View Full Version : Strange Particles May Travel Faster than Light, Breaking Laws of Physics
UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
09-22-2011, 09:29 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/strange-particles-may-travel-faster-light-breaking-laws-192010201.html
Nothing goes faster than the speed of light. At least, we didn't think so.
New results from the CERN laboratory in Switzerland seem to break this cardinal rule of physics, calling into question one of the most trusted laws discovered by Albert Einstein.
Physicists have found that tiny particles called neutrinos are making a 454-mile (730-kilometer) underground trip faster than they should — more quickly, in fact, than light could do. If the results are confirmed, they could throw much of modern physics into upheaval.
"The consequences would be absolutely revolutionary and very profound," said physicist Robert Plunkett of the Fermilab laboratory in Batavia, Ill., who was not involved in the new study. "That's why such a claim should be treated very carefully and validated as many ways as you can."
Actually have known this for a while, but this might confirm it. See this is what real science looks like.
TheDave
09-22-2011, 09:39 PM
Actually have known this for a while, but this might confirm it. See this is what real science looks like.
A republican celebrating publicly funded theoretical research as real science... Thats new ;D
epicSocialism4tw
09-22-2011, 10:21 PM
I know several people who work on that project. Not with neutrinos specifically, but in operating CERN. Its a huge network of all sorts of many disciplines of science. Very cool project.
Dave, I don't think you'll find many republicans who don't want to help fund important scientific research, especially in fields like chemistry, physics, genetics, and biochemistry. Those fields lead to discoveries in tech, military, and health. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who would regret having Einstein working for the US.
Now...funding ridiculous wastes of time like gender studies is another question entirely.
epicFail, you're lying. The GOP wants to gut science funding in this country.
The standard right-winger's brain just can't handle facts and reality, and since those are two of the things that science tells us about, science is an abomination. In the eyes of the GOP, the Bible is the only science textbook anyone ever needs.
epicSocialism4tw
09-22-2011, 10:30 PM
epicFail, you're lying. The GOP wants to gut science funding in this country.
The standard right-winger's brain just can't handle facts and reality, and since those are two of the things that science tells us about, science is an abomination. In the eyes of the GOP, the Bible is the only science textbook anyone ever needs.
Goodness, you're a paranoid nutjob.
Goodness, you're a paranoid nutjob.
You don't carefully read what spews from Bachmann's and Perry's mouths, do you?
The GOP is all about gospel, not that suspicious and atheistic book-learnin' heresy...
epicSocialism4tw
09-22-2011, 10:48 PM
You don't carefully read what spews from Bachmann's and Perry's mouths, do you?
The GOP is all about gospel, not that suspicious and atheistic book-learnin' heresy...
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There's a certain tree, familywise, that could have used some heavy pruning over the generations.
epicSocialism4tw
09-22-2011, 10:56 PM
There's a certain tree, familywise, that could have used some heavy pruning over the generations.
I'm a Son of the Revolution, and you're a protist.
I know several people who work on that project. Not with neutrinos specifically, but in operating CERN. Its a huge network of all sorts of many disciplines of science. Very cool project.
Dave, I don't think you'll find many republicans who don't want to help fund important scientific research, especially in fields like chemistry, physics, genetics, and biochemistry. Those fields lead to discoveries in tech, military, and health. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who would regret having Einstein working for the US.
Now...funding ridiculous wastes of time like gender studies is another question entirely.
I notice that whenever it is convenient for you you seem to "Know somebody" or state your opinion as though it were fact. You are a psychopathic chronic bullish@@ter.
UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
09-22-2011, 11:00 PM
I notice that whenever it is convenient for you you seem to "Know somebody" or state your opinion as though it were fact. You are a psychopathic chronic bullish@@ter.
He's the only person that does that. Yeeeeeaaaaahhhhh. LOL
epicSocialism4tw
09-22-2011, 11:01 PM
I notice that whenever it is convenient for you you seem to "Know somebody" or state your opinion as though it were fact. You are a psychopathic chronic bullish@@ter.
If you look at the CERN project, you'll see that there are literally thousands of people associated with it. Its not that far-fetched of an idea for someone to know a person involved in it. Dave studied science too. Depending on where he studied science, he probably knows someone who worked on it too.
But then again, you don't know much about science.
I'm a Son of the Revolution, and you're a protist.
You're a bastard of the FF, and I'm a human being.
If you look at the CERN project, you'll see that there are literally thousands of people associated with it. Its not that far-fetched of an idea for someone to know a person involved in it. Dave studied science too. Depending on where he studied science, he probably knows someone who worked on it too.
But then again, you don't know much about science.
Once again you come to a ridiculously flawed conclusion. Congratulations, you excel at that.
DivineBronco
09-22-2011, 11:29 PM
just off the top of my head....Epic knows a CERN guy someone in the CIA.......inner city kids that he helps on a daily basis.......and he bikes cross country despite being 300 pounds......anyone got more
just off the top of my head....Epic knows a CERN guy someone in the CIA.......inner city kids that he helps on a daily basis.......and he bikes cross country despite being 300 pounds......anyone got more
That's a good start. I'm pretty sure he casts the deciding vote for the pope too.
epicSocialism4tw
09-23-2011, 06:39 AM
Once again you come to a ridiculously flawed conclusion. Congratulations, you excel at that.
A "ridiculously flawed conclusion" about the fact that many people who have worked in the sciences or studied science in a University know people who do or have worked on the Hadron Collider project...a project that involves hundreds of universties around the world? Ha!
Sorry guy, but you should think about things before you say them.
Rohirrim
09-23-2011, 07:01 AM
I'm still laughing over the post where drama llama says the Republicans aren't anti-science. It reminds me of this (with Palin playing the part of the Right Wing): http://youtu.be/4vuW6tQ0218
"He's pining for the fjords."
epicSocialism4tw
09-23-2011, 07:03 AM
I'm still laughing over the post where drama llama says the Republicans aren't anti-science. It reminds me of this (with Palin playing the part of the Right Wing): http://youtu.be/4vuW6tQ0218
"He's pining for the fjords."
Sorry, but your simplistic stereotyping is ignorant.
You should become more nuanced in your understanding of people and politics.
BroncoInferno
09-23-2011, 07:11 AM
just off the top of my head....Epic knows a CERN guy someone in the CIA.......inner city kids that he helps on a daily basis.......and he bikes cross country despite being 300 pounds......anyone got more
He's also claimed he's friends with Iranians and has the inside dope on their opinions of Obama (surprisingly enough, they happen to match his own).
The best whopper he's told was when he claimed to have been involved in a drive-by, where he stoically protected his inner city kids. Of course, when asked for some sort of verification, he claimed the police didn't investigate the incident Ha! The guy is a chronic liar. He can't help himself.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-23-2011, 08:02 AM
He's the only person that does that. Yeeeeeaaaaahhhhh. LOL
He's not the only person.
He has you to help him. :wave:
Fedaykin
09-23-2011, 11:46 AM
He's also claimed he's friends with Iranians and has the inside dope on their opinions of Obama (surprisingly enough, they happen to match his own).
The best whopper he's told was when he claimed to have been involved in a drive-by, where he stoically protected his inner city kids. Of course, when asked for some sort of verification, he claimed the police didn't investigate the incident Ha! The guy is a chronic liar. He can't help himself.
The term is "pathological liar".
"Pathological liar refers to a liar that is compulsive or impulsive, lies on a regular basis and is unable to control their lying despite of foreseeing inevitable negative consequences or ultimate disclosure of the lie. Generally lies told by a pathological liar have self-defeating quality to them and don’t serve the long term material needs of the person. Therefore pathological lying is lying that is caused by a pathology, occurs on a regular basis, is compulsive or impulsive & uncontrolled, and has self-defeating, self-trapping quality to it."
epicSocialism4tw
09-23-2011, 03:18 PM
The term is "pathological liar".
"Pathological liar refers to a liar that is compulsive or impulsive, lies on a regular basis and is unable to control their lying despite of foreseeing inevitable negative consequences or ultimate disclosure of the lie. Generally lies told by a pathological liar have self-defeating quality to them and don’t serve the long term material needs of the person. Therefore pathological lying is lying that is caused by a pathology, occurs on a regular basis, is compulsive or impulsive & uncontrolled, and has self-defeating, self-trapping quality to it."
Goodness, you guys tell yourself anything.
What does it matter to you who I know? Ha!
Fedaykin
09-23-2011, 11:07 PM
xkcd sums it up well:
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/neutrinos.png
Fedaykin
09-23-2011, 11:08 PM
Goodness, you guys tell yourself anything.
What does it matter to you who I know? Ha!
As usual, the point zooms right by you without you even getting a whiff.
epicSocialism4tw
09-24-2011, 12:09 AM
As usual, the point zooms right by you without you even getting a whiff.
Right. Ha!
You guys should do more with your lives.
It will get that hyperliberal kink out of your brains.
DivineBronco
09-24-2011, 11:56 AM
Right. Ha!
You guys should do more with your lives.
It will get that hyperliberal kink out of your brains.
you mean like having 32,000 post on a message board type of thing.........seems like a great use of time
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-24-2011, 04:55 PM
you mean like having 32,000 post on a message board type of thing.........seems like a great use of time
Ha!
Or starting a dozen new anti-Obama hyperbole threads per day.
epicSocialism4tw
09-24-2011, 05:14 PM
Or starting a dozen new anti-Obama hyperbole threads per day.
With the constant flow of blunders, mistakes, and policy failures that the Obama white house vomits forth on a daily basis, I could post a new thread every 10 seconds.
With the constant flow of blunders, mistakes, and policy failures that the Obama white house vomits forth on a daily basis, I could post a new thread every 10 seconds.
You can't come that often.
Requiem
09-24-2011, 06:20 PM
How dare you guys insult a guy who almost won a DFW citizen award!
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-25-2011, 04:25 AM
With the constant flow of blunders, mistakes, and policy failures that the Obama white house vomits forth on a daily basis, I could post a new thread every 10 seconds.
If this is true, then you could have also started a new thread every .00001 seconds during the Bush misadministration.
But we all know what you were doing during that period...
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-25-2011, 04:29 AM
How dare you guys insult a guy who almost won a DFW citizen award!
:laugh:
How do you win one of those?
Do they give you the award when you hit a target number for lynchings or something like that?
:D
UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
09-25-2011, 07:46 AM
:laugh:
How do you win one of those?
Do they give you the award when you hit a target number for lynchings or something like that?
:D
Nice racist reference. Doesn't suprise me. Why don't you and Req go choke a chicken. You'll find more happy endings.
gyldenlove
09-25-2011, 10:36 AM
Nice going, you guys managed to ruin a perfectly good thread in 2 posts - I am just going to leave WRP forever.
mhgaffney
09-25-2011, 04:56 PM
I know several people who work on that project. Not with neutrinos specifically, but in operating CERN. Its a huge network of all sorts of many disciplines of science. Very cool project.
Dave, I don't think you'll find many republicans who don't want to help fund important scientific research, especially in fields like chemistry, physics, genetics, and biochemistry. Those fields lead to discoveries in tech, military, and health. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who would regret having Einstein working for the US.
Now...funding ridiculous wastes of time like gender studies is another question entirely.
The truth is that they use the purse strings to control what science is done (AND even more importantly) what is NOT done.
They also engage in pseudo science -- tampering to get the "correct" conclusions.
The Repukes have been even worse than the Democraps on science issues.
MHG
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