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zdoor
09-17-2011, 02:30 PM
Looking to see if anyone has known any youths in Ca. attend any of the Ca. Quarterback camps? Looking For feedback on any that people may have heard of good experiences with. My son is an 8th grader and has played QB and LB since 2nd grade. He's been scouted by the local high school coaches and seems to be there choice for QB next year. I want to send him to a camp this off season for more advanced coaching then what he's had so far. Any advice is appreciatted...

errand
09-17-2011, 02:48 PM
Looking to see if anyone has known any youths in Ca. attend any of the Ca. Quarterback camps? Looking For feedback on any that people may have heard of good experiences with. My son is an 8th grader and has played QB and LB since 2nd grade. He's been scouted by the local high school coaches and seems to be there choice for QB next year. I want to send him to a camp this off season for more advanced coaching then what he's had so far. Any advice is appreciatted...

Sure here's some advice..have tim tebow go with him ...maybe you guys get a package deal

Wow this is kind of ironic.....a man who wants a guy with faulty mechanics and footwork to be our quarterback wants to send his own son to a camp to learn better mechanics and footwork

zdoor
09-17-2011, 02:58 PM
Sure here's some advice..have tim tebow go with him ...maybe you guys get a package deal

Wow this is kind of ironic.....a man who wants a guy with faulty mechanics and footwork to be our quarterback wants to send his own son to a camp to learn better mechanics and footwork

You're an idiot... Back to the regularly scheduled programming...

And for the record. My position is Orton earned the starting spot, as well as the shortest of leashes, and is already IMO earning a ticket to the bench. If we have a losing record at the bye Orton should be yanked. Another game as ****ty as last week, and that time should come sooner.

Jay3
09-17-2011, 03:00 PM
Wow this is kind of ironic.....a man who wants a guy with faulty mechanics and footwork to be our quarterback wants to send his own son to a camp to learn better mechanics and footwork

Someone who's watched tools like you wishing Tebow off the field because of mechanics issues?

This word "irony" you keep using. I do not think it means what you think it means.

http://i.imgur.com/6EbfO.jpg

TheReverend
09-17-2011, 03:23 PM
Have you talked to the local coaches?

A lot of the local colleges from div 3 and up should run camps.

...but being realistic, they're nothing great for someone his age. They usually all blow up until post junior year summer and then it's mostly scouting anyway.

You can probably do better working with him yourself and if you feel it's some position specific stuff that other people could teach better, go get a book for it.

My two cents at least. Good luck either way.

errand
09-17-2011, 03:24 PM
Someone who's watched tools like you wishing Tebow off the field because of mechanics issues?

This word "irony" you keep using. I do not think it means what you think it means.

http://i.imgur.com/6EbfO.jpg

Here's where you're wrong d*******..... I stated numerous times that I believe the broncos can win with either kyle orton or tim tebow

I personally don't give a s*** who the broncos start as our quarterback.....hell, they could even pull your ass outta the stands and I'd support you....

No player is bigger than the team to me......

TheReverend
09-17-2011, 03:32 PM
Here's where you're wrong d*******..... I stated numerous times that I believe the broncos can win with either kyle orton or tim tebow

I personally don't give a s*** who the broncos start as our quarterback.....hell, they could even pull your ass outta the stands and I'd support you....

No player is bigger than the team to me......

Dude can you stop.

A good guy and poster is asking for helpful opinions for something his kid loves.

Wrong time/place to do this.

errand
09-17-2011, 03:42 PM
Dude can you stop.

A good guy and poster is asking for helpful opinions for something his kid loves.

Wrong time/place to do this.

You're right man I'm sorry.... as far as actual advice I would say find yourself a guy that will work with your son individually.. not in a camp environment.

If he's actually being scouted by high school teams then I would find the team that throws the ball the most and that has turned out the best quarterbacks and see if any of those guys in particular that quarterbacks coach would be interested in doing this on the side..... maybe perhaps a guy who is a senior this year and is going to college in these are in a little mad money

broncocalijohn
09-17-2011, 03:46 PM
Zdoor, not sure where Templeton is but my old football coach from my school is now at Mission Viejo (which is where Mark Sanchez went). His son is former UCLA Bret Johnson and younger son Rob Johnson (Bills, Bucs). I believe they do a QB camp. If not, I believe Marv Marinovich (remember that name) does a camp. These are probably both in South Orange County but make it a vacation and hang in Newport or even Laguna Beach. You might see Karenin with his other buddies.

zdoor
09-17-2011, 03:47 PM
Have you talked to the local coaches?

A lot of the local colleges from div 3 and up should run camps.

...but being realistic, they're nothing great for someone his age. They usually all blow up until post junior year summer and then it's mostly scouting anyway.

You can probably do better working with him yourself and if you feel it's some position specific stuff that other people could teach better, go get a book for it.

My two cents at least. Good luck either way.

Thanks. Nearby high school coach who is scouting him is going to work with him in Spring. Also likely to send him to local camp at Cal Poly this year. I've worked with him for several years now but my background is D. His fundamentals are pretty good on a basic level but he's ready for more than I can give him beyond basic drills and such. He's ordered some DVDs himself and watches all sorts of you tube stuff. Considering the work he's put in and the fact I promised him a camp if he kept his grades up, I owe him now. Just trying to figure out where to send him. There is a good one in Mission Viejo one of the kids I coached in youth a few years ago went too and am thinking of possibly sending him there but want to see if anyone had good experience at any others...

tsiguy96
09-17-2011, 03:49 PM
a lot of DIV 1 schools ran camps. back in like 7th grade i went to a wisconsin badgers camp, and i know they were scouting guys there because the guy i roomed with got a full scholarship from them.

zdoor
09-17-2011, 03:49 PM
Zdoor, not sure where Templeton is but my old football coach from my school is now at Mission Viejo (which is where Mark Sanchez went). His son is former UCLA Bret Johnson and younger son Rob Johnson (Bills, Bucs). I believe they do a QB camp. If not, I believe Marv Marinovich (remember that name) does a camp. These are probably both in South Orange County but make it a vacation and hang in Newport or even Laguna Beach. You might see Karenin with his other buddies.

Thanks. I've heard good things about that camp. So far it is at the top of the list. Appreciate the feedback.

TheReverend
09-17-2011, 03:54 PM
Thanks. Nearby high school coach who is scouting him is going to work with him in Spring. Also likely to send him to local camp at Cal Poly this year. I've worked with him for several years now but my background is D. His fundamentals are pretty good on a basic level but he's ready for more than I can give him beyond basic drills and such. He's ordered some DVDs himself and watches all sorts of you tube stuff. Considering the work he's put in and the fact I promised him a camp if he kept his grades up, I owe him now. Just trying to figure out where to send him. There is a good one in Mission Viejo one of the kids I coached in youth a few years ago went too and am thinking of possibly sending him there but want to see if anyone had good experience at any others...

I'd avoid some of the bigger name and D1 camps (ANYTHING held at USC, UCLA, etc). You'll generally get 3x the amount of attention, total duration and instruction in a smaller camp.

Great work ethic though. Is he playing other sports to expand his general athleticism? My daughter's on the couch eating popcorn just like her dad used to lol

PS. Cut the linebacker **** and move to safety

zdoor
09-17-2011, 04:02 PM
I'd avoid some of the bigger name and D1 camps (ANYTHING held at USC, UCLA, etc). You'll generally get 3x the amount of attention, total duration and instruction in a smaller camp.

Great work ethic though. Is he playing other sports to expand his general athleticism? My daughter's on the couch eating popcorn just like her dad used to lol

PS. Cut the linebacker **** and move to safety

He wrestles and plays basketball. He also lifts before school and has since JanuarY. He's a good kid and has a good work ethic. In youth football, he goes both ways and is one of the bigger hitters so he ends up at one of the LB spots. He takes a lot of punishment though. Every team cracks him pretty much every play as soon as they realize he's also QB. But he's handled it so far. I doubt that stays that way in HS...



That is my fear about the bigger camps.

Jason in LA
09-20-2011, 10:56 PM
I'd say go with personal coaches over camps, or coaches that deal with smaller groups. My son is a 10th grader, plays WR. He's been to camps and worked with smaller groups, and the smaller groups have been much better than the camps.

With the personal coaches, or smaller groups, the player gets a lot more attention and reps. He learns a lot more. To me, camps are good to showcase the skills that the players have obtained elsewhere. My son did the San Diego St camp this past summer. There were like 300 kids there. It was a one day camp, helmets and shoulder pads. He didn't learn anything there, and I'd say that the coaches there were only looking at a select few players who they are recruiting. The camp wasn't designed to improve skills or to be able to stand out. There weren't very many opportunities to stand out. But it was worth going because he met the Los Angele scout. So when he goes back to that camp in the future, the scout knows him, and will keep tabs on him.

That San Diego camp was only $50, not a big deal. I heard the USC and UCLA camps were like $300, for one day, and there were like 300 kids there. The over night camps are like $800.

One thing that I noticed about the camps, there were some kids there who looked like they did not have very many skills, and their parents may have thought that by going to that camp, they'd learn something and get better. Nope, that wasn't the case at all.

So I'd say to ask around for the top QB coaches that can give your son more individual training, and then he can take those skills to the camps and get noticed. And it will help him a lot more for the high school season. Most kids aren't getting in that extra work, and most high school coaching staffs do not have the time or resources to develop these kids properly. A QB/WR coach that my son worked with made a great point. He said that all high school coaches really have the time to do is teach the kids how to line up and run the correctly, but they aren't teaching the kids the little details to make them good players.

As for my son's skills, he's still on the JV team, but he may be called up for the second half of the season. Last week he caught seven passes for 88 yards and three touchdowns. He had a 30 yard TD off of a streak, the other two TDs were short passes. Through two games he has 4 TDs. I'd like to see him play a few more games of JV before he gets moved up. No need to rush him, but it would be good to see him get some varsity action during his sophomore year. He needs to get a little bigger though. Right now he's nearly '6 and about 152 lbs. Last year he played as a freshman at about 5'9" 135. I'd like to see him get up to 160 lbs before the season is over, so he'll have good size to play varsity. And next year get up to a good 175 lbs.

Jason in LA
12-17-2011, 05:42 PM
Any updates?

ghwk
12-17-2011, 06:29 PM
I thought this thread got bumped to talk about which one Tebow was going to!

zdoor
12-17-2011, 08:08 PM
Any updates?

Thanks for asking. He's been working with a sport specific trainer locally for about a month now. All the work they've done so far has been on foot speed and agility work. He works 2 days a week with him and so far loves it. He still hits the gym with me regularly and he's getting bigger by the day between lifting and puberty...

Begininning in March he can start to train at the HIgh school he'll be attending and will get to know his coaches. He is REALLY excited about that.

For camps there are 2 small camps locally he'll be attending and I told him he can pick one 2 day camp. It will probably be the one in Mission Viejo but we haven't committed yet...

Jason in LA
12-18-2011, 11:27 AM
Sounds good. Looks like he'll have a major leg up on his teammates next year. The personal coaching has helped my son a lot. He caught 52 passes for 904 yards and 16 TDs. He also took a punt back for a TD. The link below goes into greater detail, and has photos and a highlight video.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=102178

Right now he's working with a speed coach, which is also helping him prepare for track. I'm running with him too, so it's like competition at every workout. There are a number of camps coming up in the spring that he will attend, and he'll be playing on 7 on 7 teams. If he performs well at the offseason camps and 7 on 7s, and he has a good junior season, he should be in good shape as far as recruiting goes.