Bill Clinton Disagrees With Obama's Approach to Deficit

[epicSocialism4tw]

http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/22/bill_clinton_obamas_approach_to_the_deficit_is_a_l ittle_confusing.html

Obama has alot to learn from Clinton. Part of what made Slick Willie effective in his second term was his tendancy to slide back to the center (even to the right) and his ability to generate bipartisan dialogue.

That's how you draw people back together and start instilling confidence in consumers that the government is meeting the demands of the people.

Obama has used nothing but divisive policy and rhetoric.

[TonyR]

Sigh. You say this despite the fact that Obama's job's plan is supported by a majority of Americans (read it and weep: http://www.gallup.com/poll/149567/Americans-Favor-Jobs-Plan-Proposals-Including-Taxing-Rich.aspx) and the fact that Obama has proposed many measures that have been supported by the GOP in the past. How is this not "sliding to the center"? And shouldn't the GOP be willing to compromise as well? Obama should do all the giving, and the GOP should do all the taking?

[epicSocialism4tw]

Sigh. You say this despite the fact that Obama's job's plan is supported by a majority of Americans (read it and weep: http://www.gallup.com/poll/149567/Americans-Favor-Jobs-Plan-Proposals-Including-Taxing-Rich.aspx) and the fact that Obama has proposed many measures that have been supported by the GOP in the past. How is this not "sliding to the center"? And shouldn't the GOP be willing to compromise as well? Obama should do all the giving, and the GOP should do all the taking?

Obama couldn't slide to the center if he put vaseline on his shoes.

[cutthemdown]

Sigh. You say this despite the fact that Obama's job's plan is supported by a majority of Americans (read it and weep: http://www.gallup.com/poll/149567/Americans-Favor-Jobs-Plan-Proposals-Including-Taxing-Rich.aspx) and the fact that Obama has proposed many measures that have been supported by the GOP in the past. How is this not "sliding to the center"? And shouldn't the GOP be willing to compromise as well? Obama should do all the giving, and the GOP should do all the taking?

He pays for it all through tax increases, nothing groundbreaking or middle of the road in that. His Jobs plan is to the left for sure.

[cutthemdown]

Funny how the do a poll saying do you support someone other then yourself paying more tax to help the economy, then they tout how the majority approve of it. Fact is calling people who make 200 grand a yr millionaires is a lie.

[That One Guy]

Sigh. You say this despite the fact that Obama's job's plan is supported by a majority of Americans (read it and weep: http://www.gallup.com/poll/149567/Americans-Favor-Jobs-Plan-Proposals-Including-Taxing-Rich.aspx) and the fact that Obama has proposed many measures that have been supported by the GOP in the past. How is this not "sliding to the center"? And shouldn't the GOP be willing to compromise as well? Obama should do all the giving, and the GOP should do all the taking?

"Democracy is a form of government that cannot long survive, for as soon as the people learn that they have a voice in the fiscal policies of the government, they will move to vote for themselves all the money in the treasury, and bankrupt the nation."

Fiscal policies shouldn't be concerned with popular support. That's hardly the measure of validity the government should be using.

[alkemical]

So.. Bill Clinton disagrees - yet he's one of the guys that put us in this mess. The Bush-Clinton-Bush management of things is what got us where we are.

[TonyR]

He pays for it all through tax increases, nothing groundbreaking or middle of the road in that. His Jobs plan is to the left for sure.

But if the majority of Americans support it, doesn't that automatically make it "centrist"? Is the government supposed to be for, and by, the people? Just because you oppose it doesn't make it "left".

[peacepipe]

Funny how the do a poll saying do you support someone other then yourself paying more tax to help the economy, then they tout how the majority approve of it. Fact is calling people who make 200 grand a yr millionaires is a lie.whos calling a person that makes 200,000 a yr a millionaire? all we're saying on the left is they should pay the same rate in taxes that someone making 50,000 a yr pays in tax rates.

[epicSocialism4tw]

whos calling a person that makes 200,000 a yr a millionaire? all we're saying on the left is they should pay the same rate in taxes that someone making 50,000 a yr pays in tax rates.

Obama is raising taxes on people who make 200K a year.

As for your statement on millionaires and 50K incomes...I hope that people start calling him on that one. Sure Baracky...lets get rid of the progressive income tax system and go to a flat tax. I'd vote for that. I'm sure that everyone here would vote for that. But that's not exactly what you're talking about, is it ol' Barry Obama. Oh, you don't mean that you want everyone to pay the same rate?

[TonyR]

-- Seventy-one percent of current U.S. debt was accumulated during Republican presidential terms.

-- Two-thirds of debt-ceiling elevations since 1960 have been signed into law by Republican presidents.

-- In 1961 the percentage of corporate profits paid in taxes was nearly forty-one; now it is less than eleven.

-- Seventy-five percent of the increase in corporate profit margins since 2001 has come from depressed wages.

http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2011/09/pining-for-the-fleshpots-of-reagan/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FrontPorchRepublic+%28Front+P orch+Republic%29

[epicSocialism4tw]

-- Seventy-one percent of current U.S. debt was accumulated during Republican presidential terms.

-- Two-thirds of debt-ceiling elevations since 1960 have been signed into law by Republican presidents.

-- In 1961 the percentage of corporate profits paid in taxes was nearly forty-one; now it is less than eleven.

-- Seventy-five percent of the increase in corporate profit margins since 2001 has come from depressed wages.

http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2011/09/pining-for-the-fleshpots-of-reagan/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FrontPorchRepublic+%28Front+P orch+Republic%29

How many of those were republican supermajorities?

[peacepipe]

Obama is raising taxes on people who make 200K a year.As for your statement on millionaires and 50K incomes...I hope that people start calling him on that one. Sure Baracky...lets get rid of the progressive income tax system and go to a flat tax. I'd vote for that. I'm sure that everyone here would vote for that. But that's not exactly what you're talking about, is it ol' Barry Obama. Oh, you don't mean that you want everyone to pay the same rate?

as he should.

no need for a flat tax,just rid of the bush tax cuts,susidies & loopholes that only beneift the rich.

[ant1999e]

-- Seventy-one percent of current U.S. debt was accumulated during Republican presidential terms.

-- Two-thirds of debt-ceiling elevations since 1960 have been signed into law by Republican presidents.

-- In 1961 the percentage of corporate profits paid in taxes was nearly forty-one; now it is less than eleven.

-- Seventy-five percent of the increase in corporate profit margins since 2001 has come from depressed wages.

http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2011/09/pining-for-the-fleshpots-of-reagan/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FrontPorchRepublic+%28Front+P orch+Republic%29

So Obama's trying to become a Republican???

[TonyR]

How many of those were republican supermajorities?

How 'bout you research that and let us know. But since in your intellectual dishonesty you always blame Obama for everything don't you have to be consistent and blame those GOP presidents the same way? Or are you suggesting that you'll start playing fair now?

[TheDave]

Obamas "Plan" is a bunch of half measures, with a couple of decent ideas sprinkled into the mix, all rolled into one big campaign speech. Then he shows up 2 days later with a hard left - populist "pay for" part of the equation. Making the damn thing basically impossible to pass. He is already campaigning for 2012...

We have a bunch of idealogical jack asses populating congress. BUT, and this is a big But... Part of their "Mandate" is taxes. They are exactly the type of congress that might be crazy enough to do something big with the tax code... and they have publicly stated a willingness to look at it. So work with what you have. Do not go on the campaign trail in September.

[That One Guy]

-- Seventy-one percent of current U.S. debt was accumulated during Republican presidential terms.

-- Two-thirds of debt-ceiling elevations since 1960 have been signed into law by Republican presidents.

-- In 1961 the percentage of corporate profits paid in taxes was nearly forty-one; now it is less than eleven.

-- Seventy-five percent of the increase in corporate profit margins since 2001 has come from depressed wages.

http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2011/09/pining-for-the-fleshpots-of-reagan/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FrontPorchRepublic+%28Front+P orch+Republic%29

Wait... what?

71% of 14T in quick in-the-head math is 9.8T

Maybe I'm missing the point?