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broncocalijohn
09-15-2011, 04:54 PM
I just saw this on the news. The guy says it's going to cost $10,000. The guy dresses like eminem and is from Kentucky. I'm skeptical.

Sounds like 2010 TC casualty Dicky Lyons WR

TheReverend
09-15-2011, 05:02 PM
The only thing the billboard will accomplish would be the lowering of the trade value of both Tebow and Orton.

Tebow will play when Fox thinks he's ready, which probably won't be while Fox is here.

...what?

TheReverend
09-15-2011, 05:06 PM
Sounds like 2010 TC casualty Dicky Lyons WR

Still waiting on an answer:

I'd like to extend a very special invitation to a fun game for the OP, BCJ:

With over 13,000 posts, please link one good football post.

Only one good football post out of 13,000.

........can you?

http://orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=3291654&postcount=23

Gonna do it, or do you even realize that you're a horrible poster?

TheReverend
09-15-2011, 05:07 PM
My bad, forgot I made this promise

In 24 hrs I'll bump it down to "Barely above average" football post to see if you can meet that requisite.

So can you meet that?

Dedhed
09-15-2011, 05:12 PM
I understand the frustration, but I think it's pent up frustration related to our last two seasons. And the billboards are overreaction; if we're 0-3 or something I could understand it more.What dont you understand about 3-11 since the beginning of last season. This is not about a single game. That one game simply highlighted every reason why we were 3-10 under Orton last year.

I can only assume that Fox saw something in camp in Orton that he didn't see in the other QB's.It was the $8M price tag that he was forced to see in the pre-season.

He was by far the most productive QB in the preseason so it really wasn't much of a choice.Not sure what you're basing this on. Amount of playing time?

A lot of people were impressed with Tebow's preseason performance. I wasn't one of those people. I got the impression that he had a lot of work to do to be a starting QB in the league.He has a lot of work to do to be a great, or polished, pocket passing QB in the league. He doesn't have anything to do to be a productive starter. He proved that in his 3 starts last year.

Personally, I wasn't a big fan of McDaniels coaching philosophy and so I'm not going to judge him too much from what happened the last couple seasons. His first year in Denver, he had some opportunities to get us to the playoffs and so if fans are judging him from 2009, I see their point--he definitely let the team down.Judge him from his entire career. Orton has never had the confidence of his franchise. He's always been looked at as a replaceable component.

But 2010? No way, was that team going to be a competitive club with the defense they had and the o line declining as it did.That's the thing. They were a far more competitive club with Tebow out there. They were never going to win many games, but they were doormats under Orton, and they were a thorn, at least, in opponents' sides when Tebow got the job.

Blueflame
09-15-2011, 05:22 PM
In short yes..

Nice that they have an extra ten grand to spend on a pointless gesture that is certain to be ignored by the FO (but lampooned for the next month in the media).

Bronx33
09-15-2011, 06:08 PM
Nice that they have an extra ten grand to spend on a pointless gesture that is certain to be ignored by the FO (but lampooned for the next month in the media).


If they do it i will sign up over there and flame him daily until i am banned :approve:

Ratboy
09-15-2011, 06:15 PM
The only thing the billboard will accomplish would be the lowering of the trade value of both Tebow and Orton.

Tebow will play when Fox thinks he's ready, which probably won't be while Fox is here.

Neither will be traded, so who cares about value?

Rolandftw
09-15-2011, 06:25 PM
You say that Orton was by far our most productive QB in preseason even though Tebow, who you say didn't look ready, had a better QB rating. Not sure I follow your logic.

QB rating is a very inefficient way of rating a quarterbacks play. It doesn't measure sacks taken, so a QB taking a sack is actually better for their rating then throwing an incompletion. Obviously, no statistic it can't take into account defenses played at least until after the season. It doesn't take into account dropped passes, rushing yards, fumbles, penalties by the qb, teammates etc.

John Elway, throughout most of his career had a QB rating in the mid 70's. The statistic is complete and total crap.

ESPN as essentially admitted this as they had come up with their complete QBR ratings, which still is far from complete.

It's funny that the only argument I seem to ever hear from Tebow supporters is that he had a better QB rating then Orton in the preseason. If I didn't know better, I would presume that they had only looked at box scores.

They don't point out how often he looked to run the ball, how often he got sacked, the turnovers, the fact that he still can't work through his progressions as a QB, the majority of his passes being screen passes or bombs. Ugh. Coincidentally, the same things that they seemingly ignore with Tebow they have no problem in pointing out when Orton has a bad game (and yes, he was horrid against Oakland)

I can only conclude that the people that want Tebow to start are either huge Tim Tebow fans, don't care how many games the team loses/want Andrew Luck, or they REALLY, REALLY hate Kyle Orton.

Rolandftw
09-15-2011, 06:30 PM
He has a lot of work to do to be a great, or polished, pocket passing QB in the league. He doesn't have anything to do to be a productive starter. He proved that in his 3 starts last year.

Probably agree to disagree then as I didn't see anything from Tebow in his three starts last season that would show me he has what it takes to lead an average team to an average record in the NFL, let alone becoming a great pocket QB.

Doesn't mean he can't be down the line, but he's got a lot of work to put in.

Broncos4tw
09-15-2011, 06:44 PM
Actually, as I think on it, this may ironically bring the team closer together, including the QBs.

crawdad
09-16-2011, 05:49 AM
Still waiting on an answer:



http://orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=3291654&postcount=23

Gonna do it, or do you even realize that you're a horrible poster?

So if I don't have a football take I can't post here? Who died and appointed you official OM analyst and moderator? Jesus, beezus, get over your man-love for BCJ! You are like Jhizz, you add nothing but negative BS.

KevinJames
09-16-2011, 06:41 AM
Anyone hear the interview with this shmuck on 104.3 the fan?

D-Mac and the rest of the guys killed him and made him look stupid lmao it was great.

man what kind of douche has an idea to put up a billboard hahahahaha

BroncoInferno
09-16-2011, 06:50 AM
I worry that things like this are going to cause EFX to get stubborn and double-down on their resolve to keep Tebow on the bench for fear of being perceived as bowing to public pressure.

alkemical
09-16-2011, 07:06 AM
I worry that things like this are going to cause EFX to get stubborn and double-down on their resolve to keep Tebow on the bench for fear of being perceived as bowing to public pressure.

If they're smart, they'll just ignore us* this year.

BroncoInferno
09-16-2011, 07:19 AM
If they're smart, they'll just ignore us* this year.

I don't agree. If our OL and rush defense don't improve, we aren't going to be very good either way. If that's the case, there is no reason on earth not to give Tebow a shot and see what he has. If the pass protection doesn't improve, at least Tebow gives us some mobility to make something out of the play. With Orton, instant pressure means the play is dead.

In any event, we need to be able to evaluate Tebow over a large sample of games to see if he's worth any further investment. Limiting the scope of that judgement to what's seen in practice isn't going to cut it.

Of course, you're kind of making my point. If Fox does start Tebow, there are going to be people who claim that he gave in to public sentiment. That's why I think the rabidness of the fanbase (chanting Tebow's name during the home opener, putting up billboards, etc) could well backfire in the case.

TheReverend
09-16-2011, 07:32 AM
So if I don't have a football take I can't post here? Who died and appointed you official OM analyst and moderator? Jesus, beezus, get over your man-love for BCJ! You are like Jhizz, you add nothing but negative BS.

Nope, just pointing worthlessness in all it's glory. You should take a seat right next to him. I had no idea someone could reach 70 years old in the US and still be illiterate until I met you.

PS. You didn't deserve to touch Mike Shanahan. :rofl:

crawdad
09-16-2011, 07:41 AM
Keep pointing out how dumb you really are. Like I said, you add nothing!

TheReverend
09-16-2011, 07:45 AM
Keep pointing out how dumb you really are. Like I said, you add nothing!

No. I really do. Once you work on that literacy you'll figure that out.

crawdad
09-16-2011, 07:48 AM
You are such a dickhead! Where did you go to school? Booty Tech? Show me what literacy has to do with what I said!

TheReverend
09-16-2011, 07:52 AM
You are such a dickhead! Where did you go to school? Booty Tech? Show me what literacy has to do with what I said!

I'd keep toying with you, but this is clearly even more unfair than usual.

Have a good day and don't forget your helmet.

crawdad
09-16-2011, 07:56 AM
Again, you have nothing to add!

jhns
09-16-2011, 08:00 AM
Again, you have nothing to add!

LOL

At what point have you ever added anything but crying about other posters to a discussion?

crawdad
09-16-2011, 08:01 AM
Show me what you add!

jhns
09-16-2011, 08:04 AM
Show me what you add!

I tapk about football all the time. I break down stats and play a lot. You don't see it because you are blinded by TGNs ass covering your face as your lips are stuck to it.

crawdad
09-16-2011, 08:07 AM
Once again, you resort to name calling. That adds a lot to the board. You remain an assclown! You, like the Reverend, are only here to jump on someone's ass that doesn't conform to your thoughts! Brilliant!

TheReverend
09-16-2011, 08:09 AM
Again, you have nothing to add!

:rofl:

Fine, I'll take a minute to mock your retarded ass.

http://orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=3294631&postcount=6

That's just one within the past week where I put up exactly how Miller was going to be used despite everyone thinking he'd be a "pass rush specialist" on every passing down (because that even exists ::) ) and then later explained what avenues could be used to increase his efficiency by using him even more as a pass rusher:

The problem is you really CAN'T.

Options to use Miller as a full time rusher:

1. Make the under our base D since he shifts to the nickel on obvious passing downs.

2. Once he reads pass, he can come on a semi delayed blitz from a few yards off the LOS.

Neither option are really attractive, imo.

Oh and btw, this was immediately following the second day of the draft and completely pegged the defense Allen was going to run:

http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=98026

Now,

Do you even know what the positions on the football field are, dumb ****?

jhns
09-16-2011, 08:10 AM
Once again, you resort to name calling. That adds a lot to the board. You remain an assclown! You, like the Reverend, are only here to jump on someone's ass that doesn't conform to your thoughts! Brilliant!

Once again, you bring nothing to the table. Why do you come to a football site when you clearly are not interested in discussing football?

And so?

TheReverend
09-16-2011, 08:10 AM
Once again, you resort to name calling. That adds a lot to the board. You remain an assclown! You, like the Reverend, are only here to jump on someone's ass that doesn't conform to your thoughts! Brilliant!

See above and link me one post where you brought something to the table.

Anything at all, in fact.

Because it just seems like a LOT of TGN nut hopping and BCJ too.

You guys all price gouge tickets together or something? Got a nice racket going?

crawdad
09-16-2011, 08:13 AM
You know nothing about me! I am a decorated Vietnam veteran that has been a Bronco fan longer than you have existed. You actually believe that your opinion is always better than the head coaches and FO so who am I to question you! You both seem to be covering each others nut sack!

TheReverend
09-16-2011, 08:15 AM
You know nothing about me! I am a decorated Vietnam veteran that has been a Bronco fan longer than you have existed. You actually believe that your opinion is always better than the head coaches and FO so who am I to question you! You both seem to be covering each others nut sack!

That was an appropriate response. Ha!

jhns
09-16-2011, 08:15 AM
You know nothing about me! I am a decorated Vietnam veteran that has been a Bronco fan longer than you have existed. You actually believe that your opinion is always better than the head coaches and FO so who am I to question you! You both seem to be covering each others nut sack!

And you deserve respect for that. You lose that respect with the way you act. You are no better than what you constantly cry about.

crawdad
09-16-2011, 08:16 AM
Well, pal, what have you added to the world lately, besides controversy?

jhns
09-16-2011, 08:18 AM
Well, pal, what have you added to the world lately, besides controversy?

My charm and good looks.

TheReverend
09-16-2011, 08:18 AM
Well, pal, what have you added to the world lately, besides controversy?

Okay, so now we're not talking about the message board and football anymore, we're talking about the world?

You are something special. I almost want to pet you.

DontBeMessin
09-16-2011, 08:19 AM
Wow!

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?p=3953061

That's laughable... Why are you Donkie fans trying to be hard core like Raider Fans all of a sudden..

Well, we actually did it first - you're just trying, I know - it's like the younger brother that wants to grow up and be a badass like his older brother an copies everything his older brother does...

I understand little bro! But, always remember - you'll never be able to beat your older brothers ass!


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4706922


:)

crawdad
09-16-2011, 08:20 AM
And you deserve respect for that. You lose that respect with the way you act. You are no better than what you constantly cry about.

I have invited you to come to the Tailgate and meet me! You might enjoy yourself.

I do not profess to be a football expert like you or the Rev. I spend my time doing things that add to our culture that is much more important than football! You obviously spend your time analyzing football!

TheReverend
09-16-2011, 08:21 AM
I have invited you to come to the Tailgate and meet me! You might enjoy yourself.

I do not profess to be a football expert like you or the Rev. I spend my time doing things that add to our culture that is much more important than football! You obviously spend your time analyzing football!

Link? Pic? More detailed explanation?

DontBeMessin
09-16-2011, 08:23 AM
Do you know what's funny?!?!

You Bronco Fans argue more with yourselves than with other fans. At least us Raider fans pick fights with OTHER fans outside of our own.

You are all assclowns if you fight amoungst each other...

Stagger Lee
09-16-2011, 08:26 AM
Do you know what's funny?!?!

You Bronco Fans argue more with yourselves than with other fans. At least us Raider fans pick fights with OTHER fans outside of our own.

You are all assclowns if you fight amoungst each other...


Shouldn't you be checking in with your Parole Officer about now, rather than trolling another teams message board?

jhns
09-16-2011, 08:27 AM
Do you know what's funny?!?!

You Bronco Fans argue more with yourselves than with other fans. At least us Raider fans pick fights with OTHER fans outside of our own.

You are all assclowns if you fight amoungst each other...

Yeah, you don't pick fights with each other as you stab and shoot each other. Makes sense...

alkemical
09-16-2011, 08:27 AM
Shouldn't you be checking in with your Parole Officer about now, rather than trolling another teams message board?

He hasn't violated his ankle bracelets range yet...he's ok.

DrFate
09-16-2011, 08:28 AM
You Bronco Fans argue more with yourselves than with other fans. At least us Raider fans pick fights with OTHER fans outside of our own.

Exactly what is there to fight the Raiders fans about?

Raiderfan: We kicked your ass!
Broncofan: correct
Raiderfan: Orton sucks balls!
Broncofan: he does
Raiderfan: Is there ANY fight in your team at all!?!?!
Broncofan: not that I can see
Raiderfan: Screw this, I'm going to the Bill's board for week 2
Broncofan: bye

Kaylore
09-16-2011, 08:47 AM
...amoungst...