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lostknight
09-17-2011, 08:12 PM
Last week I said this:
A disaster, and all of the momentum that this team has built up will be gone. The front office threw Tebow under the bus this pre-season to try and stabilize things for Kyle Orton. Before that, they tried to trade Orton, and threw him under the bus until Orton himself blew that up. A opening day loss, especially if it is marked by poor passing play in the red zone and on third downs, will re-open that wound.

The results were a disaster. The Broncos starting in the second quarter put Kyle in shotgun virtually every down, taking away the play action. They also lost the ability to rush. The raiders were successful at forcing Kyle off-schedule, and as we all know after many years of pain, Kyle off-schedule is really a mess.

Now we come to a team that we should absolutely hands down wipe the floor with. Right now Gresham, TE, looks like a threat, but their WR's looked absolutely lost last week. A TE is a new QB's best friend. AJ Green had a single reception for a TD last week, but he was so wide open my 80 year old grandmother with a artificial knee could have scored that TD. Benson is terrifying, but at this point, Tatum Bell would be terrorizing to our rushing defense. His numbers last week were not gaudy.

The Broncos need to win this game. They need to get on message that this isn't the team that Josh McDaniels wrecked, it's the team that EFX built.

Mogulseeker
09-17-2011, 08:18 PM
Kyle in the shotgun didn't take away the playaction. Not running took away the play action... if I had to rank how we lost last week it would go:

1. O-line
2. D-line
3. WR drops
4. Kyle.

TailgateNut
09-17-2011, 08:22 PM
Kyle in the shotgun didn't take away the playaction. Not running took away the play action... if I had to rank how we lost last week it would go:

1. O-line
2. D-line
3. WR drops
4. Kyle.


Blasphemy;D (no mention of Tebow) How dare you not place all the blame on Orton.

TheReverend
09-17-2011, 08:24 PM
Kyle in the shotgun didn't take away the playaction. Not running took away the play action... if I had to rank how we lost last week it would go:

1. O-line
2. D-line
3. WR drops
4. Kyle.

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd417/thesolanum/gifs/th_bert_stare.gif?t=1311962847

You PHYSICALLY can't use PA in the shotgun.

Mogulseeker
09-17-2011, 08:45 PM
http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd417/thesolanum/gifs/th_bert_stare.gif?t=1311962847

You PHYSICALLY can't use PA in the shotgun.

I think you are retarded ;D

Fox didn't have to call the plethora of shotgun plays. He choose to because the running game wasn't working.

Mogulseeker
09-17-2011, 08:47 PM
Blasphemy;D (no mention of Tebow) How dare you not place all the blame on Orton.

So I can make it out early tomorrow. I want you to try my fresh salsa... you gonna be there? Lot 7c?

TheReverend
09-17-2011, 09:19 PM
I think you are retarded ;D

Fox didn't have to call the plethora of shotgun plays. He choose to because the running game wasn't working.

No... he chose to so Kyle would have an extra 1.5 seconds to scan the field.

And the lack of a running game doesn't remove PA. It makes it less effective.

Shotgun, on the other hand, REMOVES play action.

...Like Lostknight said.



Cliffs:

-Fratboy/sailor queer shoots and doesn't score.
-...Again

Mogulseeker
09-17-2011, 09:31 PM
It removes the option of a playaction, which wouldn't have worked because of a lethargic running game. Shotgun was a better option because the line was getting eaten alive.

TheReverend
09-17-2011, 09:36 PM
It removes the option of a playaction, which wouldn't have worked because of a lethargic running game. Shotgun was a better option because the line was getting eaten alive.

...So let me clarify:

You want to nitpick a portion of his post (wrongly)

and then

Bitch when someone does it back to yours (rightly)

?

:thumbsup:

Mogulseeker
09-17-2011, 09:45 PM
Not really. I'm just saying that playaction wasn't really much of an option in the second half of that game.

maven
09-17-2011, 10:05 PM
The second must win game of the season

Is this like some reverse mojo suck for luck thread. I guess it worked in week 1.

bowtown
09-17-2011, 10:24 PM
http://www.chicagonow.com/lists-that-actually-matter/files/2011/07/4454.major_2D00_league_2D00_lou_2D00_brown.jpg

KipCorrington25
09-17-2011, 10:44 PM
If they lose this week us fans need to turn the heat up even more.

Mogulseeker
09-17-2011, 10:51 PM
If they lose this week us fans need to turn the heat up even more.

If you're talking about Tebow, you're wrong. I will not chant Tebow's name during a game. Not because I don't like the guy, but because I support our starter whoever he may be, and the fans that are doing so are merely causing cognitive dissonance within the organization by doing so.

If we lose, I would get on board with starting Tebow, but I'm not going pressure the upper management to do so.

Agamemnon
09-18-2011, 02:30 AM
If you're talking about Tebow, you're wrong. I will not chant Tebow's name during a game. Not because I don't like the guy, but because I support our starter whoever he may be, and the fans that are doing so are merely causing cognitive dissonance within the organization by doing so.

If we lose, I would get on board with starting Tebow, but I'm not going pressure the upper management to do so.

You're the submissive one in a relationship aren't you? Ha!

epicSocialism4tw
09-18-2011, 02:42 AM
If they lose this week us fans need to turn the heat up even more.

No doubt.

Having a poor game manager manage a losing team isn't that good of a recipe for success.

Mogulseeker
09-18-2011, 09:26 AM
Has anyone noticed that the majority of the Tebow fanboys on this forum joined this forum after Tebow was drafted?

Agamemnon, you're clearly the submissive one in your Tebow obsession. You'd be the catcher and Tebow would be the pitcher. Too bad Timmy doesn't approve of your lifestyle.

lostknight
09-18-2011, 09:28 AM
I have zero desire to suck for luck. We suck for other reasons. Some are fixable, some not.

If, on the other hand you are gonna stick a qb On shotgun the whole game, you might as well start Tebow.

elsid13
09-18-2011, 09:43 AM
http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd417/thesolanum/gifs/th_bert_stare.gif?t=1311962847

You PHYSICALLY can't use PA in the shotgun.

Yes you can.

Drek
09-18-2011, 10:00 AM
Has anyone noticed that the majority of the Tebow fanboys on this forum joined this forum after Tebow was drafted?

Agamemnon, you're clearly the submissive one in your Tebow obsession. You'd be the catcher and Tebow would be the pitcher. Too bad Timmy doesn't approve of your lifestyle.

Other than McGruder I can't think of too many people I'd describe as a "Tebow fanboy".

Lot of people are in mutual agreement that doing the same thing (starting Orton) and expecting different results (winning games) is pretty ****ing dumb.

If we lose today we're getting Luck. Seriously. If we can't beat the Raiders and Bengals at home we might as well just pack it the **** up for the season.

OrangeSe7en
09-18-2011, 10:25 AM
Has anyone noticed that the majority of the Tebow fanboys on this forum joined this forum after Tebow was drafted?

Agamemnon, you're clearly the submissive one in your Tebow obsession. You'd be the catcher and Tebow would be the pitcher. Too bad Timmy doesn't approve of your lifestyle.

He already zinged you with the joke you tried to recycle. It was more funny the first time. Too bad it was at your expense.