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Punisher
09-25-2011, 01:56 PM
Hell i take him if we don't get Luck the kid looks promising

frerottenextelway
09-25-2011, 01:57 PM
How about we just ****ing start Tebow already and let the chips fall where they do in the offseason if he doesn't work out.

Punisher
09-25-2011, 01:59 PM
How about we just ****ing start Tebow already and let the chips fall where they do in the offseason if he doesn't work out.

lol Tebow sucks

frerottenextelway
09-25-2011, 02:01 PM
Maybe, so does Orton. At least make the paying fans happy, then do what you have to in the offseason.

Punisher
09-25-2011, 02:03 PM
Maybe, so does Orton. At least make the paying fans happy, then do what you have to in the offseason.

Yea i free ya Pat should go over the HC and start Tebow.Hell he should of did that the first time with the Cutler situation.

HILife
09-25-2011, 02:06 PM
NO!!!! Suck for Luck.

Rohirrim
09-25-2011, 02:11 PM
Barkley seems to improve every game. He's not as polished as Luck, but he's been a starter since he walked onto that team his freshman year. He's going to be a good one.

24champ
09-25-2011, 02:11 PM
Hell i take him if we don't get Luck the kid looks promising

Barkley is worse than Orton. He ****ing sucks.

Baba Booey
09-25-2011, 02:14 PM
Barkley sucks. Foles, L. Jones, Osweiler, or Cousins please.

Dagmar
09-25-2011, 02:15 PM
Is redskins.com broken Punisher? **** off.

NFLBRONCO
09-25-2011, 02:15 PM
USC QB's are kind of scary though

Punisher
09-25-2011, 02:15 PM
Barkley is worse than Orton. He ****ing sucks.

hmmm...

24champ
09-25-2011, 02:15 PM
Barkley sucks. Foles, L. Jones, Osweiler, or Cousins please.

This.

24champ
09-25-2011, 02:16 PM
hmmm...

Did watch Barkley last night?

KipCorrington25
09-25-2011, 02:16 PM
Is Stephen Hawking available? I'd take him over what I saw today.

Aftermath
09-25-2011, 02:17 PM
Barkley sucks. Foles, L. Jones, Osweiler, or Cousins please.

Cousins???? Rofl you must not watch the games.

Williams
09-25-2011, 02:17 PM
How about we just ****ing start Tebow already and let the chips fall where they do in the offseason if he doesn't work out.

Yep.

DrFate
09-25-2011, 02:19 PM
Barkley sucks. Foles, L. Jones, Osweiler, or Cousins please.

I stayed up to watch Laundry Jones a couple weeks ago, thinking he might be an option.

I wasn't impressed at all.

Punisher
09-25-2011, 02:20 PM
Did watch Barkley last night?

I can honestly say no but I watch a lot of USC games the kid looks solid

24champ
09-25-2011, 02:22 PM
I can honestly say no but I watch a lot of USC games the kid looks solid

A U$C fan in the CFB thread compared Barkley to Orton.

He's not what we need and generally speaking U$C Quarterbacks are busts.

Rohirrim
09-25-2011, 02:33 PM
The USC team is hard to judge right now, including Barkley's performance. Lane Kiffin is a terrible coach. That team is half of what it was under Pete Carroll. They play about as flat as Kiffin's personality. Even one of the field announcers pointed it out yesterday. They said it was like a morgue walking behind the sidelines compared to when Carroll was coaching and all the players would be bouncing on the sidelines. Lane Kiffin has no guts and no heart. I still think Matt Barkley is the real deal. If Kiffin doesn't ruin him. He should definitely come out at the end of this season and get away from Kiffin.

OBF1
09-25-2011, 02:51 PM
Hell i take him if we don't get Luck the kid looks promising

The more you post, the more it becomes clear you have your head so far up your ass, your heart is pounding your brains.

Broncos4Life
09-25-2011, 03:00 PM
Barkley sucks. Foles, L. Jones, Osweiler, or Cousins please.

No to Barkley! Also, extra extra NO to Foles. I am from AZ and I've watched almost every AZ game. He is not a winner. Not to mention extremely immobile.

Punisher
09-25-2011, 03:04 PM
The more you post, the more it becomes clear you have your head so far up your ass, your heart is pounding your brains.

I jerked off to your pictures you put on the O-Mane soooooo much :-* Love the goatee

Broncos4Life
09-25-2011, 03:05 PM
:hitself:The more you post, the more it becomes clear you have your head so far up your ass, your heart is pounding your brains.

I was gonna post pretty much the same thing.

:hitself::flush:

SonOfLe-loLang
09-25-2011, 03:23 PM
Barkley looked pretty poor last night

peacepipe
09-25-2011, 03:25 PM
after luck the talent level at QB drops pretty dramaticly.

Momentum
09-25-2011, 03:28 PM
after luck the talent level at QB drops pretty dramaticly.

I wouldnt say dramatically. This class is still waaaaaay better than the last class we saw

Tim
09-25-2011, 03:31 PM
This place is hilarious after a loss

TDmvp
09-25-2011, 03:44 PM
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4508/archiepunishersmall.jpg

Houshyamama
09-25-2011, 03:51 PM
Pass on Barkley. No ****ing way.

Punisher
09-25-2011, 03:55 PM
Im going to Laugh my ass to i **** if the broncos draft Barkley

DrFate
09-25-2011, 04:00 PM
I wouldnt say dramatically. This class is still waaaaaay better than the last class we saw

You mean 2011 when 4 were taken in the top 12?

Archer81
09-25-2011, 04:03 PM
I'd prefer to see what we have in the QB we used a 1st rd pick on before we decide to use it on another one.

I'm crazy that way.

:Broncos:

Aftermath
09-25-2011, 04:23 PM
This place is hilarious after a loss

Leave then? Please.

smoke4815162342
09-25-2011, 04:40 PM
I saw him in person last night and wasnt not impressed.

Even USC homers (check out their scout forum) talk about how Matt hasnt made much progression after being a starter 2+ seasons

oubronco
09-25-2011, 04:41 PM
I'd rather have Landry Jones

Houshyamama
09-25-2011, 05:37 PM
Vontaze..... Burfict.

Momentum
09-25-2011, 05:43 PM
You mean 2011 when 4 were taken in the top 12?

Doesn't matter where they were taken. They aren't very good. Cam Newton is having a "Vince Young" streak but once his divison all sees him, they'll scheme to his weaknesses and he'll cool off.

I don't doubt for a minute that the best QB of this past class was Ryan Mallet and considering he was not among the 6 QBs that went in the top 50 picks.... that says a lot about this class.

smoke4815162342
09-25-2011, 07:05 PM
Vontaze..... Burfict.

He wears #7 because of John Elway and is still a big time broncos. This is what he told me.

maher_tyler
09-25-2011, 07:15 PM
No to Barkley! Also, extra extra NO to Foles. I am from AZ and I've watched almost every AZ game. He is not a winner. Not to mention extremely immobile.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/238803/nick-foles

Yea...you're an idiot! Their defense is ****ing terrible!! Their last 3 opponents have been ranked in the top 10!

smoke4815162342
09-25-2011, 07:26 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/238803/nick-foles

Yea...you're an idiot! Their defense is ****ing terrible!! Their last 3 opponents have been ranked in the top 10!

The idiot is the one who thinks a box score can explain how good a Qb is

broncocalijohn
09-25-2011, 07:30 PM
Barkley is worse than Orton. He ****ing sucks.

WHILE I wouldnt go this far as Champ's hatred is based on his ignorance of being a Bruins fan, he reaction is pretty much spot on. Barkley is horrid in 4th quarters. Without knowing it from memory, I wish I could post it actually. Look it up and compare to his other 3 quarters. He pretty much chokes when he is needed in a close game. He also has the ability to make it a close game. It figures one of the worst posters with opinions would jump for joy over Barkley for our QB. If those that hate Orton now, would probably feel the same with him. Barkley cannot compare to those QBs coming out for the draft. He should stay for his senior year and improve.

maher_tyler
09-25-2011, 07:33 PM
The idiot is the one who thinks a box score can explain how good a Qb is

Been living in Tucson for 2 years, seen him live..he's played well on a ****ty team!

Natedog24
09-25-2011, 07:53 PM
Vontaze..... Burfict.

Yes please

razorwire77
09-25-2011, 07:54 PM
Barkley is going to make Jimmie Clausen look like Johnny Unitas.

smoke4815162342
09-25-2011, 08:07 PM
Been living in Tucson for 2 years, seen him live..he's played well on a ****ty team!

By played well do you mean for uofa qb standards or for 1st round NFL standards?

IHaveALight
09-25-2011, 08:07 PM
Is Stephen Hawking available? I'd take him over what I saw today.
This would seem to improve the mobility at the QB position.

BroncoSojia
09-25-2011, 08:09 PM
I'd rather have Landry Jones

Of course you would :P

That One Guy
09-25-2011, 08:13 PM
By played well do you mean for uofa qb standards or for 1st round NFL standards?

Now, I have to ask... if I dial the number in your user name, will you answer?

BroncoLover
09-25-2011, 08:16 PM
No thanks, i prefer to improve one side of the football even more .. DT will be our No 1 pick if we dont get Luck. Also remember we have a first round QB on bench and this board, city, state and country seems to be divided over why he is not playing. Why add 1 more to the boo birds

maher_tyler
09-25-2011, 08:49 PM
By played well do you mean for uofa qb standards or for 1st round NFL standards?

Ahhhh i see..i wasn't thinking he'd go in the first...

I'm not sure if we'll be bad enough to get Luck, but think we'll be picking in the top 10 again. If we can't get Luck, i want to pick the next best player. When would Foles be projected to go?? 2nd-3rd??

DivineBronco
09-25-2011, 08:52 PM
the colts are all in on luck......they just found a way to put Painter in while still tied......the KC indy game is going to an all time game to see who can stay winless

maher_tyler
09-25-2011, 08:52 PM
the colts are all in on luck......they just found a way to put Painter in while still tied......the KC indy game is going to an all time game to see who can stay winless

Collins went into the locker room...possible concussion

smoke4815162342
09-25-2011, 08:56 PM
Ahhhh i see..i wasn't thinking he'd go in the first...

I'm not sure if we'll be bad enough to get Luck, but think we'll be picking in the top 10 again. If we can't get Luck, i want to pick the next best player. When would Foles be projected to go?? 2nd-3rd??

Ive mostly seen foles as the 4th best qb available and a late 1 guy, early 2 guy.

Lestat
09-25-2011, 09:34 PM
i like the first three as well as Barkley, but hell no on Cousins.
Barkley sucks. Foles, L. Jones, Osweiler, or Cousins please.

Steve Sewell
09-25-2011, 09:40 PM
I think Landry Jones is probably the 2nd best QB prospect in the draft.

vonqkilla
10-01-2011, 10:23 PM
Barkley had a good game, Luck made a great one handed catch, yes catch tonite. Just hit te on a post for six.

No spread bs, play action out double te right...ala Brady.

Luck is to Barkley as Montana was to Sims in the nfc.

Hes just better, I dont trust barkley, luck right now would take a team to the playoffs with decent talent.

cutthemdown
10-01-2011, 10:37 PM
I like the kid from Wisconsin Russell. What round will he go in? Approx? Is he a first rounder most likely?

maher_tyler
10-01-2011, 11:00 PM
Barkley had a good game, Luck made a great one handed catch, yes catch tonite. Just hit te on a post for six.

No spread bs, play action out double te right...ala Brady.

Luck is to Barkley as Montana was to Sims in the nfc.

Hes just better, I dont trust barkley, luck right now would take a team to the playoffs with decent talent.

Seems like Luck likes to go to the TE a lot from what i've seen...how good is he at throwing to the outside??

KCStud
10-01-2011, 11:02 PM
Barkley had a good game, Luck made a great one handed catch, yes catch tonite. Just hit te on a post for six.

No spread bs, play action out double te right...ala Brady.

Luck is to Barkley as Montana was to Sims in the nfc.

Hes just better, I dont trust barkley, luck right now would take a team to the playoffs with decent talent.

I think Luck could take SEA, MIN, KC or MIA to the playoffs next year.

cutthemdown
10-02-2011, 12:06 AM
The way KC looks I'm not sure they aren't in for a fire the coach, totally rebuilding yr.

cutthemdown
10-02-2011, 12:12 AM
I watched about an hour of different luck and wilson. I'm trying to find out why people think Luck is a sure fire better pro then this kid from Wisconsin who looks pretty good to me.

ZONA
10-02-2011, 12:13 AM
No to Barkley! Also, extra extra NO to Foles. I am from AZ and I've watched almost every AZ game. He is not a winner. Not to mention extremely immobile.

OMG - drama queen. He's not a winner because their defense sucks. His offense puts up about 35 points a game. They just put up 41 on USC and it's his fault they didn't win? WTF?

These are his stats for the year and they've played a nasty schedule so far.

NAME CMP ATT YDS CMP% YDS/A TD INT RAT
Foles 129 183 1447 70.5 7.91 10 0 154.9


Yeah, that's basically 1500 yards in 4 games. 10TD's, no picks, over 70% completions (and yes he throws his share of dinks but he goes deep often also, you don't get 1500 yards in 4 games with dinks alone). Oh yeah, and a moderate 155 passer rating, lolz.


I'd say that's pretty darn good. He's mobile enough. He moves in the pocket pretty good and he's shown he can take some good hits and get back up. Again, not sure how you can pin losses on him or the offense when they score like they do. Arizona defense is to blame for all of their losses.

ZONA
10-02-2011, 12:16 AM
Seems like Luck likes to go to the TE a lot from what i've seen...how good is he at throwing to the outside??

That's because they don't have a WR worth a damn and they have about 3 really good TE's.

Standford is not a fast athletic team. Not flashy. Their a power team. He throws to the TE's alot because they go with so many 2 TE sets.

MacGruder
10-02-2011, 01:24 AM
Yep.. Luck is a surefire success.. just like Sam Bradford and Jake Locker...

Broncos_OTM
10-02-2011, 03:23 AM
Yep.. Luck is a surefire success.. just like Sam Bradford and Jake Locker...
What are you talking about locker had ALOT of questions on his ability tobrun a pro scheme.

And Bradford ran a spread option in college with alot of questions about him as well.
Bradford had a great season last year for the rams. I haven't kept up with much yearfootball this year
But I'm sure he hasn't been atrocious. And who are his wideouts again...

epicSocialism4tw
10-02-2011, 03:37 AM
What are you talking about locker had ALOT of questions on his ability tobrun a pro scheme.

And Bradford ran a spread option in college with alot of questions about him as well.
Bradford had a great season last year for the rams. I haven't kept up with much yearfootball this year
But I'm sure he hasn't been atrocious. And who are his wideouts again...

Bradford got hurt in the opener and had a fine season last year.

McGruber is just a weird SEC-psycho who thinks that nobody could ever be better than an SEC player.

MacGruder
10-02-2011, 03:48 AM
Yeah.. SEC psycho.. it's hilarious how Tebow plays great and everyone says he sucks and these guys they said would be great play like crap and everyone says they are great...

Then I am called the psycho. lol

The media was on Jake Locker's junk just like they are Luck's now.. except Locker stayed another year and was exposed, even in the PAC10. Then he was supposed to drop out of the first round then ended up going towards the top.

Bradford was called can't miss just like like Luck and Locker.. the only question mark was supposed to be his injured shoulder and Bradford had the one of the worst total QB rankings last season. He dinked and dunked all last year and looks awful this year.

Put all these non-SEC QBs in the SEC where they actually play defense consistently and then see how great they look. Colt McCoy couldn't even make it through one quarter against Alabama and Tebow made it through 4 seasons playing more physical than Cam Newton in the SEC.

Just look how Cam looked as a passer in the SEC and how much better he looks than many of these guys from other conferences.. and Cam stinks.

Call me crazy... but this is how I see it as an impartial observer of college football. I have no ties or biases.

elsid13
10-02-2011, 05:44 AM
I like the kid from Wisconsin Russell. What round will he go in? Approx? Is he a first rounder most likely?

He most like a late rounder - 5 plus.

Broncos_OTM
10-02-2011, 05:47 AM
Yeah.. SEC psycho.. it's hilarious how Tebow plays great and everyone says he sucks and these guys they said would be great play like crap and everyone says they are great...

Then I am called the psycho. lol

The media was on Jake Locker's junk just like they are Luck's now.. except Locker stayed another year and was exposed, even in the PAC10. Then he was supposed to drop out of the first round then ended up going towards the top.

Bradford was called can't miss just like like Luck and Locker.. the only question mark was supposed to be his injured shoulder and Bradford had the one of the worst total QB rankings last season. He dinked and dunked all last year and looks awful this year.

Put all these non-SEC QBs in the SEC where they actually play defense consistently and then see how great they look. Colt McCoy couldn't even make it through one quarter against Alabama and Tebow made it through 4 seasons playing more physical than Cam Newton in the SEC.

Just look how Cam looked as a passer in the SEC and how much better he looks than many of these guys from other conferences.. and Cam stinks.

Call me crazy... but this is how I see it as an impartial observer of college football. I have no ties or biases.
Jamatcus Russel sends his regaurds.

The main stream media had locker high. Alot of the draft guys did t and no I don't care what Todd mcahay said.
Did you really just say you had no ties or biases... and yet throw the word SEC in just about every sentence ....impartial ...I think not

How many STARTINg QBS came from the SEC again?

s0phr0syne
10-02-2011, 08:19 AM
I hope that the Venn diagram illustrating Orton-haters and Landry Jones-wanters doesn't demonstrate the huge overlap that I think it would.

Landry Jones is Orton with a bigger arm. And I say that as a Sooner graduate/current student/fan.

Rohirrim
10-02-2011, 09:03 AM
That's because they don't have a WR worth a damn and they have about 3 really good TE's.

Standford is not a fast athletic team. Not flashy. Their a power team. He throws to the TE's alot because they go with so many 2 TE sets.

Not to mention they're all 6'6" or better. Anyone see the one handed catch by Fleener in the EZ last night? Not to mention the one made by Luck.

OrangeSe7en
10-02-2011, 09:05 AM
Hell i take him if we don't get Luck the kid looks promising

No thanks. Pass on Barkley.

strafen
10-02-2011, 09:37 AM
What's up with people hating on Barkley?
I think if Luck (pun intended) is not there for us, I'll take Barkley in a heartbeat.
To me, he's the best QB in the draft second to Luck.
He's not as polished as Luck, but again, who is?
I'd take my chances with Barkley if we're in that position.

Of course, ideally, before any of the above can happen, we need to give Tebow a shot.
I'm more convinced Tebow will succeed more than anything being parroted out there.

I really hope we can get to see Tebow play a few games this season to convincingly make a decision that would be obvious one way or another

peacepipe
10-02-2011, 09:41 AM
Not to mention they're all 6'6" or better. Anyone see the one handed catch by Fleener in the EZ last night? Not to mention the one made by Luck.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=312740024

OrangeSe7en
10-02-2011, 09:42 AM
What's up with people hating on Barkley?
I think if Luck (pun intended) is not there for us, I'll take Barkley in a heartbeat.
To me, he's the best QB in the draft second to Luck.
He's not as polished as Luck, but again, who is?
I'd take my chances with Barkley if we're in that position.

Of course, ideally, before any of the above can happen, we need to give Tebow a shot.
I'm more convinced Tebow will succeed more than anything being parroted out there.

I really hope we can get to see Tebow play a few games this season to convincingly make a decision that would be obvious one way or another



A better question is, why are more people not scrutinizing Barkley?

Rohirrim
10-02-2011, 09:43 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=312740024

Yeah. Incredible. Coach Shaw says that Luck could play three positions, he's just best at QB.

OABB
10-02-2011, 09:50 AM
What number will luck play in the pros? I think it should be retired for all 32 teams right now.

peacepipe
10-02-2011, 10:03 AM
What number will luck play in the pros? I think it should be retired for all 32 teams right now.shouldn't be a problem with tim tebow already being on the ring of fame.....

gunns
10-02-2011, 10:18 AM
He most like a late rounder - 5 plus.

Why?

strafen
10-02-2011, 10:20 AM
A better question is, why are more people not scrutinizing Barkley?In relation to...??!!
Not sure I get it...

OrangeSe7en
10-02-2011, 10:21 AM
In relation to...??!!
Not sure I get it...

What makes Barkley worth being drafted so high?

Dedhed
10-02-2011, 11:46 AM
Yeah. Incredible. Coach Shaw says that Luck could play three positions, he's just best at QB.

Gosh, where can we find such an athlete?

Rohirrim
10-02-2011, 12:02 PM
Gosh, where can we find such an athlete?

He's the QB of Stanford. Maybe if Tebow would stop dragging truck tires on chains around warehouses and start working on his accuracy, he could dream of throwing the kind of passes Luck can throw. :wiggle:

Dedhed
10-02-2011, 12:11 PM
I think Landry Jones is probably the 2nd best QB prospect in the draft.

I completely agree. I think he's head and shoulders better than Barkley and Foles.

What I love about Jones is a huge arm combined with the patience to take what a defense gives him. You rarely see big armed QBs who don't try to jam the ball into tight spaces because they think they can.

I like Barkley much more on paper than I do when I watch him play. Seems pedestrian for as much as he's hyped.

I don't like Foles at all. About all I see from his as positive is that he's tall. Makes terrible decisions, and is inaccurate to boot.

Dedhed
10-02-2011, 12:14 PM
He's the QB of Stanford. Maybe if Tebow would stop dragging truck tires on chains around warehouses and start working on his accuracy, he could dream of throwing the kind of passes Luck can throw. :wiggle:
Maybe. And maybe if Luck started dragging truck tires around he could dream of being as successful a college QB as Tebow was from a passing standpoint.

Rohirrim
10-02-2011, 12:16 PM
Maybe. And maybe if Luck started dragging truck tires around he could dream of being as successful a college QB as Tebow was from a passing standpoint.

That's true. Tebow was a fantastic college QB, especially under that Urban Meyer offense, which was just made for his talents.

maher_tyler
10-02-2011, 12:24 PM
What's up with people hating on Barkley?
I think if Luck (pun intended) is not there for us, I'll take Barkley in a heartbeat.
To me, he's the best QB in the draft second to Luck.
He's not as polished as Luck, but again, who is?
I'd take my chances with Barkley if we're in that position.

Of course, ideally, before any of the above can happen, we need to give Tebow a shot.
I'm more convinced Tebow will succeed more than anything being parroted out there.

I really hope we can get to see Tebow play a few games this season to convincingly make a decision that would be obvious one way or another

IMO, i think Tebow will play good enough, if ever given the chance, that it will be hard to justify taking a QB with our first pick with other gaping holes else where on the roster. DT, MLB, CB, any where on the oline minus LT comes to mind.

elsid13
10-02-2011, 04:36 PM
Why?

Size and arm strength.

peacepipe
10-02-2011, 04:40 PM
IMO, i think Tebow will play good enough, if ever given the chance, that it will be hard to justify taking a QB with our first pick with other gaping holes else where on the roster. DT, MLB, CB, any where on the oline minus LT comes to mind.

It wouldn't matter what kind of holes we have,if Luck is there at whatever pick we have they are going to draft Luck. need to look no further than the Colts to see the impact a true franchise QB makes.

besides we been putting up with "good enough" for over a decade now.

elsid13
10-02-2011, 04:47 PM
Maybe. And maybe if Luck started dragging truck tires around he could dream of being as successful a college QB as Tebow was from a passing standpoint.

Or maybe he could go to school that has the best talent for the last decade. Tebow was very good college QB, but let not pretend he wasn't surround with by 5 and 4 star recruits and NFL talent on both side of the ball.

epicSocialism4tw
10-02-2011, 04:55 PM
We need to put Tebow in here.

epicSocialism4tw
10-02-2011, 04:59 PM
Or maybe he could go to school that has the best talent for the last decade. Tebow was very good college QB, but let not pretend he wasn't surround with by 5 and 4 star recruits and NFL talent on both side of the ball.

Thats why Tebow won national championships and Luck will be lucky to play in a BCS bowl.

Rohirrim
10-02-2011, 05:19 PM
Thats why Tebow won national championships and Luck will be lucky to play in a BCS bowl.

Man, you put a whole new shine on dumb. Who cares what anybody does in college? What did Elway do in college? What did Peyton Manning do in college? What did Tom Brady do in college? Did you hear what Phil Simms said today? And you Tebownites still can't get it through your heads. This is a passing league. PASSING! Who's the best? Rodgers. Brady. Manning. Brees. What does Luck do that Tebow can't do? He passes the ball. Dumbass.