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RhymesayersDU
09-25-2011, 04:27 PM
In the spirit of the bright side, let's all take a moment to appreciate Von Miller.

In 3 games he has 2 sacks and more importantly 2 forced fumbles. For a defense that hasn't been able to create a turnover in a long time (Champ's 10+ INT year, I'd say) this is very promising.

I know that 3 games is a ridiculously small sample size, but still, we need guys getting to the ball and taking it away from the offense.

Good work, Von. #millertime

Finger Roll
09-25-2011, 04:40 PM
He also has done a great job against the run and in pass protection. Tight Ends haven't done anything against us this year.

razorwire77
09-25-2011, 04:42 PM
He's also done this without having Elvis on the other side. He's doing this despite facing constant double teams and chipping.

vonqkilla
09-25-2011, 04:46 PM
Word

mkporter
09-25-2011, 04:47 PM
Von Miller has been a lot of fun to watch. I knew he was fast, but I've been really impressed by his strength. He does a really nice job setting the edge and taking on lead blockers in the run game. I think a #58 might be going on my xmas list.

DivineBronco
09-25-2011, 04:49 PM
couple times today they rolled Hasselsmacky away from wherever von was.....Elivis better get up off his pile of money soon and do some sacking

HooptyHoops
09-25-2011, 05:15 PM
Amen! Von is the man and he is only going to get better!! Yep, #58 might be the next jersey in my household!!

broncswin
09-25-2011, 05:19 PM
Von Miller has been a lot of fun to watch. I knew he was fast, but I've been really impressed by his strength. He does a really nice job setting the edge and taking on lead blockers in the run game. I think a #58 might be going on my xmas list.

nnnnnoooooooooo......the jinx gods will make us pay

epicSocialism4tw
09-25-2011, 05:20 PM
Von also has a couple of tackles for loss.

What's so encouraging about Von is that he's accomplishing this stuff basically on raw ability. He still doesn't always know what he's supposed to do out there situationally.

Just wait 'til year 3 with Von. That's usually when young players get their heads around the game and play at or above normal game speed. At that point he could be the best OLB and pass rusher in the NFL.

Tim
09-25-2011, 05:26 PM
I watched all 3 games and missed the sack #2 but I agree he is good.

Edit: the sack came with the FF

razorwire77
09-25-2011, 05:30 PM
What's great about Von is his instincts. In the modern NFL draft you have dozens of guys with off the chart measurables, that just aren't instinctive players. Von Miller, like the Ray Lewis' and Clay Matthews' of the world has those instincts. The injury gods better not **** us on this one.

Que
09-25-2011, 05:31 PM
Agreed. Von is off to a terrific start!

Tim
09-25-2011, 06:19 PM
He should have 2 forced fumbles in today's game since britt threw the ball at him because von was getting ready to smack him.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d82289345/Britt-carted-off-field at about :40 seconds you see the forced fumble by fear.

ICON
09-25-2011, 06:42 PM
Just give us two more men like this on are D and things will be a lot better Good draft pick for Fox and co...

Swedish Extrovert
09-25-2011, 07:26 PM
Just give us two more men like this on are D and things will be a lot better Good draft pick for Fox and co...

Just fill the holes. Von is a difference maker, and there aren't too many players in the league like him.

BroncoBuff
09-25-2011, 08:51 PM
He should have 2 forced fumbles in today's game since britt threw the ball at him because von was getting ready to smack him.

Nice thought, but it was probably the guy's knee snapping under him that did it. Von was right there, though. Besides the sack and the strip, he hit Hasselbeck at least twice ... not sure if they qualify as "hurries," but he is all over the place. He seems comfortable in the running downs, too from what I've seem.

He probably won't cut loose for another couple weeks. By all accounts rookie starters think too much at first, worried about making mistakes. I can't wait 'til next week cause I get to watch Von Miller again ;D

TheReverend
09-25-2011, 08:52 PM
Hopeful that this not only stays consistent, but even intensifies when Elvis returns.

We need every bright spot we have to shine like the goddamn sun.

barryr
09-25-2011, 08:53 PM
I am happy with Miller. He will be a force for years to come. Obviously more help is needed since not much at CB without Champ and the rest of the DL is not doing much. Dumervil being hurt again does not help.

BroncoBuff
09-25-2011, 08:54 PM
Von has a pretty substantial frame for an SOLB, don't you think Rev?

Yes barryr, wait 'til Elvis is back in the building ... stack 'em together, or one from each side.

epic I think he'll peak midseason this year, why not?

TheReverend
09-25-2011, 08:55 PM
Von has a pretty substantial frame for an SOLB, don't you think Rev?

One of the biggest.

barryr
09-25-2011, 08:57 PM
Von has a pretty substantial frame for an SOLB, don't you think Rev?

Yes barryr, wait 'til Elvis is back in the building ... stack 'em together, or one from each side.

epic I think he'll peak midseason this year, why not?

I am wondering just how much Dumervil can be counted on. He is smallish and now injured again.

UberBroncoMan
09-25-2011, 09:04 PM
I am wondering just how much Dumervil can be counted on. He is smallish and now injured again.

Injuries was never a major issue in his career before last season. **** just went bad. Funny enough it was similar with Ty Warren.

<^>(-_-)<^>
09-25-2011, 09:05 PM
This year I swear I am going to stuff the Pro Bowl ballot with at least 1,000 votes for Von Miller.

barryr
09-25-2011, 09:05 PM
Injuries was never a major issue in his career before last season. **** just went bad. Funny enough it was similar with Ty Warren.

Hopefully they won't be, but sometimes just takes one and then it never seems to stop. The Broncos obviously need Dumervil healthy.

epicSocialism4tw
09-25-2011, 09:09 PM
epic I think he'll peak midseason this year, why not?

Well, the natural learning curve for players in sports is two seasons, and the player usually begins his term as a prime years player by the end of year three.

I'm just being conservative with Von, especially given that he had an unconventional offseason this year and he's going to have to do alot of learning on the fly.

As for his pure pass rushing ability...just his raw athleticism will probably get him double digit sacks this year. Could he break Jevon Kearse's rookie record of 14.5? That would be tough, but the crazy thing is...its not out of the realm of possibility with Von, and he's already off to that kind of start.

BroncoBuff
09-25-2011, 09:20 PM
Could he break Jevon Kearse's rookie record of 14.5? That would be tough, but the crazy thing is...its not out of the realm of possibility with Von, and he's already off to that kind of start.

Not particularly likely imo, but my theory has always been that pass rush skills are 90% natural talent. Look at Elvis, too small for the NFL? Yeah, right ... just a 4th round pick, but he's led his team every year as a pro (despite never playing with an above average DT), and led the league in year 4.

If you don't sack in college, you almost certainly won't in the Leaguer. See 1st round OLB's DJ Williams, Aaron Curry and Robert Ayers. None sacked in college ... even so, hopes were high each would so in the NFL. Hasn't happened.

You're either born to sack or you're not ... and Elvis and Von were born to sack.

Swedish Extrovert
09-25-2011, 10:08 PM
Von also has a couple of tackles for loss.

What's so encouraging about Von is that he's accomplishing this stuff basically on raw ability. He still doesn't always know what he's supposed to do out there situationally.

Just wait 'til year 3 with Von. That's usually when young players get their heads around the game and play at or above normal game speed. At that point he could be the best OLB and pass rusher in the NFL.

I agree with this, given raw ability.

I, however, also thought Ashley Lelie was going to be a long-term starter/reception leader for us at WR.

Hulamau
09-25-2011, 11:07 PM
I agree with this, given raw ability.

I, however, also thought Ashley Lelie was going to be a long-term starter/reception leader for us at WR.

He could have been a solid long term WR if only he had gotten his head out of his ass, had a character revamp and grown a sack. Instea, he chose the Prima Donna 'Im entitled' path and got himself more or less shunned from the league.

mkporter
09-25-2011, 11:09 PM
He could have been a solid long term WR is he had gotten his head out of his ass. He chose the Prima Donna 'Im entitled' path and got himself more or less shunned from the league.

That and he could only run a go route.

BroncoBuff
09-25-2011, 11:24 PM
He chose the Prima Donna 'Im entitled' path and got himself more or less shunned from the league.What did he say to Shanahan after the Javon Walker signing, 'you lied to me' or sommething?

Almost as bad as Clarett asking/demanding to run behind the O-line starters.

Crow
09-26-2011, 07:42 AM
I honestly thought you guys would/should draft Marcel Dareus. But, if some quality DTs are added next season, and Miller continues to play the way he has, this pick will look brilliant.

In spite of the lack of DTs on the roster, there was some sound logic to taking Miller. If you get the opportunity to take a guy who can legitimately get after the QB, you go get that guy. Dude's going to be a regular visitor to Hawaii, I'm afraid.

TheReverend
09-26-2011, 07:48 AM
I honestly thought you guys would/should draft Marcel Dareus. But, if some quality DTs are added next season, and Miller continues to play the way he has, this pick will look brilliant.

In spite of the lack of DTs on the roster, there was some sound logic to taking Miller. If you get the opportunity to take a guy who can legitimately get after the QB, you go get that guy. Dude's going to be a regular visitor to Hawaii, I'm afraid.

We currently are fielding a team where NO ONE can cover a defender.

Sadly, that is NOT an exaggeration.

DT is, for once, a decent way down the priority chain.

Crow
09-26-2011, 08:11 AM
We currently are fielding a team where NO ONE can cover a defender.

Sadly, that is NOT an exaggeration.

DT is, for once, a decent way down the priority chain.

I dunno. I'm a big believer in the "build from the inside out" philosophy. If your lines are strong, everyone else plays better. On defense, if you have two guys in the middle (3 if you run a 34) who command attention and can be disruptive, those outside rushers and LBs have a lot more freedom to do their thing.

A lot of teams don't operate that way, though. The Colts drive me nuts with their disinterest in getting Freeney/Mathis any inside help. Al was the same way with the Raiders for a long time. Approached the DT position like a drunken chubby chaser at last call. Not picky at all.

And with the salary cap, teams really tend to focus on either being an offensive team or a defensive team. With guys like Miller and Doom (who I was dying to see Al draft that year) already in the mix, I would have to keep a watchful eye on next year's DT crop.

Kaylore
09-26-2011, 08:44 AM
I like Von Miller. I'm going to try and be his friend on Facebook.

BroncoBuff
09-26-2011, 10:14 AM
If that doesn't prove you like him, nothing will.

Actually, I sang him a love song in a thread here a few weeks ago. That's love too.