dice on this guy.

McDman
09-28-2011, 07:18 AM
Let's be honest, this isn't going to happen.

Ray Finkle
09-28-2011, 07:38 AM
Let's be honest, this isn't going to happen.

screw you and your logic, that has no place here!ROFL!

fontaine
09-28-2011, 07:48 AM
Let's be honest, this isn't going to happen.

Actually, I think there's a high chance it does happen.

1. Mike Mohammed was waived/signed to the practice sqaud to make room for Rosario, so we're one LB short.

2. Cosby was signed because of the WR injuries and with Lloyd coming back healthy he could be cut to make room for Curry (since we're down one LB without Mohammed).

Drek
09-28-2011, 08:01 AM
Let's be honest, this isn't going to happen.

Of course not. Because improving this team isn't a priority right now in this Suck for Luck season.

Drunk Monkey
09-28-2011, 08:02 AM
He's 255 pounds and has more than enough athleticism to try him out there.

We have a serious need for LB depth, if we can get him cheap he's definitely worth a shot.

When you put it that way why not. I was big on him during the draft and am surprised he hasn't panned out. For depth or a move to MLB then why not. As of now Von and WW / DJ (to a lesser extent) at OLB I am happy with.

TonyR
09-28-2011, 08:11 AM
As I said with Tatupu, if the Eagles and Giants, who both have holes to fill at LB, aren't interested then a red flag goes up with this guy. Both of those teams have very competent front offices and both are much more in the playoff hunt than the Broncos. If they don't think Curry can help them, particularly the Eagles who are desperate at MLB, then there must be pretty good reason.

DENVERDUI55
09-28-2011, 08:15 AM
I think that a big problem for him in Seattle is that his pass rushing skills havent developed, and thats a reason why he hasnt met expectations. Thats not what the Broncos would need him for.

Id roll the dice on this guy.

He was never a pass rushing guy. If you can't do it in college it usually means you aren't going to it in the pros.

Drek
09-28-2011, 08:25 AM
When you put it that way why not. I was big on him during the draft and am surprised he hasn't panned out. For depth or a move to MLB then why not. As of now Von and WW / DJ (to a lesser extent) at OLB I am happy with.

Exactly. How often is a 6th or 7th rounder even a backup? Not very. Curry has the athleticism and in college displayed more than capable pursuit and coverage skills to fill in at any of our three LB spots.

Seattle has tried using him to rush the passer, his worst skill in college. Apparently he isn't a fan of something there and wants a changer of scenery himself, hence the contract renegotiation where he gave up $5M to end his time there two years early. If all it costs is a late round pick to add an athlete like that to a shallow group why not do it?

Miller is set in stone, sure. But Mays and Haggan are both huge liabilities in coverage. Woodyard is very undersized. Nate Irving hasn't stayed healthy long enough to get up to speed in the shortened off-season. DJ can't keep himself healthy the last several years.

We have real need for additional guys at LB and while Curry has been a below average starter in Seattle its still better than our backups currently. Bring him in, try him out in a few different roles, most notably in the middle where he can go back to what he's good at in college (running game pursuit and coverage). Maybe we get lucky and the biggest "can't miss" draftee in recent years earns that rep one stop later in the NFL. Even if we don't he's probably a better situational nickel LB than sticking Mays or Haggan out there. Those two can't even keep up with TEs or RBs in today's NFL, let alone actually defend passes to them.

TheDave
09-28-2011, 08:26 AM
As I said with Tatupu, if the Eagles and Giants, who both have holes to fill at LB, aren't interested then a red flag goes up with this guy. Both of those teams have very competent front offices and both are much more in the playoff hunt than the Broncos. If they don't think Curry can help them, particularly the Eagles who are desperate at MLB, then there must be pretty good reason.

Shhhh... everyone is still reading his scouting report from 2009.

For some reason, everyone is forgetting the fact that 2009 was so chock full of busts that his performance is typical of the time he was drafted. Think of it this way, if Seattle is actually looking at cutting (even trading for a 6th/7th) a player that just gave back all his guaranteed money and who was just drafted #4 only 2 years ago...

He is a bust... Why would we want to populate our team with more underachieving players with upside?

Ray Finkle
09-28-2011, 08:29 AM
Shhhh... everyone is still reading his scouting report from 2009.

For some reason, everyone is forgetting the fact that 2009 was so chock full of busts that his performance is typical of the time he was drafted. Think of it this way, if Seattle is actually looking at cutting (even trading for a 6th/7th) a player that just gave back all his guaranteed money and who was just drafted #4 only 2 years ago...

He is a bust... Why would we want to populate our team with more underachieving players with upside?

Aaron Curry > Mario Hagan

fontaine
09-28-2011, 08:31 AM
Shhhh... everyone is still reading his scouting report from 2009.

For some reason, everyone is forgetting the fact that 2009 was so chock full of busts that his performance is typical of the time he was drafted. Think of it this way, if Seattle is actually looking at cutting (even trading for a 6th/7th) a player that just gave back all his guaranteed money and who was just drafted #4 only 2 years ago...

He is a bust... Why would we want to populate our team with more underachieving players with upside?

At this point having underachieving players with upside for our depth would be a vast improvement over the set of underachieving no upside scrubs we have.

That is unless you think Haggans/Mays have some kind of untapped hidden potential that has eluded everyone so far.

TheDave
09-28-2011, 08:33 AM
Aaron Curry > Mario Hagan

Really?

Then why are they basically cutting him?

fontaine
09-28-2011, 08:36 AM
Really?

Then why are they basically cutting him?

Except they're not. He's been demoted which could just be a wake up call for him.

It's only the media that's speculating he's available via trade.

TheDave
09-28-2011, 08:43 AM
Except they're not. He's been demoted which could just be a wake up call for him.

It's only the media that's speculating he's available via trade.

In that case i guess we all have nothing to talk about...ROFL!

But as a hypothetical, for a 6th round pick and 5mil salary I get a back-up SOLB with physical talent who tends to make costly mental errors.

Sorry but thats a bust.

...and at 5 mil no one is going to assume that mess.

Drek
09-28-2011, 09:14 AM
He is a bust... Why would we want to populate our team with more underachieving players with upside?

Because they're better than the underachieving players with no upside we currently have our roster jam packed with?

Ray Finkle
09-28-2011, 10:07 AM
Really?

Then why are they basically cutting him?

he doesn't fit the scheme...

how many times do you see guys get cut and go to a scheme that fits them and become productive? It's a gamble but this team is in a position to take a gamble on a guy that worst case is a solid back up.

TheReverend
09-28-2011, 10:21 AM
he doesn't fit the scheme...

how many times do you see guys get cut and go to a scheme that fits them and become productive? It's a gamble but this team is in a position to take a gamble on a guy that worst case is a solid back up.

Honestly, not all that often.

And a new scheme won't stop him from being a pussy :)

epicSocialism4tw
09-28-2011, 10:30 AM
As I said with Tatupu, if the Eagles and Giants, who both have holes to fill at LB, aren't interested then a red flag goes up with this guy. Both of those teams have very competent front offices and both are much more in the playoff hunt than the Broncos. If they don't think Curry can help them, particularly the Eagles who are desperate at MLB, then there must be pretty good reason.

The Eagles also paid Asomaoguaogoaeoah and play him at the wrong position, so I wouldn't be too concerned with what they think about anything.

gyldenlove
09-28-2011, 10:33 AM
he doesn't fit the scheme...

how many times do you see guys get cut and go to a scheme that fits them and become productive? It's a gamble but this team is in a position to take a gamble on a guy that worst case is a solid back up.

I can remember a few (James Harrison, Brandon Lloyd, Michael Vick (not a good example)), I am sure there are few more, maybe Jarvis Moss will be one. The number is however insignificant compared to the number of players who just move around and never find real success.

epicSocialism4tw
09-28-2011, 10:35 AM
He was never a pass rushing guy. If you can't do it in college it usually means you aren't going to it in the pros.

That's right.

TonyR
09-28-2011, 10:40 AM
The Eagles also paid Asomaoguaogoaeoah and play him at the wrong position, so I wouldn't be too concerned with what they think about anything.

Assuming you mean "system/scheme" and not "position" I agree that what they are doing in that case is stupid. But their problem is that he's a man guy whereas Asante Samuel is a zone guy. So either way somebody will be in the wrong scheme. And if you think Denver's FO has a better track record and/or more credibility than the Eagles' or Giants then I don't know what to tell you.

Ray Finkle
09-28-2011, 11:03 AM
Honestly, not all that often.

And a new scheme won't stop him from being a p***Y :)

he's a top 5 pick. If Gholston and Maybin can get second chances, I think it's worth it on Curry.

TheReverend
09-28-2011, 11:17 AM
he's a top 5 pick. If Gholston and Maybin can get second chances, I think it's worth it on Curry.

His price tag is still almost where cofield and josephs are. If we wouldn't buy proven young talent why would we buy some upside bust just to play him out of position?

Powderaddict
09-28-2011, 11:26 AM
If he is around 4 mill and isn't a significant upgrade over Mays, I don't see if happening. Especiallysince Denver doesn't have a 6th (Mays) and a whaterver round (Quinn).

I'm not positive bit isn't that close to DJ Williams money?

Now if the front office and staff feel he could really live up to his draft status and potential, then yeah, go get him!

Ray Finkle
09-28-2011, 11:52 AM
His price tag is still almost where cofield and josephs are. If we wouldn't buy proven young talent why would we buy some upside bust just to play him out of position?

will you stop injecting logic into my ramblings?

Dedhed
09-28-2011, 12:49 PM
Orton for Curry!

I would weep tears of joy if that went down.

Doggcow
09-28-2011, 12:53 PM
Do it

fontaine
09-28-2011, 01:50 PM
His price tag is still almost where cofield and josephs are. If we wouldn't buy proven young talent why would we buy some upside bust just to play him out of position?

Why do people just assume that the FO is so dumb that they wouldn't even think about renegotiating his contract before the trade is finalized?

ozomulsion
09-28-2011, 02:06 PM
Way too dramatic of a move for EFX. If they did it, a couple of them may suffer heart problems. That would be sad. Then we could fill their positions with people who know what they're doing. That wouldn't be so sad.

TheReverend
09-28-2011, 02:11 PM
Why do people just assume that the FO is so dumb that they wouldn't even think about renegotiating his contract before the trade is finalized?

Unless the price tag goes UP, he wouldn't do it. He JUST renegotiated so he could become a FA after this season. You can't say, "Okay, there's probably more money out there for you in FA, but YOU COULD BE IN DENVER!"

epicSocialism4tw
09-28-2011, 03:29 PM
Assuming you mean "system/scheme" and not "position" I agree that what they are doing in that case is stupid. But their problem is that he's a man guy whereas Asante Samuel is a zone guy. So either way somebody will be in the wrong scheme. And if you think Denver's FO has a better track record and/or more credibility than the Eagles' or Giants then I don't know what to tell you.

You assume too much. You know what they say about those who assume...

TonyR
09-28-2011, 03:52 PM
You assume too much.

Oh? So then the Eagles have played Asomugha at a position other than CB? Because I was trying to help you out with my assumption. If I assumed wrong then you're just proving that you don't know what you're talking about.

maher_tyler
09-28-2011, 07:33 PM
All this being said, i highly doubt he ends up in Denver! I'm sure the FO is ok with what we have. Basing that off of the lack of moves during the free agency period!